Only a Mass Working-Class Climate Politics Can Free Us From the Climate Doom Cycle

[basquebromance]

Ha ha ha...,

No, I didn't avoid your article which is written by a socialist loon while YOU ignored my questions and two articles from NASA that smashes your claims thus you are the one avoiding debate.

I have been reacting to your posts with facts which you ignore because you can't counter it.

This post exposes the stupid chronic we are in doom unless we allow socialists take over our country to fix a non-existing climate crisis problem.

IPCC Issues their Annual Final Climate Warning​

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Here is the reality:

i can post shiny graphics too!

 

[Sunsettommy]

i can post shiny graphics too!

LOL, you are making my point loudly as you make clear you have no argument to make and now making a fool of yourself for your inability to debate anything.

My chart was valid as it shows the death rate from weather events dropped over 90% in 100 years.

My Question remains unaddressed (What Climate Crisis) and my Post 15 based on NASA reports goes ignored and the reason you are doing it is because it utterly destroys your entire threads premise.

 

[basquebromance]

All life is conjured from CO2. This is the original magic trick, from which everything else in the living world follows. At Earth’s surface, with mere sunlight and water, it is transformed into living matter through photosynthesis, leaving oxygen in its wake. This plant carbon then flows through animal bodies and ecosystems and back out into the oceans and air as CO2 once again. But some of this carbon slips the churn of the surface world altogether and passes into the Earth – as limestone, or as carbon-rich sludge, slumbering deep in the planet’s crust for hundreds of millions of years. If it isn’t buried, this plant stuff is quickly burned on Earth’s surface in the fires of metabolism, by animals, fungi, bacteria. In this way, life uses up 99.99 per cent of the oxygen produced by photosynthesis – and would use it all, if it weren’t for that infinitesimal leak of plant matter into the rocks. But it is from this leak into the rocks that the planet has been gifted its strange surplus of oxygen. In other words, the Earth’s breathable atmosphere is the legacy not of forests and swirls of plankton alive today but of the CO2 captured by life over all of our planet’s history and commended to Earth’s crust as fossil fuels.

If this was the end of the story, and CO2 was merely the fundamental substrate of all living things on Earth and the indirect source of its life-sustaining oxygen, that would be interesting enough. But it just so happens that this same unassuming molecule also critically modulates the temperature of the entire planet and the chemistry of the entire ocean. When this carbon chemistry goes awry, the living world is warped, the thermostat breaks, the oceans acidify and things die. This astounding significance of carbon dioxide to every component of the Earth system is why it’s not just another noisome industrial pollutant to regulate, like chlorofluorocarbons or lead. It is rather, as the oceanographer Roger Revelle wrote in 1985, ‘the most important substance in the biosphere’.

The most important substance in the biosphere is not one to be treated cavalierly. The movement of CO2 – as it billows from volcanoes, stirs into the air and oceans, swirls through eddies of life and soaks back into the rocks again – is what makes the Earth the Earth. This is called the carbon cycle, and life on Earth crucially depends on this global cycle maintaining a kind of delicate, if dynamic, balance. While CO2 perennially issues from volcanoes (at a hundredth the rate of human emissions) and living organisms exchange it in a ceaseless frenzy at the Earth’s surface, the planet is meanwhile constantly scrubbing it from the system at the same time, preventing climate catastrophe. Feedbacks that draw down CO2 – from the erosion of whole mountain chains to the sinking of blizzards of carbon-rich plankton to the bottom of the sea – serve to maintain a kind of planetary equilibrium. Most of the time. This is an unlikely, miraculous world we live on, and one that we recklessly take for granted.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Join me in this effort, join Greta Thunberg in this effort, join AOC in this effort, join Governor Newsom in this effort, and let us hold hands and instead of spending our budget for weapons of war, let us pool our resources with Russia and China to fight our common enemy: THE CLIMATE CHANGE!

Only a Mass Working-Class Climate Politics Can Free Us From the Climate Doom Cycle​

Working class people aren't interested in wasting their money on less reliable, green energy.
They don't have enough money to buy an EV and Bidenflation has them focused on buying
necessities, not silly green luxuries.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It will no doubt be the issue that will define and shape our future everyday life like no other. This is painfully clear.

The leftist response to this idiocy is already painful.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

we need to rapidly spread awareness, because the general public still lacks much of the basic knowledge that is necessary to understand the dire situation we are in.

You're right, too many green idiots in power is a very dire situation.

 

[Sunsettommy]

While he drones on without a cogent argument here is why this CO2 emission claims are overblown and a waste of time and money:

Meanwhile the following doesn't show any Climate Crisis developing at all, this is about Tropical Storms.

and,

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And there is much longer evidence to back that up. Here are the records of all hurricanes (left) and major hurricanes (right) that came ashore in the US in the last 150 years … NO increase. SOURCE: Nature magazine.

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And here are the numbers of Pacific typhoons (hurricanes) from the Japanese Meteorological Agency.

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Here are landfalling typhoons (hurricanes) in China. Like the majority of the world areas, we’re seeing fewer landfalls in China.

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And here are a century and a half of records of the number of landfalling hurricanes in Florida.

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Finally, here are the declining numbers of both strong and average cyclones in Australian waters, from the Australian Bureau of Meteorology (BOM).

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The richest 1 per cent of the world’s population are responsible for more than twice as much carbon pollution as the people who make up the poorest half of humanity.

You're right, the biggest cut in CO2 the US could make would be to deport 40 million illegal aliens back to their poorer, greener country. Today!

