On the Record: Christianity is not as dangerous as once thought

[IsaacNewton]

I have to say one of the things of finally reaching an age where religious types, like those who wear white shirts with black ties and ride around on bicycles trying to 'share the gospel' with everyone they come across, leave you alone just by giving them 'a look', is so satisfying I wish I could bottle it.

But I can't so you younger people have to suffer suckers!!

 

[presonorek]

impossible to find 3 you say?

Until I see it done. Can you list three names of Christians that want gays dead? I have only listed two.

 

[presonorek]

Let me help. I'll start the list:

Kevin Swanson
Steve Anderson
.....

 

[playtime]

impossible to find 3 you say?

Until I see it done. Can you list three names of Christians that want gays dead?

i gave you names & verifiable links in post #12.

 

[presonorek]

impossible to find 3 you say?

Until I see it done. Can you list three names of Christians that want gays dead?

i gave you names & verifiable links in post #12.

You gave me links. I read the articles. What I didn't see is your list of Christians who want gays dead. I didn't see it. Was I not paying attention? Where is your list? I gave my list of two names.

 

[presonorek]

True Christianity is a danger to some peoples egos, religions that promote violence, pedophiles, other people that desire to push their agendas onto someone else, crooks, thieves and liars.

The potential to cause hurt feelings is not what I consider dangerous.

People full of pride and vanity believe it is a danger to them.

But doesn't people like that cry about anything?

 

[presonorek]

i gave you names & verifiable links in post #12.

All of these names were mentioned in post 12:

Brian Tashman
Phillip Kayser
Mike Huckabee
Ted Cruz
Bobby Jindal
Kevin Swanson
Ron Paul
Matthew McLaughlin
Rousas Rushdoony
David Barton

Why didn't you add some of these names to your list? Are you not convinced that any of them are Christians that want gays dead?

 

[playtime]

Matthew McLaughlin.

Philip Keiser.

#3 & 4.

 

[presonorek]

Finally we have two people that have found 2 Christians that want gays dead but nobody has been able to list 3.

 

[playtime]

Finally we have two people that have found 2 Christians that want gays dead but nobody has been able to list 3.

i gave you 2. plus your 2 - 4 total. last i heard, 4 was > 3.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

impossible to find 3 you say?

not.

'Death Penalty For Gays' Literature At Right-Wing Conference
Submitted by Brian Tashman on Friday, 11/6/2015 3:38 pm
Phillip Kayser is among the several speakers joining Mike Huckabee, Ted Cruz and Bobby Jindal at the National Religious Liberties Conference in Iowa this weekend, and as we've reported, he, along with the conference's chief organizer, Kevin Swanson, has called on the government to execute gay people. Kayser's views are so extreme that back in the 2012 election, Ron Paul's campaign tried to cover up his endorsement.

However, it seems that in today's GOP, calling for the execution of gay people isn't beyond the pale.

At the conference, where he is giving two speeches on how local officials and others can defy the Supreme Court's marriage equality decision, Kayser distributed the very pamphlet calling for the death penalty for gay people that caused a stir back when he endorsed Paul.

In the pamphlet, “Is The Death Penalty Just?,” Kayser unsurprisingly concludes that the death penalty is in fact just, and lists homosexuality among the offenses deserving of capital punishment. Ironically for a "religious liberties" summit, he also claims that the government should treat "breaking the Sabbath," "blasphemy and cursing God publicly," "publicly sacrificing to other gods" and "apostasy" as death penalty crimes as well.
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'Death Penalty For Gays' Literature At Right-Wing Conference

The Christians Who Want To Execute You–And The Republicans Who Court Them
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Such sentiments shouldn’t come as a surprise. Earlier this year, a lawyer named Matthew McLaughlin proposed a ballot measure in California that would allow the state to “put to death by bullets to the head or by any other convenient method” and LGBT citizens. McLaughlin was readily dismissed as just one more nut in the plentiful right-wing orchard, but he was merely reflecting a belief that still lingers on among the right wing, even as society rapidly changes.

And then, of course, there has been the religious right’s promotion of anti-gay legislation in Uganda. An earlier version of that bill would have allowed the country to execute gays, which the American ministers fanning the flames of homophobia conveniently dismissed as going to far.

In fact, there’s a strong thread of kill-the-gays belief running through the religious right. One of the chief influences of the modern conservative evangelical movement is Rousas Rushdoony. Rushdoony founded the Christian Reconstructionist movement, which called for the U.S. to follow Biblical law, including executing LGBT people. The movement remains popular, especially during the GOP primary season. Four years ago, Republicans were tripping all over themselves to court David Barton, who advocates for theocracy.
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The Christians Who Want To Execute You–And The Republicans Who Court Them / Queerty

Well on the political bend of things gays should feel a bit safer with Trump as president. He loves gays (they spend money at his hotels). On the other hand Clinton loves the Saudi money and Wahhabi's also believe gays should be executed.

