On The Reliability of The Old Testament

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[Taz]

Why should it not be reliable? Don't we rely on ancient Egyptian writings?

Yes, besides from digging through the ruins, we learn much about ancient Egypt through the eyes of ancient Egyptians. Likewise, the Old Testament is ancient Israel's account of ancient Israel. And much of it coincides with what modern historians have discovered about it.

Much about ancient Israel that does not coincide with modern history books is not history in the traditional sense to begin with. Jesus and St. Paul, for example, taught a resurrection from it contrary to what the Pharisees taught. The corporeal resurrection of the Pharisees would and should mount its truth claims on historical documentation, and it would fall short. The new life in God, on the other hand, of Christ and the apostles defies historical documentation.

If only Christians would believe the Scriptures.

What's the proof for the 40 day flood?

Why are you asking me? Did I say anything about proving a 40-day flood?

Get a life, ya broken record ya.

Well you said "If only Christians would believe the Scriptures." So like, maybe if you could prove the Flood, that would help?

Two asteroids struck in the polar regions ~10,000 years ago instantly vaporizing 1500 gigatons of ice into the stratosphere resulting in worldwide flooding events.

 

[irosie91]

it was probably a flood local to Mesopotamia and the future "arabia". Even world war I and
II did not involved THE WHOLE PLANET

 

[norwegen]

Why should it not be reliable? Don't we rely on ancient Egyptian writings?

Yes, besides from digging through the ruins, we learn much about ancient Egypt through the eyes of ancient Egyptians. Likewise, the Old Testament is ancient Israel's account of ancient Israel. And much of it coincides with what modern historians have discovered about it.

Much about ancient Israel that does not coincide with modern history books is not history in the traditional sense to begin with. Jesus and St. Paul, for example, taught a resurrection from it contrary to what the Pharisees taught. The corporeal resurrection of the Pharisees would and should mount its truth claims on historical documentation, and it would fall short. The new life in God, on the other hand, of Christ and the apostles defies historical documentation.

If only Christians would believe the Scriptures.

What's the proof for the 40 day flood?

Why are you asking me? Did I say anything about proving a 40-day flood?

Get a life, ya broken record ya.

Well you said "If only Christians would believe the Scriptures." So like, maybe if you could prove the Flood, that would help?

Two asteroids struck in the polar regions ~10,000 years ago instantly vaporizing 1500 gigatons of ice into the stratosphere resulting in worldwide flooding events.

Yes, global warming. We need to brace ourselves for another global flood.

 

[Taz]

it was probably a flood local to Mesopotamia and the future "arabia". Even world war I and
II did not involved THE WHOLE PLANET

For 40 days they sailed around not seeing land? Is that your final answer?

 

[Taz]

Why should it not be reliable? Don't we rely on ancient Egyptian writings?

Yes, besides from digging through the ruins, we learn much about ancient Egypt through the eyes of ancient Egyptians. Likewise, the Old Testament is ancient Israel's account of ancient Israel. And much of it coincides with what modern historians have discovered about it.

Much about ancient Israel that does not coincide with modern history books is not history in the traditional sense to begin with. Jesus and St. Paul, for example, taught a resurrection from it contrary to what the Pharisees taught. The corporeal resurrection of the Pharisees would and should mount its truth claims on historical documentation, and it would fall short. The new life in God, on the other hand, of Christ and the apostles defies historical documentation.

If only Christians would believe the Scriptures.

What's the proof for the 40 day flood?

Why are you asking me? Did I say anything about proving a 40-day flood?

Get a life, ya broken record ya.

Well you said "If only Christians would believe the Scriptures." So like, maybe if you could prove the Flood, that would help?

Two asteroids struck in the polar regions ~10,000 years ago instantly vaporizing 1500 gigatons of ice into the stratosphere resulting in worldwide flooding events.

Yes, global warming. We need to brace ourselves for another global flood.

So god melted all the ice in the world for 40 days?

