Pelosi Suggests Delaying State of the Union

[BS Filter]

Nancy is opening the door for more open and aggressive insulting, mocking and disrespecting Donald Trump. Entertainment for the masses.

any enemy of that orange waste in our WH is my friend Let him stew in his own juices

The masses have paid the price for inept corrupted people such as her. You see they are the entertainment for the elitists. To me no one in D.C. can compete with Trump as he gives it back also. Since many of the progressive socialists are of this vein, they have been taken aback knowing if mainstream Republicans ever start doing the same act as progressives, things will get nasty. The worst thing is now the progressive socialists have birthed communists and may lose control of their own party. History will not judge these people well.

Things are already nasty and will get much worse as they've already lost their party to the communists. There no longer is a Democratic Party as we knew it.

And even worse the republican party HAVEN'T changed their stripes The same old white racist morons supporting their wealthy pals

That really some old out dated propaganda you have there. Next thing you'll tell us is Democrats are for the little guy and working man, huh.

 

[depotoo]

They offered him $1.6 billion for his first year, the other possibly authorized in increments later, possibly, not appropriated. In other words, not set in stone. In exchange they wanted daca recipients and all their families to be given permanent status, continued chain migration, and a continued visa lottery system.
So, no, they did not offer $25 billion in appropriations over 10 years.

I was talking about the meeting with Feinstein and the other Dems when she asked Trump to do DACA, with a "promise" to work out a deal to fund the wall "later". Trump wisely said NO.

You're welcome.

LOLOLOLOL

Liar.

You said, "The Dems never intended to fund the wall. They tried to trick him into giving them DACA first (with a promise to fund the wall), then break the promise like they always do. That's how these creeps operate."

That was the deal they offered Trump -- which I educated you to understand they couldn't renege.

No worries. Educating brain-dead cons is a side job for me. I do it for free out of the kindness of my heart.

Nice try, asshole, but I didn't lie about anything. They never intended to fund the wall because they knew Trump would not agree to a deal that would make the wall obsolete if it were built. Chain migration and the visa lottery would have made it obsolete. And the only side job you have involves bath houses. Idiots are not capable of educating anyone.

Of course you're lying. You're a conservative, ain'tcha? Democrats offered to place $25 billion into a trust fund for border security. That wasn't good enough for Trump and Republicans so they rejected that.

Now they have nothing.

You don't read so well, do you? I'm not gonna repeat myself just because you can't stay focused (or understand plain English).

So? Democrats still offered Trump $25 billion. It wasn’t good enough for him. So now Democrats, who now have some power in Congress, offer Trump their middle finger.

 

[basquebromance]

"Trump responds to Pelosi trying to get him to move State of the Union by telling her she can’t go on a foreign trip unless she flies commercial."

 

[pismoe]

They offered him $1.6 billion for his first year, the other possibly authorized in increments later, possibly, not appropriated. In other words, not set in stone. In exchange they wanted daca recipients and all their families to be given permanent status, continued chain migration, and a continued visa lottery system.
So, no, they did not offer $25 billion in appropriations over 10 years.

LOLOLOLOL

Liar.

You said, "The Dems never intended to fund the wall. They tried to trick him into giving them DACA first (with a promise to fund the wall), then break the promise like they always do. That's how these creeps operate."

That was the deal they offered Trump -- which I educated you to understand they couldn't renege.

No worries. Educating brain-dead cons is a side job for me. I do it for free out of the kindness of my heart.

Nice try, asshole, but I didn't lie about anything. They never intended to fund the wall because they knew Trump would not agree to a deal that would make the wall obsolete if it were built. Chain migration and the visa lottery would have made it obsolete. And the only side job you have involves bath houses. Idiots are not capable of educating anyone.

Of course you're lying. You're a conservative, ain'tcha? Democrats offered to place $25 billion into a trust fund for border security. That wasn't good enough for Trump and Republicans so they rejected that.

Now they have nothing.

You don't read so well, do you? I'm not gonna repeat myself just because you can't stay focused (or understand plain English).

So? Democrats still offered Trump $25 billion. It wasn’t good enough for him. So now Democrats, who now have some power in Congress, offer Trump their middle finger.

