Pelosi Blames Bush for $9T Debt Added Under Obama

[Redfish]

yes, that's correct. Obama had both houses of congress his first two years, why did they do nothing about the debt?
No matter how you try to spin it, our national debt was almost doubled during obozo's term. and yes, the republicans are partially responsible. Debt is an establishment problem in both parties.

Bush had control of both houses and DID double the debt from $6 trillion to $12 trillion. Obama is nowhere near the $24 trillion needed to double the GOP National Debt.

Wasn't the debt slightly over 10 trillion at the end of 2008? If it stands at 19.5 trillion now it's rather apparent that Barry did almost double the debt in his eight years!

It was $11.9+ trillion at the end of Bush's last FISCAL year.
Look it up.
Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2015

so any debt that is incurred through September 2017 will belong to Obama? Yes or no.

Yes. The Fiscal Year ends Sept 30.

yes, that's correct. Obama had both houses of congress his first two years, why did they do nothing about the debt?
No matter how you try to spin it, our national debt was almost doubled during obozo's term. and yes, the republicans are partially responsible. Debt is an establishment problem in both parties.

Bush had control of both houses and DID double the debt from $6 trillion to $12 trillion. Obama is nowhere near the $24 trillion needed to double the GOP National Debt.

Wasn't the debt slightly over 10 trillion at the end of 2008? If it stands at 19.5 trillion now it's rather apparent that Barry did almost double the debt in his eight years!

It was $11.9+ trillion at the end of Bush's last FISCAL year.
Look it up.
Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2015

so any debt that is incurred through September 2017 will belong to Obama? Yes or no.

Yes. The Fiscal Year ends Sept 30.

OK. I am going to save this because in a few months you libs are going to screaming that Trump increased the debt by following Obama's budget.

 

[easyt65]

Of course the nearly $1 Trillion failed Stimulus bill not one GOP voted for was Bush's fault...

The $1.5 trillion the near-super majority DNC Congress added during the last 2 years of Bush's Presidency was Bush's fault...

The average $1.3 trillion Obama added with a near-super majority Controlled Congress his 1st 2 years was Bush's fault...

Barry and the Democrats adding nearly $7 trillion in 4 years, almost $9 if you count the last 2 years under Bush when Libs controlled Congress, are all Bush's fault....

Not only will Barry be remembered as a failure and the worst US President, he will he remembered as a gutless loser who refused to take any responsibility for hos and his party's actions.

 

[Redfish]

national debt January 09 -- 10.6T
national debt January 17 -- 19.8T

Under obozo the Kenyan messiah our national debt almost doubled. Those stats cannot be questioned.

Now, shall we address Pelosi claiming that the ACA bill was bi-partisan?

The fiscal year starts Oct 1st of the year prior to those dates. Most spending is mandatory, which means it must be changed by Congress, as must taxation.

yes, that's correct. Obama had both houses of congress his first two years, why did they do nothing about the debt?

No matter how you try to spin it, our national debt was almost doubled during obozo's term. and yes, the republicans are partially responsible. Debt is an establishment problem in both parties.

Obama had both houses of congress his first two years, why did they do nothing about the debt?


Because, you idiot, the only means by which he could address it is through THE DEFICIT......which has been drastically reduced from where Scrubby left it...

the deficit defines the RATE of debt growth, reducing the annual deficit by a few million does not stop the debt from growing.

How about making the deficit zero? how about a surplus? Clinton and Newt created an annual surplus, did obozo try? Duh, no.

"A few million"?

The deficit was 1.5 TRILLION at the conclusion of Scrub's last fiscal year (you remember Scrub........he was the guy for whom you cast two votes on the basis of his promise to ELIMINATE the surplus he was bequeathed......a sentient would feel kinda stupid and might keep their mouth shut for...oh.....say.......several decades........but not you lot........beholding the consequences of your disastrous choices, you just draw more strength - with which to complain about the pace of repairs)...

