Pelosi Suggests Delaying State of the Union

[toomuchtime_]

Hardly, what he wants to do was to allow people in to who had skills or talents that the US needed and keep people out who had nothing the American people needed and he wants to limit chain immigration to the immediate families of people who were admitted on their own merits rather than allow one green card holder to sponsor hundreds of people who would not otherwise qualify.

If you believe America is responsible for taking care of all the world's poor, then you support the Democrats' opposition to the President' immigration reforms, but if you believe the responsibility of the US government is to protect the interests of the American people, then you support the President's immigration reforms.

”Hardly...”

LOL

I posted what he wanted to do, which he and Democrats could not agree on.

Oh well, he could have had his wall and $25 billion. Now he gets nothing. Immigration stays as it was anyway, he gets $0 billions, he gets no wall and now he gets to stew in a government shutdown that he owns.

The President was willing to give the dreamers and another 1,000,000 other illegals with special circumstances paths to citizenship in exchange for funding for the smart fence, but the Democrats said, "To hell with the dreamers, we are demanding control over immigration as well!" So you see, when Schumer claimed he offered the President funding for the smart fence in exchange for DACA, he was lying, and when you claimed he had, you were repeating his lie.

Nope, it's no lie. Democrats offered Trump $25 billion. He rejected their deal. Then they rejected his counter offer.

So no deal.

And now he gets -- nothing.

There you go again, the Democrats offered to fund the wall if the President also handed immigration over to them.

Liar. They didn’t ask for immigration to be handed over to him. They didn’t want him to gut legal immigration, which was what he wanted.

Now he gets nothing. How’d that work out for him?

You say gut immigration because you are too ignorant about the issue to know what was at stake, which makes you a typical Democrat supporter. Personally, it is working out fine for the President, since the longer he holds the line the stronger his support from his base becomes. With the Democrats focusing all their energy on trying to hurt the President, it's not working out so well for America, but it's been a long time since there was any evidence Democrats cared about America or the American people.

 

[Faun]

Wut?? I thought you said you’re done repeating yourself? Not a man of your word, are ya?

Regardless, Democrats still offered Trump $25 billion and he turned it down.

------------------------------------- and Trump was correct to do so Faun .

Then he gets nothing.

------------------------------- until we get it Faun .

Congress is not giving it to him. Neither is Mexico.

---------------------------------------------- we will see what happens , gov can be shut down for a long time and most people couldn't care less . Election is 2 years from now and this shut down is only helping Trump Faun .

LOLOL

Actually, here in reality, since the shutdown began, trump’s approval rating has been dropping steadily while Congressional Democrats just hit a 6 year high. This numbers come as most Americans are against the wall, against the shutdown, and blame Trump for the shutdown.

 

[toomuchtime_]

”Hardly...”

LOL

I posted what he wanted to do, which he and Democrats could not agree on.

Oh well, he could have had his wall and $25 billion. Now he gets nothing. Immigration stays as it was anyway, he gets $0 billions, he gets no wall and now he gets to stew in a government shutdown that he owns.

The President was willing to give the dreamers and another 1,000,000 other illegals with special circumstances paths to citizenship in exchange for funding for the smart fence, but the Democrats said, "To hell with the dreamers, we are demanding control over immigration as well!" So you see, when Schumer claimed he offered the President funding for the smart fence in exchange for DACA, he was lying, and when you claimed he had, you were repeating his lie.

The Dems never intended to fund the wall. They tried to trick him into giving them DACA first (with a promise to fund the wall), then break the promise like they always do. That's how these creeps operate.

You dumbshit. Democrats voted to give Trump the entire $25 billion in a trust fund setup to allow annual withdrawals up to $5 billion. There was no way they "break the promise."

Still more lies. The Democrats never took a vote on the issue and they only offered to fund the smart fence if the President turned control over immigration to them.

Liar. I just posted a link to the amendment of the bill, sponsored by a Republican to appease Democrats — which Democrats (and 2 Independents), voted 46-3 in favor of.

