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But also....be very clear.....conservatives have no intention of driving them out of business.
You lie.
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But also....be very clear.....conservatives have no intention of driving them out of business.
I think a business owner should be able to choose if he wants to do business with anyone. Unless it's life or death.....as they see fit!
This isn't America....certainly not the 'home of the free' America, if a business can't determine its own rules of operation!
When the photo-framing establishment was confronted by a customer, with pictures that any right-minded individual would recognize as offensive, even tasteless....they refused to offer the photo-framing services for which they'd become famous....
They proclaimed their right and refused to frame the horrid items!!!!
The full force of the government came down like a hammer on an anvil!!!
They were taken to court....
...fined $135,000 dollars for the refusal!!!
....and then the right-minded government officials slapped a gag order on the business owners, effectively proclaiming "Just shut up and get out of business!!!"
Why couldn't the 'customer' simply wandered on down the street to another establishment that was more.....permissive???
OH...WAIT!!!!
I made a tiny little mistake.
The customer did simply move on...and there was no government action...no fine, no gag order....because the customer was a conservative....
Unlike the Lesbian couple in the bakery controversy, this customer didn't file a claim with the state, stating that the refusal to frame a photo had caused her to suffer from 88 symptoms of mental anguish including “doubt,” “surprise,” “uncertainty,” “worry” and a “dislike of going to work.”
"Katie Richter, a 27-year-old St. Louis native who currently lives in Aspen, CO, attended inauguration last Friday to show support for President Trump. She even hit up one of the inaugural balls (Heartland States Society Ball) with her date and snapped plenty of photos to commemorate her trip to D.C.
However, when Richter went to Suitable For Framing in Aspen to frame some photos and memorabilia like her inaugural ball ticket, she was denied service because of her support for Trump.
Befuddled, Richter took to social media to share her account.
“Wow!” She wrote in a Facebook post. “Talk about a one-way street with liberals.”
In an interview with Red Alert Politics, Richter said that when she moved to Aspen from St. Louis, she joked about having to hide her conservative opinions and deleting her Facebook account."
Trump supporter denied service: Company won’t frame inauguration photo
"Where is all the tolerance and acceptance of other's views? What happened to "females sticking together and supporting one another"? What about extending respect to others that every Anti-Trump supporter loves to gab on about?" I'll tell you where it is. It doesn't exist! They only want to hear things that align with their ideology and their deranged agenda."
Suitable for Framing - Aspen, Colorado - Home Decor | Facebook
This story makes no sense unless we see the photos.
The funniest part of this story is that the OP actually SUPPORTS the right of the framing business to discriminate against a Trump supporter,
but won't say so. Instead we get another convoluted rant about imaginary hypocrisy.
When was I opposed to gays suing businesses who wouldn't serve them?
Oh bullshit, and you know it. You're fine with the guy in the OP having to resort to a lawsuit, but the collectivist homosexuals? No, they get the full force of the federal government behind them.
Fucking hypocrite.
Sue the company. End of story.
Notice you didn't share that advice when the customer was a homosexual.
Why the double standard?
Don't lie about what I've done or said.
Then call me out by stating it clearly. I will concede if you maintain a modicum of consistency here. Should the government force this guy to serve the conservative exactly as they did for the homosexual. Yes or no?
First, you apologize for baselessly labeling me a hypocrite.
Prove you're not and I will.
Not holding my breath on this one!
I think a business owner should be able to choose if he wants to do business with anyone. Unless it's life or death.....as they see fit!
This isn't America....certainly not the 'home of the free' America, if a business can't determine its own rules of operation!
When the photo-framing establishment was confronted by a customer, with pictures that any right-minded individual would recognize as offensive, even tasteless....they refused to offer the photo-framing services for which they'd become famous....
They proclaimed their right and refused to frame the horrid items!!!!
The full force of the government came down like a hammer on an anvil!!!
They were taken to court....
...fined $135,000 dollars for the refusal!!!
....and then the right-minded government officials slapped a gag order on the business owners, effectively proclaiming "Just shut up and get out of business!!!"
