Palestine Today

[P F Tinmore]

Your map is incorrect. All of Palestine has been occupied since 1917.

 

[Mindful]

That kind of talk still wouldn't have saved him, in a different time, a different era. How naive can one be?

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ Toddsterpatriot, P F Tinmore,, et al,

Yes, this is the two-fold argument based on the:

◈ Strict application of proportional response,

◈ Utilization of civilians to shield and render certain hostile points immune from military retaliation,​

The arguments are on a very single and simplistic level.

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Chumpsky.

(COMMENT)

You will notice that, the first part of the argument is based on the chivalry of a duel. That is if the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) fire a single Qassam Rocket, the Israelis can only fire a Qassam Rocket back. That is stupid. No country in the world gives-up its combat superiority because the hostile force is inferior.

✪ Just because the HoAP does not have a Navy or an Army --- heavy weapons or artillery → does not mean that Israel must give up its advantages.​

The second part of the argument is base on the notion that the citizenry, that supports and sustains the HoAP, can act as a shield for a launch site for the Qassam Rockets and that the HoAP may fire as many Rockets they wish without fear of retaliation because the civilians that support and sustains the HoAP are in close proximity.

✪ The fault is that the HoAP must avoid locating military objectives within or near densely populated areas.

✪ The second fault in the argument is that the HoAP must remove civilians from the vicinity of HoAP operations.

✪ Just because the HoAP use civilians to shield, conseal, hide or disguise the presence of HoAP operations. Civilian casualties must have a military objective. Each time the HoAP fires a rocket into Israel, it is indiscriminte fire.​

Dr Chomsky thinks that a battlefield is fair. It is not. For most countries, the military force is to protect and defend.

Most Respectfully,
R

and that the HoAP may fire as many Rockets they wish without fear of retaliation because the civilians that support and sustains the HoAP are in close proximity.

Very shallow thinking on your part, Rocco, how can you regurgitate such obvious bullshit. Why should the Palestinians employ a tactic that does not work? Never has.

Israel will mow down thousands of civilians to kill a couple hundred "terrorists." Israel will flatten entire neighborhoods because their might be a few "terrorists" in there. Israel flattens entire neighborhoods because that is what they want to do. "Terrorists" is just their lame excuse.

You need to get off this human shield propaganda canard.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ Toddsterpatriot, P F Tinmore,, et al,

Yes, this is the two-fold argument based on the:

◈ Strict application of proportional response,

◈ Utilization of civilians to shield and render certain hostile points immune from military retaliation,​

The arguments are on a very single and simplistic level.

View attachment 250807​

Chumpsky.

(COMMENT)

You will notice that, the first part of the argument is based on the chivalry of a duel. That is if the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) fire a single Qassam Rocket, the Israelis can only fire a Qassam Rocket back. That is stupid. No country in the world gives-up its combat superiority because the hostile force is inferior.

✪ Just because the HoAP does not have a Navy or an Army --- heavy weapons or artillery → does not mean that Israel must give up its advantages.​

The second part of the argument is base on the notion that the citizenry, that supports and sustains the HoAP, can act as a shield for a launch site for the Qassam Rockets and that the HoAP may fire as many Rockets they wish without fear of retaliation because the civilians that support and sustains the HoAP are in close proximity.

✪ The fault is that the HoAP must avoid locating military objectives within or near densely populated areas.

✪ The second fault in the argument is that the HoAP must remove civilians from the vicinity of HoAP operations.

✪ Just because the HoAP use civilians to shield, conseal, hide or disguise the presence of HoAP operations. Civilian casualties must have a military objective. Each time the HoAP fires a rocket into Israel, it is indiscriminte fire.​

Dr Chomsky thinks that a battlefield is fair. It is not. For most countries, the military force is to protect and defend.

Most Respectfully,
R

Each time the HoAP fires a rocket into Israel, it is indiscriminte fire.

Israel and Palestine are the same. Israel fires in the direction that the rockets come from, and the Palestinians fire in the direction that the airplanes and tanks come from. Neither one has any consideration for any civilians. False argument.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ Toddsterpatriot, P F Tinmore,, et al,

Yes, this is the two-fold argument based on the:

◈ Strict application of proportional response,

◈ Utilization of civilians to shield and render certain hostile points immune from military retaliation,​

The arguments are on a very single and simplistic level.

View attachment 250807​

Chumpsky.

(COMMENT)

You will notice that, the first part of the argument is based on the chivalry of a duel. That is if the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) fire a single Qassam Rocket, the Israelis can only fire a Qassam Rocket back. That is stupid. No country in the world gives-up its combat superiority because the hostile force is inferior.

✪ Just because the HoAP does not have a Navy or an Army --- heavy weapons or artillery → does not mean that Israel must give up its advantages.​

The second part of the argument is base on the notion that the citizenry, that supports and sustains the HoAP, can act as a shield for a launch site for the Qassam Rockets and that the HoAP may fire as many Rockets they wish without fear of retaliation because the civilians that support and sustains the HoAP are in close proximity.

✪ The fault is that the HoAP must avoid locating military objectives within or near densely populated areas.

✪ The second fault in the argument is that the HoAP must remove civilians from the vicinity of HoAP operations.

✪ Just because the HoAP use civilians to shield, conseal, hide or disguise the presence of HoAP operations. Civilian casualties must have a military objective. Each time the HoAP fires a rocket into Israel, it is indiscriminte fire.​

Dr Chomsky thinks that a battlefield is fair. It is not. For most countries, the military force is to protect and defend.

Most Respectfully,
R

You keep forgetting that the initial aggression came from the Zionists.

