Parler CEO Says Parler May Be Offline Longer Than Expected -- Why Didn't We Let The Free Market Decide???

[Indeependent]

Parler CEO says app will be offline 'longer than expected' because of Amazon, Apple and Google

Parler, a social media app popular with conservatives and supporters of President Donald Trump, has gone offline.

www.cnbc.com

"Parler has gone offline after Amazon withdrew its support in the wake of the deadly U.S. Capitol riot last week. The app was reliant on cloud computing power provided by Amazon Web Services. John Matze, the founder and CEO, said in a statement on Monday that the Parler app will be down “longer than expected” because other cloud hosting companies do not want to work with Parler in light of the press statements issued by Amazon, Google and Apple."

What these big tech companies are doing is outrageous -- it is flat out socialism communism fascism Orwellian government censorship.....Why didn't the radical leftist Democrats who control big Tech just allow the free markets to decide -- instead of having people like Biden and Pelosi decide who Twitter or Facebook can or can't have on their platform - why didn't they just allow the free market to decide?? -- That is the problem when you have big government get involved with what private businesses can or can't do -- you get communism....

This shouldn't be a left or right issue (except that the right should be able to dictate what the left does or can't do) --- this should be a bipartisan issue -- we should allow free markets to have control over social media, not big government -- and the best way to do that is to nationalize Facebook and Twitter and declare them public commodities and let Trump and others he appoints decide who and who can't have access -- we should also break up Google and Amazon because these corporations have been too successful at gaining a near monopoly -- and breaking up monopolies is totally a function of a free market....In fact, we wouldn't have all of these large media, pharma and agricultural corporate conglomerates if we just allowed free markets to decide...Just think how much better something like healthcare would be if we just nationalized it and declared it a public commodity like the free market demands...

Amazon broke their contract, they will pay through the nose.

They are also going to get hit with an anti-trust lawsuit for colluding with Google and Apple to suppress competition.

I don't know...our justices seem to be terrified.

 

[Bryan Luhning]

So you are ok with censorship and having you first amendment rights squashed?

Let me know where the first amendment says you have the right to post on Twitter. Let me know where the first amendment says you have a right to use AWS.

It doesn't. You want to speak, go to the street corner and speak. No one will censor you and if they try I'll back contribute to your legal costs to fight them.

The social media sites are the analog of a community. But if your community leaders try to shut down your speech that would violate your first amendment rights. So yes I believe the idea that the platform can silence an idea is barbaric.

You don't understand private property rights. Start your own platform and accept your liability .

I don’t have the right to own city hall either but that does not give them the right to kill free speech.

 

[dblack]

So you are ok with censorship and having you first amendment rights squashed?

Let me know where the first amendment says you have the right to post on Twitter. Let me know where the first amendment says you have a right to use AWS.

It doesn't. You want to speak, go to the street corner and speak. No one will censor you and if they try I'll back contribute to your legal costs to fight them.

The social media sites are the analog of a community. But if your community leaders try to shut down your speech that would violate your first amendment rights. So yes I believe the idea that the platform can silence an idea is barbaric.

You don't understand private property rights. Start your own platform and accept your liability .

Few do. Most people just want to use the government to get one over on the other guy.

 

[Asclepias]

I notice you aren't linking them, why?

Violence is violence, why is the left getting a pass and not the right?

ANSWER IT YOU GUTLESS COWARD

Why aren't I linking posts from Parler? Is that a serious question? The site is down.

Violence is violence. Getting in someone's face isn't actually violence. Show me the posts that call for the death of Trump that aren't moderated off these platforms.

Go on. Just one little "death to Trump" post.

Here's another from Parler: “On January 20th we need to start systematicly [sic] assassinating [sic] #liberal leaders, liberal activists, #blm leaders and supporters, members of the #nba #nfl #mlb #nhl #mainstreammedia anchors and correspondents and #antifa. I already have a news worthy event planned.”

Someone should have a screenshot, twitchy does it all the time for lefty violence posts taken down by the posters.

Why going all the way to death? Trying to excuse good old fashioned threats of confrontational violence on the left?

Still up:

"Burn in hell" isnt a threat

 

[BlueGin]

It's amazing how much extreme Libertarians like you are willing to take it in the ass on your "principles"

Thank you.

We do try to stick to our principles, even when doing so isn't personally convenient, or might benefit people we don't like. That's how freedom works.

More like they just like being sanctimonious. While not having to do anything.

 

[surada]

So you are ok with censorship and having you first amendment rights squashed?

Let me know where the first amendment says you have the right to post on Twitter. Let me know where the first amendment says you have a right to use AWS.

It doesn't. You want to speak, go to the street corner and speak. No one will censor you and if they try I'll back contribute to your legal costs to fight them.

The social media sites are the analog of a community. But if your community leaders try to shut down your speech that would violate your first amendment rights. So yes I believe the idea that the platform can silence an idea is barbaric.

You don't understand private property rights. Start your own platform and accept your liability .

I don’t have the right to own city hall either but that does not give them the right to kill free speech.

Then start your own platform and accept your liability for promoting lies and violence.

