Outrage grows after South Carolina officer throws student in classroom

[Asclepias]

So did the feral chimp get his job back or did he get a settlement yet like all the clowns were predicting?

 

[jc456]

again, what attack, you keep posting that, he was removing a student from class on orders. The student did not wish to leave voluntarily and was instead escorted out.

No one can help you when try to spin something that is so obviously not that. We've seen the videos, don't try peeing on our legs and telling us it's raining when you're doing it at the urinal next door with your pants around your ankles. No one is buying...

dude you lost, you conceded with your last post when you made up a story that never happened. Go play make believe with someone else. Officer Ben is a hero.

We don't fire heroes, in most cases, and he wouldn't have been a hero in the first place as he did nothing heroic. What he did wasn't even professional or allowed, and pretty much everyone in the country knows it but you. With that said, I give up, no one can help you but do us all a favor, stay the hell away from children, all of them.

no, usually heros get shot by their army buddies at a shooting range right?

That sniper was no hero either. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Jesus should have taught you that by now.

I did that on purpose to show what kind of fk you truly are. Way to step up and play the part.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

No one can help you when try to spin something that is so obviously not that. We've seen the videos, don't try peeing on our legs and telling us it's raining when you're doing it at the urinal next door with your pants around your ankles. No one is buying...

dude you lost, you conceded with your last post when you made up a story that never happened. Go play make believe with someone else. Officer Ben is a hero.

We don't fire heroes, in most cases, and he wouldn't have been a hero in the first place as he did nothing heroic. What he did wasn't even professional or allowed, and pretty much everyone in the country knows it but you. With that said, I give up, no one can help you but do us all a favor, stay the hell away from children, all of them.

no, usually heros get shot by their army buddies at a shooting range right?

That sniper was no hero either. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Jesus should have taught you that by now.

I did that on purpose to show what kind of fk you truly are. Way to step up and play the part.

Most cannon fodder are not heroes as they do nothing heroic. Killing people is just that, in most cases. Save three kids and a dog from a burning house, that's a hero...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

So did the feral chimp get his job back or did he get a settlement yet like all the clowns were predicting?

Neither. He is looking for a new career. Those videos will follow him for life.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I have plenty of morals, and plenty of common sense, ...

LOL! Huh NO... No ya don't. You have no discernible morals, and nothing you have ever posted represents anything remotely akin to a sound sense of anything, except of course that which serves your own subjective needs.

... but being a liberal, like the Founders

ROFLMNAO!

If the Founders were 'liberals', then you are NOT a liberal. For you to be 'like the Founders', the Founders would have had to have been Leftists.

See how that works?

I don't want to live in this Police State...

Then you should not promote or otherwise engage in behavior which requires one.

Ya see scamp, the right to not live in a police state, you should bear the responsibilities that are intrinsic to a state without the need for Police.

And just as an FYI: the behavior of that animal in that video... is the antithesis of a 'liberal', and void of any sense of the responsibilities required to live free.

 

[Pogo]

And just as an FYI: the behavior of that animal in that video... is the antithesis of a 'liberal', and void of any sense of the responsibilities required to live free.

Finally got one right. The stopped clock nails it.

 

[Correll]

More deflection off the issue because you can't deal with it. Fucking coward. Onto ignore you go. Ciao.

29 classmates held hostage, let's present it correctly now.

And btw, if it were me I file charges against her for kidnapping her classmates.

A debate at Fox’s Houston station went off the rails on Tuesday after a white Republican pundit told a black activist that “black culture” caused a cop to body slam a high school girl in South Carolina.

Angela Box argued that Deputy Ben Fields should not have been fired for violently throwing a 16-year-old school girl to the ground because he was “doing his job.”

“It’s time we start addressing the root cause of all this,” she said. “The disrespect of teachers, this Black Lives Matter movement, this perpetual chip on your shoulder against everybody that’s not like yourself. It’s got to stop. We’ve got to address the culture.”

Activist Quanell X then said: “Now for you to say that we need to deal with the culture of black kids in schools,” he noted, taking a deep breath. “Let’s deal with the culture of these crazy fanatic white boys who go in schools with guns and shoot and kill everybody.”