Still more bullshit from you. If the Democrats had ever been willing to fund the smart fence in exchange for DACA, the deal would have been concluded a year ago when the President offered it to them in his State of the Union speech.

 

[pismoe]

yeah , and TRUMP had no chance of winning his election a couple years ago Faun .

 

[Faun]

”Hardly...”

LOL

I posted what he wanted to do, which he and Democrats could not agree on.

Oh well, he could have had his wall and $25 billion. Now he gets nothing. Immigration stays as it was anyway, he gets $0 billions, he gets no wall and now he gets to stew in a government shutdown that he owns.

The President was willing to give the dreamers and another 1,000,000 other illegals with special circumstances paths to citizenship in exchange for funding for the smart fence, but the Democrats said, "To hell with the dreamers, we are demanding control over immigration as well!" So you see, when Schumer claimed he offered the President funding for the smart fence in exchange for DACA, he was lying, and when you claimed he had, you were repeating his lie.

Nope, it's no lie. Democrats offered Trump $25 billion. He rejected their deal. Then they rejected his counter offer.

So no deal.

And now he gets -- nothing.

There you go again, the Democrats offered to fund the wall if the President also handed immigration over to them.

Liar. They didn’t ask for immigration to be handed over to him. They didn’t want him to gut legal immigration, which was what he wanted.

Now he gets nothing. How’d that work out for him?

You say gut immigration because you are too ignorant about the issue to know what was at stake, which makes you a typical Democrat supporter. Personally, it is working out fine for the President, since the longer he holds the line the stronger his support from his base becomes. With the Democrats focusing all their energy on trying to hurt the President, it's not working out so well for America, but it's been a long time since there was any evidence Democrats cared about America or the American people.

Liar.

I already posted this for you.

Trump’s swap: Citizenship for 1.8 million Dreamers, legal immigration gutted

Did you not read it or did you not understand it?

 

[Faun]

yeah , and TRUMP had no chance of winning his election a couple years ago Faun .

LOL

Is that supposed to redeem your made up nonsense that trump is winning the shutdown??

 

[pismoe]

my response is , we will see what happens Faun .

 

[Ame®icano]

"Trump responds to Pelosi trying to get him to move State of the Union by telling her she can’t go on a foreign trip unless she flies commercial."

 

[toomuchtime_]

The President was willing to give the dreamers and another 1,000,000 other illegals with special circumstances paths to citizenship in exchange for funding for the smart fence, but the Democrats said, "To hell with the dreamers, we are demanding control over immigration as well!" So you see, when Schumer claimed he offered the President funding for the smart fence in exchange for DACA, he was lying, and when you claimed he had, you were repeating his lie.

Nope, it's no lie. Democrats offered Trump $25 billion. He rejected their deal. Then they rejected his counter offer.

So no deal.

And now he gets -- nothing.

There you go again, the Democrats offered to fund the wall if the President also handed immigration over to them.

Liar. They didn’t ask for immigration to be handed over to him. They didn’t want him to gut legal immigration, which was what he wanted.

Now he gets nothing. How’d that work out for him?

You say gut immigration because you are too ignorant about the issue to know what was at stake, which makes you a typical Democrat supporter. Personally, it is working out fine for the President, since the longer he holds the line the stronger his support from his base becomes. With the Democrats focusing all their energy on trying to hurt the President, it's not working out so well for America, but it's been a long time since there was any evidence Democrats cared about America or the American people.

Liar.

I already posted this for you.

Trump’s swap: Citizenship for 1.8 million Dreamers, legal immigration gutted

Did you not read it or did you not understand it?

The President did not make immigration reform part of the deal for the smart fence in exchange for DACA and a million more illegals to have a path to citizenship, the Democrats id. Were you not so abysmally ignorant of the issue, you would recognize the article is wrong. Family unification would still be a part of our immigration policy but chain migration and the lottery would be excluded.

