Online Purchases Soon To Be Taxed Nationwide...

[Care4all]

See my response above.

Are you paying Florida's rate to Florida, or to California?

I saw your post above, and answered it.

IF I buy something in Florida why would I pay taxes in California?

Interesting concept, treat online purchases as though the purchaser had bought the item in person and shipped it separately.

That would nullify Consumer Use Tax, at least the way the Missouri law is written.

If you paid sale s tax to the seller, there is no CUT assessed.

I'll have to give it further consideration, but at first blush it seems to remove many inherent tax collection hurdles.

right now, according to law, you can't make a person not from your state who is not in your state, pay your state's sales tax...if I am in your state, using your state roads and facilities, then your state can make me pay your State's sales taxes....but if I am not there in person, your State can not tax me for services I will never receive...that is taxation without representation among other things too....

 

[uscitizen]

Leaving people alone is not "preferential treatment"...What's so difficult to grasp about that simple concept?

Leaving only some people alone is preferrential treatment.

That's the ethos of the protection racketeer, Bubba.

Ahh if I could just have the celebrity exemption from prosecution and penalties.

Unequal enforcement is just plain wrong.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

See my response above.

Are you paying Florida's rate to Florida, or to California?

I saw your post above, and answered it.

IF I buy something in Florida why would I pay taxes in California?

Interesting concept, treat online purchases as though the purchaser had bought the item in person and shipped it separately.

That would nullify Consumer Use Tax, at least the way the Missouri law is written.

If you paid sale s tax to the seller, there is no CUT assessed.

I'll have to give it further consideration, but at first blush it seems to remove many inherent tax collection hurdles.

I don't think it would. The law seems to be aimed at anyone who hasn't paid taxes somewhere, not just in Missouri. I doubt they get much revenue from it anyway.

 

[Care4all]

Go after the tax cheats within your own state, don't force my State's citizens to collect taxes for your State that they are having problems collecting.

Make the cheaters be penalized, but don't use a citizen of another State to enforce the rules and taxation of your State....your State should have absolutely no legislative power over my State or the citizens within my state... it is common sense folks.

Go after the bad guys...within your State that are tax cheats.

I claim all of my online purchases from out of State , and pay my taxes according to law....I should not be punished for another person's criminality.

 

[uscitizen]

Care is likely the only person I know that is claiming her out of state purchases on her state taxes.

Myself included.
Cudos to Care.

 

[Care4all]

Care is likely the only person I know that is claiming her out of state purchases on her state taxes.

Myself included.
Cudos to Care.

I just figured that Big Brother could trace it anyway....so I just followed the rules!

I will say I thought for a day or two that I could get away with not paying sales tax on the car I legally bought in New Hampshire who had no sales tax.... and I had a little tingle or two over it....

but low and behold, Massachusetts found a legal way around it and got me to pay it anyway! so, that's what I did, I paid it.

 

[Avorysuds]

No one ever planned for the internet to be a tax free haven forever, the question came up first thing when the commercial net was getting started and it was decided that to encourage the growth of this new sector that they would hold off a while. I think things are pretty well established by now.

I’m sorry, did you just admit that raising taxes stifles growth?

 

[The Rabbi]

That comes with it's own problems.

States that harbor the largest segments of the online market would make out like bandits, being the largest net exporters, while states that are the larger net consumers of online sales would get hosed.

The people who will get hosed are the customers paying taxes in states where they don't reside.

Y'know, that whole "taxation without representation" thingy.

They dont get hosed. They pay the same tax as everyone else. If they dont want to pay the online sales tax they can purchase locally.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

States that already have an online sales tax are Kansas, Kentucky, North Dakota, New York, Texas and Washington

In fact 22 states require residents to report purchases of goods from outside the state to be used in the respective states, and the tax is assessed at tax time. Its called the consumer use tax. Louisiana has one of 8%.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Care is likely the only person I know that is claiming her out of state purchases on her state taxes.