It will be about 550 BILLION at the end of FY2017.....

is the difference between 1.5 TRILLION and 550 BILLION "a few million"?

did the national debt grow in each of Obama's years? yes or no

was the debt around 10 T when he took over and around 20T today? yes or no

and yes, I understated the deficit reduction. enjoy.

 

[IcebergSlim]

The fiscal year starts Oct 1st of the year prior to those dates. Most spending is mandatory, which means it must be changed by Congress, as must taxation.

yes, that's correct. Obama had both houses of congress his first two years, why did they do nothing about the debt?

No matter how you try to spin it, our national debt was almost doubled during obozo's term. and yes, the republicans are partially responsible. Debt is an establishment problem in both parties.

Obama had both houses of congress his first two years, why did they do nothing about the debt?


Because, you idiot, the only means by which he could address it is through THE DEFICIT......which has been drastically reduced from where Scrubby left it...

the deficit defines the RATE of debt growth, reducing the annual deficit by a few million does not stop the debt from growing.

How about making the deficit zero? how about a surplus? Clinton and Newt created an annual surplus, did obozo try? Duh, no.

"A few million"?

The deficit was 1.5 TRILLION at the conclusion of Scrub's last fiscal year (you remember Scrub........he was the guy for whom you cast two votes on the basis of his promise to ELIMINATE the surplus he was bequeathed......a sentient would feel kinda stupid and might keep their mouth shut for...oh.....say.......several decades........but not you lot........beholding the consequences of your disastrous choices, you just draw more strength - with which to complain about the pace of repairs)...

It will be about 550 BILLION at the end of FY2017.....

is the difference between 1.5 TRILLION and 550 BILLION "a few million"?

did the national debt grow in each of Obama's years? yes or no

was the debt around 10 T when he took over and around 20T today? yes or no

and yes, I understated the deficit reduction. enjoy.

Yes.

No.....

and, until I schooled you on it, you clearly didn't...

My turn..

Did you cast 2 votes for the douchebag who vaporized the surplus in 2001?

Yes or no.

Where the fuck do you get off bitching about the consequences of your votes?

Yes or no.

 

[edthecynic]

Of course the nearly $1 Trillion failed Stimulus bill not one GOP voted for was Bush's fault...

The $1.5 trillion the near-super majority DNC Congress added during the last 2 years of Bush's Presidency was Bush's fault...

The average $1.3 trillion Obama added with a near-super majority Controlled Congress his 1st 2 years was Bush's fault...

Barry and the Democrats adding nearly $7 trillion in 4 years, almost $9 if you count the last 2 years under Bush when Libs controlled Congress, are all Bush's fault....

Not only will Barry be remembered as a failure and the worst US President, he will he remembered as a gutless loser who refused to take any responsibility for hos and his party's actions.

OK, the GOP controlled the House, where all spending is controlled according to the Right, since 2011 and both the House and Senate since 2015, so by your rationalizations the GOP own all the debt since 2011.

 

[Redfish]

yes, that's correct. Obama had both houses of congress his first two years, why did they do nothing about the debt?

No matter how you try to spin it, our national debt was almost doubled during obozo's term. and yes, the republicans are partially responsible. Debt is an establishment problem in both parties.

Obama had both houses of congress his first two years, why did they do nothing about the debt?


Because, you idiot, the only means by which he could address it is through THE DEFICIT......which has been drastically reduced from where Scrubby left it...

the deficit defines the RATE of debt growth, reducing the annual deficit by a few million does not stop the debt from growing.

How about making the deficit zero? how about a surplus? Clinton and Newt created an annual surplus, did obozo try? Duh, no.

"A few million"?

The deficit was 1.5 TRILLION at the conclusion of Scrub's last fiscal year (you remember Scrub........he was the guy for whom you cast two votes on the basis of his promise to ELIMINATE the surplus he was bequeathed......a sentient would feel kinda stupid and might keep their mouth shut for...oh.....say.......several decades........but not you lot........beholding the consequences of your disastrous choices, you just draw more strength - with which to complain about the pace of repairs)...

