One Decision on Social Distancing Could Have Prevented 90% of US Coronavirus Deaths

[Polishprince]

CDC experts said nothing at all about "social distancing" in early March. At that point in time, the thought was that this virus was picked up off of surfaces, not through the air.

Just another case where these so-called experts got it wrong.

President Trump's error was in putting too much trust in technocrats like Tony Fauci and not enough in loyal Americans like his Beloved Son in Law Jared Kushner and his Tremendous neighbor El Rushbo.

 

[MeBelle]

And do you imagine those of us who are posting these truths would continue to do so if Trumpleton's acknowledged them? I mean, you do understand repeating 2+2 does not equal 4 causes us to prove you are wrong, right?

When you start posting truths maybe you'll be taken seriously.

 

[joaquinmiller]

Is it your position the study is flawed?

no, it's my position that I, and others, are tired of you posting the same damn crap day, after day, after day.

Has there been one day in the last month that you haven't posted this post, or a clone of it?

One?

you're a one trick pony.

and the trick is old and boring.

Kinda like the MAGA thing.
Old and boring.

Or the TDS deflections, by the thousands. It's the Politics thread - I don't know why they want to dismiss politics.

 

[Olde Europe]

As is customary, you offer an opinion on the poster, rather than the post. You and jitt's, eh?

Yes, if Trump had taken the threat seriously from the beginning - rather than indulging in wishful thinking and his perceived self-interest in propping up the markets - American lives would likely have been saved. Is that too hard to acknowledge?

You know how that goes, don't you? Acknowledging evidence for things that would upset and hurt the Trumpy is very hard, indeed. And thus they are making sure ...

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[ColonelAngus]

Berg,

I suggest you not vote for Trump in November. ORANGE MAN BAD.

 

[berg80]

There is no study, fool. It's an opinion with zero backup.

You're full of shit.

 

[Maxdeath]

Wow amazing how great 20/20 hindsight is. Just simply amazing.
Funny how you don't want to ding Pelozi fro walking hand in hand down the streets of Chinatown wanting others to come join her. Funny how you overlook New York City mayor riding on a subway saying it was safe. Then dropping the number of cars so more were packed in together. But can't blame them, they have a D.

Funny that you completely forget that Trump followed his medical advisors directions even to the social distancing.
But it is all him.

And just what have the democrats done during this crisis to help? Biden talked about Trump being xenophobic. Pelosi held up the CARES in an attempt to get more pork and green deals.
They are holding up the help for small business. In other words they have done nothing of any import.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The timing of social distancing can have an exponential effect on the death toll of the coronavirus, epidemiologists Britta L. Jewell and Nicholas P. Jewell recently wrote in The New York Times.

"The White House started issuing social-distancing guidelines on March 16, more than two weeks after the first COVID-19 related death. However, an estimated 90% percent of coronavirus deaths in the US could have possibly been avoided if social distancing began March 2, according to the two health experts.

Lockdowns and social distancing have become the new norm, but according to the experts, they are not the answer to fighting the coronavirus, instead, they are a tool to buy more time while treatments and vaccines are researched and developed.

While social-distancing measures aren't a cure for the disease, epidemiologists Britta and Nicholas Jewel said the timing of such measures can be the difference between life and death on a massive scale."

2 medical experts estimate 90% of coronavirus deaths in the US could have been avoided if everyone started social distancing on March 2

Health experts say social-distancing measures have an exponential effect on coronavirus deaths, and relaxing measures too soon could be devastating.

www.businessinsider.com

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No one can say with certainty how many lives could have been saved if the Golfer-in-Chief had acted earlier. What we can say is instead of doing so he concentrated on protecting his chances of re-election (while playing golf and holding rallies) by prioritizing the short term economic impact of a shutdown over human lives. He waited too long to act.

Which is why so much time and effort is being expended by the Bigot-in-Chief and his media allies to distort the truth about his inaction. He waited too long to act.

Trumpette's have been conditioned to reflexively bring up Don's China travel restriction. The one that came 10 days after the CDC announced the first US case of the virus, a person who traveled here from China. The one delayed by Don's concern for not upsetting China shortly after a truce in the trade war had been announced. The one that did not include people traveling from Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan. The one that did not include EU countries where a majority of cases in NY came from. The one that allowed nearly 40,000 people coming from China in to the country in the two months after Trump imposed restrictions. Importantly, screening proceedings of travelers from China have been uneven and inconsistent. That "travel ban." The one predicted to be ineffective.
“All of the evidence we have indicates that travel restrictions and quarantines directed at individual countries are unlikely to keep the virus out of our borders,” said Jennifer Nuzzo, associate professor and senior scholar at Johns Hopkins University’s Center for Health Security, at a congressional hearing Feb. 5."

Taking action far too late to be effective has caused the Trump admin to seek to deflect blame for the outbreak here.