 

[Bryan Luhning]

So you are ok with censorship and having you first amendment rights squashed?

Let me know where the first amendment says you have the right to post on Twitter. Let me know where the first amendment says you have a right to use AWS.

It doesn't. You want to speak, go to the street corner and speak. No one will censor you and if they try I'll back contribute to your legal costs to fight them.

The social media sites are the analog of a community. But if your community leaders try to shut down your speech that would violate your first amendment rights. So yes I believe the idea that the platform can silence an idea is barbaric.

You don't understand private property rights. Start your own platform and accept your liability .

I don’t have the right to own city hall either but that does not give them the right to kill free speech.

Then start your own platform and accept your liability for promoting lies and violence.

Section 240 exempts platform and puts it squarely on the use so why the censorship?

 

[surada]

So you are ok with censorship and having you first amendment rights squashed?

Let me know where the first amendment says you have the right to post on Twitter. Let me know where the first amendment says you have a right to use AWS.

It doesn't. You want to speak, go to the street corner and speak. No one will censor you and if they try I'll back contribute to your legal costs to fight them.

The social media sites are the analog of a community. But if your community leaders try to shut down your speech that would violate your first amendment rights. So yes I believe the idea that the platform can silence an idea is barbaric.

You don't understand private property rights. Start your own platform and accept your liability .

I don’t have the right to own city hall either but that does not give them the right to kill free speech.

Then start your own platform and accept your liability for promoting lies and violence.

Section 240 exempts platform and puts it squarely on the use so why the censorship?

The platforms are NOT owned by the government.. They don't owe you a venue for lies and calls for violence.

Try this.. Do your lying, hateful calls for violence and submit it to your local newspaper.

Don't you know right from wrong?

 

[martybegan]

I notice you aren't linking them, why?

Violence is violence, why is the left getting a pass and not the right?

ANSWER IT YOU GUTLESS COWARD

Why aren't I linking posts from Parler? Is that a serious question? The site is down.

Violence is violence. Getting in someone's face isn't actually violence. Show me the posts that call for the death of Trump that aren't moderated off these platforms.

Go on. Just one little "death to Trump" post.

Here's another from Parler: “On January 20th we need to start systematicly [sic] assassinating [sic] #liberal leaders, liberal activists, #blm leaders and supporters, members of the #nba #nfl #mlb #nhl #mainstreammedia anchors and correspondents and #antifa. I already have a news worthy event planned.”

Someone should have a screenshot, twitchy does it all the time for lefty violence posts taken down by the posters.

Why going all the way to death? Trying to excuse good old fashioned threats of confrontational violence on the left?

Still up:

You see, according to Leftists, attacking non-politicians and non-political structures is not a bad thing.

Yep, "They have insurance"

 

[martybegan]

I notice you aren't linking them, why?

Violence is violence, why is the left getting a pass and not the right?

ANSWER IT YOU GUTLESS COWARD

Why aren't I linking posts from Parler? Is that a serious question? The site is down.

Violence is violence. Getting in someone's face isn't actually violence. Show me the posts that call for the death of Trump that aren't moderated off these platforms.

Go on. Just one little "death to Trump" post.

Here's another from Parler: “On January 20th we need to start systematicly [sic] assassinating [sic] #liberal leaders, liberal activists, #blm leaders and supporters, members of the #nba #nfl #mlb #nhl #mainstreammedia anchors and correspondents and #antifa. I already have a news worthy event planned.”

Someone should have a screenshot, twitchy does it all the time for lefty violence posts taken down by the posters.

Why going all the way to death? Trying to excuse good old fashioned threats of confrontational violence on the left?

Still up:

"Burn in hell" isnt a threat

Dodge, duck, dip dive and dodge.

 

[Bryan Luhning]

That's where it is leading to.

Why are they removing people and posts that just reference things like QAnon and "Stop the Steal"?

Are those terms now violence?

Ah, so now everything is a "slippery slope" argument. You're backpedaling.

QAnon and Stop the Steal has resulted in a riot and murder at the Capitol building. Or have you been living under a rock?

Jesus, the conspiracies can only go so far before they become dangerous.

They are still investigating exactly what happened at the capital. We probably all agree it was not right but who actually lead the violence has yet to be understood. My best guess is anarchist who revel in dividing our nation.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Parler CEO Says Parler May Be Offline Longer Than Expected -- Why Didn't We Let The Free Market Decide???

thats exactly what happened...

free market decided to kick em off because right wing lunatics are making their customers uncomfortable...

“..... because right wing lunatics are making their customers uncomfortable.”

Businesses should have the right to refuse service to any customer if they feel or assess that those customers are making other customers uncomfortable. It’s not just right wingers who can be lunatics. Blacks, Latinos, Gays, Muslims and other groups can be lunatics as well in a public establishment. Remember that.

 

[Bryan Luhning]

So you are ok with censorship and having you first amendment rights squashed?

Let me know where the first amendment says you have the right to post on Twitter. Let me know where the first amendment says you have a right to use AWS.

It doesn't. You want to speak, go to the street corner and speak. No one will censor you and if they try I'll back contribute to your legal costs to fight them.