It will be about 550 BILLION at the end of FY2017.....

is the difference between 1.5 TRILLION and 550 BILLION "a few million"?

did the national debt grow in each of Obama's years? yes or no

was the debt around 10 T when he took over and around 20T today? yes or no

and yes, I understated the deficit reduction. enjoy.

Yes.

No.....

and, until I schooled you on it, you clearly didn't...

My turn..

Did you cast 2 votes for the douchebag who vaporized the surplus in 2001?

Yes or no.

Where the fuck do you get off bitching about the consequences of your votes?

Yes or no.

Bush was a better choice than the idiot Gore or the fool Kerry. Bush did some dumb stuff but he was still better than either of those clowns.

on the debt, so Obama didn't take over until October 2009? is that your argument? Could he and the dem controlled congress have reduced spending between Jan 09 and Oct 09? again, its a yes or no.

 

[IcebergSlim]

Of course the nearly $1 Trillion failed Stimulus bill not one GOP voted for was Bush's fault...

The $1.5 trillion the near-super majority DNC Congress added during the last 2 years of Bush's Presidency was Bush's fault...

The average $1.3 trillion Obama added with a near-super majority Controlled Congress his 1st 2 years was Bush's fault...

Barry and the Democrats adding nearly $7 trillion in 4 years, almost $9 if you count the last 2 years under Bush when Libs controlled Congress, are all Bush's fault....

Not only will Barry be remembered as a failure and the worst US President, he will he remembered as a gutless loser who refused to take any responsibility for hos and his party's actions.

238 presidential scholars: Bush worst president of modern era, fifth worst in US history

I have you down for two votes......would that be right?

he will he remembered as a gutless loser who refused to take any responsibility for hos and his party's actions.​

You mean like the idiot whose teabag you're gumming here?

The $1.5 trillion the near-super majority DNC Congress added during the last 2 years of Bush's Presidency was Bush's fault...

The average $1.3 trillion Obama added with a near-super majority Controlled Congress his 1st 2 years was Bush's fault...
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You DO understand that

a) the process begins with a WH budget request

b) that Iraqnam was NOT a congressional initiative

c) neither were the tax cuts of 01 and 03

$1 Trillion failed Stimulus bill not one GOP voted for was Bush's fault...

​

Let’s start with Obama’s stimulus. The standard Republican talking point is that it failed, meaning it didn’t reduce unemployment. Yet in a survey of leading economists conducted by the University of Chicago’s Booth School of Business, 92 percent agreed that the stimulus succeeded in reducing the jobless rate. On the harder question of whether the benefit exceeded the cost, more than half thought it did, one in three was uncertain, and fewer than one in six disagreed.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-23/the-u-s-economic-policy-debate-is-a-sham.html


but wait......we're not done yet....

The real economy also responded to the massive stimulus but remained heavily dependent on it. In the United States, growth during the second half of 2009 probably averaged about 3 percent. Absent temporary fiscal stimulus and inventory rebuilding, which taken together added about 4 percentage points to U.S. growth, the economy would have contracted at about a 1 percent annual rate during the second half of 2009.


AEI Says Stimulus Boosted Economy By 4%

Without Obama's determined leadership, I am not certain the U.S. and the global economy would have averted a multi-year depression that would have devastated the well being of both current and future generations. His balanced analytical approach -- along with his calmness, dignity and intellect -- served as important anchors at a time of unusual fluidity for the world. The U.S. economy created 15 million jobs during the Obama recovery, significantly outperforming other advanced economies. The impact of his legacy will continuously grow, as will appreciation for what he has accomplished and how he has done so. I just wish he had inherited a less-troubling economy and a less-dysfunctional Congress. MOHAMED A. EL-ERIAN

Bloomberg View Columnists Say Farewell to the Chief


These are the views of CREDENTIALED economists.....you are a 2 Time Scrub Voter and Breitbart reader....

