One Term Donnie

[LA RAM FAN]

The problem here is simply double standards. Folks refuse to see how stupid they are being, they refuse to see through the lies, propaganda and fog of war.

Folks in America think that if you are from an intelligence agency of the West, Russia, or China, then you are legitimate.

OTH, if you are from an intelligence agency from a second world nation trying to defend your nation using asymmetrical warfare? Well, then, you don't get to dictate the terms of international law. The powerful get to call anyone they want a terrorist, yet, their own folks are "intelligence assets."

Why are the CIA and FSB not terrorist organizations, yet the Quds force is? Simple, double standards based on political goals only. Anything that the Quds has done, Mossad, FSB, MI6, and the CIA have done tenfold.

Only the dumb and blind that cannot parse out the goals of propaganda, and do not see what is obvious.

So you admit the Quds are working covertly to run interference on behalf of Iran for Iranian interests. The only difference is they are our enemy.

Don’t tell gipper though, he doesn’t think they were doing anything against the US or had the ability hurt America.

Of course I admit as much.

Only a fool wouldn't.

Your problem is being a victim of propaganda. There ARE NO ENEMIES. Just conflicting interests. In WWI, who were the bad guys?

America and Britain have been messing with Iran for over a hundred years. What Iran is doing is called self-defense, duh.

America has a similar policy. . . The Monroe Doctrine I believe. Anytime any nation outside the Western hemisphere starts meddling in this area of the globe? We take exception to it, as threat to our national identity, sovereignty and freedom. We will make them feel pain if we can. The CIA is quite expert at it. We even influence national politics in several nations now. A lot of those nations are our client states.

What makes those folks in Iran less deserving of the same respect Americans have?

Is it because they are sitting on our oil? Or maybe they are not a part of the international banking cabal? Or maybe because you don't like their religion? What makes them not deserving of being left alone? What makes them "your enemy."

In Brazen Act Of Aggression, Iran Deploys Its Country Right Next To Our Aircraft Carrier
In Brazen Act Of Aggression, Iran Deploys Its Country Right Next To Our Aircraft Carrier

"It is clear that Iran wants war," said National Security Advisor John Bolton. "Our carrier strike group was just off on a pleasure cruise on the other side of the world, and Iran insisted on placing its country right next to it."

"We will not stand for this kind of saber-rattling," he said.

Bolton says the U.S. tried to use diplomacy. He stated that a diplomat was sent to Iran to ask nicely if they would consider moving their country away from our military forces and hundreds of bases around the world. Iran then claimed they couldn't find any space on the globe that was a safe distance from the U.S. military.. . . "

I’m all for leaving Iran to themselves. However they are the ones funding terrorism and attacking our troops. We haven’t set foot inside Iran nor harmed their troops. They are the belligerent ones. No stupid map depicting only American bases, while ignoring where Iranian and terrorists are, is going to change that.

This isn’t Iran vs America. This is the people of Iran AND AMERICA vs. the deep state controlled Iranian government. The media is showing only the Muslims who are pissed at America but they aren’t showing all the people who overwhelmingly support America on this. We just killed a guy who’s been causing chaos and destruction and murder and rape and anything else you can imagine and we just helped free them from this.

Look, nobody wants to be over there. None of us want this. But the deep state has controlled Iran for decades now and many other countries in the Middle East and they’ve created a monster, and the only way to stop it is to fix what they fucked up. We could easily just pack up and go home but then we would be leaving a ton of innocent people to fend for themselves as more barbaric leaders spring up and occupy the area and continue to make these people’s lives miserable. We have a duty to clean up what we (really the deep state) caused over there these last 15 years. It’s the least we can do for the hell they’ve been put through because of it.

comedy gold,evade mode from paulie as always.

I bet Paulie thinks Israel is a victem,that they are not warmongers as well.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The problem here is simply double standards. Folks refuse to see how stupid they are being, they refuse to see through the lies, propaganda and fog of war.

Folks in America think that if you are from an intelligence agency of the West, Russia, or China, then you are legitimate.

OTH, if you are from an intelligence agency from a second world nation trying to defend your nation using asymmetrical warfare? Well, then, you don't get to dictate the terms of international law. The powerful get to call anyone they want a terrorist, yet, their own folks are "intelligence assets."

Why are the CIA and FSB not terrorist organizations, yet the Quds force is? Simple, double standards based on political goals only. Anything that the Quds has done, Mossad, FSB, MI6, and the CIA have done tenfold.

Only the dumb and blind that cannot parse out the goals of propaganda, and do not see what is obvious.

So you admit the Quds are working covertly to run interference on behalf of Iran for Iranian interests. The only difference is they are our enemy.

Don’t tell gipper though, he doesn’t think they were doing anything against the US or had the ability hurt America.

Of course I admit as much.

Only a fool wouldn't.

Your problem is being a victim of propaganda. There ARE NO ENEMIES. Just conflicting interests. In WWI, who were the bad guys?

America and Britain have been messing with Iran for over a hundred years. What Iran is doing is called self-defense, duh.

America has a similar policy. . . The Monroe Doctrine I believe. Anytime any nation outside the Western hemisphere starts meddling in this area of the globe? We take exception to it, as threat to our national identity, sovereignty and freedom. We will make them feel pain if we can. The CIA is quite expert at it. We even influence national politics in several nations now. A lot of those nations are our client states.

What makes those folks in Iran less deserving of the same respect Americans have?

Is it because they are sitting on our oil? Or maybe they are not a part of the international banking cabal? Or maybe because you don't like their religion? What makes them not deserving of being left alone? What makes them "your enemy."

In Brazen Act Of Aggression, Iran Deploys Its Country Right Next To Our Aircraft Carrier
In Brazen Act Of Aggression, Iran Deploys Its Country Right Next To Our Aircraft Carrier

"It is clear that Iran wants war," said National Security Advisor John Bolton. "Our carrier strike group was just off on a pleasure cruise on the other side of the world, and Iran insisted on placing its country right next to it."

"We will not stand for this kind of saber-rattling," he said.

Bolton says the U.S. tried to use diplomacy. He stated that a diplomat was sent to Iran to ask nicely if they would consider moving their country away from our military forces and hundreds of bases around the world. Iran then claimed they couldn't find any space on the globe that was a safe distance from the U.S. military.. . . "

I’m all for leaving Iran to themselves. However they are the ones funding terrorism and attacking our troops. We haven’t set foot inside Iran nor harmed their troops. They are the belligerent ones. No stupid map depicting only American bases, while ignoring where Iranian and terrorists are, is going to change that.

WHY?

Why are they doing like our CIA? Why are they clandestinely supporting interests that support their goals?

Why do they train groups that will kill American troops that are occupying nations, which will not allow political solutions which are not in the political interests of the U.S., Israel, Saudi Arabia or it's Western Allies?

WHY?

Should these various nations peoples be allowed to have sovereignty? We have sovereignty. Canada does. We allow European nations to have sovereignty. Why not let these people chart their own course?

Why do we have to meddle with, and defy the will of the people of these various middle eastern nations?

Don't you think that it is immoral that we need to promote war in order to get our way. . . policy wise?

For me, a picture tells a thousand words, and this is NOT the picture of success. . .

This is the work of the US, NOT Iran.

All Iran is trying to do, is counter the malign influence of the US in IT'S backyard.

