Parler CEO Says Parler May Be Offline Longer Than Expected -- Why Didn't We Let The Free Market Decide???

[martybegan]

People plan murder over facebook via groups, stop facebook?

The difference is that Facebook attempts to moderate and take that stuff down when they find it.

Parler doesn’t. It very vocally advertises that it doesn’t. That’s why it exists in the first place. For people that were kicked off other platforms.

Eh, when they get around to it, and only if it's ordinary decent criminals or right leaning stuff.

And so what if Parler doesn't?

 

[Bryan Luhning]

Parler CEO Says Parler May Be Offline Longer Than Expected -- Why Didn't We Let The Free Market Decide???

thats exactly what happened...

free market decided to kick em off because right wing lunatics are making their customers uncomfortable...

As thousands of voices have been silenced, so to one day Your’s may also be. Totalitarianism is a nasty way to live.

 

[Bryan Luhning]

People plan murder over facebook via groups, stop facebook?

The difference is that Facebook attempts to moderate and take that stuff down when they find it.

Parler doesn’t. It very vocally advertises that it doesn’t. That’s why it exists in the first place. For people that were kicked off other platforms.

So you are ok with censorship and having you first amendment rights squashed? Maybe we should shorten the indoctrination cycle and burn down all libraries on the 20th. If there is no history to learn from there is only the teaching of brother.

 

[colfax_m]

Eh, when they get around to it, and only if it's ordinary decent criminals or right leaning stuff.

And so what if Parler doesn't?

Facebook takes down enormous amounts of material, devoting considerable resources to this task.

Parler doesn't. They intentionally don't.

So again, the question is whether you think businesses are interested in working with a platform that has no interest in moderating violent speech?

 

[colfax_m]

So you are ok with censorship and having you first amendment rights squashed?

Let me know where the first amendment says you have the right to post on Twitter. Let me know where the first amendment says you have a right to use AWS.

It doesn't. You want to speak, go to the street corner and speak. No one will censor you and if they try I'll back contribute to your legal costs to fight them.

 

[martybegan]

Eh, when they get around to it, and only if it's ordinary decent criminals or right leaning stuff.

And so what if Parler doesn't?

Facebook takes down enormous amounts of material, devoting considerable resources to this task.

Parler doesn't. They intentionally don't.

So again, the question is whether you think businesses are interested in working with a platform that has no interest in moderating violent speech?

Facebook puts on a dog and pony show about moderating things like this, but it still happens. But the 2nd they get to ban some conservative, BOOM, off to the races.

Moderating violent speech is just an excuse to eliminate speech you don't like.

 

[martybegan]

So you are ok with censorship and having you first amendment rights squashed?

Let me know where the first amendment says you have the right to post on Twitter. Let me know where the first amendment says you have a right to use AWS.

It doesn't. You want to speak, go to the street corner and speak. No one will censor you and if they try I'll back contribute to your legal costs to fight them.

And then everyone on Twitter and Facebook can claim the left views is the only view because the right views were silenced, while ignoring the fact the right views were silenced.

And that's what the left wants, and that is what you want.

 

[colfax_m]

Facebook puts on a dog and pony show about moderating things like this, but it still happens. But the 2nd they get to ban some conservative, BOOM, off to the races.

Moderating violent speech is just an excuse to eliminate speech you don't like.

Of course it still happens on Facebook because it's an enormous platform with an enormous number of postings and material on it. But they have an infrastructure and a good faith effort to do something about it.

They also have their own servers so they're not dependent on contracts like Parler.

Moderating violent speech is the fundamental issue at play here. You're just making shit up because it suits your needs to feel persecuted.

Snowflake.

 

[colfax_m]

And then everyone on Twitter and Facebook can claim the left views is the only view because the right views were silenced, while ignoring the fact the right views were silenced.

Go ahead and pretend that every conservative has been kicked off Facebook and Twitter. Go ahead. Tell me that's what's happened.

Are you going to do that?

 

[surada]

Parler CEO says app will be offline 'longer than expected' because of Amazon, Apple and Google

Parler, a social media app popular with conservatives and supporters of President Donald Trump, has gone offline.

www.cnbc.com

"Parler has gone offline after Amazon withdrew its support in the wake of the deadly U.S. Capitol riot last week. The app was reliant on cloud computing power provided by Amazon Web Services. John Matze, the founder and CEO, said in a statement on Monday that the Parler app will be down “longer than expected” because other cloud hosting companies do not want to work with Parler in light of the press statements issued by Amazon, Google and Apple."

What these big tech companies are doing is outrageous -- it is flat out socialism communism fascism Orwellian government censorship.....Why didn't the radical leftist Democrats who control big Tech just allow the free markets to decide -- instead of having people like Biden and Pelosi decide who Twitter or Facebook can or can't have on their platform - why didn't they just allow the free market to decide?? -- That is the problem when you have big government get involved with what private businesses can or can't do -- you get communism....

This shouldn't be a left or right issue (except that the right should be able to dictate what the left does or can't do) --- this should be a bipartisan issue -- we should allow free markets to have control over social media, not big government -- and the best way to do that is to nationalize Facebook and Twitter and declare them public commodities and let Trump and others he appoints decide who and who can't have access -- we should also break up Google and Amazon because these corporations have been too successful at gaining a near monopoly -- and breaking up monopolies is totally a function of a free market....In fact, we wouldn't have all of these large media, pharma and agricultural corporate conglomerates if we just allowed free markets to decide...Just think how much better something like healthcare would be if we just nationalized it and declared it a public commodity like the free market demands...

