On this 4th of July........Don’t forget to thank a Liberal

[Weatherman2020]

Indeed, but the classical liberalism they fostered had nothing in common philosophically with you term-absconding modern-day Bolsheviks.

A liberal is a liberal, is a liberal.

LOL! Uh, no, liberalism in the 18th century bore no resemblance to modern American liberalism. You are smoking something if you think James Madison, Alexander Hamilton, Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, and George Washington would be liberals in our day. They would view you and your fellow liberals as sick, immoral, and ignorant Jacobin radicals.

Our founders would be proud of today’s liberals ....they have the same values

They would be appalled at American Conservatism

The first shots of the Revolutionary War was when the government came to confiscate guns of citizens, Dufus.

So we shot them.

They were not going after individual guns but the arsenal of the militia

Confiscation of the weapons of citizens triggered the war.

 

[jknowgood]

Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Indeed, but the classical liberalism they fostered had nothing in common philosophically with you term-absconding modern-day Bolsheviks.

A liberal is a liberal, is a liberal.

LOL! Uh, no, liberalism in the 18th century bore no resemblance to modern American liberalism. You are smoking something if you think James Madison, Alexander Hamilton, Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, and George Washington would be liberals in our day. They would view you and your fellow liberals as sick, immoral, and ignorant Jacobin radicals.

Our founders would be proud of today’s liberals ....they have the same values

They would be appalled at American Conservatism

Yes they would be proud.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation

Got to love they had slaves, huh?

Society changes
The first step towards freedom had to be recognition of the common man vs royals. At that time, it did not include blacks, women or native Americans

Liberals tackled those issues in later generations

And just as we look upon slavery today with disgust so shall future generations look upon ripping children from the wombs of mothers.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Indeed, but the classical liberalism they fostered had nothing in common philosophically with you term-absconding modern-day Bolsheviks.

A liberal is a liberal, is a liberal

They evolve as new issues arrive

Classical liberalism is diametrically opposed to socialism ergo, such an "evolution" would be philosophically impossible.

 

[miketx]

One thing is certain, liberals never stop trying to re-write history and to tear this country down. Never. They are a plague worse than the biblical locust.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation

Paranoid Slave rapists who didn't want to pay their taxes, subjugating women and stealing land from Indians and Mexicans.

Yet there you happily sit on land stolen from the Indians.

Dumbass.

 

[rightwinger]

Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation

Got to love they had slaves, huh?

Society changes
The first step towards freedom had to be recognition of the common man vs royals. At that time, it did not include blacks, women or native Americans

Liberals tackled those issues in later generations

Why didn't they do it in the first place?

All they had to do was write a law, I am sure everyone would of agreed..


No?

No

 

[rightwinger]

Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Indeed, but the classical liberalism they fostered had nothing in common philosophically with you term-absconding modern-day Bolsheviks.

A liberal is a liberal, is a liberal

They evolve as new issues arrive

Classical liberalism is diametrically opposed to socialism ergo, such an "evolution" would be philosophically impossible.

That is why classical liberalism is not valid liberalism

Liberalism evolves to face new issues of society. Liberalism is not frozen in time

 

[rightwinger]

A liberal is a liberal, is a liberal.

LOL! Uh, no, liberalism in the 18th century bore no resemblance to modern American liberalism. You are smoking something if you think James Madison, Alexander Hamilton, Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, and George Washington would be liberals in our day. They would view you and your fellow liberals as sick, immoral, and ignorant Jacobin radicals.

Our founders would be proud of today’s liberals ....they have the same values

They would be appalled at American Conservatism

The first shots of the Revolutionary War was when the government came to confiscate guns of citizens, Dufus.

So we shot them.

They were not going after individual guns but the arsenal of the militia

Confiscation of the weapons of citizens triggered the war.

Taxation without representation triggered the war

 

[Yousaidwhat]

Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation

Paranoid Slave rapists who didn't want to pay their taxes, subjugating women and stealing land from Indians and Mexicans.

Yet there you happily sit on land stolen from the Indians.

Dumbass.

Wait!

Stop!

I didn't say I believed it.

I learnt that from JoeB131, our resident "Republican scholar."

I learnt lots of anti American lessons from him.

Like the one about guns and penises.

And the War on Women.

You mean none of it is true?

Guess I won't be getting a deeploma from USMB University.

So much for free edumacation.

Thank you, America.

 

[Wyatt earp]

LOL! Uh, no, liberalism in the 18th century bore no resemblance to modern American liberalism. You are smoking something if you think James Madison, Alexander Hamilton, Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, and George Washington would be liberals in our day. They would view you and your fellow liberals as sick, immoral, and ignorant Jacobin radicals.

Our founders would be proud of today’s liberals ....they have the same values

They would be appalled at American Conservatism

The first shots of the Revolutionary War was when the government came to confiscate guns of citizens, Dufus.

So we shot them.

They were not going after individual guns but the arsenal of the militia

Confiscation of the weapons of citizens triggered the war.

Taxation without representation triggered the war

Bullshit they didn't want representation, they had it with Benjamin Franklin over in great britian..

 

[gipper]

Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation

Troll thread committed by a troll.

This should be in the Flame Zone.

American History on the Fourth of July

There is no dispute that the founding fathers were Liberals

Yes...they were Classical Liberals, not neo-fascist liberals like you.

 

[Polishprince]

The idea that the Founding Fathers were liberal in the modern sense is absurd. In fact, not only did NONE of the 13 original colonies have gay marriage, none of them even had legalized sodomy.

Washington, Jefferson, et al were "Fundy homophobes" by the current definition.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation

Yet in 2018, when Conservatives do thank the 1776 Liberal (Founding Fathers), the 2018 Liberal is quick to point out that the Founding Fathers were slaveowners and are in the process of having their statues removed.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation

As far as I know your founding fathers were very religious people. Liberals now remember about God, Heavens or hell only when it may bring them political points.

Some were, some were not. Many were Deists.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation

Paranoid Slave rapists who didn't want to pay their taxes, subjugating women and stealing land from Indians and Mexicans.

That's our liberals!

 

[1stRambo]

Yo, """The Founding Fathers might be comparable to modern Libertarians""" not the Socialist of today!!!

"GTP"

 

[Thinker101]

Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation

Yes indeed, thank you liberals for opening the door for someone like Trump. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

 

[rightwinger]

The idea that the Founding Fathers were liberal in the modern sense is absurd. In fact, not only did NONE of the 13 original colonies have gay marriage, none of them even had legalized sodomy.

Washington, Jefferson, et al were "Fundy homophobes" by the current definition.

Again you obsess over evolving issues over time

Liberalism is a mindset....it is not cast in stone

 

[rightwinger]

Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation

Yes indeed, thank you liberals for opening the door for someone like Trump. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Fear and repressed hatred opened the door to Trump