You KNOW which way I'm leaning, right?

 

[IcebergSlim]

Of course the nearly $1 Trillion failed Stimulus bill not one GOP voted for was Bush's fault...

The $1.5 trillion the near-super majority DNC Congress added during the last 2 years of Bush's Presidency was Bush's fault...

The average $1.3 trillion Obama added with a near-super majority Controlled Congress his 1st 2 years was Bush's fault...

Barry and the Democrats adding nearly $7 trillion in 4 years, almost $9 if you count the last 2 years under Bush when Libs controlled Congress, are all Bush's fault....

Not only will Barry be remembered as a failure and the worst US President, he will he remembered as a gutless loser who refused to take any responsibility for hos and his party's actions.

OK, the GOP controlled the House, where all spending is controlled according to the Right, since 2011 and both the House and Senate since 2015, so by your rationalizations the GOP own all the debt since 2011.

You think an idiot like that can link TWO ideas?

 

[IcebergSlim]

Obama had both houses of congress his first two years, why did they do nothing about the debt?


Because, you idiot, the only means by which he could address it is through THE DEFICIT......which has been drastically reduced from where Scrubby left it...

the deficit defines the RATE of debt growth, reducing the annual deficit by a few million does not stop the debt from growing.

How about making the deficit zero? how about a surplus? Clinton and Newt created an annual surplus, did obozo try? Duh, no.

"A few million"?

The deficit was 1.5 TRILLION at the conclusion of Scrub's last fiscal year (you remember Scrub........he was the guy for whom you cast two votes on the basis of his promise to ELIMINATE the surplus he was bequeathed......a sentient would feel kinda stupid and might keep their mouth shut for...oh.....say.......several decades........but not you lot........beholding the consequences of your disastrous choices, you just draw more strength - with which to complain about the pace of repairs)...

It will be about 550 BILLION at the end of FY2017.....

is the difference between 1.5 TRILLION and 550 BILLION "a few million"?

did the national debt grow in each of Obama's years? yes or no

was the debt around 10 T when he took over and around 20T today? yes or no

and yes, I understated the deficit reduction. enjoy.

Yes.

No.....

and, until I schooled you on it, you clearly didn't...

My turn..

Did you cast 2 votes for the douchebag who vaporized the surplus in 2001?

Yes or no.

Where the fuck do you get off bitching about the consequences of your votes?

Yes or no.

Bush was a better choice than the idiot Gore or the fool Kerry. Bush did some dumb stuff but he was still better than either of those clowns.

on the debt, so Obama didn't take over until October 2009? is that your argument? Could he and the dem controlled congress have reduced spending between Jan 09 and Oct 09? again, its a yes or no.

You STILL rationalize two votes for THE WORST POTUS OF THE MODERN ERA, the guy who effected a net fiscal swing of 15 trillion dollars?

And NO...Obama could NOT have reduced the spending that had already been appropriated prior to his inauguration.....and given that the bulk of the additional spending was to address the catastrophic wages of Supply Side Idiocy, Part Deux, cutting it would have been even worse....

 

[Oldstyle]

Obama's work? What pray tell would that be? He's a tax and spend liberal. The only reason the budget deficit has been reduced is that the GOP took the House back from the Democrats in 2010. Pelosi claiming "credit" for reducing the deficit is amusing since she's one of the people who foisted the Affordable Care Act on the American people.

Clearly you are not getting it....

I don't give a shit what you drooling slack jawed cretins have been told to think....

a) You can determine, by means of the WH budget request of 2009, what Obama's spending plans were.....he was proposing increases considerably more modest than those we saw under his predecessor, and much more so than those under Ronald Reagan

b) ACA has added NOTHING to the deficit - according to CBO.....Why don't you tell everyone what CBO stands for?

national debt January 09 -- 10.6T
national debt January 17 -- 19.8T

Under obozo the Kenyan messiah our national debt almost doubled. Those stats cannot be questioned.

