Pelosi declares being a pervert who sexually harasses / sniffs women not a 'disqualifier'

[AzogtheDefiler]

No! He was talking about women hitting on him or flirting with him because of his celebrity, wealth, etc. Not some asshole hitting on your daughter. Those are two mutually exclusive actions.

He was talking about sexually assaulting women. Sure, he framed it as though they want it. Though many came forward and said they didn’t. But then that’s what sexual assaulters do; They blame their victims.And then of course, idiots excuse them because they accept their excuses. Especially when it’s politically expedient.

No he was not whatsoever. He was bragging that women fawned over him and LET HIM do whatever he wanted. That was the bragging part. No one ever brags about assault.

That’s what rapists often do; they blame their victims, saying they wanted it or even, they were asking for it.

And of course, with trump, many said they didn’t want it...

List of Trump's accusers and their allegations of sexual misconduct

This is what people do with rich people. They extort them. No one said anything about Trump before he ran and he was always very rich and famous. I don't buy it. Sorry.

No, not everyone does. Now Trump May think every woman in the world he meets wants to be groped by him, but many don’t. And many women said he groped them without their permission.

He never said "every". You're making stuff up yet again. And he never said it was without permission. The whole point of the bragging was that they want him and LET HIM do it. Otherwise what is there to brag about?

 

[SmokeALib]

No! He was talking about women hitting on him or flirting with him because of his celebrity, wealth, etc. Not some asshole hitting on your daughter. Those are two mutually exclusive actions.

He was talking about sexually assaulting women. Sure, he framed it as though they want it. Though many came forward and said they didn’t. But then that’s what sexual assaulters do; They blame their victims.And then of course, idiots excuse them because they accept their excuses. Especially when it’s politically expedient.

No he was not whatsoever. He was bragging that women fawned over him and LET HIM do whatever he wanted. That was the bragging part. No one ever brags about assault.

That’s what rapists often do; they blame their victims, saying they wanted it or even, they were asking for it.

And of course, with trump, many said they didn’t want it...

List of Trump's accusers and their allegations of sexual misconduct

This is what people do with rich people. They extort them. No one said anything about Trump before he ran and he was always very rich and famous. I don't buy it. Sorry.

No, not everyone does. Now Trump May think every woman in the world he meets wants to be groped by him, but many don’t. And many women said he groped them without their permission.

Here's another poor lost soul that believes everything he sees on the internet, as long as it fulfills his leftist agenda.

 

[edthecynic]

He was bragging about the fact that hey hit on him!?!?!?

yeah this sure sounds like he was bragging about the fact that they hit on him!
"I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn't get there."

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Oh trust me, she did not just take it, but that does not change the fact that people defending and justifying such actions and talk keep it happening all around the country. She should not have needed to fight back against it, that is the point you fail to grasp, but you are not allowed to say anything bad about your god in the white house, so what other choice do you have

What actions? He was bragging about the fact that hey hit on him!?!?!? Gator, you're losing a lot of credibility here. Not that you GAF but still.

you are right about one thing, I did not give a fuck what you Trump defenders think of me. you go right on defending those actions and words. I pray it never happens to your daughters, but if if does I hope you will be near as understanding.

No. You cannot go there. I am having a logical debate with you. Do not make it personal. There is no need. And I have criticized DJT too but you're attacking him over something that is untrue and that is just not right. IMO.

I can go there, I can go there because to me it is personal. This is not some discussion about theory, it is about what happens every day in this country. This shit goes on all around us.

No. Your conflating events that are not related. I 100% vehemently disagree with you.

It is the same mindset that allows these things to continue to happen. These people think because they are rich they are allowed to act this way, and you agree with them.

You defend them. And that is the problem


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[iceberg]

What actions? He was bragging about the fact that hey hit on him!?!?!? Gator, you're losing a lot of credibility here. Not that you GAF but still.

you are right about one thing, I did not give a fuck what you Trump defenders think of me. you go right on defending those actions and words. I pray it never happens to your daughters, but if if does I hope you will be near as understanding.

No. You cannot go there. I am having a logical debate with you. Do not make it personal. There is no need. And I have criticized DJT too but you're attacking him over something that is untrue and that is just not right. IMO.

I can go there, I can go there because to me it is personal. This is not some discussion about theory, it is about what happens every day in this country. This shit goes on all around us.

No. Your conflating events that are not related. I 100% vehemently disagree with you.

It is the same mindset that allows these things to continue to happen. These people think because they are rich they are allowed to act this way, and you agree with them.

