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She started the fight, she put her baby in danger. And yes, it was a baby.

Um, no, it was a fetus.

She's not the one who pulled the trigger.

So let me get this straight. A woman gets into an argument with another woman over a man they were both sleeping with. One of them pulls out a gun, shoots the other and the woman who got shot is treated like the perp?

This is all kinds of messed up.
The real facts are out there and actually on this board. She attacked the other woman, they were in a car, she was beating the crap out of the other woman and she pulled her gun in self defense. If the pregnant woman had not been the aggressor, that child would probably be alive today.

Shooting once is self defense. Shooting someone 5 times is attempted murder.
She was 5 months pregnant, not shot 5 times. She also left the scene and went to a convenience store instead of the hospital.


Marshae Jones was indicted for manslaughter for losing a pregnancy after being shot in the abdomen FIVE times. Her shooter remains free,” the nonprofit said.

Alabama pregnant woman shot in the stomach indicted in fetus’ death while shooter goes free
 
Yes, the crazy world of Religious Nuttery is a lot closer than we think. Let's look at this case.

A shooting ended Marshae Jones’s pregnancy. Police say it’s her fault.

In Alabama, a black woman is facing criminal charges after being shot in the stomach and having a miscarriage. The story has drawn national attention and outrage from reproductive rights groups who argue that the incident is a disturbing example of the mistreatment and criminalization of low-income pregnant women of color.

On Wednesday, Marshae Jones, a 27-year-old woman from Birmingham, was taken into police custody after being indicted in Jefferson County on a manslaughter charge. She is currently being held on a $50,000 bond.

In December, Jones — then five months pregnant — got into an altercation with a 23-year-old woman outside of a store. The woman, Ebony Jemison, pulled out a gun and shot Jones in the stomach. Jones miscarried shortly after.

“Let’s not lose sight that the unborn baby is the victim here,’’ Reid said. “She had no choice in being brought unnecessarily into a fight where she was relying on her mother for protection.” Alabama is one of 38 states with a fetal homicide law that recognizes a fetus as a potential victim of a crime against a pregnant woman.

When the indictment was reported on Wednesday, it immediately raised questions about why the woman who was shot was the one charged.


So we live in a gun-crazy culture where a fetus has more rights than the woman it is inside. How could anything go wrong?
Racist.
 
If federal law permits a person to terminate pregnancy it shouldn't penalize that person for the destruction of the same fetus. That is pretty stupid.
 
Yep, just as all pro abortion supporters say.

Because it's still true. A woman doesn't call a pregnancy she doesn't want "The baby". She calls it 'That thing I need to take care of."

She climbed on top of her in the car. Never seen two women fight?

Yeah.. and in most cases, they fight like girls and pulling a gun isn't necessary.

But charging the one who got shot with murder?

Remember when this was a crazy Feminist fantasy?

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If federal law permits a person to terminate pregnancy it shouldn't penalize that person for the destruction of the same fetus. That is pretty stupid.

Well Alabama is one of our biggest producers of stupidity in this country so I'm not surprised.
 
She started the fight, she put her baby in danger. And yes, it was a baby.

Um, no, it was a fetus.

She's not the one who pulled the trigger.

So let me get this straight. A woman gets into an argument with another woman over a man they were both sleeping with. One of them pulls out a gun, shoots the other and the woman who got shot is treated like the perp?

This is all kinds of messed up.
The real facts are out there and actually on this board. She attacked the other woman, they were in a car, she was beating the crap out of the other woman and she pulled her gun in self defense. If the pregnant woman had not been the aggressor, that child would probably be alive today.

Shooting once is self defense. Shooting someone 5 times is attempted murder.
Please cite the case law that supports your retarded assertion. Don’t worry. We’ll wait...
 
Yes, the crazy world of Religious Nuttery is a lot closer than we think. Let's look at this case.

A shooting ended Marshae Jones’s pregnancy. Police say it’s her fault.

In Alabama, a black woman is facing criminal charges after being shot in the stomach and having a miscarriage. The story has drawn national attention and outrage from reproductive rights groups who argue that the incident is a disturbing example of the mistreatment and criminalization of low-income pregnant women of color.

On Wednesday, Marshae Jones, a 27-year-old woman from Birmingham, was taken into police custody after being indicted in Jefferson County on a manslaughter charge. She is currently being held on a $50,000 bond.

In December, Jones — then five months pregnant — got into an altercation with a 23-year-old woman outside of a store. The woman, Ebony Jemison, pulled out a gun and shot Jones in the stomach. Jones miscarried shortly after.

“Let’s not lose sight that the unborn baby is the victim here,’’ Reid said. “She had no choice in being brought unnecessarily into a fight where she was relying on her mother for protection.” Alabama is one of 38 states with a fetal homicide law that recognizes a fetus as a potential victim of a crime against a pregnant woman.

When the indictment was reported on Wednesday, it immediately raised questions about why the woman who was shot was the one charged.


So we live in a gun-crazy culture where a fetus has more rights than the woman it is inside. How could anything go wrong?

What is sad is, you care nothing about this case and nothing about the people OTHER THAN the fact that the death of the unborn infant was listed as manslaughter, giving the unborn legal importance.