The free market did decide.

You want nationalized healthcare? I'd prefer single payer/ private delivery.

 

[martybegan]

Facebook puts on a dog and pony show about moderating things like this, but it still happens. But the 2nd they get to ban some conservative, BOOM, off to the races.

Moderating violent speech is just an excuse to eliminate speech you don't like.

Of course it still happens on Facebook because it's an enormous platform with an enormous number of postings and material on it. But they have an infrastructure and a good faith effort to do something about it.

They also have their own servers so they're not dependent on contracts like Parler.

Moderating violent speech is the fundamental issue at play here. You're just making shit up because it suits your needs to feel persecuted.

Snowflake.

"good faith", LOL

Actually you are the snowflake because you are the one wanting opposing views suppressed, learn what a term actually means you gutless twat.

 

[martybegan]

And then everyone on Twitter and Facebook can claim the left views is the only view because the right views were silenced, while ignoring the fact the right views were silenced.

Go ahead and pretend that every conservative has been kicked off Facebook and Twitter. Go ahead. Tell me that's what's happened.

Are you going to do that?

That's where it is leading to.

Why are they removing people and posts that just reference things like QAnon and "Stop the Steal"?

Are those terms now violence?

 

[colfax_m]

That's where it is leading to.

Why are they removing people and posts that just reference things like QAnon and "Stop the Steal"?

Are those terms now violence?

Ah, so now everything is a "slippery slope" argument. You're backpedaling.

QAnon and Stop the Steal has resulted in a riot and murder at the Capitol building. Or have you been living under a rock?

Jesus, the conspiracies can only go so far before they become dangerous.

 

[surada]

Facebook puts on a dog and pony show about moderating things like this, but it still happens. But the 2nd they get to ban some conservative, BOOM, off to the races.

Moderating violent speech is just an excuse to eliminate speech you don't like.

Of course it still happens on Facebook because it's an enormous platform with an enormous number of postings and material on it. But they have an infrastructure and a good faith effort to do something about it.

They also have their own servers so they're not dependent on contracts like Parler.

Moderating violent speech is the fundamental issue at play here. You're just making shit up because it suits your needs to feel persecuted.

Snowflake.

"good faith", LOL

Actually you are the snowflake because you are the one wanting opposing views suppressed, learn what a term actually means you gutless twat.

Opposing views are not suppressed.. Lies and asinine conspiracy theories, threats and calls for violence are.

 

[colfax_m]

"good faith", LOL

Actually you are the snowflake because you are the one wanting opposing views suppressed, learn what a term actually means you gutless twat.

I don't actually give a shit what people say on Parler, I'm defending the rights of Amazon to refuse to do business with someone who has no qualms with facilitating violent rhetoric.

You want to force Amazon to support that nonsense because it suits your political purposes. One step closer to fascism for you.

 

[Bryan Luhning]

So you are ok with censorship and having you first amendment rights squashed?

Let me know where the first amendment says you have the right to post on Twitter. Let me know where the first amendment says you have a right to use AWS.

It doesn't. You want to speak, go to the street corner and speak. No one will censor you and if they try I'll back contribute to your legal costs to fight them.

The social media sites are the analog of a community. But if your community leaders try to shut down your speech that would violate your first amendment rights. So yes I believe the idea that the platform can silence an idea is barbaric.

 

[martybegan]

That's where it is leading to.

Why are they removing people and posts that just reference things like QAnon and "Stop the Steal"?

Are those terms now violence?

Ah, so now everything is a "slippery slope" argument. You're backpedaling.

QAnon and Stop the Steal has resulted in a riot and murder at the Capitol building. Or have you been living under a rock?

Jesus, the conspiracies can only go so far before they become dangerous.

BLM and anti-fa resulted in property damage injuries and death over the summer, why aren't all of them being banned?

 

[martybegan]

"good faith", LOL

Actually you are the snowflake because you are the one wanting opposing views suppressed, learn what a term actually means you gutless twat.

I don't actually give a shit what people say on Parler, I'm defending the rights of Amazon to refuse to do business with someone who has no qualms with facilitating violent rhetoric.

You want to force Amazon to support that nonsense because it suits your political purposes. One step closer to fascism for you.

Nah, you are just letting others do your dirty work in suppressing speech you don't like.

How is letting parler do what it wants forcing Amazon to "support" it?

Does amazon support gay threesome midget fisting porn because it allows it on it's servers?

 

[colfax_m]

BLM and anti-fa resulted in property damage injuries and death over the summer, why aren't all of them being banned?

Because they don't believe in crazy shit like the Democratic Party is run by a cabal of cannibal pedophiles.

Show me the post that hasn't been taken down that specifically calls for violence.

Here's one from Parler:
“We are coming with our list we know where you live we know who you are and
we are coming for you and it starts on the 6th civil war... Lol if you will think it’s
a joke... Enjoy your last few days you have.”

You telling me Amazon shouldn't be allowed to refuse this kind of rhetoric to be served to the internet on their hardware?

 

[colfax_m]

How is letting parler do what it wants forcing Amazon to "support" it?

If the messages exist on their server, being accessed by other people from their hardware, on the infrastructure they built, they are supporting it.

This is literally the definition of support. Parler is suing Amazon saying they have no choice but to support it and they want to use the courts to make this happen.