Ok, this is exactly what blacks on USMB do. Instead of staying on topic, they instead want to change the subject to dysfunctional white people. Why do blacks get so defensive when white people point out their bad behavior? Colombine shooters and Sandy Hook shooters have nothing to do with the topic of bad black behavior. And it seems blacks teach their kids this bad behavior very young. Then defend them when they get in trouble. Then cry racism.

Quanell X then replied. “Don’t tell me a damn thing about the black culture and kids in school when it’s white boys who go in school and murder all kinds of innocent people. Don’t tell me that! We need to study these fanatic white boys!”

I don't know why I got an alert on this but no I don't agree this is a racial incident. I see no such indication.

Is Ben Fields a racist? I don't know that and nothing in these videos suggests either way. What I do see is egregious brutality and endangerment against peaceful citizens, and that's what this is all about. What he's doing is obediently, even slavishly, following the Warrior Cop model that's been infiltrating police like a cancer.

I don't believe this Warrior Cop Culture is white supremacist. I think it's police-supremacist. It sees itself as a military class, superior to the rest of us the unwashed, who it views as an enemy to be vanquished. It's visited on blacks, Hispanics, whites and even women. And here, as in McKinney Texas, it's devolved to attacking teenage girls.

Its victims are not dependent on race but with its view of itself as a "superior" life form it has the same divisive class-mentality as racism does. And that's fucked up. The Warrior Cop is to the general public as the KKK was to black people.

Overall I agree. Cops have militarized and I don't like it either.

But the way the girl acted reminds me of how when prisoners won't leave their cell so the guard bum rush the prisoner. It's not nice. So do what the officer says. But he was way too rough with the kids. I agree he shouldn't work in a school.

What if the next cops a girl and the next kid is a Mike Tyson. Let's roleplay. How would it go down?

If the next (or any) cop were a girl, chances are she'd find a way to think with something besides testosterone.

Nope. Would have encouraged resistance on the part of the punk.

 

[Correll]

With two adult men, no big deal. And he had no trouble throwing her around all alone now did he?

Request a female officer for backup. I think the situation is diffused very quickly. But that would mean the cop actually using his brain. And we know few cops are doing that these days. Their first instinct is to resort to violence. It's their training unfortunately.

And then they would have dragged her out of there together, pretty much the same, and we would be having the same conversation except you libs would be ridiculing him for calling for backup for a "little girl".

Well, we'll never know, huh? The dumb mongoloid blew it. Many other more logical ways to handle this situation. But unfortunately, too many cops are too lazy & dumb to think things through. They resort to violence instead.

Your biased and incorrect generalizations of cops does let us know.

Before you ever saw the video you were that cop's enemy.

Too many dumb lazy morons being given guns & badges. It's a big problem. Most don't even know anything about the Constitution, and don't give a shit. Gotta raise our standards. And we need to stop the Militarization too.

Your biased and incorrect generalization has already been presented as evidence supporting my point.

If they had done as you suggested and brought in a female officer and still ended up removing her by force, you would have still been in a blame the "dumb lazy morons" POV and taken the "little girl's" side.

Except you would be ridiculing the officer for needing to call back up for a little girl.

If you were honest you would admit that.

Are you trying to lie to me, or are you lying to yourself?

 

[Pogo]

29 classmates held hostage, let's present it correctly now.

And btw, if it were me I file charges against her for kidnapping her classmates.

A debate at Fox’s Houston station went off the rails on Tuesday after a white Republican pundit told a black activist that “black culture” caused a cop to body slam a high school girl in South Carolina.

Angela Box argued that Deputy Ben Fields should not have been fired for violently throwing a 16-year-old school girl to the ground because he was “doing his job.”

“It’s time we start addressing the root cause of all this,” she said. “The disrespect of teachers, this Black Lives Matter movement, this perpetual chip on your shoulder against everybody that’s not like yourself. It’s got to stop. We’ve got to address the culture.”