--------------------------- Trump was correct to not take that deal you describe . Plus , feck 'caca daca' , deport them and let them get their 'cheese sandwhich' thats waiting for them as they get off the buses in 'mexico' .

 

[Faun]

LOLOLOLOL

Liar.

You said, "The Dems never intended to fund the wall. They tried to trick him into giving them DACA first (with a promise to fund the wall), then break the promise like they always do. That's how these creeps operate."

That was the deal they offered Trump -- which I educated you to understand they couldn't renege.

No worries. Educating brain-dead cons is a side job for me. I do it for free out of the kindness of my heart.

Nice try, asshole, but I didn't lie about anything. They never intended to fund the wall because they knew Trump would not agree to a deal that would make the wall obsolete if it were built. Chain migration and the visa lottery would have made it obsolete. And the only side job you have involves bath houses. Idiots are not capable of educating anyone.

Of course you're lying. You're a conservative, ain'tcha? Democrats offered to place $25 billion into a trust fund for border security. That wasn't good enough for Trump and Republicans so they rejected that.

Now they have nothing.

You don't read so well, do you? I'm not gonna repeat myself just because you can't stay focused (or understand plain English).

So? Democrats still offered Trump $25 billion. It wasn’t good enough for him. So now Democrats, who now have some power in Congress, offer Trump their middle finger.

How dishonest, the text of the proposed bill said up to $25B that wasn't already appropriated, the problem being of course that all of Treasury funds were already appropriated , so there was no new money authorized.

The bill called for $25 billion to be appropriated and placed in a trust fund to be established with restrictions that no more than $5 billion could be withdrawn in a fiscal year until the funds were exhausted.

SEC. ll. BORDER SECURITY TRUST FUND.
(a) ESTABLISHMENT.—There is established in the Treasury of the United States a trust fund to be known as the Border Security Trust Fund (in this section referred to as the ‘‘Trust Fund’’), consisting of amounts appropriated to the Trust Fund under subsection (b) and any amounts that may be credited to the Trust Fund under subsection (c).
(b) APPROPRIATION.—There are appropriated to the Trust Fund $25,000,000,000, to remain available until expended.
(c) INVESTMENT OF AMOUNTS.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary of the Treasury shall invest such portion of the Trust Fund as is not required to meet cur- rent withdrawals in interest-bearing obligations of the United States or in obligations guaranteed as to both principal and interest by the United States.
(2) INTEREST AND PROCEEDS.—The interest on, and the proceeds from the sale or redemption of, any obligations held in the Trust Fund shall be credited to and form a part of the Trust Fund.
(d) AVAILABILITY OF AMOUNTS.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—Subject to paragraph (2), amounts in the Trust Fund shall be available to the Secretary of Homeland Security, without further appropriation, for—
(A) construction of not fewer than 700 miles of reinforced fencing, excluding vehicle barriers;
(B) installation of additional physical barriers;
(C) construction and maintenance of access and patrol roads;
(D) lighting;
(E) an interlocking surveillance camera system;
(F) remote sensors; and
(G) the purchase from the Secretary of Defense of surplus aircraft and unmanned air- craft systems.
(2) LIMITATION.—Not more than $5,000,000,000 of the amount in the Trust Fund may be obligated and expended in any fiscal year.​

 

[Faun]

LOLOLOLOL

Liar.

You said, "The Dems never intended to fund the wall. They tried to trick him into giving them DACA first (with a promise to fund the wall), then break the promise like they always do. That's how these creeps operate."

That was the deal they offered Trump -- which I educated you to understand they couldn't renege.

No worries. Educating brain-dead cons is a side job for me. I do it for free out of the kindness of my heart.

Nice try, asshole, but I didn't lie about anything. They never intended to fund the wall because they knew Trump would not agree to a deal that would make the wall obsolete if it were built. Chain migration and the visa lottery would have made it obsolete. And the only side job you have involves bath houses. Idiots are not capable of educating anyone.

Of course you're lying. You're a conservative, ain'tcha? Democrats offered to place $25 billion into a trust fund for border security. That wasn't good enough for Trump and Republicans so they rejected that.

Now they have nothing.