 

[norwegen]

Why should it not be reliable? Don't we rely on ancient Egyptian writings?

Yes, besides from digging through the ruins, we learn much about ancient Egypt through the eyes of ancient Egyptians. Likewise, the Old Testament is ancient Israel's account of ancient Israel. And much of it coincides with what modern historians have discovered about it.

Much about ancient Israel that does not coincide with modern history books is not history in the traditional sense to begin with. Jesus and St. Paul, for example, taught a resurrection from it contrary to what the Pharisees taught. The corporeal resurrection of the Pharisees would and should mount its truth claims on historical documentation, and it would fall short. The new life in God, on the other hand, of Christ and the apostles defies historical documentation.

If only Christians would believe the Scriptures.

What's the proof for the 40 day flood?

Why are you asking me? Did I say anything about proving a 40-day flood?

Get a life, ya broken record ya.

Well you said "If only Christians would believe the Scriptures." So like, maybe if you could prove the Flood, that would help?

Two asteroids struck in the polar regions ~10,000 years ago instantly vaporizing 1500 gigatons of ice into the stratosphere resulting in worldwide flooding events.

Yes, global warming. We need to brace ourselves for another global flood.

So god melted all the ice in the world for 40 days?

Yes.

With a toaster.

 

[Taz]

Why should it not be reliable? Don't we rely on ancient Egyptian writings?

Yes, besides from digging through the ruins, we learn much about ancient Egypt through the eyes of ancient Egyptians. Likewise, the Old Testament is ancient Israel's account of ancient Israel. And much of it coincides with what modern historians have discovered about it.

Much about ancient Israel that does not coincide with modern history books is not history in the traditional sense to begin with. Jesus and St. Paul, for example, taught a resurrection from it contrary to what the Pharisees taught. The corporeal resurrection of the Pharisees would and should mount its truth claims on historical documentation, and it would fall short. The new life in God, on the other hand, of Christ and the apostles defies historical documentation.

If only Christians would believe the Scriptures.

What's the proof for the 40 day flood?

Why are you asking me? Did I say anything about proving a 40-day flood?

Get a life, ya broken record ya.

Well you said "If only Christians would believe the Scriptures." So like, maybe if you could prove the Flood, that would help?

Two asteroids struck in the polar regions ~10,000 years ago instantly vaporizing 1500 gigatons of ice into the stratosphere resulting in worldwide flooding events.

Yes, global warming. We need to brace ourselves for another global flood.

So god melted all the ice in the world for 40 days?

Yes.

With a toaster.

And how did he freeze some of it up afterwards?

 

[irosie91]

it was probably a flood local to Mesopotamia and the future "arabia". Even world war I and
II did not involved THE WHOLE PLANET

For 40 days they sailed around not seeing land? Is that your final answer?

they sailed around? The ark has SAILS----and noah had a sexton?

 

[Crepitus]

On the Reliability of the Old Testament: Kitchen, K. A.: 9780802803962: Amazon.com: Books

Research says it is

Well, it says hate homosexuality, but it also says hate oysters and bacon. Do you have oysters and bacon?

 

[jwoodie]

It rained for 40 days. The flood lasted for 150 days. (Gen. 7:24)

 

[alang1216]

On the Reliability of the Old Testament: Kitchen, K. A.: 9780802803962: Amazon.com: Books

Research says it is

It is theology, history, and myth that survived for a millennia as an oral tradition. To trust any of the 3 components of it completely is an act of faith, unsupported by the evidence.

The author says you are very wrong.

Did a tribe of Hebrews conquer Jericho? Probably. Did the walls miraculously come tumbling down for them? Probably not. An event so unique would likely have been recorded by other cultures and probably led pagans to appropriate the Hebrew god.

Historical accuracy: mixed. Theology: God gave the land to the Hebrews.