Why couldn't the 'customer' simply wandered on down the street to another establishment that was more.....permissive???
OH...WAIT!!!!
I made a tiny little mistake.
The customer did simply move on...and there was no government action...no fine, no gag order....because the customer was a conservative....
Unlike the Lesbian couple in the bakery controversy, this customer didn't file a claim with the state, stating that the refusal to frame a photo had caused her to suffer from 88 symptoms of mental anguish including “doubt,” “surprise,” “uncertainty,” “worry” and a “dislike of going to work.”
"Katie Richter, a 27-year-old St. Louis native who currently lives in Aspen, CO, attended inauguration last Friday to show support for President Trump. She even hit up one of the inaugural balls (Heartland States Society Ball) with her date and snapped plenty of photos to commemorate her trip to D.C.
However, when Richter went to Suitable For Framing in Aspen to frame some photos and memorabilia like her inaugural ball ticket, she was denied service because of her support for Trump.
Befuddled, Richter took to social media to share her account.
“Wow!” She wrote in a Facebook post. “Talk about a one-way street with liberals.”
In an interview with Red Alert Politics, Richter said that when she moved to Aspen from St. Louis, she joked about having to hide her conservative opinions and deleting her Facebook account."
Trump supporter denied service: Company won’t frame inauguration photo
"Where is all the tolerance and acceptance of other's views? What happened to "females sticking together and supporting one another"? What about extending respect to others that every Anti-Trump supporter loves to gab on about?" I'll tell you where it is. It doesn't exist! They only want to hear things that align with their ideology and their deranged agenda."
Suitable for Framing - Aspen, Colorado - Home Decor | Facebook
This story makes no sense unless we see the photos.
The funniest part of this story is that the OP actually SUPPORTS the right of the framing business to discriminate against a Trump supporter,
but won't say so. Instead we get another convoluted rant about imaginary hypocrisy.
In a free country no business should be forced to serve a customer they don't want to, regardless of the reason. The issue is at the end of the day no Democrats and few Republicans actually believe in freedom.
Do you believe you should have the freedom to shoot someone you don't care for?
But also....be very clear.....conservatives have no intention of driving them out of business.
Sue the company. End of story.
Notice you didn't share that advice when the customer was a homosexual.
Why the double standard?
So you think the frame shop should shut down?I think a business owner should be able to choose if he wants to do business with anyone. Unless it's life or death.....as they see fit!
This isn't America....certainly not the 'home of the free' America, if a business can't determine its own rules of operation!
When the photo-framing establishment was confronted by a customer, with pictures that any right-minded individual would recognize as offensive, even tasteless....they refused to offer the photo-framing services for which they'd become famous....
They proclaimed their right and refused to frame the horrid items!!!!
The full force of the government came down like a hammer on an anvil!!!
They were taken to court....
...fined $135,000 dollars for the refusal!!!
....and then the right-minded government officials slapped a gag order on the business owners, effectively proclaiming "Just shut up and get out of business!!!"
Why couldn't the 'customer' simply wandered on down the street to another establishment that was more.....permissive???
OH...WAIT!!!!
I made a tiny little mistake.
The customer did simply move on...and there was no government action...no fine, no gag order....because the customer was a conservative....
Unlike the Lesbian couple in the bakery controversy, this customer didn't file a claim with the state, stating that the refusal to frame a photo had caused her to suffer from 88 symptoms of mental anguish including “doubt,” “surprise,” “uncertainty,” “worry” and a “dislike of going to work.”
"Katie Richter, a 27-year-old St. Louis native who currently lives in Aspen, CO, attended inauguration last Friday to show support for President Trump. She even hit up one of the inaugural balls (Heartland States Society Ball) with her date and snapped plenty of photos to commemorate her trip to D.C.
However, when Richter went to Suitable For Framing in Aspen to frame some photos and memorabilia like her inaugural ball ticket, she was denied service because of her support for Trump.
Befuddled, Richter took to social media to share her account.
“Wow!” She wrote in a Facebook post. “Talk about a one-way street with liberals.”