If all these disasters were the cause of Iran? You might have me convinced otherwise. I know that Iran supports asymmetrical warfare and terrorists, I am not naive. But would they be doing this if the US were not so involved with a heavy hand?

I do not think so.


. . . and if they did? Why not just let the UN do what it was meant to?

this logic and common sense of pesky facts does not seem to be registering with the trump dupes.

 

[jc456]

The problem here is simply double standards. Folks refuse to see how stupid they are being, they refuse to see through the lies, propaganda and fog of war.

Folks in America think that if you are from an intelligence agency of the West, Russia, or China, then you are legitimate.

OTH, if you are from an intelligence agency from a second world nation trying to defend your nation using asymmetrical warfare? Well, then, you don't get to dictate the terms of international law. The powerful get to call anyone they want a terrorist, yet, their own folks are "intelligence assets."

Why are the CIA and FSB not terrorist organizations, yet the Quds force is? Simple, double standards based on political goals only. Anything that the Quds has done, Mossad, FSB, MI6, and the CIA have done tenfold.

Only the dumb and blind that cannot parse out the goals of propaganda, and do not see what is obvious.

So you admit the Quds are working covertly to run interference on behalf of Iran for Iranian interests. The only difference is they are our enemy.

Don’t tell gipper though, he doesn’t think they were doing anything against the US or had the ability hurt America.

Of course I admit as much.

Only a fool wouldn't.

Your problem is being a victim of propaganda. There ARE NO ENEMIES. Just conflicting interests. In WWI, who were the bad guys?

America and Britain have been messing with Iran for over a hundred years. What Iran is doing is called self-defense, duh.

America has a similar policy. . . The Monroe Doctrine I believe. Anytime any nation outside the Western hemisphere starts meddling in this area of the globe? We take exception to it, as threat to our national identity, sovereignty and freedom. We will make them feel pain if we can. The CIA is quite expert at it. We even influence national politics in several nations now. A lot of those nations are our client states.

What makes those folks in Iran less deserving of the same respect Americans have?

Is it because they are sitting on our oil? Or maybe they are not a part of the international banking cabal? Or maybe because you don't like their religion? What makes them not deserving of being left alone? What makes them "your enemy."

In Brazen Act Of Aggression, Iran Deploys Its Country Right Next To Our Aircraft Carrier
In Brazen Act Of Aggression, Iran Deploys Its Country Right Next To Our Aircraft Carrier

"It is clear that Iran wants war," said National Security Advisor John Bolton. "Our carrier strike group was just off on a pleasure cruise on the other side of the world, and Iran insisted on placing its country right next to it."

"We will not stand for this kind of saber-rattling," he said.

Bolton says the U.S. tried to use diplomacy. He stated that a diplomat was sent to Iran to ask nicely if they would consider moving their country away from our military forces and hundreds of bases around the world. Iran then claimed they couldn't find any space on the globe that was a safe distance from the U.S. military.. . . "

I’m all for leaving Iran to themselves. However they are the ones funding terrorism and attacking our troops. We haven’t set foot inside Iran nor harmed their troops. They are the belligerent ones. No stupid map depicting only American bases, while ignoring where Iranian and terrorists are, is going to change that.

This isn’t Iran vs America. This is the people of Iran AND AMERICA vs. the deep state controlled Iranian government. The media is showing only the Muslims who are pissed at America but they aren’t showing all the people who overwhelmingly support America on this. We just killed a guy who’s been causing chaos and destruction and murder and rape and anything else you can imagine and we just helped free them from this.

Look, nobody wants to be over there. None of us want this. But the deep state has controlled Iran for decades now and many other countries in the Middle East and they’ve created a monster, and the only way to stop it is to fix what they fucked up. We could easily just pack up and go home but then we would be leaving a ton of innocent people to fend for themselves as more barbaric leaders spring up and occupy the area and continue to make these people’s lives miserable. We have a duty to clean up what we (really the deep state) caused over there these last 15 years. It’s the least we can do for the hell they’ve been put through because of it.

comedy gold,evade mode from paulie as always.

I bet Paulie thinks Israel is a victem,that they are not warmongers as well.

so you're saying the Jews weren't in concentration camps and killed? just wondering.

 

[jc456]

The problem here is simply double standards. Folks refuse to see how stupid they are being, they refuse to see through the lies, propaganda and fog of war.

Folks in America think that if you are from an intelligence agency of the West, Russia, or China, then you are legitimate.

OTH, if you are from an intelligence agency from a second world nation trying to defend your nation using asymmetrical warfare? Well, then, you don't get to dictate the terms of international law. The powerful get to call anyone they want a terrorist, yet, their own folks are "intelligence assets."

Why are the CIA and FSB not terrorist organizations, yet the Quds force is? Simple, double standards based on political goals only. Anything that the Quds has done, Mossad, FSB, MI6, and the CIA have done tenfold.

Only the dumb and blind that cannot parse out the goals of propaganda, and do not see what is obvious.

So you admit the Quds are working covertly to run interference on behalf of Iran for Iranian interests. The only difference is they are our enemy.

Don’t tell gipper though, he doesn’t think they were doing anything against the US or had the ability hurt America.

Of course I admit as much.

Only a fool wouldn't.

Your problem is being a victim of propaganda. There ARE NO ENEMIES. Just conflicting interests. In WWI, who were the bad guys?

America and Britain have been messing with Iran for over a hundred years. What Iran is doing is called self-defense, duh.

America has a similar policy. . . The Monroe Doctrine I believe. Anytime any nation outside the Western hemisphere starts meddling in this area of the globe? We take exception to it, as threat to our national identity, sovereignty and freedom. We will make them feel pain if we can. The CIA is quite expert at it. We even influence national politics in several nations now. A lot of those nations are our client states.

What makes those folks in Iran less deserving of the same respect Americans have?

Is it because they are sitting on our oil? Or maybe they are not a part of the international banking cabal? Or maybe because you don't like their religion? What makes them not deserving of being left alone? What makes them "your enemy."

In Brazen Act Of Aggression, Iran Deploys Its Country Right Next To Our Aircraft Carrier
In Brazen Act Of Aggression, Iran Deploys Its Country Right Next To Our Aircraft Carrier

"It is clear that Iran wants war," said National Security Advisor John Bolton. "Our carrier strike group was just off on a pleasure cruise on the other side of the world, and Iran insisted on placing its country right next to it."

"We will not stand for this kind of saber-rattling," he said.

Bolton says the U.S. tried to use diplomacy. He stated that a diplomat was sent to Iran to ask nicely if they would consider moving their country away from our military forces and hundreds of bases around the world. Iran then claimed they couldn't find any space on the globe that was a safe distance from the U.S. military.. . . "

I’m all for leaving Iran to themselves. However they are the ones funding terrorism and attacking our troops. We haven’t set foot inside Iran nor harmed their troops. They are the belligerent ones. No stupid map depicting only American bases, while ignoring where Iranian and terrorists are, is going to change that.

WHY?

Why are they doing like our CIA? Why are they clandestinely supporting interests that support their goals?

Why do they train groups that will kill American troops that are occupying nations, which will not allow political solutions which are not in the political interests of the U.S., Israel, Saudi Arabia or it's Western Allies?

WHY?

Should these various nations peoples be allowed to have sovereignty? We have sovereignty. Canada does. We allow European nations to have sovereignty. Why not let these people chart their own course?

Why do we have to meddle with, and defy the will of the people of these various middle eastern nations?

Don't you think that it is immoral that we need to promote war in order to get our way. . . policy wise?