 

[pismoe]

"Trump responds to Pelosi trying to get him to move State of the Union by telling her she can’t go on a foreign trip unless she flies commercial."

---------------------------------------------------------- thanks Americano , i have been waiting a few minutes for someone to put up the Letter to 'pelosi' about her travel vacation . RUSH has been talking about the letter and its funny Americano , so thanks .

 

[basquebromance]

Pelosi border plan: secure points of entry (and nothing else)

 

[basquebromance]

"Trump doesn’t know what he’s doing, refuses to listen to people who do and Nancy Pelosi’s going spend the next two years just running circles around that toxic doofus."

 

[S.J.]

Nancy Pelosi is trying to hold the SOTU speech hostage. She is saying he can't give the speech until after the shutdown is over. At the same time she is saying, the shutdown will not be over until you give up on the wall and break your promise to the American people. She then sites "security" reasons for cancelling the speech even though the DHS and SS are saying the opposite. She's going to lose this fight big time.

 

[pismoe]

and President TRUMP just denied Military Aircraft to 'pelosi' for her vacation trip to the middle east just a minute ago . Reported on FOX 'cnn' just a minute ago . Air Force bus was there to pick up the vacationers and the bus was waved off and it left .

 

[basquebromance]

"What if we just agree to float both Trump and Pelosi on a rowboat to Europe and then film it for the SOTU? This will: 1. End the shutdown nearly immediately; 2. Be amazing entertainment; 3. Give them both what they want." - Wacky Ben Shapiro

 

[WorldWatcher]

Nancy Pelosi is trying to hold the SOTU speech hostage.

And Trump is holding paychecks for 1.3 Million people and their families hostage (employees and contractors). Your point?

She is saying he can't give the speech until after the shutdown is over.

That's not what she said.

Damn, I'm a Republican and can still be honest about what she said in the letter. She never said he couldn't give a SOTU either through a speech or through written submission. He can and it's totally up to him if he wants to.


.>>>>

 

[S.J.]

Nancy Pelosi is trying to hold the SOTU speech hostage.

And Trump is holding paychecks for 1.3 Million people and their families hostage (employees and contractors). Your point?

She is saying he can't give the speech until after the shutdown is over.

That's not what she said.

Damn, I'm a Republican and can still be honest about what she said in the letter. She never said he couldn't give a SOTU either through a speech or through written submission. He can and it's totally up to him if he wants to.


.>>>>

Pelosi could end the shutdown. She is more responsible for it than Trump.
And yeah, it IS what she is saying. She cited security as a reason and she was lying. DHS proved it. She's issuing a veiled threat and it's obvious.
No, she didn't say he couldn't give it, she just wants to make sure as few people as possible see it, and don't give me that bullshit about a "written SOTU". You would be flipping out if Obama had been forced to submit the SOTU speech in fucking writing.

 

[bendog]

Trump shut down the gummit, but Pelosi doesn't need to be flying military while it's shut down.

I'm pretty sure the airlines will float credit until Trump has to give it up.

 

[depotoo]

You keep bringing this up, it was introduced in Feb of last year, never passed. It was also introduced by GOP, not Democrat’s. This had nothing to do with Schumer’s $25 billion offer.
GOP Senate bill would establish $25 billion border security trust fund, legal protections for Dreamers - Homeland Preparedness News
https://www.thune.senate.gov/public...5C1225B23D487F6E832D82269A2D1CD7.ros18170.pdf
Go to page 4 to see it. And note the address to GOP Senator Thunes page



On January 26, on CNN’s Inside Politics, she said that President Trump’s offer to build the Wall, with a $25 billion trust fund, in return to grant amnesty and citizenship to about 1.8 million illegal aliens as part of granting amnesty to the DACA “children” and their nuclear family is:

“Let me just say what I said last night: that plan is a campaign to make America white again,”

So, on Jan 26, last year, she called a trust fund a joke.