If the press did not give these off the wall dumb asses press time that could help. Thou shalt not kill remains in effect so if anyone is advocating for the death penalty for someones personal behavioral problems they could be much worse than the ones with those personal issues. On the other hand if less credence was given to some of the sexual weirdos ideologies people would be less inclined to ask for drastic measures. Too much hype and propaganda surround all the BS being pushed upon people. When Babylon 'confusion' is embrace the lowest people in the land are in high places where they do not belong.

trump isn't a homophobe, but his VP pence is & much more. mikey boy will have free reign over what to do with the homogays because trump threw them under the bus just as much as he did with every other voting block -other than straight white rubes.

Trump isn’t homophobe but he is reckless and irresponsible; he’d appoint judges to the Federal courts and Justices to the Supreme Court hostile to the rights of gay Americans, allowing laws to be enacted seeking to disadvantage gay and transgender Americans.

 

[presonorek]

Finally we have two people that have found 2 Christians that want gays dead but nobody has been able to list 3.

i gave you 2. plus your 2 - 4 total. last i heard, 4 was > 3.

My list contained two. Your list contained two. Nobody has been able to list 3. It appears impossible at this point in history. It's very easy yet nobody has the guts to do it. I'm sure not going to do it.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Finally we have two people that have found 2 Christians that want gays dead but nobody has been able to list 3.

This misses the point.

One can find far too many Christians who advocate that gay Americans be denied their right to due process and equal protection of the law, to see gay Americans denied access to marriage, and homosexuality rendered illegal; such Christians are indeed a danger to the civil rights and protected liberties of all Americans.

 

[presonorek]

Finally we have two people that have found 2 Christians that want gays dead but nobody has been able to list 3.

This misses the point.

One can find far too many Christians who advocate that gay Americans be denied their right to due process and equal protection of the law, to see gay Americans denied access to marriage, and homosexuality rendered illegal; such Christians are indeed a danger to the civil rights and protected liberties of all Americans.

How so? Many states including North Carolina (where I live) had amendments added to their constitution that forbade gay marriage. Those actions were struck down by the courts. Forbidding gay marriage is way less provocative than promoting a death penalty for homosexual behavior and Christians couldn't even accomplish that. How do you expect that same voting bloc to accomplish instituting a death penalty for gays? If you think it is possible then your imagination is vast. You should be writing entertaining novels if your imagination is that far away from reality.

Hurting someone's feelings is not a violent act. The most basic freedom we have is freedom of speech. Part of being an American is being subjected to all of that nasty free speech. Getting offended is the most American experience that you can have. Getting offended by hate speech is more American than eating apple pie.

 

[norwegen]

Christians have suffered at the hands of others. Sometimes, a conscientious unbeliever defends them.

The whole account they gave of their crime or error (whichever it is to be called) amounted only to this: namely, that they were accustomed on a stated day to meet before daylight, and to repeat together a set form of prayer to Christ as a God, and to bind themselves by an obligation, not indeed to commit wickedness; but, on the contrary, never to commit theft, robbery, or adultery, never to falsify their word, never to defraud any man: after which it was their custom to separate, and reassemble to partake in common of a harmless meal.​

Pliny the Younger

 

[Harry Dresden]

There is nothing more "safe" than Christianity if you are a human.... what is more precious than your eternal soul?

tell that to all the "heathens" killed by those wonderful Christian humans........

 

[presonorek]

Correction: There are three Christians that want gays dead. I just got the information just a few minutes ago.

 

[presonorek]

Kevin Swanson, Steve Anderson and Roger Jiminez are three Christians that want gays dead. I stand corrected.

 

[sealybobo]

There are less than 3 Christians out of 280 million in the United States that want gays dead. Finding 2 is possible. Finding 3 is impossible.

Steve Anderson and Kevin Swanson are the only two.

You just want to treat them like second class citizens or have them go back in the closet

 

[presonorek]

There are less than 3 Christians out of 280 million in the United States that want gays dead. Finding 2 is possible. Finding 3 is impossible.

Steve Anderson and Kevin Swanson are the only two.

You just want to treat them like second class citizens or have them go back in the closet

I don't think Christians are the only ones that want them to go back in the closet. There is nothing wrong with keeping your sex life private. It shouldn't be anybody's business.