You don't read so well, do you? I'm not gonna repeat myself just because you can't stay focused (or understand plain English).

So? Democrats still offered Trump $25 billion. It wasn’t good enough for him. So now Democrats, who now have some power in Congress, offer Trump their middle finger.

That's right, double down on your illiteracy, you fucking fool. Let me know when get done with that basic reading course, ok?

Wut?? I thought you said you’re done repeating yourself? Not a man of your word, are ya?

Regardless, Democrats still offered Trump $25 billion and he turned it down.

 

[Faun]

Nice try, asshole, but I didn't lie about anything. They never intended to fund the wall because they knew Trump would not agree to a deal that would make the wall obsolete if it were built. Chain migration and the visa lottery would have made it obsolete. And the only side job you have involves bath houses. Idiots are not capable of educating anyone.

Of course you're lying. You're a conservative, ain'tcha? Democrats offered to place $25 billion into a trust fund for border security. That wasn't good enough for Trump and Republicans so they rejected that.

Now they have nothing.

You don't read so well, do you? I'm not gonna repeat myself just because you can't stay focused (or understand plain English).

So? Democrats still offered Trump $25 billion. It wasn’t good enough for him. So now Democrats, who now have some power in Congress, offer Trump their middle finger.

How dishonest, the text of the proposed bill said up to $25B that wasn't already appropriated, the problem being of course that all of Treasury funds were already appropriated , so there was no new money authorized.

Keep in mind you're talking to a robot who is programmed to only repeat leftist talking points and is not able to receive information.

And by, “leftist talking points,” you mean, “facts.”

 

[Faun]

LOLOLOLOL

Liar.

You said, "The Dems never intended to fund the wall. They tried to trick him into giving them DACA first (with a promise to fund the wall), then break the promise like they always do. That's how these creeps operate."

That was the deal they offered Trump -- which I educated you to understand they couldn't renege.

No worries. Educating brain-dead cons is a side job for me. I do it for free out of the kindness of my heart.

Nice try, asshole, but I didn't lie about anything. They never intended to fund the wall because they knew Trump would not agree to a deal that would make the wall obsolete if it were built. Chain migration and the visa lottery would have made it obsolete. And the only side job you have involves bath houses. Idiots are not capable of educating anyone.

Of course you're lying. You're a conservative, ain'tcha? Democrats offered to place $25 billion into a trust fund for border security. That wasn't good enough for Trump and Republicans so they rejected that.

Now they have nothing.

You don't read so well, do you? I'm not gonna repeat myself just because you can't stay focused (or understand plain English).

So? Democrats still offered Trump $25 billion. It wasn’t good enough for him. So now Democrats, who now have some power in Congress, offer Trump their middle finger.

Coulter says the moron ""is dead in the water if he doesn't get his wall""

That’s the real reason this is suddenly a “national emergency” for trump.

 

[DandyDonovan]

Nice try, asshole, but I didn't lie about anything. They never intended to fund the wall because they knew Trump would not agree to a deal that would make the wall obsolete if it were built. Chain migration and the visa lottery would have made it obsolete. And the only side job you have involves bath houses. Idiots are not capable of educating anyone.

Of course you're lying. You're a conservative, ain'tcha? Democrats offered to place $25 billion into a trust fund for border security. That wasn't good enough for Trump and Republicans so they rejected that.

Now they have nothing.

You don't read so well, do you? I'm not gonna repeat myself just because you can't stay focused (or understand plain English).

So? Democrats still offered Trump $25 billion. It wasn’t good enough for him. So now Democrats, who now have some power in Congress, offer Trump their middle finger.

How dishonest, the text of the proposed bill said up to $25B that wasn't already appropriated, the problem being of course that all of Treasury funds were already appropriated , so there was no new money authorized.

The bill called for $25 billion to be appropriated and placed in a trust fund to be established with restrictions that no more than $5 billion could be withdrawn in a fiscal year until the funds were exhausted.