Activist Quanell X then said: “Now for you to say that we need to deal with the culture of black kids in schools,” he noted, taking a deep breath. “Let’s deal with the culture of these crazy fanatic white boys who go in schools with guns and shoot and kill everybody.”

Ok, this is exactly what blacks on USMB do. Instead of staying on topic, they instead want to change the subject to dysfunctional white people. Why do blacks get so defensive when white people point out their bad behavior? Colombine shooters and Sandy Hook shooters have nothing to do with the topic of bad black behavior. And it seems blacks teach their kids this bad behavior very young. Then defend them when they get in trouble. Then cry racism.

Quanell X then replied. “Don’t tell me a damn thing about the black culture and kids in school when it’s white boys who go in school and murder all kinds of innocent people. Don’t tell me that! We need to study these fanatic white boys!”

I don't know why I got an alert on this but no I don't agree this is a racial incident. I see no such indication.

Is Ben Fields a racist? I don't know that and nothing in these videos suggests either way. What I do see is egregious brutality and endangerment against peaceful citizens, and that's what this is all about. What he's doing is obediently, even slavishly, following the Warrior Cop model that's been infiltrating police like a cancer.

I don't believe this Warrior Cop Culture is white supremacist. I think it's police-supremacist. It sees itself as a military class, superior to the rest of us the unwashed, who it views as an enemy to be vanquished. It's visited on blacks, Hispanics, whites and even women. And here, as in McKinney Texas, it's devolved to attacking teenage girls.

Its victims are not dependent on race but with its view of itself as a "superior" life form it has the same divisive class-mentality as racism does. And that's fucked up. The Warrior Cop is to the general public as the KKK was to black people.

Overall I agree. Cops have militarized and I don't like it either.

But the way the girl acted reminds me of how when prisoners won't leave their cell so the guard bum rush the prisoner. It's not nice. So do what the officer says. But he was way too rough with the kids. I agree he shouldn't work in a school.

What if the next cops a girl and the next kid is a Mike Tyson. Let's roleplay. How would it go down?

If the next (or any) cop were a girl, chances are she'd find a way to think with something besides testosterone.

Nope. Would have encouraged resistance on the part of the punk.

There lies your problem right there. You and the rest of the authoritarian-worshiping sycophants: you view everything in terms of Force A overcoming Force B and imagine boiling down to a mathematical equation of "how much force is needed to overcome resistance of B".

These however are humans interacting with humans -- not hammers interacting with nails.

 

[Correll]

And we also have to take into account African American distrust of police. They don't see police the same way most white people do. They see cops shooting and killing them more often than helping them. I'm sure this girl knew what was coming. It happened just as she thought it would.

Maybe they should consider the way "white people" see them?

Or is cultural understanding a one way street with you libs?

Rhetorical question. I know your answer.

African Americans historically, have been given good reason to distrust police. I can't blame em. Horrific things have been done to them over the years.

All you did there was reassert your previous statement without addressing my points at all.

That's not debate, that's propaganda. And a logical fallacy.

I will give you another chance to be a person and not a mindless bot.


Maybe they should consider the way "white people" see them?

Or is cultural understanding a one way street with you libs?

Rhetorical question. I know your answer

Pretty sure you aren't African American. Go ask some about their past experiences with law enforcement. They don't see police helping them. They see them harming them most of the time. Historically, the police have done heinous things to them. I can't blame them for feeling the way they do.

I admit I was wrong in predicting your answer. I was sure you were going to play the Race Card.

Instead, you simply repeated your previous point without responding to anything in my post.

THis is the Logical Fallacy of Proof By Assertion and is a type of propaganda.

 

[Correll]

A debate at Fox’s Houston station went off the rails on Tuesday after a white Republican pundit told a black activist that “black culture” caused a cop to body slam a high school girl in South Carolina.

Angela Box argued that Deputy Ben Fields should not have been fired for violently throwing a 16-year-old school girl to the ground because he was “doing his job.”

“It’s time we start addressing the root cause of all this,” she said. “The disrespect of teachers, this Black Lives Matter movement, this perpetual chip on your shoulder against everybody that’s not like yourself. It’s got to stop. We’ve got to address the culture.”