Now, shall we address Pelosi claiming that the ACA bill was bi-partisan?

Those stats cannot be questioned.

One might begin with "Why Jan 09"?

Another question might be "What manner of inbred douche is unaware that the Federal Fiscal year runs from Oct. 1 to Sept 30?"

Which leads directly into the question "Why are Uninformed Yokels allowed to vote, never mind breed?"

Anytime you snowflakes want to have voting rights based on intelligence, Slim...you just let us know! You're the ones who don't want voter ID laws enforced because YOUR voters can't figure out how to get an ID for themselves!

Uh...no....the reason I object to them is the very same reason distinguished jurist Richard Posner does....

the issue is a hoax......there is NO voter fraud problem......you are being played for a fool.......and Recidivist Supply Side Voting Imbeciles are fertile ground.

Asking people to have proper ID in order to vote is such a common sense concept that you progressives make total asses of yourself when you go apoplectic every time it's proposed! You had to have proper ID to get into the Democratic National Convention this year...but you Democrats don't think voters should have to have proper ID to vote?

It's because of stuff like THAT, Slim that you folks just lost the election!

 

[easyt65]

OK, the GOP controlled the House, where all spending is controlled according to the Right, since 2011 and both the House and Senate since 2015, so by your rationalizations the GOP own all the debt since 2011.

WRONG!

The Democrats held a near Super Majority control of the House and Senate (4 seats shy of being a Super Majority - which is how they rammed the ACA into law) the last 2 years under Bush - when even Liberals say the economy started to decline - and the 1st 2 years under Obama.

Bush added $2.5 Triillion in debt over 6 years during 9/11/01, the aftermath, and during 2 wars.

After taking over Congress the Democrats began breaking the law - a budget is required by law annually, but they started passing spending measures without an actual budget. In Bush's last 2 years Democrats added $1.5 trillion in new debt, only $1 trillion shy of what Bush/Republicans did in 6 years.

The Democrats held Congress the 1st 2 years under Obama, posting annual debt addition of OVER $1.5 TRILLION, which lasted his entire 1st term (approx average if $1.5 per year).

Obama called Bush 'Un-Pstriotic' for adding $4 trillion in debt over 8 years....and Barry went on to add almost $7 trillion in only 4 years.

Actually, as mentioned, Democrats are responsible for $1.5 (of that $4 trillion) under Bush - add that to the nearly $7 under Obama, and the Democrats are responsible for close to $9 Trillion in 6 years. If you count the 2 plus Obama's 8, you get Obama and Democrats adding OVER $10 TRILLION IN 10 YEARS.

Barry (and Democrats) added more debt than EVERY President COMBINED.

For that record-setting price-tag we got:
- The collapsing ACA
- The failed Stimulus
- The 1st US Credit Rating Downgrade
- Another war in Iraq
- 2 Un-Constitutional / Un-Authorized wars
- Helping the Muslim Brotherhood take over
- Helping Al Qaeda (3k dead Americans) take over Libya
- Helping ISIS try to take over Syria
- Supplying/funding/aiding/arming terrorists
- Arming Mexican Drug Cartels
- The weakening of NATO
- Being on the verge of war with Russia
- To help Iran further their nuclear capability due to an Un-Constitutional Obama Treaty
- To pay for hostages Iran held
- 8 years of violations of the Constitution and Rule of Law
- and so much more

Which has resulted in 2 record-setting, historic losses for the DNC, approx 1,000 seats/positions for Democrats under Obama's watch.

 

[edthecynic]

Bush added $2.5 Triillion in debt over 6 years during 9/11/01, the aftermath, and during 2 wars.

After taking over Congress the Democrats began breaking the law - a budget is required by law annually, but they started passing spending measures without an actual budget. In Bush's last 2 years Democrats added $1.5 trillion in new debt, only $1 trillion shy of what Bush/Republicans did in 6 years.