SEC. ll. BORDER SECURITY TRUST FUND.
(a) ESTABLISHMENT.—There is established in the Treasury of the United States a trust fund to be known as the Border Security Trust Fund (in this section referred to as the ‘‘Trust Fund’’), consisting of amounts appropriated to the Trust Fund under subsection (b) and any amounts that may be credited to the Trust Fund under subsection (c).
(b) APPROPRIATION.—There are appropriated to the Trust Fund $25,000,000,000, to remain available until expended.
(c) INVESTMENT OF AMOUNTS.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary of the Treasury shall invest such portion of the Trust Fund as is not required to meet cur- rent withdrawals in interest-bearing obligations of the United States or in obligations guaranteed as to both principal and interest by the United States.
(2) INTEREST AND PROCEEDS.—The interest on, and the proceeds from the sale or redemption of, any obligations held in the Trust Fund shall be credited to and form a part of the Trust Fund.
(d) AVAILABILITY OF AMOUNTS.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—Subject to paragraph (2), amounts in the Trust Fund shall be available to the Secretary of Homeland Security, without further appropriation, for—
(A) construction of not fewer than 700 miles of reinforced fencing, excluding vehicle barriers;
(B) installation of additional physical barriers;
(C) construction and maintenance of access and patrol roads;
(D) lighting;
(E) an interlocking surveillance camera system;
(F) remote sensors; and
(G) the purchase from the Secretary of Defense of surplus aircraft and unmanned air- craft systems.
(2) LIMITATION.—Not more than $5,000,000,000 of the amount in the Trust Fund may be obligated and expended in any fiscal year.​

Correct, and if you read all the lawyer gobbley gook you can clearly see that "unless that money is already appropriated elsewhere" that bill didn't give new money for border security . It essentially said "hey if we have any left over money it can go into the "border security trust fund"

It's total dishonesty.

 

[Faun]

They offered him $1.6 billion for his first year, the other possibly authorized in increments later, possibly, not appropriated. In other words, not set in stone. In exchange they wanted daca recipients and all their families to be given permanent status, continued chain migration, and a continued visa lottery system.
So, no, they did not offer $25 billion in appropriations over 10 years.

LOLOLOLOL

Liar.

You said, "The Dems never intended to fund the wall. They tried to trick him into giving them DACA first (with a promise to fund the wall), then break the promise like they always do. That's how these creeps operate."

That was the deal they offered Trump -- which I educated you to understand they couldn't renege.

No worries. Educating brain-dead cons is a side job for me. I do it for free out of the kindness of my heart.

Nice try, asshole, but I didn't lie about anything. They never intended to fund the wall because they knew Trump would not agree to a deal that would make the wall obsolete if it were built. Chain migration and the visa lottery would have made it obsolete. And the only side job you have involves bath houses. Idiots are not capable of educating anyone.

Of course you're lying. You're a conservative, ain'tcha? Democrats offered to place $25 billion into a trust fund for border security. That wasn't good enough for Trump and Republicans so they rejected that.

Now they have nothing.

You don't read so well, do you? I'm not gonna repeat myself just because you can't stay focused (or understand plain English).

So? Democrats still offered Trump $25 billion. It wasn’t good enough for him. So now Democrats, who now have some power in Congress, offer Trump their middle finger.

Liar.

They offered him all $25 billion in a trust fund that he could withdraw up to $5 billion per fiscal year.

 

[pismoe]

Nice try, asshole, but I didn't lie about anything. They never intended to fund the wall because they knew Trump would not agree to a deal that would make the wall obsolete if it were built. Chain migration and the visa lottery would have made it obsolete. And the only side job you have involves bath houses. Idiots are not capable of educating anyone.

Of course you're lying. You're a conservative, ain'tcha? Democrats offered to place $25 billion into a trust fund for border security. That wasn't good enough for Trump and Republicans so they rejected that.

Now they have nothing.

You don't read so well, do you? I'm not gonna repeat myself just because you can't stay focused (or understand plain English).

So? Democrats still offered Trump $25 billion. It wasn’t good enough for him. So now Democrats, who now have some power in Congress, offer Trump their middle finger.

That's right, double down on your illiteracy, you fucking fool. Let me know when get done with that basic reading course, ok?

Wut?? I thought you said you’re done repeating yourself? Not a man of your word, are ya?

Regardless, Democrats still offered Trump $25 billion and he turned it down.

------------------------------------- and Trump was correct to do so Faun .