You defend them. And that is the problem


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not attacking someone in rabid fashion is not the same as agreeing with them.

i swear to god some people are so fucking binary of thought.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

He was bragging about the fact that hey hit on him!?!?!?

yeah this sure sounds like he was bragging about the fact that they hit on him!
"I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn't get there."

That was one specific person and also famous. So he was talking about his lack of success too. It was a dude to dude conversation.

 

[MisterBeale]

Wow, you are usually so rational and logical, but you have become unhinged.

He said, they "let you." There is no evidence of any such conduct that you ascribe to him as non-consensual.

Most women that are sexually harassed/assaulted "let" it happen because they feel powerless to stop it. When speaking up could cost you your job and your livelihood it is not the easiest thing to do. And men that do such things count on that fact.

Have you asked every single woman if you could kiss them in your life? Seriously?

I have never kissed a woman that I was not dating or that did not kiss me first.

Your hate is eating you up dude.

You have lost it and contracted TDS man.

Never thought you would sink to the level of Deano.

Yes, I am filled with hate for men that treat women this way.

This is not about Trump, this is about all the men that act like he does.

I am filled with hate because my own child had to deal with such assholes in her life, and she has to do so because their actions and words are defended and justified. Hell, my own wife has had men grab her in places they should not while they were lying in a hospital bed and she was trying to treat them. This shit goes on far too much and dismissing it with the wave of a hand only keeps it happening.

So yeah, I am filled with hate, hate for men that think women are nothing more than objects there for their pleasure.

Okay, I think I can understand where you are coming from.

I AM empathetic to your cause.

What you wish and desire to be defined as "rape," or "assault," is not soon going to be defined as such, until the culture and people change to a significant degree. Folks can't read each other's minds, so it is incumbent upon those who feel victimized to speak up!

At university I took an intensive course in empathy training for a crisis hotline where we fielded all sorts of calls, many from victims of assault, rape, and black out drunk date rape. It unfortunately happens much too often.

What you are describing is, of course much too common. Two things need to happen, the culture needs to change, and empowerment needs to occur.

You cannot, OTH, ascribe hostile motivations onto a seventy something year old man, when the culture was something entirely different generations ago. Make no mistake, I an neither excusing misogyny and racism, nor giving it a pass, however, I am trying to explain how it is more resistant to change in older Americans.

Through this lens;

We can all agree, Joe Biden is probably as inappropriate a candidate as DJT is, if we are strictly judging by societal norms of today.


I am SO tired of the double standards partisans have. If Trump is fine, than Biden is fine. If Trump is not, than neither is Biden. That is all there is too it.

Stop already trying to justify one but not the other. Your explanation makes perfect sense, but don't try and pretend that the objectification that Trump shows towards woman and children is not shown by Biden. They both deny such objectification, and every partisan believes their guy?

 

[Claudette]

Great news for liberal pervs everywhere - Nancy Pelosi says being a creepy old white Democrat who cops feels, sniffs women's hair, and sexually harasses / assaults women is NOT a 'disqualifier' for being a potential Democratic Party Presidential candidate....





Pelosi: Accusations against Biden don't disqualify him

"Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Monday that a pair of allegations of inappropriate kissing and touching against former Vice President Joe Bidenshould “not at all” disqualify him from the 2020 race."

I guess being a Democrats means never having to worry about obeying laws and violating other's rights...

Gotta stand over here and LMAO.

If Biden were a Rep, Pelousy would be screaming bloody murder about what an awful pervert he was and no way should he run for POTUS.

Since he's a Dem its nothing and certainly not a disqualifier for his run as POTUS.

You can't cure stupid.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

What actions? He was bragging about the fact that hey hit on him!?!?!? Gator, you're losing a lot of credibility here. Not that you GAF but still.

you are right about one thing, I did not give a fuck what you Trump defenders think of me. you go right on defending those actions and words. I pray it never happens to your daughters, but if if does I hope you will be near as understanding.

No. You cannot go there. I am having a logical debate with you. Do not make it personal. There is no need. And I have criticized DJT too but you're attacking him over something that is untrue and that is just not right. IMO.

I can go there, I can go there because to me it is personal. This is not some discussion about theory, it is about what happens every day in this country. This shit goes on all around us.

No. Your conflating events that are not related. I 100% vehemently disagree with you.

It is the same mindset that allows these things to continue to happen. These people think because they are rich they are allowed to act this way, and you agree with them.

You defend them. And that is the problem


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No. I am saying because they are rich AND famous they live different lives and we cannot judge them as easily. How many times during his lifetime do you think Trump has been hit on? I would guess 1000s. We cannot possibly put ourselves in his shoes. Do you really want to try and gauge how Tom Brady lives? You have no idea.