They tried to get us to believe......at different times..........the fault for the botched response lies with China, Obama, Pelosi, the CDC, De Blasio, the WHO, the governors, because the Denier-in-Chief takes responsibility for nothing..........and credit for everything. There is a grain of truth in some of those accusations. But the bottom line is only one person had the information and the authority to make an informed decision that could have saved lives. He didn't. He failed in the first obligation of a POTUS, to keep US citizens safe. He waited too long to act.


Just to get ahead of the curve, Trumpleton responses to this thread will begin with Trump Denial Syndrome post # 173,408.

Trump wasn't enough of a Dictator for you -- got it

 

[berg80]

"Most Americans expect no immediate easing of the health risks associated with the coronavirus pandemic, despite calls by President Trump and others to begin reopening the economy quickly. A majority say it could be June or later before it will be safe for larger gatherings to take place again, according to a Washington Post-University of Maryland poll.
Most Americans — 54 percent — give the president negative marks for his handling of the outbreak in this country and offer mixed reviews for the federal government as a whole. By contrast, 72 percent of Americans give positive ratings to the governors of their states for the way they have dealt with the crisis, with workers also rating their employers positively."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/most-rate-trumps-coronavirus-response-negatively-and-expect-crowds-will-be-unsafe-until-summer-post-u-md-poll-finds/2020/04/20/0b436dda-833b-11ea-a3eb-e9fc93160703_story.html

 

[Maxdeath]

The timing of social distancing can have an exponential effect on the death toll of the coronavirus, epidemiologists Britta L. Jewell and Nicholas P. Jewell recently wrote in The New York Times.

"The White House started issuing social-distancing guidelines on March 16, more than two weeks after the first COVID-19 related death. However, an estimated 90% percent of coronavirus deaths in the US could have possibly been avoided if social distancing began March 2, according to the two health experts.

Lockdowns and social distancing have become the new norm, but according to the experts, they are not the answer to fighting the coronavirus, instead, they are a tool to buy more time while treatments and vaccines are researched and developed.

While social-distancing measures aren't a cure for the disease, epidemiologists Britta and Nicholas Jewel said the timing of such measures can be the difference between life and death on a massive scale."

2 medical experts estimate 90% of coronavirus deaths in the US could have been avoided if everyone started social distancing on March 2

Health experts say social-distancing measures have an exponential effect on coronavirus deaths, and relaxing measures too soon could be devastating.

www.businessinsider.com

.......................................................................................................................................................
No one can say with certainty how many lives could have been saved if the Golfer-in-Chief had acted earlier. What we can say is instead of doing so he concentrated on protecting his chances of re-election (while playing golf and holding rallies) by prioritizing the short term economic impact of a shutdown over human lives. He waited too long to act.

Which is why so much time and effort is being expended by the Bigot-in-Chief and his media allies to distort the truth about his inaction. He waited too long to act.

Trumpette's have been conditioned to reflexively bring up Don's China travel restriction. The one that came 10 days after the CDC announced the first US case of the virus, a person who traveled here from China. The one delayed by Don's concern for not upsetting China shortly after a truce in the trade war had been announced. The one that did not include people traveling from Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan. The one that did not include EU countries where a majority of cases in NY came from. The one that allowed nearly 40,000 people coming from China in to the country in the two months after Trump imposed restrictions. Importantly, screening proceedings of travelers from China have been uneven and inconsistent. That "travel ban." The one predicted to be ineffective.
“All of the evidence we have indicates that travel restrictions and quarantines directed at individual countries are unlikely to keep the virus out of our borders,” said Jennifer Nuzzo, associate professor and senior scholar at Johns Hopkins University’s Center for Health Security, at a congressional hearing Feb. 5."

Taking action far too late to be effective has caused the Trump admin to seek to deflect blame for the outbreak here.

They tried to get us to believe......at different times..........the fault for the botched response lies with China, Obama, Pelosi, the CDC, De Blasio, the WHO, the governors, because the Denier-in-Chief takes responsibility for nothing..........and credit for everything. There is a grain of truth in some of those accusations. But the bottom line is only one person had the information and the authority to make an informed decision that could have saved lives. He didn't. He failed in the first obligation of a POTUS, to keep US citizens safe. He waited too long to act.


Just to get ahead of the curve, Trumpleton responses to this thread will begin with Trump Denial Syndrome post # 173,408.

You of course do realize that this is an opinion piece that is looking at things from a hindsight perspective and these people never spoke out until now? Where were their oh so knowledgeable voices when this first happened? No where to be found.
Next we are going to have a so called expert tell us that if they had found the polio vaccine months before they did many would not have had a problem. Perhaps they can even tell us if Napoleon won or lost at Waterloo

 

[joaquinmiller]

Wow amazing how great 20/20 hindsight is. Just simply amazing.
Funny how you don't want to ding Pelozi fro walking hand in hand down the streets of Chinatown wanting others to come join her. Funny how you overlook New York City mayor riding on a subway saying it was safe. Then dropping the number of cars so more were packed in together. But can't blame them, they have a D.