For me, a picture tells a thousand words, and this is NOT the picture of success. . .

This is the work of the US, NOT Iran.

All Iran is trying to do, is counter the malign influence of the US in IT'S backyard.

If all these disasters were the cause of Iran? You might have me convinced otherwise. I know that Iran supports asymmetrical warfare and terrorists, I am not naive. But would they be doing this if the US were not so involved with a heavy hand?

I do not think so.


. . . and if they did? Why not just let the UN do what it was meant to?

This is the work of the US, NOT Iran

Based on what? what evidence do you have that shows that was the US? please, inspire us all on your Iran Education!!!

 

[LA RAM FAN]

You do realize the general you seem to respect is responsible for the cowardly killing of hundreds of American?

LOL. You don’t know WTF you are talking about. please get informed.


The US Government Lies Constantly, And The Burden Of Proof Is On The Accuser
The US Government Lies Constantly, And The Burden Of Proof Is On The Accuser

In reality there’s no evidence for any of the reasons we’ve been offered for why Iran needed to be provoked into an almost inevitable retaliation that Trump is currently tweeting will result in all-out war:

• The claim that Soleimani posed an “imminent threat” is completely without evidence, rumored to be “razor thin“, and entirely debunked in this excellent essay by Craig Murray.
• Mike Pence’s claim that Soleimani assisted 9/11 terrorists is so ridiculous that even the war-loving Washington Post dismissed it.
• There’s no proof that Soleimani directed the strike that allegedly killed a US contractor, or that that contractor even existed.
• There’s no proof that Soleimani was involved in any “attack” on any US embassy, leaving aside the obvious fact that a little graffiti on the walls wouldn’t justify his assassination if he did.
• The “hundreds of American deaths” line you hear regurgitated by everyone from Trump to Elizabeth Warren actually refers to Iraqis defending themselves from an illegal US invasion with some training from Iran. The claim that Iran was behind Iraqi bombs is withoutevidence and wouldn’t matter if it were true; claiming the inhabitants of an invaded nation don’t have the right to defend themselves is absurd, regardless of where they got their weaponry.
• The claim that Soleimani was “a terrorist” is only made because the branch of the Iranian military he commanded was arbitrarily designated a terrorist organization by the US government last year, a designation that any foreign government could just as easily make for any branch of the US military. He was actually a fearsome enemy of ISIS and al-Qaeda and played a massive role in halting the spread of ISIS.

Trump has really turned this country into a shit show. No one is ever on the same page and no one can tell the truth.

well thats what happens EVERYTIME you get a servant of the bankers and CIA in office,one part of the corrupt two party system that is really a ONE PARTY SYSTEM disguised as two so the sheep think they have a choice in who gets elected and they have a chance to change things.

 

[jc456]

The problem here is simply double standards. Folks refuse to see how stupid they are being, they refuse to see through the lies, propaganda and fog of war.

Folks in America think that if you are from an intelligence agency of the West, Russia, or China, then you are legitimate.

OTH, if you are from an intelligence agency from a second world nation trying to defend your nation using asymmetrical warfare? Well, then, you don't get to dictate the terms of international law. The powerful get to call anyone they want a terrorist, yet, their own folks are "intelligence assets."

Why are the CIA and FSB not terrorist organizations, yet the Quds force is? Simple, double standards based on political goals only. Anything that the Quds has done, Mossad, FSB, MI6, and the CIA have done tenfold.

Only the dumb and blind that cannot parse out the goals of propaganda, and do not see what is obvious.

So you admit the Quds are working covertly to run interference on behalf of Iran for Iranian interests. The only difference is they are our enemy.

Don’t tell gipper though, he doesn’t think they were doing anything against the US or had the ability hurt America.

Of course I admit as much.

Only a fool wouldn't.

Your problem is being a victim of propaganda. There ARE NO ENEMIES. Just conflicting interests. In WWI, who were the bad guys?

America and Britain have been messing with Iran for over a hundred years. What Iran is doing is called self-defense, duh.

America has a similar policy. . . The Monroe Doctrine I believe. Anytime any nation outside the Western hemisphere starts meddling in this area of the globe? We take exception to it, as threat to our national identity, sovereignty and freedom. We will make them feel pain if we can. The CIA is quite expert at it. We even influence national politics in several nations now. A lot of those nations are our client states.

What makes those folks in Iran less deserving of the same respect Americans have?

Is it because they are sitting on our oil? Or maybe they are not a part of the international banking cabal? Or maybe because you don't like their religion? What makes them not deserving of being left alone? What makes them "your enemy."

In Brazen Act Of Aggression, Iran Deploys Its Country Right Next To Our Aircraft Carrier
In Brazen Act Of Aggression, Iran Deploys Its Country Right Next To Our Aircraft Carrier

"It is clear that Iran wants war," said National Security Advisor John Bolton. "Our carrier strike group was just off on a pleasure cruise on the other side of the world, and Iran insisted on placing its country right next to it."

"We will not stand for this kind of saber-rattling," he said.

Bolton says the U.S. tried to use diplomacy. He stated that a diplomat was sent to Iran to ask nicely if they would consider moving their country away from our military forces and hundreds of bases around the world. Iran then claimed they couldn't find any space on the globe that was a safe distance from the U.S. military.. . . "

I’m all for leaving Iran to themselves. However they are the ones funding terrorism and attacking our troops. We haven’t set foot inside Iran nor harmed their troops. They are the belligerent ones. No stupid map depicting only American bases, while ignoring where Iranian and terrorists are, is going to change that.

WHY?

Why are they doing like our CIA? Why are they clandestinely supporting interests that support their goals?

Why do they train groups that will kill American troops that are occupying nations, which will not allow political solutions which are not in the political interests of the U.S., Israel, Saudi Arabia or it's Western Allies?

WHY?

Should these various nations peoples be allowed to have sovereignty? We have sovereignty. Canada does. We allow European nations to have sovereignty. Why not let these people chart their own course?

Why do we have to meddle with, and defy the will of the people of these various middle eastern nations?

Don't you think that it is immoral that we need to promote war in order to get our way. . . policy wise?

For me, a picture tells a thousand words, and this is NOT the picture of success. . .

This is the work of the US, NOT Iran.

All Iran is trying to do, is counter the malign influence of the US in IT'S backyard.

If all these disasters were the cause of Iran? You might have me convinced otherwise. I know that Iran supports asymmetrical warfare and terrorists, I am not naive. But would they be doing this if the US were not so involved with a heavy hand?

I do not think so.


. . . and if they did? Why not just let the UN do what it was meant to?

this logic and common sense of pesky facts does not seem to be registering with the trump dupes.

an anti american with no evidence. how sweet.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

So you admit the Quds are working covertly to run interference on behalf of Iran for Iranian interests. The only difference is they are our enemy.

Don’t tell gipper though, he doesn’t think they were doing anything against the US or had the ability hurt America.

Of course I admit as much.

Only a fool wouldn't.

Your problem is being a victim of propaganda. There ARE NO ENEMIES. Just conflicting interests. In WWI, who were the bad guys?

America and Britain have been messing with Iran for over a hundred years. What Iran is doing is called self-defense, duh.

America has a similar policy. . . The Monroe Doctrine I believe. Anytime any nation outside the Western hemisphere starts meddling in this area of the globe? We take exception to it, as threat to our national identity, sovereignty and freedom. We will make them feel pain if we can. The CIA is quite expert at it. We even influence national politics in several nations now. A lot of those nations are our client states.