The social media sites are the analog of a community. But if your community leaders try to shut down your speech that would violate your first amendment rights. So yes I believe the idea that the platform can silence an idea is barbaric.

You don't understand private property rights. Start your own platform and accept your liability .

I don’t have the right to own city hall either but that does not give them the right to kill free speech.

Then start your own platform and accept your liability for promoting lies and violence.

Section 240 exempts platform and puts it squarely on the use so why the censorship?

The platforms are NOT owned by the government.. They don't owe you a venue for lies and calls for violence.

Try this.. Do your lying, hateful calls for violence and submit it to your local newspaper.

Don't you know right from wrong?

Yes I do and trying to silence a voice is wrong. Look at any society where this has happened, it has not gone well for the people. Information and ideas must see the light of day or the society dies.

 

[colfax_m]

You haven't responded to my comparison to some pretty extreme porn. Is that because you can't answer it without lying or revealing what a fucking hack you are?

Because it's pointless distraction. Comparing threats of violence to pornography isn't in the same category. Furthermore, you are assuming such is present, and I don't know that's true, and I have ZERO interest in asking you to prove it so I just don't care.

Either way, it has nothing to do with the topic which you're doing a pretty bad job sticking to.

 

[colfax_m]

I notice you aren't linking them, why?

Violence is violence, why is the left getting a pass and not the right?

ANSWER IT YOU GUTLESS COWARD

Why aren't I linking posts from Parler? Is that a serious question? The site is down.

Violence is violence. Getting in someone's face isn't actually violence. Show me the posts that call for the death of Trump that aren't moderated off these platforms.

Go on. Just one little "death to Trump" post.

Here's another from Parler: “On January 20th we need to start systematicly [sic] assassinating [sic] #liberal leaders, liberal activists, #blm leaders and supporters, members of the #nba #nfl #mlb #nhl #mainstreammedia anchors and correspondents and #antifa. I already have a news worthy event planned.”

Someone should have a screenshot, twitchy does it all the time for lefty violence posts taken down by the posters.

Why going all the way to death? Trying to excuse good old fashioned threats of confrontational violence on the left?

Still up:

Burn in hell is a death threat?

No. Otherwise my childhood priest was threatening all of our lives when he told us not to masturbate.

 

[colfax_m]

They are still investigating exactly what happened at the capital. We probably all agree it was not right but who actually lead the violence has yet to be understood. My best guess is anarchist who revel in dividing our nation.

No. It was MAGA. It's known. Pretending it's not known is an attempt to cover the truth.

 

[martybegan]

You haven't responded to my comparison to some pretty extreme porn. Is that because you can't answer it without lying or revealing what a fucking hack you are?

Because it's pointless distraction. Comparing threats of violence to pornography isn't in the same category. Furthermore, you are assuming such is present, and I don't know that's true, and I have ZERO interest in asking you to prove it so I just don't care.

Either way, it has nothing to do with the topic which you're doing a pretty bad job sticking to.

its about "support", you brought up the concept, now defend it.

It shows your inconsistency, and you have nothing to respond with.

Now go slink off and sulk.

 

[Bryan Luhning]

You haven't responded to my comparison to some pretty extreme porn. Is that because you can't answer it without lying or revealing what a fucking hack you are?

Because it's pointless distraction. Comparing threats of violence to pornography isn't in the same category. Furthermore, you are assuming such is present, and I don't know that's true, and I have ZERO interest in asking you to prove it so I just don't care.

Either way, it has nothing to do with the topic which you're doing a pretty bad job sticking to.

What specific threat of violence are you referring to? Did you confront the poster and try and change their rhetoric. Maybe the were using hyperbole which seems to flourish on social media. Maybe that is why we need to listen and understand rather than silence.

 

[martybegan]

I notice you aren't linking them, why?

Violence is violence, why is the left getting a pass and not the right?

ANSWER IT YOU GUTLESS COWARD

Why aren't I linking posts from Parler? Is that a serious question? The site is down.

Violence is violence. Getting in someone's face isn't actually violence. Show me the posts that call for the death of Trump that aren't moderated off these platforms.

Go on. Just one little "death to Trump" post.

Here's another from Parler: “On January 20th we need to start systematicly [sic] assassinating [sic] #liberal leaders, liberal activists, #blm leaders and supporters, members of the #nba #nfl #mlb #nhl #mainstreammedia anchors and correspondents and #antifa. I already have a news worthy event planned.”

Someone should have a screenshot, twitchy does it all the time for lefty violence posts taken down by the posters.

Why going all the way to death? Trying to excuse good old fashioned threats of confrontational violence on the left?

Still up:

Burn in hell is a death threat?

No. Otherwise my childhood priest was threatening all of our lives when he told us not to masturbate.

The priest didn't tell YOU to burn in hell, this is what the person said.

and how is it any different than the first parler thing you quoted, but did not link, even screenshot?

 

[colfax_m]

The priest didn't tell YOU to burn in hell, this is what the person said.

Because people don't burn other people in hell, but they sure as hell murder people.