 

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[tommyboy80]

no such thing as palestinians

 

[tommyboy80]

God gave Israel to the Jews. not you fucking arab terrorist animals

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[rylah]

Your map is incorrect. All of Palestine has been occupied since 1917.

Before 1917 it wasn't Arab sovereign land neither.
But tell me, how was the Ottoman and the Arab occupation different?

 

[rylah]

 

[Mindful]

It's not about the land.

The creation of the State of Israel in 1948 didn’t take a significant amount of land from Middle Eastern Arabs. Israel comprises 0.2 percent of the Middle East’s land mass. (That’s two-tenths of one percent!) Clearly, that tiny sliver of land that is Israel is not a significant amount of real estate. Even when Israel relinquished the Gaza Strip to be ruled by the Palestinian Authority in exchange for peace, the promised peace never materialized. Under Hamas’ rule, Gaza has deteriorated substantially since the 2005 agreement, while its government invests resources to build up arms for attacking Israel rather than improving the quality of life for its citizens.

It’s not about dispossession of a Palestinian people
Palestinian Arabs are not a separate people group. They have no distinguishing cultural identity setting them apart from other Arabs, and there is no distinctly Palestinian language. Palestinians are Arabs living in a region formerly known as Judea. They are no more distinct as a people from other Arabs in the Middle East than are residents of the state of Wisconsin distinct from residents of Iowa.

Where Did It All Start? The Origins of the Arab-Israeli Conflict | Jewish Voice Ministries International

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore,, et al,

Yeah, you think it is shollowthinking on my part, but it's not.

Very shallow thinking on your part, Rocco, how can you regurgitate such obvious bullshit. Why should the Palestinians employ a tactic that does not work? Never has.

Israel will mow down thousands of civilians to kill a couple hundred "terrorists." Israel will flatten entire neighborhoods because there might be a few "terrorists" in there. Israel flattens entire neighborhoods because that is what they want to do. "Terrorists" is just their lame excuse.

You need to get off this human shield propaganda canard.

(COMMENT)

• The tactic is still used, and still working every day. As an example, the HAMAS operatives are among the rioters on the border. The use of the Gazan civilian population as human shields: each time the shield fails and civilians suffer casualties, these casualties are used as propaganda props and the focus of anti-Israeli news articles.

HAMAS Systematic Use of Civilians to Promote Terrorism
by Yaakov Lappin
Special to IPT News
March 4, 2019
• See LINK for complete Article •
​

It is not propaganda if it is true.

The Court of Justice of the European Union declares that the General Court should not have annulled
HAMAS’ retention on the European list of terrorist organizations
and refers the case back to the General Court
​

The more people attempt to support and defend HAMAS as something other than a "Terrorist Organization," or engaging in political advocacy, the great the need becomes to correct the impression that the status of HAMAS as a terrorist organization is debatable or questionable. Such political advocacy for HAMAS is merely skirting the law on providing material support.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

The tactic is still used, and still working every day. As an example, the HAMAS operatives are among the rioters on the border. The use of the Gazan civilian population as human shields: each time the shield fails and civilians suffer casualties, these casualties are used as propaganda props and the focus of anti-Israeli news articles.

Who are they shielding? I have seen no Hamas flags, no uniforms, no guns.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore,, et al,

Yeah, you think it is shollowthinking on my part, but it's not.

Very shallow thinking on your part, Rocco, how can you regurgitate such obvious bullshit. Why should the Palestinians employ a tactic that does not work? Never has.

Israel will mow down thousands of civilians to kill a couple hundred "terrorists." Israel will flatten entire neighborhoods because there might be a few "terrorists" in there. Israel flattens entire neighborhoods because that is what they want to do. "Terrorists" is just their lame excuse.

You need to get off this human shield propaganda canard.

(COMMENT)

• The tactic is still used, and still working every day. As an example, the HAMAS operatives are among the rioters on the border. The use of the Gazan civilian population as human shields: each time the shield fails and civilians suffer casualties, these casualties are used as propaganda props and the focus of anti-Israeli news articles.

View attachment 250855

HAMAS Systematic Use of Civilians to Promote Terrorism
by Yaakov Lappin
Special to IPT News
March 4, 2019
• See LINK for complete Article •
​

It is not propaganda if it is true.

The Court of Justice of the European Union declares that the General Court should not have annulled
HAMAS’ retention on the European list of terrorist organizations
and refers the case back to the General Court
​

The more people attempt to support and defend HAMAS as something other than a "Terrorist Organization," or engaging in political advocacy, the great the need becomes to correct the impression that the status of HAMAS as a terrorist organization is debatable or questionable. Such political advocacy for HAMAS is merely skirting the law on providing material support.

Most Respectfully,
R

Ah, Israel's old terrorist canard. All colonialists use the same shtick.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The tactic is still used, and still working every day. As an example, the HAMAS operatives are among the rioters on the border. The use of the Gazan civilian population as human shields: each time the shield fails and civilians suffer casualties, these casualties are used as propaganda props and the focus of anti-Israeli news articles.

Who are they shielding? I have seen no Hamas flags, no uniforms, no guns.

OMG! Terrorists with no flags or uniforms...….ridiculous!!

 

[Mindful]

The tactic is still used, and still working every day. As an example, the HAMAS operatives are among the rioters on the border. The use of the Gazan civilian population as human shields: each time the shield fails and civilians suffer casualties, these casualties are used as propaganda props and the focus of anti-Israeli news articles.

Who are they shielding? I have seen no Hamas flags, no uniforms, no guns.

OMG! Terrorists with no flags or uniforms...….ridiculous!!

Yeah. There's just been one on a Dutch tram in Utrecht. Dressed like everyone else.