Myself included.
Cudos to Care.

Sorry, but I'm not a tax cheat like you are, either.

 

[Oddball]

That comes with it's own problems.

States that harbor the largest segments of the online market would make out like bandits, being the largest net exporters, while states that are the larger net consumers of online sales would get hosed.

The people who will get hosed are the customers paying taxes in states where they don't reside.

Y'know, that whole "taxation without representation" thingy.

They dont get hosed. They pay the same tax as everyone else. If they dont want to pay the online sales tax they can purchase locally.

Shopping locally you pay for your own gubmint, not that if a city/state 1,000 miles from yours.

 

[Oddball]

Care is likely the only person I know that is claiming her out of state purchases on her state taxes.

Myself included.
Cudos to Care.

Sorry, but I'm not a tax cheat like you are, either.

Avoiding taxation isn't "cheating", komrade.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

States that already have an online sales tax are Kansas, Kentucky, North Dakota, New York, Texas and Washington

In fact 22 states require residents to report purchases of goods from outside the state to be used in the respective states, and the tax is assessed at tax time. Its called the consumer use tax. Louisiana has one of 8%.

And?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Care is likely the only person I know that is claiming her out of state purchases on her state taxes.

Myself included.
Cudos to Care.

Sorry, but I'm not a tax cheat like you are, either.

Good to see you agree that this law is not needed.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Screwed by the phony Conservatives and Socialists/Progressives again.


Small companies who want to sell their products online are in real trouble. Some Republican governors, eager to enrich their thinning state coffers, are endorsing a tax that would be imposed on products sold online.According to the National Conference of State Legislatures Strapped, states could reap as much as $23 billion in new annual revenue.

Bigger chains are happy with the move. Scott Mason, a vice president at Lowe's Cos, who noted that Lowe’s has a 5 percent to 10 percent price disadvantage compared with online rivals, exclaimed, "Having one of the most recognized and widely popular Republican leaders take this position gives other politicians comfort that the online sales tax is fair and helps state budgets in crisis.”

Until recently, consumers could purchase items online without paying sales tax, a strategy that enabled consumers to shop at local stores but then order the same products online so they could avoid the sales tax. In order to level the playing field, there has been a push to tax the online purchases so local business owners could compete.

The giant Amazon.com, which initially viewed with disfavor the idea of a sales tax, has decided that they now like the idea. Why? Because Amazon plans to offer same-day delivery, which will mean it needs more local warehouses, and it will then get hit by state taxes anyway.

Small online competitors are upset. Steve DelBianco, executive director of NetChoice, a trade group representing eBay, Overstock.com and others, said, "Besides the Republican support, this position change is being driven by the millions of dollars being spent by the big-box retailers—and now Amazon—to push the sales tax through Congress."

States that already have an online sales tax are Kansas, Kentucky, North Dakota, New York, Texas and Washington. Other state that are planning to join them are California (Sept. 2012), Indiana (Jan. 2014), Nevada (Jan. 2014), New Jersey (July 2013), South Carolina (Jan. 2016),Tennessee (Jan 2014) and Virginia (Sept 2013)...

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Online Purchases Soon To Be Taxed Nationwide

yep, chris christie is a disgusting fat pig.

oik, oik

 

[Care4all]

Until recently, consumers could purchase items online without paying sales tax, a strategy that enabled consumers to shop at local stores but then order the same products online so they could avoid the sales tax. In order to level the playing field, there has been a push to tax the online purchases so local business owners could compete.

this part of the article is a BIG BIG BIG LIE!

IF the customers could shop locally then go home and order the stuff ...the "stuff" would be shipped and delivered to their home address which would be within the State that they live so the Sales tax would be charged to them.

that part of the article is pure BULL CRAP....NO ONE can go home and order from a local store's online store, and not be charged state sales taxes....NO ONE.

If the store, has a store within your state, whether an online store or a brick and mortar store, sales tax is charged for instate purchases.