 

[Faun]

Of course you're lying. You're a conservative, ain'tcha? Democrats offered to place $25 billion into a trust fund for border security. That wasn't good enough for Trump and Republicans so they rejected that.

Now they have nothing.

You don't read so well, do you? I'm not gonna repeat myself just because you can't stay focused (or understand plain English).

So? Democrats still offered Trump $25 billion. It wasn’t good enough for him. So now Democrats, who now have some power in Congress, offer Trump their middle finger.

How dishonest, the text of the proposed bill said up to $25B that wasn't already appropriated, the problem being of course that all of Treasury funds were already appropriated , so there was no new money authorized.

The bill called for $25 billion to be appropriated and placed in a trust fund to be established with restrictions that no more than $5 billion could be withdrawn in a fiscal year until the funds were exhausted.

SEC. ll. BORDER SECURITY TRUST FUND.
(a) ESTABLISHMENT.—There is established in the Treasury of the United States a trust fund to be known as the Border Security Trust Fund (in this section referred to as the ‘‘Trust Fund’’), consisting of amounts appropriated to the Trust Fund under subsection (b) and any amounts that may be credited to the Trust Fund under subsection (c).
(b) APPROPRIATION.—There are appropriated to the Trust Fund $25,000,000,000, to remain available until expended.
(c) INVESTMENT OF AMOUNTS.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary of the Treasury shall invest such portion of the Trust Fund as is not required to meet cur- rent withdrawals in interest-bearing obligations of the United States or in obligations guaranteed as to both principal and interest by the United States.
(2) INTEREST AND PROCEEDS.—The interest on, and the proceeds from the sale or redemption of, any obligations held in the Trust Fund shall be credited to and form a part of the Trust Fund.
(d) AVAILABILITY OF AMOUNTS.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—Subject to paragraph (2), amounts in the Trust Fund shall be available to the Secretary of Homeland Security, without further appropriation, for—
(A) construction of not fewer than 700 miles of reinforced fencing, excluding vehicle barriers;
(B) installation of additional physical barriers;
(C) construction and maintenance of access and patrol roads;
(D) lighting;
(E) an interlocking surveillance camera system;
(F) remote sensors; and
(G) the purchase from the Secretary of Defense of surplus aircraft and unmanned air- craft systems.
(2) LIMITATION.—Not more than $5,000,000,000 of the amount in the Trust Fund may be obligated and expended in any fiscal year.​

Correct, and if you read all the lawyer gobbley gook you can clearly see that "unless that money is already appropriated elsewhere" that bill didn't give new money for border security . It essentially said "hey if we have any left over money it can go into the "border security trust fund"

It's total dishonesty.

Quote the bill, not yourself.

 

[toomuchtime_]

From the first days of his administration, Trump stated that he wanted to find a fair resolution to the so called "Dreamers" and he offered to give them and many more illegals who are already here a path to citizenship in exchange for funding for the fence, but the Democrats insisted he also abandon his plans for immigration reform as a condition for the funding, and that he refused to do. The President laid out his proposal in a State of the Union address, so if all the Democrats wanted was a path to citizenship for the "dreamers" the deal would have been done over a year ago.

Actually, what trump wanted to do was to gut legal immigration...

Trump’s swap: Citizenship for 1.8 million Dreamers, legal immigration gutted

Hardly, what he wants to do was to allow people in to who had skills or talents that the US needed and keep people out who had nothing the American people needed and he wants to limit chain immigration to the immediate families of people who were admitted on their own merits rather than allow one green card holder to sponsor hundreds of people who would not otherwise qualify.

If you believe America is responsible for taking care of all the world's poor, then you support the Democrats' opposition to the President' immigration reforms, but if you believe the responsibility of the US government is to protect the interests of the American people, then you support the President's immigration reforms.

”Hardly...”

LOL

I posted what he wanted to do, which he and Democrats could not agree on.

Oh well, he could have had his wall and $25 billion. Now he gets nothing. Immigration stays as it was anyway, he gets $0 billions, he gets no wall and now he gets to stew in a government shutdown that he owns.