But as we all know, under Roe vs. Wade women have the right to choose genocide.
 
She started the fight, she put her baby in danger. And yes, it was a baby.

Um, no, it was a fetus.

She's not the one who pulled the trigger.

So let me get this straight. A woman gets into an argument with another woman over a man they were both sleeping with. One of them pulls out a gun, shoots the other and the woman who got shot is treated like the perp?

This is all kinds of messed up.
Joe: "She's not the one who pulled the trigger."​

Well, we agree one objective. I'm gonna faint right now. :rolleyes:
 
If federal law permits a person to terminate pregnancy it shouldn't penalize that person for the destruction of the same fetus. That is pretty stupid.
That’s not the law here. The days of victimizing the unborn, and treating them as less than human are over. As this primitive, gut shot miscreant is quickly finding out...
 
She started the fight, she put her baby in danger. And yes, it was a baby.

Um, no, it was a fetus.

She's not the one who pulled the trigger.

So let me get this straight. A woman gets into an argument with another woman over a man they were both sleeping with. One of them pulls out a gun, shoots the other and the woman who got shot is treated like the perp?

This is all kinds of messed up.
The real facts are out there and actually on this board. She attacked the other woman, they were in a car, she was beating the crap out of the other woman and she pulled her gun in self defense. If the pregnant woman had not been the aggressor, that child would probably be alive today.

Shooting once is self defense. Shooting someone 5 times is attempted murder.
Please cite the case law that supports your retarded assertion. Don’t worry. We’ll wait...

Neve said anything about the law. But use your common sense. You don't pull the trigger 5 times to defend yourself to get away. You're trying to kill someone at that point.

And I don't believe for one second the other woman felt her life was threaten. They were in a dispute over some dumb motherfucker. Killing the other woman would make things easier for her.
 
If federal law permits a person to terminate pregnancy it shouldn't penalize that person for the destruction of the same fetus. That is pretty stupid.
That’s not the law here. The days of victimizing the unborn, and treating them as less than human are over. As this primitive, gut shot miscreant is quickly finding out...

Your shithole state cares so much for the unborn, but does nothing for them after they're born. Your shithole state comes in dead last when it comes to education , bottom 5 in terms of economy and healthcare.

What a merciful state.
 
She started the fight, she put her baby in danger. And yes, it was a baby.

Um, no, it was a fetus.

She's not the one who pulled the trigger.

So let me get this straight. A woman gets into an argument with another woman over a man they were both sleeping with. One of them pulls out a gun, shoots the other and the woman who got shot is treated like the perp?

This is all kinds of messed up.
The real facts are out there and actually on this board. She attacked the other woman, they were in a car, she was beating the crap out of the other woman and she pulled her gun in self defense. If the pregnant woman had not been the aggressor, that child would probably be alive today.

Shooting once is self defense. Shooting someone 5 times is attempted murder.
Please cite the case law that supports your retarded assertion. Don’t worry. We’ll wait...

Neve said anything about the law. But use your common sense. You don't pull the trigger 5 times to defend yourself to get away. You're trying to kill someone at that point.

And I don't believe for one second the other woman felt her life was threaten. They were in a dispute over some dumb motherfucker. Killing the other woman would make things easier for her.
Too bad. Because it IS all about the law. And it doesn’t really matter what you believe. All that matters is what you can prove. That’s where the courts come in. And the courts have decided.
 
What is sad is, you care nothing about this case and nothing about the people OTHER THAN the fact that the death of the unborn infant was listed as manslaughter, giving the unborn legal importance.

But as we all know, under Roe vs. Wade women have the right to choose genocide.

Okay, you need to look up "genocide" and actually understand what that word means...

Genocide is the extermination of a race, not practicing a form of contraception willingly.

The problem here is that once you declare fetuses to be people, you take rights away from the women they are inside... in areas beyond just abortion.

Don't let a fight get out of hand, because someone might shoot you and cause you to miscarry, and we'll charge you with murder for losing a fetus? That's nuts.

What comes next, investigating every miscarriage as a potential homicide? Throwing crime scene tape around tampons?

This fall, Law and Order: Fetus Police!

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Brisco is probably glad to be dead at this point!
 
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If federal law permits a person to terminate pregnancy it shouldn't penalize that person for the destruction of the same fetus. That is pretty stupid.
That’s not the law here. The days of victimizing the unborn, and treating them as less than human are over. As this primitive, gut shot miscreant is quickly finding out...

Your shithole state cares so much for the unborn, but does nothing for them after they're born. Your shithole state comes in dead last when it comes to education , bottom 5 in terms of economy and healthcare.

What a merciful state.
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As for the children..? Take care of your own. Even if you don’t want to. Kill people..? And we’ll kill you back.
 
If you think God is "too busy," you have no idea what God can do. And he knows why you are bitter towards his kingdom; as a mortal, I don't, and sometimes, I just can't care, Mr. Joe.

No, I know God doesn't exist.

Just like you know Allah, Zeus, Odin, Quezacoatl, etc. don't exist. There's a whole shitload of "Gods" you don't believe in.

I just believe in one less than you do.
 
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