Activist Quanell X then said: “Now for you to say that we need to deal with the culture of black kids in schools,” he noted, taking a deep breath. “Let’s deal with the culture of these crazy fanatic white boys who go in schools with guns and shoot and kill everybody.”

Ok, this is exactly what blacks on USMB do. Instead of staying on topic, they instead want to change the subject to dysfunctional white people. Why do blacks get so defensive when white people point out their bad behavior? Colombine shooters and Sandy Hook shooters have nothing to do with the topic of bad black behavior. And it seems blacks teach their kids this bad behavior very young. Then defend them when they get in trouble. Then cry racism.

Quanell X then replied. “Don’t tell me a damn thing about the black culture and kids in school when it’s white boys who go in school and murder all kinds of innocent people. Don’t tell me that! We need to study these fanatic white boys!”

I don't know why I got an alert on this but no I don't agree this is a racial incident. I see no such indication.

Is Ben Fields a racist? I don't know that and nothing in these videos suggests either way. What I do see is egregious brutality and endangerment against peaceful citizens, and that's what this is all about. What he's doing is obediently, even slavishly, following the Warrior Cop model that's been infiltrating police like a cancer.

I don't believe this Warrior Cop Culture is white supremacist. I think it's police-supremacist. It sees itself as a military class, superior to the rest of us the unwashed, who it views as an enemy to be vanquished. It's visited on blacks, Hispanics, whites and even women. And here, as in McKinney Texas, it's devolved to attacking teenage girls.

Its victims are not dependent on race but with its view of itself as a "superior" life form it has the same divisive class-mentality as racism does. And that's fucked up. The Warrior Cop is to the general public as the KKK was to black people.

Overall I agree. Cops have militarized and I don't like it either.

But the way the girl acted reminds me of how when prisoners won't leave their cell so the guard bum rush the prisoner. It's not nice. So do what the officer says. But he was way too rough with the kids. I agree he shouldn't work in a school.

What if the next cops a girl and the next kid is a Mike Tyson. Let's roleplay. How would it go down?

If the next (or any) cop were a girl, chances are she'd find a way to think with something besides testosterone.

Nope. Would have encouraged resistance on the part of the punk.

There lies your problem right there. You and the rest of the authoritarian-worshiping sycophants: you view everything in terms of Force A overcoming Force B and imagine boiling down to a mathematical equation of "how much force is needed to overcome resistance of B".

These however are humans interacting with humans -- not hammers interacting with nails.

No, my "problem" is that I recognize that when a human is determined to cause trouble, you can't stop them. The punk had already told her friends to get their cell phones ready. She was planning of causing trouble.

A weaker Authority figure would only have been a plus for her plan.

 

[Correll]

The dumbass lacked the ability to think and reason, And he was lazy too. That's why he chose violence. And now he's no longer a cop. He shouldn't have ever been one in the first place.

Hey jackass! You STILL can't offer us even 1 alternative solution he should've used? You said there are "many, numerous" better methods.

But when pushed to name just 2 or 3....you run and hide. Sad. It really is.


He's gonna win a wrongful termination lawsuit and be working for Lexington County Sheriff within 2 years. Bank on it.

Not a chance, that video seals the deal, obvious excessive use of force when she wasn't even under arrest. Hid career is over, and should be. You can't have someone like that with a gun as an authority.

As for other options:

Bring in her "parents".
Wait until she got up herself.
Wait until she got bored, or needed the bathroom, she would have eventually.
Clear the room and just talk with her.
Clear the room except for a friend of hers.
Bring in a professional mental health specialists.
etc.

None of those you will approve of because you approve of using force, against what's more or less still a child...

Hahaha!! What a stupid list. You'd let that little bitch hold the entire class hostage hahaha!!

Call parents? They disowned her already remember?
Wait her out? So....rules are optional huh.
Move everyone else? So she refuses to leave...so we make everyone else? What if her friends then refuse to leave too??
Call in a mental health professional? FOR WHAT?? "Sir...here's the problem....she won't get up. Yes...yes that's all."