 

[edthecynic]

Who cares about Trump....he doesnt stand and dry hump people and smell their hair......Again show me another politician that invades space and smells hair like Biden?

PHOTOSHOP is pretty easy to spot.

Except they weren't photoshopped, as you well know.

 

[edthecynic]

He was bragging about the fact that hey hit on him!?!?!?

yeah this sure sounds like he was bragging about the fact that they hit on him!
"I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn't get there."

That was one specific person and also famous. So he was talking about his lack of success too. It was a dude to dude conversation.

It was the same "locker room talk."

 

[mudwhistle]

Who cares about Trump....he doesnt stand and dry hump people and smell their hair......Again show me another politician that invades space and smells hair like Biden?

PHOTOSHOP is pretty easy to spot.

Except they weren't photoshopped, as you well know.

Actually most of them are.

BTW, is there a new law against politicians kissing babies.
There is one for feeling them up, but Trump was doing what politicians have done for over a hundred years.

 

[edthecynic]

Who cares about Trump....he doesnt stand and dry hump people and smell their hair......Again show me another politician that invades space and smells hair like Biden?

PHOTOSHOP is pretty easy to spot.

Except they weren't photoshopped, as you well know.

Actually they are.

You gotta love the lying scum Right, even after seeing a video of the kiss, the lying scum Right STILL claim it was photoshopped.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

you are right about one thing, I did not give a fuck what you Trump defenders think of me. you go right on defending those actions and words. I pray it never happens to your daughters, but if if does I hope you will be near as understanding.

No. You cannot go there. I am having a logical debate with you. Do not make it personal. There is no need. And I have criticized DJT too but you're attacking him over something that is untrue and that is just not right. IMO.

I can go there, I can go there because to me it is personal. This is not some discussion about theory, it is about what happens every day in this country. This shit goes on all around us.

No. Your conflating events that are not related. I 100% vehemently disagree with you.

It is the same mindset that allows these things to continue to happen. These people think because they are rich they are allowed to act this way, and you agree with them.

You defend them. And that is the problem


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not attacking someone in rabid fashion is not the same as agreeing with them.

i swear to god some people are so fucking binary of thought.

No but spending two hours defending them is the same thing as agreeing with them.

There are things in life that are either right or wrong with no middle ground


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[mudwhistle]

Who cares about Trump....he doesnt stand and dry hump people and smell their hair......Again show me another politician that invades space and smells hair like Biden?

PHOTOSHOP is pretty easy to spot.

Except they weren't photoshopped, as you well know.

Actually they are.

You gotta love the lying scum Right, even after seeing a video of the kiss, the lying scum Right STILL claim it was photoshopped.

I saw the kiss. I also saw everything else.
You f**king scumbag!!
It's clear that you can't tell the difference between kissing babies and groping women and children.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

No. You cannot go there. I am having a logical debate with you. Do not make it personal. There is no need. And I have criticized DJT too but you're attacking him over something that is untrue and that is just not right. IMO.

I can go there, I can go there because to me it is personal. This is not some discussion about theory, it is about what happens every day in this country. This shit goes on all around us.

No. Your conflating events that are not related. I 100% vehemently disagree with you.

It is the same mindset that allows these things to continue to happen. These people think because they are rich they are allowed to act this way, and you agree with them.

You defend them. And that is the problem


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not attacking someone in rabid fashion is not the same as agreeing with them.

i swear to god some people are so fucking binary of thought.

No but spending two hours defending them is the same thing as agreeing with them.

There are things in life that are either right or wrong with no middle ground


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I would defend any person attacked like this. It is clear BS. No one would ever openly brag about ASSAULT. The bragging part was about exactly the opposite. Again, Gator, you need to eat a Snickers bar or something.

 

[iceberg]

Wow, you are usually so rational and logical, but you have become unhinged.

He said, they "let you." There is no evidence of any such conduct that you ascribe to him as non-consensual.

Most women that are sexually harassed/assaulted "let" it happen because they feel powerless to stop it. When speaking up could cost you your job and your livelihood it is not the easiest thing to do. And men that do such things count on that fact.

Have you asked every single woman if you could kiss them in your life? Seriously?

I have never kissed a woman that I was not dating or that did not kiss me first.

Your hate is eating you up dude.

You have lost it and contracted TDS man.

Never thought you would sink to the level of Deano.

Yes, I am filled with hate for men that treat women this way.

This is not about Trump, this is about all the men that act like he does.