What makes those folks in Iran less deserving of the same respect Americans have?

Is it because they are sitting on our oil? Or maybe they are not a part of the international banking cabal? Or maybe because you don't like their religion? What makes them not deserving of being left alone? What makes them "your enemy."

In Brazen Act Of Aggression, Iran Deploys Its Country Right Next To Our Aircraft Carrier
In Brazen Act Of Aggression, Iran Deploys Its Country Right Next To Our Aircraft Carrier

"It is clear that Iran wants war," said National Security Advisor John Bolton. "Our carrier strike group was just off on a pleasure cruise on the other side of the world, and Iran insisted on placing its country right next to it."

"We will not stand for this kind of saber-rattling," he said.

Bolton says the U.S. tried to use diplomacy. He stated that a diplomat was sent to Iran to ask nicely if they would consider moving their country away from our military forces and hundreds of bases around the world. Iran then claimed they couldn't find any space on the globe that was a safe distance from the U.S. military.. . . "

I’m all for leaving Iran to themselves. However they are the ones funding terrorism and attacking our troops. We haven’t set foot inside Iran nor harmed their troops. They are the belligerent ones. No stupid map depicting only American bases, while ignoring where Iranian and terrorists are, is going to change that.

WHY?

Why are they doing like our CIA? Why are they clandestinely supporting interests that support their goals?

Why do they train groups that will kill American troops that are occupying nations, which will not allow political solutions which are not in the political interests of the U.S., Israel, Saudi Arabia or it's Western Allies?

WHY?

Should these various nations peoples be allowed to have sovereignty? We have sovereignty. Canada does. We allow European nations to have sovereignty. Why not let these people chart their own course?

Why do we have to meddle with, and defy the will of the people of these various middle eastern nations?

Don't you think that it is immoral that we need to promote war in order to get our way. . . policy wise?

For me, a picture tells a thousand words, and this is NOT the picture of success. . .

This is the work of the US, NOT Iran.

All Iran is trying to do, is counter the malign influence of the US in IT'S backyard.

If all these disasters were the cause of Iran? You might have me convinced otherwise. I know that Iran supports asymmetrical warfare and terrorists, I am not naive. But would they be doing this if the US were not so involved with a heavy hand?

I do not think so.


. . . and if they did? Why not just let the UN do what it was meant to?

this logic and common sense of pesky facts does not seem to be registering with the trump dupes.

an anti american with no evidence. how sweet.

that is indeed you for sure stupid ass troll.

 

[jc456]

Of course I admit as much.

Only a fool wouldn't.

Your problem is being a victim of propaganda. There ARE NO ENEMIES. Just conflicting interests. In WWI, who were the bad guys?

America and Britain have been messing with Iran for over a hundred years. What Iran is doing is called self-defense, duh.

America has a similar policy. . . The Monroe Doctrine I believe. Anytime any nation outside the Western hemisphere starts meddling in this area of the globe? We take exception to it, as threat to our national identity, sovereignty and freedom. We will make them feel pain if we can. The CIA is quite expert at it. We even influence national politics in several nations now. A lot of those nations are our client states.

What makes those folks in Iran less deserving of the same respect Americans have?

Is it because they are sitting on our oil? Or maybe they are not a part of the international banking cabal? Or maybe because you don't like their religion? What makes them not deserving of being left alone? What makes them "your enemy."

In Brazen Act Of Aggression, Iran Deploys Its Country Right Next To Our Aircraft Carrier
In Brazen Act Of Aggression, Iran Deploys Its Country Right Next To Our Aircraft Carrier

"It is clear that Iran wants war," said National Security Advisor John Bolton. "Our carrier strike group was just off on a pleasure cruise on the other side of the world, and Iran insisted on placing its country right next to it."

"We will not stand for this kind of saber-rattling," he said.

Bolton says the U.S. tried to use diplomacy. He stated that a diplomat was sent to Iran to ask nicely if they would consider moving their country away from our military forces and hundreds of bases around the world. Iran then claimed they couldn't find any space on the globe that was a safe distance from the U.S. military.. . . "

I’m all for leaving Iran to themselves. However they are the ones funding terrorism and attacking our troops. We haven’t set foot inside Iran nor harmed their troops. They are the belligerent ones. No stupid map depicting only American bases, while ignoring where Iranian and terrorists are, is going to change that.

WHY?

Why are they doing like our CIA? Why are they clandestinely supporting interests that support their goals?

Why do they train groups that will kill American troops that are occupying nations, which will not allow political solutions which are not in the political interests of the U.S., Israel, Saudi Arabia or it's Western Allies?

WHY?

Should these various nations peoples be allowed to have sovereignty? We have sovereignty. Canada does. We allow European nations to have sovereignty. Why not let these people chart their own course?

Why do we have to meddle with, and defy the will of the people of these various middle eastern nations?

Don't you think that it is immoral that we need to promote war in order to get our way. . . policy wise?

For me, a picture tells a thousand words, and this is NOT the picture of success. . .

This is the work of the US, NOT Iran.

All Iran is trying to do, is counter the malign influence of the US in IT'S backyard.

If all these disasters were the cause of Iran? You might have me convinced otherwise. I know that Iran supports asymmetrical warfare and terrorists, I am not naive. But would they be doing this if the US were not so involved with a heavy hand?

I do not think so.


. . . and if they did? Why not just let the UN do what it was meant to?

this logic and common sense of pesky facts does not seem to be registering with the trump dupes.

an anti american with no evidence. how sweet.

that is indeed you for sure stupid ass troll.

I didn't see evidence the US did anything. show me which piece is ours? cause there wasn't shit there. so please, enlighten the class anti american!!

 

[theHawk]

You do realize the general you seem to respect is responsible for the cowardly killing of hundreds of American?

LOL. You don’t know WTF you are talking about. please get informed.


The US Government Lies Constantly, And The Burden Of Proof Is On The Accuser
The US Government Lies Constantly, And The Burden Of Proof Is On The Accuser

In reality there’s no evidence for any of the reasons we’ve been offered for why Iran needed to be provoked into an almost inevitable retaliation that Trump is currently tweeting will result in all-out war:

• The claim that Soleimani posed an “imminent threat” is completely without evidence, rumored to be “razor thin“, and entirely debunked in this excellent essay by Craig Murray.
• Mike Pence’s claim that Soleimani assisted 9/11 terrorists is so ridiculous that even the war-loving Washington Post dismissed it.
• There’s no proof that Soleimani directed the strike that allegedly killed a US contractor, or that that contractor even existed.
• There’s no proof that Soleimani was involved in any “attack” on any US embassy, leaving aside the obvious fact that a little graffiti on the walls wouldn’t justify his assassination if he did.
• The “hundreds of American deaths” line you hear regurgitated by everyone from Trump to Elizabeth Warren actually refers to Iraqis defending themselves from an illegal US invasion with some training from Iran. The claim that Iran was behind Iraqi bombs is withoutevidence and wouldn’t matter if it were true; claiming the inhabitants of an invaded nation don’t have the right to defend themselves is absurd, regardless of where they got their weaponry.
• The claim that Soleimani was “a terrorist” is only made because the branch of the Iranian military he commanded was arbitrarily designated a terrorist organization by the US government last year, a designation that any foreign government could just as easily make for any branch of the US military. He was actually a fearsome enemy of ISIS and al-Qaeda and played a massive role in halting the spread of ISIS.