The President was willing to give the dreamers and another 1,000,000 other illegals with special circumstances paths to citizenship in exchange for funding for the smart fence, but the Democrats said, "To hell with the dreamers, we are demanding control over immigration as well!" So you see, when Schumer claimed he offered the President funding for the smart fence in exchange for DACA, he was lying, and when you claimed he had, you were repeating his lie.

Nope, it's no lie. Democrats offered Trump $25 billion. He rejected their deal. Then they rejected his counter offer.

So no deal.

And now he gets -- nothing.

There you go again, the Democrats offered to fund the wall if the President also handed immigration over to them.

 

[Faun]

Of course you're lying. You're a conservative, ain'tcha? Democrats offered to place $25 billion into a trust fund for border security. That wasn't good enough for Trump and Republicans so they rejected that.

Now they have nothing.

You don't read so well, do you? I'm not gonna repeat myself just because you can't stay focused (or understand plain English).

So? Democrats still offered Trump $25 billion. It wasn’t good enough for him. So now Democrats, who now have some power in Congress, offer Trump their middle finger.

That's right, double down on your illiteracy, you fucking fool. Let me know when get done with that basic reading course, ok?

Wut?? I thought you said you’re done repeating yourself? Not a man of your word, are ya?

Regardless, Democrats still offered Trump $25 billion and he turned it down.

------------------------------------- and Trump was correct to do so Faun .

Then he gets nothing.

 

[pismoe]

You don't read so well, do you? I'm not gonna repeat myself just because you can't stay focused (or understand plain English).

So? Democrats still offered Trump $25 billion. It wasn’t good enough for him. So now Democrats, who now have some power in Congress, offer Trump their middle finger.

That's right, double down on your illiteracy, you fucking fool. Let me know when get done with that basic reading course, ok?

Wut?? I thought you said you’re done repeating yourself? Not a man of your word, are ya?

Regardless, Democrats still offered Trump $25 billion and he turned it down.

------------------------------------- and Trump was correct to do so Faun .

Then he gets nothing.

------------------------------- until we get it Faun .

 

[Faun]

Actually, what trump wanted to do was to gut legal immigration...

Trump’s swap: Citizenship for 1.8 million Dreamers, legal immigration gutted

Hardly, what he wants to do was to allow people in to who had skills or talents that the US needed and keep people out who had nothing the American people needed and he wants to limit chain immigration to the immediate families of people who were admitted on their own merits rather than allow one green card holder to sponsor hundreds of people who would not otherwise qualify.

If you believe America is responsible for taking care of all the world's poor, then you support the Democrats' opposition to the President' immigration reforms, but if you believe the responsibility of the US government is to protect the interests of the American people, then you support the President's immigration reforms.

”Hardly...”

LOL

I posted what he wanted to do, which he and Democrats could not agree on.

Oh well, he could have had his wall and $25 billion. Now he gets nothing. Immigration stays as it was anyway, he gets $0 billions, he gets no wall and now he gets to stew in a government shutdown that he owns.

The President was willing to give the dreamers and another 1,000,000 other illegals with special circumstances paths to citizenship in exchange for funding for the smart fence, but the Democrats said, "To hell with the dreamers, we are demanding control over immigration as well!" So you see, when Schumer claimed he offered the President funding for the smart fence in exchange for DACA, he was lying, and when you claimed he had, you were repeating his lie.

Nope, it's no lie. Democrats offered Trump $25 billion. He rejected their deal. Then they rejected his counter offer.

So no deal.

And now he gets -- nothing.

There you go again, the Democrats offered to fund the wall if the President also handed immigration over to them.

Liar. They didn’t ask for immigration to be handed over to him. They didn’t want him to gut legal immigration, which was what he wanted.

Now he gets nothing. How’d that work out for him?

 

[Faun]

So? Democrats still offered Trump $25 billion. It wasn’t good enough for him. So now Democrats, who now have some power in Congress, offer Trump their middle finger.

That's right, double down on your illiteracy, you fucking fool. Let me know when get done with that basic reading course, ok?

Wut?? I thought you said you’re done repeating yourself? Not a man of your word, are ya?

Regardless, Democrats still offered Trump $25 billion and he turned it down.

------------------------------------- and Trump was correct to do so Faun .

Then he gets nothing.