I am filled with hate because my own child had to deal with such assholes in her life, and she has to do so because their actions and words are defended and justified. Hell, my own wife has had men grab her in places they should not while they were lying in a hospital bed and she was trying to treat them. This shit goes on far too much and dismissing it with the wave of a hand only keeps it happening.

So yeah, I am filled with hate, hate for men that think women are nothing more than objects there for their pleasure.

Okay, I think I can understand where you are coming from.

I AM empathetic to your cause.

What you wish and desire to be defined as "rape," or "assault," is not soon going to be defined as such, until the culture and people change to a significant degree. Folks can't read each other's minds, so it is incumbent upon those who feel victimized to speak up!

At university I took an intensive course in empathy training for a crisis hotline where we fielded all sorts of calls, many from victims of assault, rape, and black out drunk date rape. It unfortunately happens much too often.

What you are describing is, of course much too common. Two things need to happen, the culture needs to change, and empowerment needs to occur.

You cannot, OTH, ascribe hostile motivations onto a seventy something year old man, when the culture was something entirely different generations ago. Make no mistake, I an neither excusing misogyny and racism, nor giving it a pass, however, I am trying to explain how it is more resistant to change in older Americans.

Through this lens;

We can all agree, Joe Biden is probably as inappropriate a candidate as DJT is, if we are strictly judging by societal norms of today.


I am SO tired of the double standards partisans have. If Trump is fine, than Biden is fine. If Trump is not, than neither is Biden. That is all there is too it.

Stop already trying to justify one but not the other. Your explanation makes perfect sense, but don't try and pretend that the objectification that Trump shows towards woman and children is not shown by Biden. They both deny such objectification, and every partisan believes their guy?

i suppose i draw the line at kids. we know biden will act up like this with children in public.

i've not seen trump do this.

 

[iceberg]

No. You cannot go there. I am having a logical debate with you. Do not make it personal. There is no need. And I have criticized DJT too but you're attacking him over something that is untrue and that is just not right. IMO.

I can go there, I can go there because to me it is personal. This is not some discussion about theory, it is about what happens every day in this country. This shit goes on all around us.

No. Your conflating events that are not related. I 100% vehemently disagree with you.

It is the same mindset that allows these things to continue to happen. These people think because they are rich they are allowed to act this way, and you agree with them.

You defend them. And that is the problem


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not attacking someone in rabid fashion is not the same as agreeing with them.

i swear to god some people are so fucking binary of thought.

No but spending two hours defending them is the same thing as agreeing with them.

There are things in life that are either right or wrong with no middle ground


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where have i defended trump? AGAIN you are assuming that since i don't attack him with the same passion you do, i am defending him.

what he said was stupid. but he only SAID IT that we know of. we know and have seen for ourselves biden in action. i find a difference. you don't. all this other crap is just you being overly emotional and projecting.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Cool maybe he should have grabbed them by the pussy!

Or screwed some porn stars while his third wife was knocked up!

Can you imagine Trumpian offended by the sex life of a public figure!?!

Or it's not true like all the other bullshit you peddle......which is the most likely outcome.
Raping(the lefty definition of it, lets see if you can figure it out) interns is still worse.....

$130,000 for a lie. Right.

Yep, happens to rich famous people all the time.......ironically he's getting that back from her.......with the agreement still in place......#Winning

 

[Harpy Eagle]

you are right about one thing, I did not give a fuck what you Trump defenders think of me. you go right on defending those actions and words. I pray it never happens to your daughters, but if if does I hope you will be near as understanding.

No. You cannot go there. I am having a logical debate with you. Do not make it personal. There is no need. And I have criticized DJT too but you're attacking him over something that is untrue and that is just not right. IMO.

I can go there, I can go there because to me it is personal. This is not some discussion about theory, it is about what happens every day in this country. This shit goes on all around us.

No. Your conflating events that are not related. I 100% vehemently disagree with you.

It is the same mindset that allows these things to continue to happen. These people think because they are rich they are allowed to act this way, and you agree with them.

You defend them. And that is the problem


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No. I am saying because they are rich AND famous they live different lives and we cannot judge them as easily. How many times during his lifetime do you think Trump has been hit on? I would guess 1000s. We cannot possibly put ourselves in his shoes. Do you really want to try and gauge how Tom Brady lives? You have no idea.

Yeah, I am going to have to call bullshit on this one. If it is wrong for me to do it, it is wrong for them to do it. It is that fucking simple. The reason they get away with shit that you or I cannot get away with is because you let them, you excuse their actions, you justify their actions.

you will never find me doing that.