On this 4th of July........Don’t forget to thank a Liberal

The idea that the Founding Fathers were liberal in the modern sense is absurd. In fact, not only did NONE of the 13 original colonies have gay marriage, none of them even had legalized sodomy.

Washington, Jefferson, et al were "Fundy homophobes" by the current definition.

Again you obsess over evolving issues over time

Liberalism is a mindset....it is not cast in stone

So you are saying that because the then Liberal mindset of The Founding Fathers was successful that one ought to always thank and embrace Liberalism?
Absolutely........it is the only way we get things done

Do we
The idea that the Founding Fathers were liberal in the modern sense is absurd. In fact, not only did NONE of the 13 original colonies have gay marriage, none of them even had legalized sodomy.

Washington, Jefferson, et al were "Fundy homophobes" by the current definition.

Again you obsess over evolving issues over time

Liberalism is a mindset....it is not cast in stone

So you are saying that because the then Liberal mindset of The Founding Fathers was successful that one ought to always thank and embrace Liberalism?
Absolutely........it is the only way we get things done

Interesting. Yet we don’t thank
The idea that the Founding Fathers were liberal in the modern sense is absurd. In fact, not only did NONE of the 13 original colonies have gay marriage, none of them even had legalized sodomy.

Washington, Jefferson, et al were "Fundy homophobes" by the current definition.

Again you obsess over evolving issues over time

Liberalism is a mindset....it is not cast in stone

So you are saying that because the then Liberal mindset of The Founding Fathers was successful that one ought to always thank and embrace Liberalism?
Absolutely........it is the only way we get things done

I see. It was that same “liberal” mindset that felt change was necessary in 2016 in voting for Trump over Hillary and continuation of Obama. The only way to get things done
 
Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation


What does that have to do with you regressive Communists and your hatred of civil rights?

BTW, Fredrich Hegel, the basis of the Marxist doctrine you democrats follow, was a Monarchist, arguing that society must have a ruler.

So in this too, you blatantly lie.
You worship Pol Pot
 
I know......ensuring healthcare for all, protecting the environment, protecting the needy makes for a shithole

Who's going to protect the environment from you and what your EPA did to the Animus River in Colorado?

river.jpg


Or the water in Flint, Michigan?
Minor accident
Thank the EPA for clean air and water

Otherwise look at the environment in China
 
Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation
As far as I know your founding fathers were very religious people. Liberals now remember about God, Heavens or hell only when it may bring them political points.

Albright: 'special place in hell' for women who don't support Clinton

Founding fathers must be spinning in their graves when compared to today's liberals.


These like Shitflinger are not "liberals." They are leftists, Marxists. They are as illiberal as is possible to be.
 
I know......ensuring healthcare for all, protecting the environment, protecting the needy makes for a shithole

Who's going to protect the environment from you and what your EPA did to the Animus River in Colorado?

river.jpg


Or the water in Flint, Michigan?
Minor accident
Thank the EPA for clean air and water

Otherwise look at the environment in China

You people ought to be thanking liberal President Nixon for the EPA.
 
I know......ensuring healthcare for all, protecting the environment, protecting the needy makes for a shithole

Who's going to protect the environment from you and what your EPA did to the Animus River in Colorado?

river.jpg


Or the water in Flint, Michigan?
Minor accident
Thank the EPA for clean air and water

Otherwise look at the environment in China

You people ought to be thanking liberal President Nixon for the EPA.
Great act by Nixon is signing a liberal legislation
 
I know......ensuring healthcare for all, protecting the environment, protecting the needy makes for a shithole

Who's going to protect the environment from you and what your EPA did to the Animus River in Colorado?

river.jpg


Or the water in Flint, Michigan?
Minor accident
Thank the EPA for clean air and water

Otherwise look at the environment in China

You people ought to be thanking liberal President Nixon for the EPA.
Great act by Nixon is signing a liberal legislation

Nixon was a liberal.
 
Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation


Now you'll see cons frantically revise history to fit their Stalinesque view.
 
Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation


Now you'll see cons frantically revise history to fit their Stalinesque view.


DERP

Comrade, name something "liberal" about the Stalinist democrats?

You seek to end freedom of speech, you seek to crush freedom of religion, you have already destroyed freedom of association, you seek to destroy the right of arms for self-defense, you seek to crush the right to be secure in person and papers through your spying on political enemies and use of the IRS to attack normals.

You Communists scum are anti-liberal in every way.

You have NOTHING in common with Jefferson (whom you hate) or Paine. But Pol Pot is your twin...
 
Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation


Now you'll see cons frantically revise history to fit their Stalinesque view.

Liberals today like to celebrate that the Founders were Liberals yet are quick to dismiss Founders’ views because they were slaveowners. Liberals today call themselves Democrats and are quick to forget that Democrats fought to preserve slavery and hold up Civil Rights; that is, until they realized Civil Rights could be exchanged for votes.
 
The Founding Fathers were traditional liberals. Dr. Franklin and Thomas Jefferson were epitomes of liberal thought in the 18th century. Colleges and universities used to be the centers of lively exchanges of ideas and opinions but today the so-called liberal establishment has perverted them into silent halls where big brother is always watching for violations of liberal dogma and assault on persons who have a different opinion is encouraged. The Founding Fathers would be shocked at what liberalism has become.
 
The Founding Fathers were traditional liberals. Dr. Franklin and Thomas Jefferson were epitomes of liberal thought in the 18th century. Colleges and universities used to be the centers of lively exchanges of ideas and opinions but today the so-called liberal establishment has perverted them into silent halls where big brother is always watching for violations of liberal dogma and assault on persons who have a different opinion is encouraged. The Founding Fathers would be shocked at what liberalism has become.


Leftism <> Liberalism

Marx <> Jeffereson

democrats are Stalinists, authoritarian thugs seeking to crush civil rights. There is nothing even hinting at "liberal" with the democrats.
 
For the framers of the Constitution were the most liberal thinkers of all the ages and the charter they produced out of the liberal revolution of their time has never been and is not now surpassed in liberal thought.
Douglas MacArthur
 
Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation


Now you'll see cons frantically revise history to fit their Stalinesque view.
They think because the have finally accepted 18 th century liberal values, that make them like the founders
 
The Founding Fathers were traditional liberals. Dr. Franklin and Thomas Jefferson were epitomes of liberal thought in the 18th century. Colleges and universities used to be the centers of lively exchanges of ideas and opinions but today the so-called liberal establishment has perverted them into silent halls where big brother is always watching for violations of liberal dogma and assault on persons who have a different opinion is encouraged. The Founding Fathers would be shocked at what liberalism has become.


Leftism <> Liberalism

Marx <> Jeffereson

democrats are Stalinists, authoritarian thugs seeking to crush civil rights. There is nothing even hinting at "liberal" with the democrats.
Pol Pot was a Republican
 
Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation
You need to talk with your handlers they are giving mixed messages to you
This July 4, let's not mince words: American independence in 1776 was a monumental mistake. We should be mourning the fact that we left the United Kingdom, not cheering it.
3 reasons the American Revolution was a mistake
You have done a 180 in four years, but congrats on being honest about it.
 
Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation
that common people should vote
unless they were black or female.....
 
Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation
As far as I know your founding fathers were very religious people. Liberals now remember about God, Heavens or hell only when it may bring them political points.

Albright: 'special place in hell' for women who don't support Clinton

Founding fathers must be spinning in their graves when compared to today's liberals.
those guys would have captured todays liberals and sent them back to England....
 
The idea that the Founding Fathers were liberal in the modern sense is absurd. In fact, not only did NONE of the 13 original colonies have gay marriage, none of them even had legalized sodomy.

Washington, Jefferson, et al were "Fundy homophobes" by the current definition.
You have issued a fallacy of false premise: no one has suggested the FF were liberal in the modern sense.

Thus everything you build from it is immaterial.
 

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