Funny that you completely forget that Trump followed his medical advisors directions even to the social distancing.
But it is all him.

And just what have the democrats done during this crisis to help? Biden talked about Trump being xenophobic. Pelosi held up the CARES in an attempt to get more pork and green deals.
They are holding up the help for small business. In other words they have done nothing of any import.

It's amazing how you Trumpists have a mental (pardon the expression) block prohibiting you from remembering Trump saying cases were going down, not up, and would soon be very close to zero, after Pelosi's walk through Chinatown. Are you thinking Pelosi had inside info that Trump didn't? Or perhaps you expect her to act more rationally than he? Can't blame you there.

 

[joaquinmiller]

The timing of social distancing can have an exponential effect on the death toll of the coronavirus, epidemiologists Britta L. Jewell and Nicholas P. Jewell recently wrote in The New York Times.

"The White House started issuing social-distancing guidelines on March 16, more than two weeks after the first COVID-19 related death. However, an estimated 90% percent of coronavirus deaths in the US could have possibly been avoided if social distancing began March 2, according to the two health experts.

Lockdowns and social distancing have become the new norm, but according to the experts, they are not the answer to fighting the coronavirus, instead, they are a tool to buy more time while treatments and vaccines are researched and developed.

While social-distancing measures aren't a cure for the disease, epidemiologists Britta and Nicholas Jewel said the timing of such measures can be the difference between life and death on a massive scale."

2 medical experts estimate 90% of coronavirus deaths in the US could have been avoided if everyone started social distancing on March 2

Health experts say social-distancing measures have an exponential effect on coronavirus deaths, and relaxing measures too soon could be devastating.

www.businessinsider.com

.......................................................................................................................................................
No one can say with certainty how many lives could have been saved if the Golfer-in-Chief had acted earlier. What we can say is instead of doing so he concentrated on protecting his chances of re-election (while playing golf and holding rallies) by prioritizing the short term economic impact of a shutdown over human lives. He waited too long to act.

Which is why so much time and effort is being expended by the Bigot-in-Chief and his media allies to distort the truth about his inaction. He waited too long to act.

Trumpette's have been conditioned to reflexively bring up Don's China travel restriction. The one that came 10 days after the CDC announced the first US case of the virus, a person who traveled here from China. The one delayed by Don's concern for not upsetting China shortly after a truce in the trade war had been announced. The one that did not include people traveling from Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan. The one that did not include EU countries where a majority of cases in NY came from. The one that allowed nearly 40,000 people coming from China in to the country in the two months after Trump imposed restrictions. Importantly, screening proceedings of travelers from China have been uneven and inconsistent. That "travel ban." The one predicted to be ineffective.
“All of the evidence we have indicates that travel restrictions and quarantines directed at individual countries are unlikely to keep the virus out of our borders,” said Jennifer Nuzzo, associate professor and senior scholar at Johns Hopkins University’s Center for Health Security, at a congressional hearing Feb. 5."

Taking action far too late to be effective has caused the Trump admin to seek to deflect blame for the outbreak here.

They tried to get us to believe......at different times..........the fault for the botched response lies with China, Obama, Pelosi, the CDC, De Blasio, the WHO, the governors, because the Denier-in-Chief takes responsibility for nothing..........and credit for everything. There is a grain of truth in some of those accusations. But the bottom line is only one person had the information and the authority to make an informed decision that could have saved lives. He didn't. He failed in the first obligation of a POTUS, to keep US citizens safe. He waited too long to act.


Just to get ahead of the curve, Trumpleton responses to this thread will begin with Trump Denial Syndrome post # 173,408.

Trump wasn't enough of a Dictator for you -- got it

Too much of a cheerleader, and not enough of a realist.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Apparently the OP is too stupid to know about hindsight being 20/20.

 

[berg80]

Trump wasn't enough of a Dictator for you

He wasn't enough of an effective leader who fulfilled his obligation to protect the country. Declaring a national shutdown order was the responsible thing to do. He didn't do it. That what failure looks like.

 

[SmokeALib]

Is it your position the study is flawed?

no, it's my position that I, and others, are tired of you posting the same damn crap day, after day, after day.

Has there been one day in the last month that you haven't posted this post, or a clone of it?

One?

you're a one trick pony.

and the trick is old and boring.

Kinda like the MAGA thing.
Old and boring.

The timing of social distancing can have an exponential effect on the death toll of the coronavirus, epidemiologists Britta L. Jewell and Nicholas P. Jewell recently wrote in The New York Times.