They offered him $1.6 billion for his first year, the other possibly authorized in increments later, possibly, not appropriated. In other words, not set in stone. In exchange they wanted daca recipients and all their families to be given permanent status, continued chain migration, and a continued visa lottery system.
So, no, they did not offer $25 billion in appropriations over 10 years.

Nice try, asshole, but I didn't lie about anything. They never intended to fund the wall because they knew Trump would not agree to a deal that would make the wall obsolete if it were built. Chain migration and the visa lottery would have made it obsolete. And the only side job you have involves bath houses. Idiots are not capable of educating anyone.

Of course you're lying. You're a conservative, ain'tcha? Democrats offered to place $25 billion into a trust fund for border security. That wasn't good enough for Trump and Republicans so they rejected that.

Now they have nothing.

You don't read so well, do you? I'm not gonna repeat myself just because you can't stay focused (or understand plain English).

So? Democrats still offered Trump $25 billion. It wasn’t good enough for him. So now Democrats, who now have some power in Congress, offer Trump their middle finger.

Liar.

They offered him all $25 billion in a trust fund that he could withdraw up to $5 billion per fiscal year.

Nice try, asshole, but I didn't lie about anything. They never intended to fund the wall because they knew Trump would not agree to a deal that would make the wall obsolete if it were built. Chain migration and the visa lottery would have made it obsolete. And the only side job you have involves bath houses. Idiots are not capable of educating anyone.

Of course you're lying. You're a conservative, ain'tcha? Democrats offered to place $25 billion into a trust fund for border security. That wasn't good enough for Trump and Republicans so they rejected that.

Now they have nothing.

You don't read so well, do you? I'm not gonna repeat myself just because you can't stay focused (or understand plain English).

So? Democrats still offered Trump $25 billion. It wasn’t good enough for him. So now Democrats, who now have some power in Congress, offer Trump their middle finger.

How dishonest, the text of the proposed bill said up to $25B that wasn't already appropriated, the problem being of course that all of Treasury funds were already appropriated , so there was no new money authorized.

The bill called for $25 billion to be appropriated and placed in a trust fund to be established with restrictions that no more than $5 billion could be withdrawn in a fiscal year until the funds were exhausted.

SEC. ll. BORDER SECURITY TRUST FUND.
(a) ESTABLISHMENT.—There is established in the Treasury of the United States a trust fund to be known as the Border Security Trust Fund (in this section referred to as the ‘‘Trust Fund’’), consisting of amounts appropriated to the Trust Fund under subsection (b) and any amounts that may be credited to the Trust Fund under subsection (c).
(b) APPROPRIATION.—There are appropriated to the Trust Fund $25,000,000,000, to remain available until expended.
(c) INVESTMENT OF AMOUNTS.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary of the Treasury shall invest such portion of the Trust Fund as is not required to meet cur- rent withdrawals in interest-bearing obligations of the United States or in obligations guaranteed as to both principal and interest by the United States.
(2) INTEREST AND PROCEEDS.—The interest on, and the proceeds from the sale or redemption of, any obligations held in the Trust Fund shall be credited to and form a part of the Trust Fund.
(d) AVAILABILITY OF AMOUNTS.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—Subject to paragraph (2), amounts in the Trust Fund shall be available to the Secretary of Homeland Security, without further appropriation, for—
(A) construction of not fewer than 700 miles of reinforced fencing, excluding vehicle barriers;
(B) installation of additional physical barriers;
(C) construction and maintenance of access and patrol roads;
(D) lighting;
(E) an interlocking surveillance camera system;
(F) remote sensors; and
(G) the purchase from the Secretary of Defense of surplus aircraft and unmanned air- craft systems.
(2) LIMITATION.—Not more than $5,000,000,000 of the amount in the Trust Fund may be obligated and expended in any fiscal year.​

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

"Trump responds to Pelosi trying to get him to move State of the Union by telling her she can’t go on a foreign trip unless she flies commercial."

Haha, look at that childish language. 20 aides are facepalming right now. Damn he is dumb.