Trump has really turned this country into a shit show. No one is ever on the same page and no one can tell the truth.

well thats what happens EVERYTIME you get a servant of the bankers and CIA in office,one part of the corrupt two party system that is really a ONE PARTY SYSTEM disguised as two so the sheep think they have a choice in who gets elected and they have a chance to change things.

Are you really still trying to argue that President Trump is part of this? He’s the one true outsider trying to stop the globalist-neocon Agenda. They tried to get him to go to war against North Korea, Syria, and Iran. He refused. Then suddenly they conjured up some trumped up charges in order to impeach him. Do you idiots honestly believe that if he is removed from office we won’t be at war with Iran and Syria within a year?

 

[Ken Mac]

An attack may be deemed “imminent”, according to the Bethlehem Doctrine, even if you know no details of it or when it might occur. So you may be assassinated by a drone or bomb strike – and the doctrine was specifically developed to justify such strikes – because of “intelligence” you are engaged in a plot, when that intelligence neither says what the plot is nor when it might occur. Or even more tenuous, because there is intelligence you have engaged in a plot before, so it is reasonable to kill you in case you do so again.

Lies, the Bethlehem Doctrine, and the Illegal Murder of Soleimani - Craig Murray

He's been killing and plotting to kill Americans, for decades.
Fuck 'em.

That is complete bullshit, propaganda, and there is no proof of that.

In fact, all evidence is to the contrary. If you had a clue about the history of this guy, he is the moderate voice in Iran, has worked clandestinely with the U.S. before, and has always been patient in trying to get things done w/o blood shed.

Point of fact, the reason the US and Israelis knew his whereabouts? He was on a PEACE MISSION, trying to end the conflict between Yemen and Saudi Arabia. I know the War profiteers would have hated that. . .

Soleimani Was in Iraq on Peace Mission When US Assassinated Him, Trump Lied About “Imminent Attacks” – USSA News | The Tea Party's Front Page

Soleimani Was in Iraq on Peace Mission When US Assassinated Him, Trump Lied About "Imminent Attacks"

What drives the U.S. nuts, is he is better at asymmetrical warfare. To think the Iranians are going to stop, or that he didn't train his commanders in this type of warfare? Complete insanity.

Just because you label someone a "terrorist" does not make them one.

An interesting proposal, Mr. B., I just wish you had something more substantial for me to believe other than one fringe news source which sites reference to numerous sources yet does not link us to any of them other than one other fringe news site which seems to circuitously be the source for the first.

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The Trump administration claimed Iranian general Qasem Soleimani was planning “imminent attacks” on US interests when it assassinated him. That lie was just destroyed, but not before countless corporate media outlets transmitted it to the public.
Iraqi PM reveals Soleimani was on peace mission when assassinated, exploding Trump’s lie of ‘imminent attacks’
By Max Blumenthal

If you refuse to believe the truth now? You are just suffering from some major cognitive distress that refuses to let you see truth.

This is a source that Rush Limbaugh often uses;

Soleimani Was In Baghdad On Peace Mission To De-Escalate With Saudis: Report

by Tyler Durden
Mon, 01/06/2020 - 18:05
Soleimani Was In Baghdad On Peace Mission To De-Escalate With Saudis: Report

How about Ron Paul, he a liar too?

Iraqi PM reveals Soleimani was on peace mission when assassinated, exploding Trump’s lie of ‘imminent attacks’
Iraqi PM reveals Soleimani was on peace mission when assassinated, exploding Trump’s lie of ‘imminent attacks’

Pompeo laughed at the assertion he was on a "Peace Mission". I laughed too! All Iranian propaganda. Of course he was on a peace mission, in his mind killing all americans will breakout peace everywhere (as he kills and supports terrorists groups - Ask Syrians, Libyans and Yemen's how they feel about the asshole). Death to Americans and all that.

Good lord you are an idiot.

Or just woefully under, mis, or dis-informed by corporate and government media. You don't have a clue what is going on.

That isn't IRANIAN propaganda. That is from the PM of Iraq, who was, ostensibly, before that vote, OUR ALLY.

Iraqi journalist on the ground, translating in ENGLISH FOR YOU;
Mustafa Salim on Twitter

IOW, it would be like the Canadians or British or Saudi's saying. . . uh, yeah, we arranged a peace conference, and uh, the American's and Israeli's decided to assassinate our prime negotiator in the conflict on the other side.

This is the type of barbarism that was engaged in in the dark ages and the middle ages. It is a very Mafia type thing to do. I guess we all shouldn't be surprised given Trump's history with the Mob.

More of this shit. You don't think that guy has ANY interest in ensuring that he doesn't run over IRAN? He's scared shitless of what is going to happen once we get our ass out of IRAQ. He has a HIGH motivation for saying such shit. I sure hope we get out of there soon too. All we keep doing is fucking the middle east up more than it already is fucked up.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

So you admit the Quds are working covertly to run interference on behalf of Iran for Iranian interests. The only difference is they are our enemy.

Don’t tell gipper though, he doesn’t think they were doing anything against the US or had the ability hurt America.

Of course I admit as much.

Only a fool wouldn't.

Your problem is being a victim of propaganda. There ARE NO ENEMIES. Just conflicting interests. In WWI, who were the bad guys?

America and Britain have been messing with Iran for over a hundred years. What Iran is doing is called self-defense, duh.

America has a similar policy. . . The Monroe Doctrine I believe. Anytime any nation outside the Western hemisphere starts meddling in this area of the globe? We take exception to it, as threat to our national identity, sovereignty and freedom. We will make them feel pain if we can. The CIA is quite expert at it. We even influence national politics in several nations now. A lot of those nations are our client states.

What makes those folks in Iran less deserving of the same respect Americans have?

Is it because they are sitting on our oil? Or maybe they are not a part of the international banking cabal? Or maybe because you don't like their religion? What makes them not deserving of being left alone? What makes them "your enemy."

In Brazen Act Of Aggression, Iran Deploys Its Country Right Next To Our Aircraft Carrier
In Brazen Act Of Aggression, Iran Deploys Its Country Right Next To Our Aircraft Carrier

"It is clear that Iran wants war," said National Security Advisor John Bolton. "Our carrier strike group was just off on a pleasure cruise on the other side of the world, and Iran insisted on placing its country right next to it."

"We will not stand for this kind of saber-rattling," he said.

Bolton says the U.S. tried to use diplomacy. He stated that a diplomat was sent to Iran to ask nicely if they would consider moving their country away from our military forces and hundreds of bases around the world. Iran then claimed they couldn't find any space on the globe that was a safe distance from the U.S. military.. . . "

I’m all for leaving Iran to themselves. However they are the ones funding terrorism and attacking our troops. We haven’t set foot inside Iran nor harmed their troops. They are the belligerent ones. No stupid map depicting only American bases, while ignoring where Iranian and terrorists are, is going to change that.

This isn’t Iran vs America. This is the people of Iran AND AMERICA vs. the deep state controlled Iranian government. The media is showing only the Muslims who are pissed at America but they aren’t showing all the people who overwhelmingly support America on this. We just killed a guy who’s been causing chaos and destruction and murder and rape and anything else you can imagine and we just helped free them from this.

