On this 4th of July........Don’t forget to thank a Liberal

Are founding fathers ran around on horse back they read news papers ..


The militia was pissed ,

Just like today
 
Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation

You're trying to sell balls as kidneys and say that you're just as our FFs were.

Your type of liberals are Lenin, Stalin, Marx, Mao, Castro, Chavez...
 
Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation
/——/ Our Founding Fathers believed marriage was between a man and woman. Liberals, not so much.
Values change...they recognize that

They never put marriage was between a man and a woman in the constitution
/——-/ Our Founding Fathers who devised the Electoral College and accepted the outcome of elections without endless nothing Burger witch hunts. Liberals, not so much.
 
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You didn't answer the question. Who did the most people vote for? You brought up the popular vote.


Illegals we all know the states refuse to release the information..

Kris Kobach got the count from his own state, and it didn't show more than a dozen illegal votes. He stopped counting at 73 for the entire decade.


The Trump administrations asked for each state to release the voters booth and 45 states declined, so what are they hiding?
 
oh... I never, never, NEVAH! forget to thank liberals! hehe

It's because of them we have President Trump! :yes_text12:



Thank you thank you thank you :bow2::bow2::bow2:
 
Government is a consumer, it's not a producer.

This is something that isnt discussed anywhere nearly as much as it should be. Great point. The government doesn't produce anything. Therefore, the government has nothing. Anything they aquire, they take from producers and then they redistribute what they took from producers however they want to others arbitrarily.

They're not even consumers. They're thieves.
Libertarian horsecrap. Consider the contracts of DOD with the military. Those are mighty producers.

Consider the contracts of the US with not only the military forces but all of the agencies and businesses that supported the effort in WWII.

The workers never would have tolerated libertarian propaganda in their factories.


Wow, you choose less than 1% of the governments activities and one that is actually constitutional for your example. Military contractors produce mostly expendables. Things that have no advantage to the everyday citizen, but necessary to the survival of the country. Unfortunately the federal bureaucracy makes even that cost much more than it should. Because the bureaucracy consumes.


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The Trump administrations asked for each state to release the voters booth and 45 states declined, so what are they hiding?

States released a range of information from none to full compliance. And from those that produced Kobach what he wanted, he didn't find more than a handful of illegla votes. That's why Trump closed the commission because it showed the illegal votes in 2016 were less than a tenth of a percent.
 
The Trump administrations asked for each state to release the voters booth and 45 states declined, so what are they hiding?

States released a range of information from none to full compliance. And from those that produced Kobach what he wanted, he didn't find more than a handful of illegla votes. That's why Trump closed the commission because it showed the illegal votes in 2016 were less than a tenth of a percent.


Bullshit 45 states refused, because they knew illegals were voting ..
 
The liberalism of the Founding Fathers was exactly the opposite of the kind you have been brainwashed with. They believed in freedom. You don't. Notice that freedom was the main goal of the Founding Fathers, and you don't even mention it. They certainly didn't give a fuck about the common people voting. In fact they greatly feared it.
Why do Conservatives continuallly regurgitate nonsense like.......Liberals don’t believe in freedom?

It shows how limited your intelligence is


Recent examples prove otherwise.


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Hardly


Violence on college campuses to prevent people from simply speaking, hounding administration officials in public because of differences in policy. I could go on, but that's not promoting freedom, it's quite the opposite.


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Constitution provides a right to protest


Address grievances to the government, yes, harass, riot and threaten other citizens, NO!


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That's why we have the 2 nd amendment to protect the 1st.

Why does the 2nd have two clauses? And why do you ignore the first.


Put it this way , that 1776, this is 2018

Context means everything

The first rule of contracts, every word has meaning. And is to interpreted where no clause is rendered moot.


No read the bible or koran..thats the way the constitution was written, read the federalist papers..


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Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation

The same ones that outlawed income tax?

Call 'em whatever the hell you want, can we embrace that liberal idea?
Income tax funds our government

The founders gave Congress that responsibility
So we didn't have government before 1916?
Times change...so do revenue sources
Yes, empires use different methods than free states. We fought a revolution to get out of an empire.
 

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