Doing things your way would eventually lead to the schools effectiveness grinding to a halt as students slowly take over the day to day ongoings.

Or in other words....turning into a ghetto shithole school.

Und ghetto ist verboten! Ve vill haff Order! Und ve vill crush ze skulls of zose who resist!

Bucs and Deputy Goosestep in a strategy meeting yesterday​

The Republican Party Base at this point. Buncha Walmart-shopping Camo-Wearing racist diphits. Without em, the Republican Party would be dead.

Hey, buddy, this is for you.

 

[Correll]

For those that wonder what could cause a Police Officer to throw an attacking student...

Simply watch this video:



Now you know how that happens. The product of sub-human reasoning (Progressivism) is set upon civil society... . The Police Officer, is civil society solving the problem.

See how that works?

Why didn't that teacher "engage" or "understand" that student?

Better yet, where was the principal? Cop is called to a classroom and no principal shows up? What kind of school they runnen?

I guess one where either having cops deal with students is normal, or one where the administrator knows enough to keep his distance so he can throw his underlings under the bus to save his ass.

 

[Correll]

3. Not a factor in Law Enforcement Procedure that I have ever heard. She hit him, boom justification.

Got your "she hit him" moment right here, you dishonest fucking cop-knob-gobbler hack. I found a still:

Why look at that, you're right -- she may be actually coming into contact there with his right upper arm. The one that's got her in a choke hold.

No, that's not a "lateral" trajectory at all. Why I bet he's got a broken humerus, probably a shoulder separation too.

Why that's WAY worse than a simple, I dunno, being flipped over backward in your own desk and thrown against a wall. Jeepers that's brutal.

Poor Officer Goon -- they may have to amputate.

Of course, there's the little inconvenience of linear time, under which he's already inconveniently attacking her BEFORE this viscous, devastating, arm-shattering blow.

Ooopsie.

Dishonest fucking HACK.

My understanding of police procedure, which you kept harping on, is that even the threat of assault justify force in response.

Law enforcement is under no obligation to hold their force in check because the force used against them is not effective.

So, are you arguing procedure or not?

Seems you keep jumping around to find rationalizations for your anti-cop reflexive stance.

 

[Pogo]

And we also have to take into account African American distrust of police. They don't see police the same way most white people do. They see cops shooting and killing them more often than helping them. I'm sure this girl knew what was coming. It happened just as she thought it would.

Maybe they should consider the way "white people" see them?

Or is cultural understanding a one way street with you libs?

Rhetorical question. I know your answer.

African Americans historically, have been given good reason to distrust police. I can't blame em. Horrific things have been done to them over the years.

All you did there was reassert your previous statement without addressing my points at all.

That's not debate, that's propaganda. And a logical fallacy.

I will give you another chance to be a person and not a mindless bot.


Maybe they should consider the way "white people" see them?

Or is cultural understanding a one way street with you libs?

Rhetorical question. I know your answer

Pretty sure you aren't African American. Go ask some about their past experiences with law enforcement. They don't see police helping them. They see them harming them most of the time. Historically, the police have done heinous things to them. I can't blame them for feeling the way they do.

I admit I was wrong in predicting your answer. I was sure you were going to play the Race Card.

Instead, you simply repeated your previous point without responding to anything in my post.

THis is the Logical Fallacy of Proof By Assertion and is a type of propaganda.

You seem to have received some kinda new "find the fallacy" toy for your birthday and it apparently came without batteries.

Your opponent above is offering an opinion. Opinions aren't subject to "proof" and "disproof".

Better ride with training wheels until you stop falling over.

 

[Pogo]

I don't know why I got an alert on this but no I don't agree this is a racial incident. I see no such indication.

Is Ben Fields a racist? I don't know that and nothing in these videos suggests either way. What I do see is egregious brutality and endangerment against peaceful citizens, and that's what this is all about. What he's doing is obediently, even slavishly, following the Warrior Cop model that's been infiltrating police like a cancer.