Look, nobody wants to be over there. None of us want this. But the deep state has controlled Iran for decades now and many other countries in the Middle East and they’ve created a monster, and the only way to stop it is to fix what they fucked up. We could easily just pack up and go home but then we would be leaving a ton of innocent people to fend for themselves as more barbaric leaders spring up and occupy the area and continue to make these people’s lives miserable. We have a duty to clean up what we (really the deep state) caused over there these last 15 years. It’s the least we can do for the hell they’ve been put through because of it.

comedy gold,evade mode from paulie as always.

I bet Paulie thinks Israel is a victem,that they are not warmongers as well.

so you're saying the Jews weren't in concentration camps and killed? just wondering.

Never said any of that. however the number of 6 million was highly inflated,wasnt anywhere close in the vicinity whatsoever.

the zionists of Israel just based on what happened to them decades ago have no right going around trying to start wars with other countries shooting palestinian babies and unarmed women in the back of the head like cowards as they always do. if you are not aware of these facts your way too far fucking gone to be reasoned with at this point.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

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The Trump administration claimed Iranian general Qasem Soleimani was planning “imminent attacks” on US interests when it assassinated him. That lie was just destroyed, but not before countless corporate media outlets transmitted it to the public.
Iraqi PM reveals Soleimani was on peace mission when assassinated, exploding Trump’s lie of ‘imminent attacks’
By Max Blumenthal

If you refuse to believe the truth now? You are just suffering from some major cognitive distress that refuses to let you see truth.

This is a source that Rush Limbaugh often uses;

Soleimani Was In Baghdad On Peace Mission To De-Escalate With Saudis: Report

by Tyler Durden
Mon, 01/06/2020 - 18:05
Soleimani Was In Baghdad On Peace Mission To De-Escalate With Saudis: Report

How about Ron Paul, he a liar too?

Iraqi PM reveals Soleimani was on peace mission when assassinated, exploding Trump’s lie of ‘imminent attacks’
Iraqi PM reveals Soleimani was on peace mission when assassinated, exploding Trump’s lie of ‘imminent attacks’

Pompeo laughed at the assertion he was on a "Peace Mission". I laughed too! All Iranian propaganda. Of course he was on a peace mission, in his mind killing all americans will breakout peace everywhere (as he kills and supports terrorists groups - Ask Syrians, Libyans and Yemen's how they feel about the asshole). Death to Americans and all that.

Good lord you are an idiot.

Or just woefully under, mis, or dis-informed by corporate and government media. You don't have a clue what is going on.

That isn't IRANIAN propaganda. That is from the PM of Iraq, who was, ostensibly, before that vote, OUR ALLY.

Iraqi journalist on the ground, translating in ENGLISH FOR YOU;
Mustafa Salim on Twitter

IOW, it would be like the Canadians or British or Saudi's saying. . . uh, yeah, we arranged a peace conference, and uh, the American's and Israeli's decided to assassinate our prime negotiator in the conflict on the other side.

This is the type of barbarism that was engaged in in the dark ages and the middle ages. It is a very Mafia type thing to do. I guess we all shouldn't be surprised given Trump's history with the Mob.

Say what you want, but I'll believe Pompeo over a Sunni. You're having the wool pulled over your eyes. The Sunni's want us out of Iraq so I'm sure he doesn't mind making shit up. No skin off his back. It helps out his cause which is to kick us out of Iraq. You're truly misinformed.

I don't normally call people names and I won't in this case either, but your name calling (IDIOT) "ad hominem" attack shows that either you can't carry on an adult conversation or you have an issue.

WTF! You believe an admitted liar and CIA cock sucker. Are you nuts?

You're right, I should believe a Sunni whom wants us out of Iraq instead.

you are obviously clueless like so many other brainwashed sheep in america how evil the CIA is and how we have the most corrupt government in the world so he is right,the fact you would believe an admitted liar and spook,man you are indeed a nutcase.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Yes, we voted for him because of his anti-war stance. He has kept us out of war so far, even though the moronic left have been claiming he would get us into wars with NK, China, Syria.

Iran has declared war on the US. You think we should just ignore those threats?

we haven't been to war because of trump - we haven't been to war DESPITE trump; but our luck has just run out.

We will only be at war if Iran attacks us.

If they kill a US general, will you be satisfied if Trump incinerates Tehran in retaliation ?

Yes, seeing how our generals aren’t engaged in killing Iranians.

How do you know? An Iranian was just murdered. Maybe a US general directed the cold blooded killing.

Killing millions of innocent defenseless Iranians for the death of one general. Good God you’re fucking crazy.

M
My guess is the CIA will do a nice little false flag in the Persian Gulf. Then you will be so happy to massacre innocent Iranians. Yippee!!!!

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Here's a blast from the past that you might want to remember................

Archduke Ferdinand.

He's the guy who was assassinated in Sarajevo, and that started WWI.

Liberals sure are playing up this WW3 thing.

Tell us, who is going to stand between America and Iran? China? Russia? Because both of them are staying clear of Iran.

Agreed. The only way this will escalate is if we start the bombing and send troops in. Iran won't do shit, they specialize in asymmetric warfare. This is why Trump was so triggered to begin with.

This assassinated generals commanders will just up their game, and the U.S. won't be able to prove shit. It will aggravate Trump to no end.

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If they kill a US general, will you be satisfied if Trump incinerates Tehran in retaliation ?

Yes, seeing how our generals aren’t engaged in killing Iranians.

How do you know? An Iranian was just murdered. Maybe a US general directed the cold blooded killing.

Killing millions of innocent defenseless Iranians for the death of one general. Good God you’re fucking crazy.

An Iranian general in Iraq, who had long been designated a terrorist by the Obama administration and the EU. Or are you trying to argue he didn’t know that fact?

Do you think the US Lying Government labels ALL Iranian generals as terrorists?

They don't really have to, the US governed labled the Iran as a terrorist state. Go look the list up of individuals. It is pretty extensive.

which is the proof in the pudding they are NOT a terrorist state the fact our GOVERNMENT said it to be fact.


are you that clueless about our government that you have no idea that we have the most corrupt government on the planet second only to Israel?.

Believing what our government tells you,thats as idiotic as taking Bill I NEVER HAD SEX WITH THIS WOMAN" Clinton at his word if you are in a car with him and turn around for a second and then your french fries are gone and you ask him if he ate your fries and he comes back and says- No I dont know what happened to your fries but i did not touch them.

think about what you just posted for a second.

 

[toobfreak]

Good God Gipper, get a gripper on yourself. Here again we see a beautiful example of the radical black and white polarized thinking of the cognitive dissonant resorting again to Godwin's Law. Now in a day, we have forgotten who we are dealing with and taken the bad people in all of this and transformed them into the victim somehow while overnight making Trump out to be "Adolf Hitler" because he has done the one thing which might end all of this conflict and hostility instead of keeping it alive another 40 years:

ACTUALLY FLOUT THE OPTION OF REAL WAR in the face of the Iranians at a cost they cannot pay instead of just another tit for tat conflagrating never ending police action that all of the progressive "civilized peace-lovers" of the world so proudly hold dear even as it has lead to almost a half century of unresolved hostility and conflict.

Can anyone here actually just keep their dick in their pocket for 5 minutes first before panicking to see how this all plays out?