 

[WillowTree]

Until recently, consumers could purchase items online without paying sales tax, a strategy that enabled consumers to shop at local stores but then order the same products online so they could avoid the sales tax. In order to level the playing field, there has been a push to tax the online purchases so local business owners could compete.

this part of the article is a BIG BIG BIG LIE!

IF the customers could shop locally then go home and order the stuff ...the "stuff" would be shipped and delivered to their home address which would be within the State that they live so the Sales tax would be charged to them.

that part of the article is pure BULL CRAP....NO ONE can go home and order from a local store's online store, and not be charged state sales taxes....NO ONE.

If the store, has a store within your state, whether an online store or a brick and mortar store, sales tax is charged for instate purchases.

That's not what that sentence said. for instance I can go shopping locally at Best Buy and find a piece of equipment I like, then come home and go to Amazon.com and buy it cheaper and with no sales tax or shipping. Now you cannot beat that. Try it.

 

[The Rabbi]

The people who will get hosed are the customers paying taxes in states where they don't reside.

Y'know, that whole "taxation without representation" thingy.

They dont get hosed. They pay the same tax as everyone else. If they dont want to pay the online sales tax they can purchase locally.

Shopping locally you pay for your own gubmint, not that if a city/state 1,000 miles from yours.

I dont know how the law is structured. It is likely the money will be apportioned back to the states. In which case it makes perfect sense.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Screwed by the phony Conservatives and Socialists/Progressives again.


Small companies who want to sell their products online are in real trouble. Some Republican governors, eager to enrich their thinning state coffers, are endorsing a tax that would be imposed on products sold online.According to the National Conference of State Legislatures Strapped, states could reap as much as $23 billion in new annual revenue.

Bigger chains are happy with the move. Scott Mason, a vice president at Lowe's Cos, who noted that Lowe’s has a 5 percent to 10 percent price disadvantage compared with online rivals, exclaimed, "Having one of the most recognized and widely popular Republican leaders take this position gives other politicians comfort that the online sales tax is fair and helps state budgets in crisis.”

Until recently, consumers could purchase items online without paying sales tax, a strategy that enabled consumers to shop at local stores but then order the same products online so they could avoid the sales tax. In order to level the playing field, there has been a push to tax the online purchases so local business owners could compete.

The giant Amazon.com, which initially viewed with disfavor the idea of a sales tax, has decided that they now like the idea. Why? Because Amazon plans to offer same-day delivery, which will mean it needs more local warehouses, and it will then get hit by state taxes anyway.

Small online competitors are upset. Steve DelBianco, executive director of NetChoice, a trade group representing eBay, Overstock.com and others, said, "Besides the Republican support, this position change is being driven by the millions of dollars being spent by the big-box retailers—and now Amazon—to push the sales tax through Congress."

States that already have an online sales tax are Kansas, Kentucky, North Dakota, New York, Texas and Washington. Other state that are planning to join them are California (Sept. 2012), Indiana (Jan. 2014), Nevada (Jan. 2014), New Jersey (July 2013), South Carolina (Jan. 2016),Tennessee (Jan 2014) and Virginia (Sept 2013)...

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Online Purchases Soon To Be Taxed Nationwide

Here's the deal...Slapping taxes to on line purchases will not increase revenue. People will simply not buy as much.
This is merely a political move to placate the Brick and Mortar retail sales lobby.
It's a money grab. That's all.
The way I see it is most people shop regularly throughout the year are impulse buyers.
As with any retailer, Amazon et al do most of their business from October through the week before Christmas. If people know they have to pay taxes on purchases, they will go to the retailer. On line sales companies will get killed. And THAT is the goal here.
Brick and Mortar retailers don't want the competition.
Anyone who favors this money grab is buying into the scam.

 

[Inthemiddle]

Why should small brick and mortar stores suffer because people can screw the government out of tax revenue they are entitled to?

Conservatives saying that the government is entitled to taxes. Amazing.