"The White House started issuing social-distancing guidelines on March 16, more than two weeks after the first COVID-19 related death. However, an estimated 90% percent of coronavirus deaths in the US could have possibly been avoided if social distancing began March 2, according to the two health experts.

Lockdowns and social distancing have become the new norm, but according to the experts, they are not the answer to fighting the coronavirus, instead, they are a tool to buy more time while treatments and vaccines are researched and developed.

While social-distancing measures aren't a cure for the disease, epidemiologists Britta and Nicholas Jewel said the timing of such measures can be the difference between life and death on a massive scale."

2 medical experts estimate 90% of coronavirus deaths in the US could have been avoided if everyone started social distancing on March 2

Health experts say social-distancing measures have an exponential effect on coronavirus deaths, and relaxing measures too soon could be devastating.

www.businessinsider.com

.......................................................................................................................................................
No one can say with certainty how many lives could have been saved if the Golfer-in-Chief had acted earlier. What we can say is instead of doing so he concentrated on protecting his chances of re-election (while playing golf and holding rallies) by prioritizing the short term economic impact of a shutdown over human lives. He waited too long to act.

Which is why so much time and effort is being expended by the Bigot-in-Chief and his media allies to distort the truth about his inaction. He waited too long to act.

Trumpette's have been conditioned to reflexively bring up Don's China travel restriction. The one that came 10 days after the CDC announced the first US case of the virus, a person who traveled here from China. The one delayed by Don's concern for not upsetting China shortly after a truce in the trade war had been announced. The one that did not include people traveling from Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan. The one that did not include EU countries where a majority of cases in NY came from. The one that allowed nearly 40,000 people coming from China in to the country in the two months after Trump imposed restrictions. Importantly, screening proceedings of travelers from China have been uneven and inconsistent. That "travel ban." The one predicted to be ineffective.
“All of the evidence we have indicates that travel restrictions and quarantines directed at individual countries are unlikely to keep the virus out of our borders,” said Jennifer Nuzzo, associate professor and senior scholar at Johns Hopkins University’s Center for Health Security, at a congressional hearing Feb. 5."

Taking action far too late to be effective has caused the Trump admin to seek to deflect blame for the outbreak here.

They tried to get us to believe......at different times..........the fault for the botched response lies with China, Obama, Pelosi, the CDC, De Blasio, the WHO, the governors, because the Denier-in-Chief takes responsibility for nothing..........and credit for everything. There is a grain of truth in some of those accusations. But the bottom line is only one person had the information and the authority to make an informed decision that could have saved lives. He didn't. He failed in the first obligation of a POTUS, to keep US citizens safe. He waited too long to act.


Just to get ahead of the curve, Trumpleton responses to this thread will begin with Trump Denial Syndrome post # 173,408.

Put an egg in your shoe and beat it.

 

[berg80]

Apparently the OP is too stupid to know about hindsight being 20/20.

Apparently you are ignorant of the facts.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Trump wasn't enough of a Dictator for you

He wasn't enough of an effective leader who fulfilled his obligation to protect the country. Declaring a national shutdown order was the responsible thing to do. He didn't do it. That what failure looks like.

He doesn't have the power to open the country but he has the power to close it?

 

[Leweman]

90 percent of actual deaths by Covid or the deaths counted as deaths by Covid?

 

[joaquinmiller]

Apparently the OP is too stupid to know about hindsight being 20/20.

“I've always known this is a — this is a real — this is a pandemic. I’ve felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic. All you had to do is look at other countries. ... No, I've always viewed it as very serious.” - Trump, 3/23/2020

Someone who knew it was a pandemic would have exercised foresight - eliminating the need to whine about hindsight.

 

[Maxdeath]

Wow amazing how great 20/20 hindsight is. Just simply amazing.
Funny how you don't want to ding Pelozi fro walking hand in hand down the streets of Chinatown wanting others to come join her. Funny how you overlook New York City mayor riding on a subway saying it was safe. Then dropping the number of cars so more were packed in together. But can't blame them, they have a D.

Funny that you completely forget that Trump followed his medical advisors directions even to the social distancing.
But it is all him.

And just what have the democrats done during this crisis to help? Biden talked about Trump being xenophobic. Pelosi held up the CARES in an attempt to get more pork and green deals.
They are holding up the help for small business. In other words they have done nothing of any import.

It's amazing how you Trumpists have a mental (pardon the expression) block prohibiting you from remembering Trump saying cases were going down, not up, and would soon be very close to zero, after Pelosi's walk through Chinatown. Are you thinking Pelosi had inside info that Trump didn't? Or perhaps you expect her to act more rationally than he? Can't blame you there.

Funny how the cult of dementia tends to forget that when he said that the cases were on a mostly flat line at the time. It was not until later that it began to sky rocket.
Not my fault that you can't hold your own party as accountable as you want to hold the other.