 

[Oddball]

There is still time for us to avoid the worst outcomes. There is still hope, but not if we continue as we are today. To solve this problem, we first need to understand it – and to understand the fact that the problem itself is by definition a series of interconnected problems. We need to lay out the facts and tell it like it is. Science is a tool, and we all need to learn how to use it.

We also need to answer some fundamental questions. Like, what is it, exactly, we want to solve in the first place? What is our goal? Is it to lower emissions, or to be able to go on living as we are today? Is our goal to safeguard present and future living conditions, or is it to maintain a high-consumption way of life? Is there such a thing as green growth? And can we have eternal economic growth on a finite planet?

Right now, many of us are in need of hope. But what is hope? And hope for whom? Hope for those of us who have created the problem, or for those who are already suffering its consequences? And can our desire to deliver this hope get in the way of taking action and therefore risk doing more harm than good?

The richest 1 per cent of the world’s population are responsible for more than twice as much carbon pollution as the people who make up the poorest half of humanity.
Perhaps, if you are one of the 19 million US citizens or the 4 million citizens of China who belong to that top 1 per cent – along with everyone else who has a net worth of $1,055,337 or more – then hope is perhaps not what you need the most. At least not from an objective perspective.

 

[basquebromance]

Every single mass extinction in Earth history is similarly marked by massive disruptions of the global carbon cycle, the signals of which have been teased out of the rocks by geochemists. Given the central importance of CO2 to the biosphere, perhaps we shouldn’t be surprised to find that pushing this system so far from equilibrium can so reliably result in planetary devastation.

Now, what if one lineage of the primate Homo tried to do the exact same thing as those ancient volcanoes hundreds of millions of years ago? What if they immolated those same massive reservoirs of underground carbon – buried by photosynthetic life over all of Earth history – not by mindlessly exploding it all through the crust like a supervolcano but in a rather more mannered fashion, retrieving it from the deep and burning it all at the surface in a more diffuse eruption, in the pistons and forges of modernity . . . and at a rate ten times that of the ancient mass extinctions? That is the absurd question we now demand the planet answer for us.

 

[basquebromance]

You're right, the biggest cut in CO2 the US could make would be to deport 40 million illegal aliens back to their poorer, greener country. Today!

Biden's already going in that direction

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Keeping emissions below 1 tonne per person a year will not be a problem for the majority of the world’s population, since they will only need to make modest reductions – if any – in order to live inside the planetary boundaries.

Excellent point.
You must tell the poor nations that they need to consume even less, to save the planet.
Good luck!
Please live stream your speeches.
Which poor nation will you be lecturing first?

 

[basquebromance]

Excellent point.
You must tell the poor nations that they need to consume even less, to save the planet.
Good luck!
Please live stream your speeches.
Which poor nation will you be lecturing first?

East Palestine

 

[ding]

Join me in this effort, join Greta Thunberg in this effort, join AOC in this effort, join Governor Newsom in this effort, and let us hold hands and instead of spending our budget for weapons of war, let us pool our resources with Russia and China to fight our common enemy: THE CLIMATE CHANGE!

Only a Mass Working-Class Climate Politics Can Free Us From the Climate Doom Cycle​

If you really cared about the planet you would be for nuclear annihilation.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Biden's already going in that direction

Reducing new illegal aliens is a first step.
Deporting all the rest is the only thing that can save our planet.
Please join me in shipping them home.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Every single mass extinction in Earth history is similarly marked by massive disruptions of the global carbon cycle, the signals of which have been teased out of the rocks by geochemists. Given the central importance of CO2 to the biosphere, perhaps we shouldn’t be surprised to find that pushing this system so far from equilibrium can so reliably result in planetary devastation.

Now, what if one lineage of the primate Homo tried to do the exact same thing as those ancient volcanoes hundreds of millions of years ago? What if they immolated those same massive reservoirs of underground carbon – buried by photosynthetic life over all of Earth history – not by mindlessly exploding it all through the crust like a supervolcano but in a rather more mannered fashion, retrieving it from the deep and burning it all at the surface in a more diffuse eruption, in the pistons and forges of modernity . . . and at a rate ten times that of the ancient mass extinctions? That is the absurd question we now demand the planet answer for us.

Now you are babbling with nonsense.

Still ignoring POST 15 showing that increasing CO2 is firing up the life of the planet.

 

[petro]

Palm trees on the beaches of Lake Superior sound like Heaven to me, not a crisis.
With that area getting 10ft of snow this year, I am becoming doubtful my dream will come true.

 

[Sunsettommy]

More information Op will ignore as it smashes his climate climate delusion:

More evidence of NO climate emergency brewing:

2022 Global Wide Hurricane Season Ends with Weakest Storm Levels of the Last 42 Years
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Despite that big increase in CO2 emissions in recent decades it hasn't gotten worse at all.

That is why I know warmist/alarmists are in total delusional denial of reality.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Here is more evidence that Climate Crisis isn't developing:

There has been no global increase in the number of wildfires … here’s the NASA satellite data.

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Warmist/alarmists needs to stop lying!

 

[ReinyDays]

Join me in this effort, join Greta Thunberg in this effort, join AOC in this effort, join Governor Newsom in this effort, and let us hold hands and instead of spending our budget for weapons of war, let us pool our resources with Russia and China to fight our common enemy: THE CLIMATE CHANGE!

Only a Mass Working-Class Climate Politics Can Free Us From the Climate Doom Cycle​

Your math is wrong ... 14ºC - 13ºC = 1ºC ... such a tiny difference doesn't change day-to-day weather ... and not the averages of this weather = climate ...

There's better reasons to curtail the burning of fossil fuels ... climate isn't changing ... it's going to rain in Iowa all summer long until the ice sheets cover her up again ...