------------------------------- until we get it Faun .

Congress is not giving it to him. Neither is Mexico.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Actually, what trump wanted to do was to gut legal immigration...

Trump’s swap: Citizenship for 1.8 million Dreamers, legal immigration gutted

Hardly, what he wants to do was to allow people in to who had skills or talents that the US needed and keep people out who had nothing the American people needed and he wants to limit chain immigration to the immediate families of people who were admitted on their own merits rather than allow one green card holder to sponsor hundreds of people who would not otherwise qualify.

If you believe America is responsible for taking care of all the world's poor, then you support the Democrats' opposition to the President' immigration reforms, but if you believe the responsibility of the US government is to protect the interests of the American people, then you support the President's immigration reforms.

”Hardly...”

LOL

I posted what he wanted to do, which he and Democrats could not agree on.

Oh well, he could have had his wall and $25 billion. Now he gets nothing. Immigration stays as it was anyway, he gets $0 billions, he gets no wall and now he gets to stew in a government shutdown that he owns.

The President was willing to give the dreamers and another 1,000,000 other illegals with special circumstances paths to citizenship in exchange for funding for the smart fence, but the Democrats said, "To hell with the dreamers, we are demanding control over immigration as well!" So you see, when Schumer claimed he offered the President funding for the smart fence in exchange for DACA, he was lying, and when you claimed he had, you were repeating his lie.

The Dems never intended to fund the wall. They tried to trick him into giving them DACA first (with a promise to fund the wall), then break the promise like they always do. That's how these creeps operate.

You dumbshit. Democrats voted to give Trump the entire $25 billion in a trust fund setup to allow annual withdrawals up to $5 billion. There was no way they "break the promise."

Still more lies. The Democrats never took a vote on the issue and they only offered to fund the smart fence if the President turned control over immigration to them.

 

[pismoe]

That's right, double down on your illiteracy, you fucking fool. Let me know when get done with that basic reading course, ok?

Wut?? I thought you said you’re done repeating yourself? Not a man of your word, are ya?

Regardless, Democrats still offered Trump $25 billion and he turned it down.

------------------------------------- and Trump was correct to do so Faun .

Then he gets nothing.

------------------------------- until we get it Faun .

Congress is not giving it to him. Neither is Mexico.

---------------------------------------------- we will see what happens , gov can be shut down for a long time and most people couldn't care less . Election is 2 years from now and this shut down is only helping Trump Faun .

 

[Faun]

Hardly, what he wants to do was to allow people in to who had skills or talents that the US needed and keep people out who had nothing the American people needed and he wants to limit chain immigration to the immediate families of people who were admitted on their own merits rather than allow one green card holder to sponsor hundreds of people who would not otherwise qualify.

If you believe America is responsible for taking care of all the world's poor, then you support the Democrats' opposition to the President' immigration reforms, but if you believe the responsibility of the US government is to protect the interests of the American people, then you support the President's immigration reforms.

”Hardly...”

LOL

I posted what he wanted to do, which he and Democrats could not agree on.

Oh well, he could have had his wall and $25 billion. Now he gets nothing. Immigration stays as it was anyway, he gets $0 billions, he gets no wall and now he gets to stew in a government shutdown that he owns.

The President was willing to give the dreamers and another 1,000,000 other illegals with special circumstances paths to citizenship in exchange for funding for the smart fence, but the Democrats said, "To hell with the dreamers, we are demanding control over immigration as well!" So you see, when Schumer claimed he offered the President funding for the smart fence in exchange for DACA, he was lying, and when you claimed he had, you were repeating his lie.

The Dems never intended to fund the wall. They tried to trick him into giving them DACA first (with a promise to fund the wall), then break the promise like they always do. That's how these creeps operate.

You dumbshit. Democrats voted to give Trump the entire $25 billion in a trust fund setup to allow annual withdrawals up to $5 billion. There was no way they "break the promise."

Still more lies. The Democrats never took a vote on the issue and they only offered to fund the smart fence if the President turned control over immigration to them.

Liar. I just posted a link to the amendment of the bill, sponsored by a Republican to appease Democrats — which Democrats (and 2 Independents), voted 46-3 in favor of.