 

[irosie91]

On the Reliability of the Old Testament: Kitchen, K. A.: 9780802803962: Amazon.com: Books

Research says it is

It is theology, history, and myth that survived for a millennia as an oral tradition. To trust any of the 3 components of it completely is an act of faith, unsupported by the evidence.

The author says you are very wrong.

Did a tribe of Hebrews conquer Jericho? Probably. Did the walls miraculously come tumbling down for them? Probably not. An event so unique would likely have been recorded by other cultures and probably led pagans to appropriate the Hebrew god.

Historical accuracy: mixed. Theology: God gave the land to the Hebrews.

"recorded by other cultures" -----a local earth quake? c'mon-----CNN is, relative to
Joshua------somewhat new. the term "God
gave ---------is in ancient text something like
any natural phenomenon

 

[alang1216]

On the Reliability of the Old Testament: Kitchen, K. A.: 9780802803962: Amazon.com: Books

Research says it is

It is theology, history, and myth that survived for a millennia as an oral tradition. To trust any of the 3 components of it completely is an act of faith, unsupported by the evidence.

The author says you are very wrong.

Did a tribe of Hebrews conquer Jericho? Probably. Did the walls miraculously come tumbling down for them? Probably not. An event so unique would likely have been recorded by other cultures and probably led pagans to appropriate the Hebrew god.

Historical accuracy: mixed. Theology: God gave the land to the Hebrews.

"recorded by other cultures" -----a local earth quake? c'mon-----CNN is, relative to
Joshua------somewhat new. the term "God
gave ---------is in ancient text something like
any natural phenomenon

Maybe. What about Josuha 10:12-14

…12On the day that the LORD gave the Amorites over to the Israelites, Joshua spoke to the LORD in the presence of Israel: “O sun, stand still over Gibeon, O moon, over the Valley of Aijalon.” 13So the sun stood still and the moon stopped until the nation took vengeance upon its enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? “So the sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day.”14There has been no day like it before or since, when the LORD listened to the voice of a man, because the LORD fought for Israel.…​

 

[Taz]

it was probably a flood local to Mesopotamia and the future "arabia". Even world war I and
II did not involved THE WHOLE PLANET

For 40 days they sailed around not seeing land? Is that your final answer?

they sailed around? The ark has SAILS----and noah had a sexton?

Ok, so they floated around for 40 days?

 

[irosie91]

it was probably a flood local to Mesopotamia and the future "arabia". Even world war I and
II did not involved THE WHOLE PLANET

For 40 days they sailed around not seeing land? Is that your final answer?

they sailed around? The ark has SAILS----and noah had a sexton?

Ok, so they floated around for 40 days?

I have an impression regarding hebrew literature. (don't quote me) 7 means
'several' and 40 days means ' a considerable time' YEAH----they floated-----no mention of DESTINATION ------just noah doing the RIGHT THING------like a good boy

 

[ding]

Why should it not be reliable? Don't we rely on ancient Egyptian writings?

Yes, besides from digging through the ruins, we learn much about ancient Egypt through the eyes of ancient Egyptians. Likewise, the Old Testament is ancient Israel's account of ancient Israel. And much of it coincides with what modern historians have discovered about it.

Much about ancient Israel that does not coincide with modern history books is not history in the traditional sense to begin with. Jesus and St. Paul, for example, taught a resurrection from it contrary to what the Pharisees taught. The corporeal resurrection of the Pharisees would and should mount its truth claims on historical documentation, and it would fall short. The new life in God, on the other hand, of Christ and the apostles defies historical documentation.

If only Christians would believe the Scriptures.

What's the proof for the 40 day flood?

Why are you asking me? Did I say anything about proving a 40-day flood?

Get a life, ya broken record ya.

Well you said "If only Christians would believe the Scriptures." So like, maybe if you could prove the Flood, that would help?

Two asteroids struck in the polar regions ~10,000 years ago instantly vaporizing 1500 gigatons of ice into the stratosphere resulting in worldwide flooding events.

