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Wrong, it applies all the time until you are proven guilty.
Elijah McClain was not a criminal. Antonio Smith was not a criminal. Andre Hill was not a criminal.
Only when it comes to prosecution. We're not even there yet. Suspicious until investigation leads elsewhere.
You MUST stop your backwards thinking on this issue.
If police are asking questions, they are not doing so for their health. Why do police ask questions? If you are not the person they are after, help them clear you of suspicion so they can apprehend the real perp.
YOUR method is to cause MORE suspicion and turn their attention toward YOU, rather than lead them to the right person.
Jail house lawyer"Wrong, it applies all the time until you are proven guilty."
Really? Please educate us as to when "innocent until proven guilty" ever comes into play before being charged.
EVER.
I'm not sure where you think you amassed your voluminous knowledge of the legal system but you will need some remedial coursework.
"Wrong, it applies all the time until you are proven guilty."
Really? Please educate us as to when "innocent until proven guilty" ever comes into play before being charged.
EVER.
I'm not sure where you think you amassed your voluminous knowledge of the legal system but you will need some remedial coursework.
Omg! That's what he just said!
Fine, then DON'T DO SQUAT when they start arresting you.I don't have to do squat.
Well, let's look at it, shall we?I have NO idea why they felt a need to ask Elijah McClain anything.
"Even when charged you are still innocent until a court through due process proves you guilty."Even when charged you are still innocent until a court through due process proves you guilty.
It's basic Constitution 101.
That's EXACTLY what I said.It applies even AFTER being charged which is not what was said.
Fine, then DON'T DO SQUAT when they start arresting you.
And, if you think I am somebody who is against police accountability, you are seriously mistaken.
Well, let's look at it, shall we?
On the evening of August 24, 2019, an Aurora civilian called 9-1-1 after seeing a male around Billings Street and Evergreen Avenue walking south on Billings Street wearing a ski mask and flailing his arms. The caller affirmed during the call that he did not believe the person was armed and that he did not believe that anyone was in immediate danger.[4] Friends of McClain interviewed after the incident speculated that this arm-flailing was most likely just dancing, as he is believed to have been listening to music at the time of the call.[17] McClain was dressed warmly and was wearing a ski mask because he had a blood circulation disorder that caused him to chill easily.[18]
According to the police report, McClain resisted when confronted by the responding police officers, and Officers Woodyard and Rosenblatt heard Officer Roedema shout "he is going for your gun". An attorney representing McClain's family said the officers involved slammed McClain into a wall immediately after apprehending him.[19][20] Roedema said that McClain "reached for and grabbed the grip of Rosenblatt's gun that was holstered".[21] There are conflicting accounts about the officer's report that McClain had tried to grab his gun. Later accounts offered differing reports on whose gun McClain had tried to grab. There was no visual body-camera footage of McClain's alleged reach for the gun, which the officers explained by stating that all of their cameras had fallen off. However, a news source states, "But if you watch the video from about the 15-minute mark (warning: It contains violent and upsetting content), you'll see someone pick up the body camera and point it toward McClain and one of the officers before dropping it back into the grass. Around 15:34, one of the officers seems to say, 'Leave your camera there.'"[22]
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Does that sound like police are investigating a complaint?
Does that behavior sound like someone who may be a danger to himself or others?
It sounds like he tried to grab somebody's gun, and with the way he is described, I wouldn't doubt it.
Now, are you saying that McClain had no duty to help officers end their investigation and clear him of being a looney murderous fruitcake?
And, the cops went to investigate what might have been a dangerous person (you know...their fucking job) and he ended up being a dangerous person. Imagine that?The person who called it in is the one who should have been arrested. She saw a black guy walking on the street not dressed in a manner that suited her and she called the cops.
No, not "investigation over." A dude tripping out on narcotics or having a bout with psychosis is NOT fine.When they asked him if he was alright and he tells them he is just walking home from the store and he is fine, investigation over.
And, the cops went to investigate what might have been a dangerous person (you know...their fucking job) and he ended up being a dangerous person. Imagine that?
WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF POLICE????
Answer that question before anything else. Because it sounds like you believe they should not exist.
No, not "investigation over." A dude tripping out on narcotics or having a bout with psychosis is NOT fine.
WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF POLICE???
I can clear up any inconsistencies if you would simply answer the fundamental question about the purpose of police.Your words undercut your claims. You are trying to create some straw man to justify your hypocrisy.
The person who called it in is the one who should have been arrested. She saw a black guy walking on the street not dressed in a manner that suited her and she called the cops. I hope she can no longer sleep at night.
Oh, that's it? They get a 911 call about a dude tripping with a ski mask on and "I'm fine" is all they need to hear?He answered he was fine and clearly explained what he was doing. Time to move on.
I have no idea, but innocent until proven guilty, right?Why do you feel the cops are facing criminal charges?