The Democrats held Congress the 1st 2 years under Obama, posting annual debt addition of OVER $1.5 TRILLION, which lasted his entire 1st term (approx average if $1.5 per year).

All lies.
Bush racked up 3.2 trillion his first 6 years, and the only reason the deficit was higher his last 2 years was because of Boomers retiring there was no longer a SS surplus to borrow from and Bush's financial house of cards fell from its own inertia reducing revenue sharply. You can show no LEGISLATION passed by the Democrats over a Bush veto that caused the increase in debt.
Bush added nearly 2 trillion in new debt his last fiscal year alone. And Obama added 4.8 trillion total in new debt his first 4 years, 1.5 trillion in interest on the GOP National Debt Bush passed on to him hardly an average of 1.5 trillion per year.

 

[Campbell]

THE MOST POWERFUL MAN IN AMERICAN HISTORY, MAYBE THE WORLD:

Pelosi blames Bush for $9 trillion in debt added under Obama.

Is there anything he can’t do?

When Obama took over the national debt was twelve trillion dollars. His annual interest payments were approximately the same as the defense budget. Don't try to lay your goddamned Bush debts onto Democrats:

 

[Weatherman2020]

THE MOST POWERFUL MAN IN AMERICAN HISTORY, MAYBE THE WORLD:

Pelosi blames Bush for $9 trillion in debt added under Obama.

Is there anything he can’t do?

When Obama took over the national debt was twelve trillion dollars. His annual interest payments were approximately the same as the defense budget. Don't try to lay your goddamned Bush debts onto Democrats:

Any other Soros Fake News graphs for today?

 

[easyt65]

Bush added nearly 2 trillion in new debt his last fiscal year alone.

Thank you for admitting the near Super Majority Democratic Controlled Congress - which meant Democrats controlled Congress, the Budget, the spending, and the economy - added nearly $2 trillion Bush's last 2 years.

That is what I said - thank you for confirming it / agreeing with me.

 

[easyt65]

Camp, like Pelosi, seeks to shift blame onto Bush. They refuse to accept what their Democrats did when they controlled Congress.

 

[blackhawk]

 

[rhodescholar]

THE MOST POWERFUL MAN IN AMERICAN HISTORY, MAYBE THE WORLD:

Pelosi blames Bush for $9 trillion in debt added under Obama.

Is there anything he can’t do?

Bush must think he's a jew; he's blamed for everything bad that happens, even years after leaving office, and knowing the liberal dogshit, probably decades after he leaves office.

Isn't if hilarious how Bush is blamed for things almost ten years after he leaves, and Trump is being blamed for similar and he's not even fucking IN office yet - but the scumbag leftist media won't put an ounce of blame where it should be - their beloved obama.

And reporters today wonder why they are so utterly despised.

 

[rhodescholar]

I don't see any numbers, Fraud......only more uninformed prattle...Are you an idiot?

Only in the pea brain of a liberal/leftist does "reducing" the deficit mean something. obama had EIGHT YEARS to eliminate it, and failed to do so. Clearly if he was "reducing" it - he wouldn't have doubled it in 8 years, now would he?

It's because the fucking democraps need those votes from the illegals and the public employee union members since hardly any whites or non-minority native citizens are voting for them, and haven't for a long time.

 

[edthecynic]

Bush added nearly 2 trillion in new debt his last fiscal year alone.

Thank you for admitting the near Super Majority Democratic Controlled Congress - which meant Democrats controlled Congress, the Budget, the spending, and the economy - added nearly $2 trillion Bush's last 2 years.
That is what I said - thank you for confirming it / agreeing with me.

and thank you for lying.
I asked you to name the legislation passed by the Democrats OVER a Bush VETO that added 2 trillion in Bush debt. Until you do that, Bush owns all the debt he allowed.