Science | AAAS

advances.sciencemag.org

 

[Taz]

Why should it not be reliable? Don't we rely on ancient Egyptian writings?

Yes, besides from digging through the ruins, we learn much about ancient Egypt through the eyes of ancient Egyptians. Likewise, the Old Testament is ancient Israel's account of ancient Israel. And much of it coincides with what modern historians have discovered about it.

Much about ancient Israel that does not coincide with modern history books is not history in the traditional sense to begin with. Jesus and St. Paul, for example, taught a resurrection from it contrary to what the Pharisees taught. The corporeal resurrection of the Pharisees would and should mount its truth claims on historical documentation, and it would fall short. The new life in God, on the other hand, of Christ and the apostles defies historical documentation.

If only Christians would believe the Scriptures.

What's the proof for the 40 day flood?

Why are you asking me? Did I say anything about proving a 40-day flood?

Get a life, ya broken record ya.

Well you said "If only Christians would believe the Scriptures." So like, maybe if you could prove the Flood, that would help?

Two asteroids struck in the polar regions ~10,000 years ago instantly vaporizing 1500 gigatons of ice into the stratosphere resulting in worldwide flooding events.

Science | AAAS

advances.sciencemag.org

Doesn't mention a flood. You suck at this.

 

[ding]

Why should it not be reliable? Don't we rely on ancient Egyptian writings?

Yes, besides from digging through the ruins, we learn much about ancient Egypt through the eyes of ancient Egyptians. Likewise, the Old Testament is ancient Israel's account of ancient Israel. And much of it coincides with what modern historians have discovered about it.

Much about ancient Israel that does not coincide with modern history books is not history in the traditional sense to begin with. Jesus and St. Paul, for example, taught a resurrection from it contrary to what the Pharisees taught. The corporeal resurrection of the Pharisees would and should mount its truth claims on historical documentation, and it would fall short. The new life in God, on the other hand, of Christ and the apostles defies historical documentation.

If only Christians would believe the Scriptures.

What's the proof for the 40 day flood?

Why are you asking me? Did I say anything about proving a 40-day flood?

Get a life, ya broken record ya.

Well you said "If only Christians would believe the Scriptures." So like, maybe if you could prove the Flood, that would help?

Two asteroids struck in the polar regions ~10,000 years ago instantly vaporizing 1500 gigatons of ice into the stratosphere resulting in worldwide flooding events.

Science | AAAS

advances.sciencemag.org

Doesn't mention a flood. You suck at this.

What goes up must come down, dummy?

Did you see where it mentioned a climate altering event?

 

[Viktor]

Why should it not be reliable? Don't we rely on ancient Egyptian writings?

Yes, besides from digging through the ruins, we learn much about ancient Egypt through the eyes of ancient Egyptians. Likewise, the Old Testament is ancient Israel's account of ancient Israel. And much of it coincides with what modern historians have discovered about it.

Much about ancient Israel that does not coincide with modern history books is not history in the traditional sense to begin with. Jesus and St. Paul, for example, taught a resurrection from it contrary to what the Pharisees taught. The corporeal resurrection of the Pharisees would and should mount its truth claims on historical documentation, and it would fall short. The new life in God, on the other hand, of Christ and the apostles defies historical documentation.

If only Christians would believe the Scriptures.

What's the proof for the 40 day flood?

Why are you asking me? Did I say anything about proving a 40-day flood?

Get a life, ya broken record ya.

Well you said "If only Christians would believe the Scriptures." So like, maybe if you could prove the Flood, that would help?

Two asteroids struck in the polar regions ~10,000 years ago instantly vaporizing 1500 gigatons of ice into the stratosphere resulting in worldwide flooding events.

Science | AAAS

advances.sciencemag.org

Doesn't mention a flood. You suck at this.

In every ancient culture, you will find a great flood story. Something happened back then. The Nile River, which runs thru Egypt, overflows it's banks every year.