Let's not forget who we are dealing with here, the Iranians have:

1. Seized and attacked our embassies.
2. Taken our people prisoner.
3. Conducted suicide bombings.
4. Attacked our military in their bases.
5. Mined the Persian Gulf.
6. Done severe damage to many of our vessels.
7. Sponsored terror organizations all over.
8. Facilitated the 9/11 hijackers.
9. Killed hundreds and hundreds of our diplomats, civilians and especially military.
10. Arrested and detained many of our people without cause or charge sometimes for decades.
11. Attempted to carry out an assassination right in Washington DC.
12. Attacked US interests worldwide.
13. Charged our ships for no apparent cause.
14. Seized our ships for no cause.
15. Carried out surveillance of our bases and airports in preparation to attack Americans.
16. Infiltrated our country with spies.
17. Made specific death threats against our leaders and country.
18. Persistently and stubbornly resisted and violated all efforts to monitor and limit their nuclear development.

And all for what? BECAUSE THEY ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO ABANDON THEIR HOSTILE, PROVOCATIVE HISTORY OF REPRESSION, AGGRESSION AND TERROR, making them too much of a potential threat to just "leave alone" and hope for the best.

Instead, we are diluting this all with conspiracy theories and chomping on our own leg. The VERY BEST THING that Iran could hope for right now as they unify into one cause is exactly what the Left is giving them: attacks on Trump, vilification of America as being the bad guy here, and especially, talk of reigning in Trump's ability to execute military campaigns. The Iranians would like nothing better here than to see America like all western countries pull back in self-doubt and self-imposed impotence yet again, thus reassuring them of our image as a paper tiger unlikely to ever really strike.


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How many military bases does Iran have, that encircle the USA? What sanctions has Iran imposed on the USA that are dramatically harming it’s economy? How many nations has Iran invaded over the last 100 years? How many civilians has and military personnel has Iran murdered in the past 100 years? Has Iran threatened the USA with nuclear annihilation?

Please read Stockman’s column and refute what you can? Please?


How the Donald Assassinated America First - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com
Stated differently, Iran’s extremely modest military capacities are not remotely about an offensive threat to the American homeland. They are overwhelmingly about defending itself in its own neighborhood, where Washington has been intervening and occupying with massive firepower and hostile intent for decades.

I know,everytime i ask these clowns how it is possible that Iran a a threat to the world as the media says it is when they have all these US missile surrounding them, everywhere,how is it possible they are a threat,they always go into insult mode evading the question or change the subject EVERYTIME. they NEVER look at the REAL evidence that Israel is the real threat to the world.

Jesus God, you blind stupid, blockheaded dumbfuck, you have the brain of a turnip. One guy living estranged in a fucking cave with a few of his buddies pulled off the biggest terror strike in history, and you wonder how the country of Iran could be dangerous?

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How do you think steel is made?

You know,. West, I'm getting sick of crackpots who call it a conspiracy theory to believe America was attacked by a known terror organization, with thousands of pages and people and years of documentation all intricately supporting it, then go on in the same breath to claim that the "truth" is that the WTC was taken down by some unlikely, bizarre, obscure, devious plot involving massive planning and preparation to an unthinkably fantastic level that no one detected, there are no first hand witnesses to and no evidence for at all other than a few crank conspiracy websites!

The nation is in real danger when the unwashed masses would rather prefer believing in conspiracies as facts while claiming the facts to be conspiracy theories, not able to tell the one from other then believing it is "brainwashing" to actually take the facts on their face value.

 

[gipper]

How many military bases does Iran have, that encircle the USA? What sanctions has Iran imposed on the USA that are dramatically harming it’s economy? How many nations has Iran invaded over the last 100 years? How many civilians has and military personnel has Iran murdered in the past 100 years? Has Iran threatened the USA with nuclear annihilation?

Please read Stockman’s column and refute what you can? Please?


How the Donald Assassinated America First - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com
Stated differently, Iran’s extremely modest military capacities are not remotely about an offensive threat to the American homeland. They are overwhelmingly about defending itself in its own neighborhood, where Washington has been intervening and occupying with massive firepower and hostile intent for decades.

I know,everytime i ask these clowns how it is possible that Iran a a threat to the world as the media says it is when they have all these US missile surrounding them, everywhere,how is it possible they are a threat,they always go into insult mode evading the question or change the subject EVERYTIME. they NEVER look at the REAL evidence that Israel is the real threat to the world.

Jesus God, you blind stupid, blockheaded dumbfuck, you have the brain of a turnip. One guy living estranged in a fucking cave with a few of his buddies pulled off the biggest terror strike in history, and you wonder how the country of Iran could be dangerous?

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How do you think steel is made?

You know,. West, I'm getting sick of crackpots who call it a conspiracy theory to believe America was attacked by a known terror organization, with thousands of pages and people and years of documentation all intricately supporting it, then go on in the same breath to claim that the "truth" is that the WTC was taken down by some unlikely, bizarre, obscure, devious plot involving massive planning and preparation to an unthinkably fantastic level that no one detected, there are no first hand witnesses to and no evidence for at all other than a few crank conspiracy websites!

The nation is in real danger when the unwashed masses would rather prefer believing in conspiracies as facts while claiming the facts to be conspiracy theories, not able to tell the one from other then believing it is "brainwashing" to actually take the facts on their face value.

All lies. Stop being a dupe for the oligarchs.

 

[toobfreak]

Gripper has it in for America ever since the government forced him off food stamps years ago and made him look for a job, then when he tried to apply with the Postal Service as a letter carrier, they deemed him too unreliable and incompetent.

Retired and living the good life. No doubt my net worth is way more than yours. I’m also exponentially smarter than you.

Only a really dumb statist would believe the government’s 9/11 story. You have my sympathies.

yeah cause on an internet message board everyone is who they say they are right? too fking funny. you lost all credibility you earned over the years. what a fking tool.

BTW, anytime you want to debate, I'm open big guy!!!

we know you have lost all credibiliyt,no need to brag about it.LOL you cant debate,like all cowards that have come on here and attacked him,you cowardly ran off with your tail between your legs when misterbeal took everyone to school the media was lying as they always do on page 6 i think it was where he proved trump was a murderer.a link NOBODY here has been able to counter.

I go nowhere. I stand and fight, ask anyone on here. Gippshits lost

yeah your idea of fighting is posting one liners after evading the evidence.LOL thats been proven throughout the whole thread.LOL

Evidence? Proven? Man, are you in a world of your own or what? All you're good for jackass in posting strings of emoticons while jerking off to your own bullshit.

 

[Paulie]

You made a huge accusation, but offered no proof. Now you refuse to offer proof. Do you fail to see how silly that is?

What I fail to see is how you aren’t capable of seeing that the Iranians are empowered to fight for their freedom from their oppressive regime for the first time in decades. This is what they’ve been waiting for. It’s been well known that those people have been ripe for revolution and that all it would’ve taken was a little assistance on our part to provide them with the security they would need to be able to pull it off, but we never did anything. All we ever did was use that horrible regime as a fear ploy to scare our own citizens into accepting more war. We’re clearly seeing that we don’t need to go to war with Iran, but that instead their own people can revolt and take control of their own country. Turn the corporate news off, it’s rotting your brain so much that you’re literally turning into a liberal right before our eyes on this board. I don’t know if you’re drinking excessive amounts of fluoride laden water or what, but you’ve literally become exactly what you used to rail against and you either don’t even realize it or don’t care. Either way it’s pathetic.

What I see is a government dupe. Don’t be a dupe.

Paulie thinks Iranians are going to become Christian Democrats. . . .