I don't believe this Warrior Cop Culture is white supremacist. I think it's police-supremacist. It sees itself as a military class, superior to the rest of us the unwashed, who it views as an enemy to be vanquished. It's visited on blacks, Hispanics, whites and even women. And here, as in McKinney Texas, it's devolved to attacking teenage girls.

Its victims are not dependent on race but with its view of itself as a "superior" life form it has the same divisive class-mentality as racism does. And that's fucked up. The Warrior Cop is to the general public as the KKK was to black people.

Overall I agree. Cops have militarized and I don't like it either.

But the way the girl acted reminds me of how when prisoners won't leave their cell so the guard bum rush the prisoner. It's not nice. So do what the officer says. But he was way too rough with the kids. I agree he shouldn't work in a school.

What if the next cops a girl and the next kid is a Mike Tyson. Let's roleplay. How would it go down?

If the next (or any) cop were a girl, chances are she'd find a way to think with something besides testosterone.

Nope. Would have encouraged resistance on the part of the punk.

There lies your problem right there. You and the rest of the authoritarian-worshiping sycophants: you view everything in terms of Force A overcoming Force B and imagine boiling down to a mathematical equation of "how much force is needed to overcome resistance of B".

These however are humans interacting with humans -- not hammers interacting with nails.

No, my "problem" is that I recognize that when a human is determined to cause trouble, you can't stop them. The punk had already told her friends to get their cell phones ready. She was planning of causing trouble.

A weaker Authority figure would only have been a plus for her plan.

You just confirmed everything I just said. Thanks for that.

 

[Correll]

Mainstream

I'm betting it's going to be better managed from here on out eh?

Again, so where are the policies? What did he violate? I laugh at the lack of any formal procedures to detail what the cop did outside of no policy? Again as I stated many many times here, it was an ambush.

The policy is Excessive Use of Force, for which, if you do that as in this case, you can be fired. Pretty simple actually.

sure post it up, let's see what kind of force and where's the school authority?

Excuse me, but are you just trying to be dumb? Why don't you call up the new guy and ask him if he would ever do anything like that?

School Resource Officers

Posted a ways back --

"Yesterday’s incident was an outrageous exception to the culture, conduct and standards in which we so strongly believe in in this district. ... What happened yesterday – what we all watched on that shamefully shocking video – is reprehensible, unforgivable and inconsistent with everything that this district stands for, what we work for and what we aspire to be. ... The safety and the dignity of our students is our highest priority.” -- School Board Chairman James Manning

“In a situation like yesterday, you see the sheer painfulness of watching it, and as it went on, it’s really upsetting – incredibly upsetting. Maybe like you, it hit me in the gut. ... Our district and our school have zero tolerance for what occurred. I personally have zero tolerance as well. I think of our 2,000 students as my own.” -- Spring Valley Principal Jeff Temoney

“I am greatly concerned by these videos. The safety of our students is always our No. 1 priority. School districts contract with hundreds of dedicated school resource officers who work hard to protect our students across South Carolina. However, these videos and what they appear to show should concern all of us in public education. While it is vital that students have respect for law enforcement, it is equally important that law enforcement ensure they do not abuse the power and trust school districts instill in them.

“I am pleased that Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott has moved quickly to place the officer on unpaid leave and initiate a thorough investigation of the officer involved, by reaching out to both the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the U.S. Department of Justice. Richland School District 2’s Superintendent Dr. Debbie Hamm has acted swiftly to ensure that pending the result of the investigation, the officer will not be working within any of the district’s schools. This matter must be investigated thoroughly and appropriate action taken.” --- Molly Spearman, SC State Superintendent of Education

“There is no justification whatsoever for treating a child like this. Regardless of the reason for the officer’s actions, such egregious use of force – against young people who are sitting in their classrooms – is outrageous. School should be a place to learn and grow, not a place to be brutalized. We must take action to address the criminalization of children in South Carolina, especially at school.” -- Victoria Middleton, SC ACLU

(collected here)

​

Doesn't appear the fascist bootlickers have a whole lotta support from those connected to the event.

And how was that NOT an Appeal to Authority?