You’re such an idiot. The vast majority of Muslims want to live in peace just like the rest of the vast majority of the world. The NWO was going to usher in a new world religion called Chrislam which was based on Aleister Crowley’s Thelema.. “do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law”. It’s luciferian in principle. They’ve been playing Muslims, jews, and Christians against each other so they could ignite hate to the point of being able to bring in their “solution” to the problem. By freeing people of religious oppression, this agenda dies. And it’s such a shame that you can’t see that because all you see is NWO everywhere. Guess what my friend.. there are only a small fraction of bad people in this world. The overwhelming majority of people do not want religious oppression, war, etc. It only takes 3% of a population to overthrow oppression. We have exponentially more than that in countless counties now. The world is waking up. If you can’t see that then I really don’t know what to tell you.

That statement I would agree with. . .

The fact you cannot see that Trump is working for the global elites? Makes me laugh though.

You still have never explained that Bolivian shit.

Ok so explain to me in your own words how he’s working for the global elites? I don’t want 50 different links and copy pastes images I want your own thoughts on it. Just like I give you mine.

As far as Bolivia, it doesn’t concern me. It was a communist dictatorship aligned with the Madura regime in Venezuela. I don’t have a single problem intervening for the sake of ridding the world of that shit. Communism and socialism have no place in this world. As long as we aren’t sending our troops to die in a senseless war over it I’m fine with doing anything we can to help free people of the horrible oppression of that ideology. People starve and die under that ideology. They don’t have religious freedom. They have to resort to eating pets to survive. I used to be 100% against foreign intervention but that was in previous administrations where it was clear to me we weren’t freeing anyone from anything. I showed you how there’s a real possibility that we got rid of the bad actors in Saudi Arabia and ended the petrodollar agreement. We don’t need their oil anymore and trump is the first president in how long that has allowed domestic production to take place. Your problem is you don’t think outside the box. You search for websites that confirm the bias you already have that he’s NWO and that doesn’t allow you to break the cognitive dissonance. You WANT to believe he’s NWO because for some reason you want to think we’re all just fucked with no way out. I on the other hand spent an untold amount of time researching and fence sitting and questioning everything I was seeing and it took me quite a while to determine that what we’re seeing is something different. Im the furthest thing from your typical trump worshipper who thinks he can do no wrong. In fact it’s been 3 years of his presidency and I’ve only come to be a supporter of him over the last several months. So o have done MORE than my fair share of due diligence on the situation to come to my position on him.

Now again, let’s hear your take on why you think he’s NWO with just your own words and thoughts. If that’s possible for you.

 

[Paulie]

'They Fear Someone Will Go There and Tell the Truth,' Says Iran's Top Diplomat as Trump White House Bars Him From US
"You can speak with American people from Tehran too and we will do that," said Iran's Foreign Minister Javad Zarif.
by
Jake Johnson, staff writer
'They Fear Someone Will Go There and Tell the Truth,' Says Iran's Top Diplomat as Trump White House Bars Him From US

Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council
Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif had sought to give a speech condemning the U.S. assassination of Qassem Suleimani.
Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

"The Trump administration is barring Iran’s top diplomat from entering the United States this week to address the United Nations Security Council about the U.S. assassination of Iran’s top military official in Baghdad, violating the terms of a 1947 headquarters agreement requiring Washington to permit foreign officials into the country to conduct U.N. business, according to three diplomatic sources.

Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif requested a visa a “few weeks ago” to enter the United States to attend a Jan. 9 Security Council meeting on the importance of upholding the U.N. Charter, according to a diplomatic source familiar with the matter. The Thursday meeting was to provide Tehran’s top diplomat with his first opportunity to directly address the world community since U.S. President Donald Trump ordered the Jan. 3 drone strike that killed Maj. Gen. Qassem Suleimani, a top Iraqi militia leader, among others. . . . "


The American Deep State does not want peaceful resolution, it only wants war.

In war, truth is the first casualty. Folks should watch behavior, not propaganda.

It’s amazing to me that you’ll take the word of an Iranian diplomat as gospel even though we know full fucking well that the deep state has controlled that country for decades since the Shah was removed. You people are losing your minds over the NWO. Your brains are completely fried.

The deep state controls Iran? Can you please offer evidence of this?

I offer you people nothing. I don’t debate with you anymore. If you want to straggle back with the left as being the last fucking people left in this country to wake up then by all means, make fools of yourselves.

Paulie, I am getting damn tired of repeating myself.

The only folks that get what is going on, or those who understand and; ONE oppose this carbon tax shit, and TWO oppose war for oil, are those who understand what under-girds the entire system of international finance, the petro-dollar. If you DO UNDERSTAND this all, and are logically consistent? You naturally oppose both.



If you DO NOT GET that these two issues are inter-related and both are connected to the petro-dollar, you just don't get it.

As I posted in another thread, it is all about the oily gorilla in the room that no one wants to talk about.

I am getting tired of repeating myself. No one, on the left, or on the right, will do any thinking.


Americans KNOW this.

How do we know?

Here is the oily gorilla in the room that EVERYONE knows is there.

What You Should Know About Petrodollars

Trump isn't even bothering to hide the agenda;

US Troops Staying in Syria to 'Keep the Oil' Have Already Killed Hundreds

Trump OKs wider Syria oil mission, raising legal questions

Trump’s Baffling Plan to Pillage Syria’s Oil




READ.
No matter how much you indoctrinate folks in schools and in the corporate/government media, folks can only be dumbed down so much.

They WILL NOT FIGHT FOR OIL ANYMORE. It needs to end.

Who Signs Up to Fight? Makeup of U.S. Recruits Shows Glaring Disparity
Who Signs Up to Fight? Makeup of U.S. Recruits Shows Glaring Disparity

Facts don't lie, no matter how much bullshit you parrot from your social networks, conservative radio, liberal MSM, CFR-government colluded think tanks or TEE VEE.

They need to fight wars to stabilize the petro dollar. They need to tax energy to prop up the petro dollar.

EVERYTHING is about the petro dollar.

Forget all the propaganda they tell you on the radio, in your social media, from the U.N., on the TEE VEE, it is always about the international banking cabal and the petro dollars. . . .

Yeah Paulie obviously has Alzheimers diseace,as you said so well,you already took him to school on this earlier.Is it YOUR fault he ignored it and doesn't remember that post and you just have to keep repeating the same thing over and over again only to watch him do THIS-

all the time everytime you take him to school?

cant teach a student who refuses to memorize the facts the teacher taught him.

Just stop talking. This entire discussion is so far above your pay grade. Your posts read like a 15 year old. How is anyone supposed to take you seriously when you communicate with emojis like a child? And that’s if they can even comprehend what you’re trying to say in between the emojis, considering your grasp on the English language is just a tad bit better than an illegal immigrant’s.

 

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The Democratic party is a complete joke and a global embarrassment.

Not unlike the R party.

yeah he is obviously another one of those brainwashed sheep that has been brainwashed by our corrupt school system that there is a difference in the corrupt two party system,clueless how they are one in the same,only just have a different name for the appearance of looking better.

Yeah, right. The Democratic party is the UNAmerican party. The party of welcoming foreign terrorists, murderers, drug pushers, and rapists within our borders. The party that condones the slaughter of unborn babies. The party that champions sexual perversion. The party of Communism, Socialism, Marxism. The party of 16oz cokes. The party that takes God and Jesus out of our society.
The party that is the laughing stock of the globe.
The Democratic party has nothing in common with the Republican party.