 

[Pogo]

My understanding of police procedure, which you kept harping on, is that even the threat of assault justify force in response.

It may be, though exactly WHO determines whether said threat exists is problematic ("I felt threatened"... ). But that's irrelevant here as I've just demonstrated that (a) there is no such threat, and (b) the ineffectual flailing you're trying so desperately to make into an "assault" -- happens AFTER Deputy Knuckldragger is already chokeholding her.

To wit -- the still picture above immediately follows this --- the first move by either party:

Law enforcement is under no obligation to hold their force in check because the force used against them is not effective.

May be, but they are under obligation to hold their force in check because the force used against them HASN'T EVEN OCCURRED YET -- if it in fact occurs at all. Sorry, "I felt threatened" doesn't make for a reality. The fact that this alleged "assault" (by her on him, the imaginary one) also fails to occur in the future, makes your entire basis here untenable.

Sucks to be your bullshit argument.

So, are you arguing procedure or not?

See above. What part of linear time don't you grok?

 

[Correll]

Maybe they should consider the way "white people" see them?

Or is cultural understanding a one way street with you libs?

Rhetorical question. I know your answer.

African Americans historically, have been given good reason to distrust police. I can't blame em. Horrific things have been done to them over the years.

All you did there was reassert your previous statement without addressing my points at all.

That's not debate, that's propaganda. And a logical fallacy.

I will give you another chance to be a person and not a mindless bot.


Maybe they should consider the way "white people" see them?

Or is cultural understanding a one way street with you libs?

Rhetorical question. I know your answer

Pretty sure you aren't African American. Go ask some about their past experiences with law enforcement. They don't see police helping them. They see them harming them most of the time. Historically, the police have done heinous things to them. I can't blame them for feeling the way they do.

I admit I was wrong in predicting your answer. I was sure you were going to play the Race Card.

Instead, you simply repeated your previous point without responding to anything in my post.

THis is the Logical Fallacy of Proof By Assertion and is a type of propaganda.

You seem to have received some kinda new "find the fallacy" toy for your birthday and it apparently came without batteries.

Your opponent above is offering an opinion. Opinions aren't subject to "proof" and "disproof".

Better ride with training wheels until you stop falling over.

And I responded to that opinion seriously and honestly.

And he ignored what I said and simply repeated himself, without addressing my response at all.

THat's a dishonest and disrespectful asshole move. I am being polite in referring to it as a Logical Fallacy, which it is.

I did not request "proof". I requested a reply. As per normal civil discourse.

BTW, your pretense that I was complaining about not having "proof"?

Strawman Logical Fallacy.

And your ridicule?

Another one.

Logical Fallacy of Appeal to Ridicule.

Why do I do this so much?

Wrong question.

The real question is why is nearly everything you lefties say a Logical Fallacy?

 

[Correll]

Overall I agree. Cops have militarized and I don't like it either.

But the way the girl acted reminds me of how when prisoners won't leave their cell so the guard bum rush the prisoner. It's not nice. So do what the officer says. But he was way too rough with the kids. I agree he shouldn't work in a school.

What if the next cops a girl and the next kid is a Mike Tyson. Let's roleplay. How would it go down?

If the next (or any) cop were a girl, chances are she'd find a way to think with something besides testosterone.

Nope. Would have encouraged resistance on the part of the punk.

There lies your problem right there. You and the rest of the authoritarian-worshiping sycophants: you view everything in terms of Force A overcoming Force B and imagine boiling down to a mathematical equation of "how much force is needed to overcome resistance of B".

These however are humans interacting with humans -- not hammers interacting with nails.

No, my "problem" is that I recognize that when a human is determined to cause trouble, you can't stop them. The punk had already told her friends to get their cell phones ready. She was planning of causing trouble.

A weaker Authority figure would only have been a plus for her plan.

You just confirmed everything I just said. Thanks for that.

Female cops do not solve problems better than male cops because of less testosterone. They get injured more, and have to resort to weapons more and hurt people more, because "humans" who are punks and thugs respect Authority only if it is backed up by force.