In an interview with Red Alert Politics, Richter said that when she moved to Aspen from St. Louis, she joked about having to hide her conservative opinions and deleting her Facebook account."
Trump supporter denied service: Company won’t frame inauguration photo
"Where is all the tolerance and acceptance of other's views? What happened to "females sticking together and supporting one another"? What about extending respect to others that every Anti-Trump supporter loves to gab on about?" I'll tell you where it is. It doesn't exist! They only want to hear things that align with their ideology and their deranged agenda."
Suitable for Framing - Aspen, Colorado - Home Decor | Facebook
This story makes no sense unless we see the photos.
The funniest part of this story is that the OP actually SUPPORTS the right of the framing business to discriminate against a Trump supporter,
but won't say so. Instead we get another convoluted rant about imaginary hypocrisy.
So you're about the fourth person in this thread who doesn't believe in anti-discrimination laws.
But also....be very clear.....conservatives have no intention of driving them out of business.
I tend to agree. However I followed your link to Suitable For Framing's Facebook page and read some of the comments there. Several people claimed they (whoever "they" is) were going to close them down. I don't know if those individual are Conservatives, but from the tone and content of their posts I assumed they were.
I was simply addressing what appeared to be a common sentiment about what happened.
Fascist response? Let me ask you, silly person, what have you actively done to get rid of PA laws in your state?Did....you...know...that...political...affiliation....is....not...covered....by....state....P.....A....laws?....as they see fit!
This isn't America....certainly not the 'home of the free' America, if a business can't determine its own rules of operation!
When the photo-framing establishment was confronted by a customer, with pictures that any right-minded individual would recognize as offensive, even tasteless....they refused to offer the photo-framing services for which they'd become famous....
They proclaimed their right and refused to frame the horrid items!!!!
The full force of the government came down like a hammer on an anvil!!!
They were taken to court....
...fined $135,000 dollars for the refusal!!!
....and then the right-minded government officials slapped a gag order on the business owners, effectively proclaiming "Just shut up and get out of business!!!"
Why couldn't the 'customer' simply wandered on down the street to another establishment that was more.....permissive???
OH...WAIT!!!!
I made a tiny little mistake.
The customer did simply move on...and there was no government action...no fine, no gag order....because the customer was a conservative....
Unlike the Lesbian couple in the bakery controversy, this customer didn't file a claim with the state, stating that the refusal to frame a photo had caused her to suffer from 88 symptoms of mental anguish including “doubt,” “surprise,” “uncertainty,” “worry” and a “dislike of going to work.”
"Katie Richter, a 27-year-old St. Louis native who currently lives in Aspen, CO, attended inauguration last Friday to show support for President Trump. She even hit up one of the inaugural balls (Heartland States Society Ball) with her date and snapped plenty of photos to commemorate her trip to D.C.
However, when Richter went to Suitable For Framing in Aspen to frame some photos and memorabilia like her inaugural ball ticket, she was denied service because of her support for Trump.
Befuddled, Richter took to social media to share her account.
“Wow!” She wrote in a Facebook post. “Talk about a one-way street with liberals.”
In an interview with Red Alert Politics, Richter said that when she moved to Aspen from St. Louis, she joked about having to hide her conservative opinions and deleting her Facebook account."
Trump supporter denied service: Company won’t frame inauguration photo
"Where is all the tolerance and acceptance of other's views? What happened to "females sticking together and supporting one another"? What about extending respect to others that every Anti-Trump supporter loves to gab on about?" I'll tell you where it is. It doesn't exist! They only want to hear things that align with their ideology and their deranged agenda."
Suitable for Framing - Aspen, Colorado - Home Decor | Facebook
Thank you for the Fascist response.....but I covered that in the OP.
You totalitarians oppose free will, free speech, freedom of conscience, and smooth it over with government coercion.....that's called 'oppression.'
I strongly suggest a course in the meaning of liberty, if it is not too late for you.
1. Before our maxim was 'Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness," John Locke stated that one of the foundation stones of the classical liberal notion of private property as a natural right which all individuals have.
Now....let's see where you fit in:
2. Karl Marx's maxim, “Abolish all private property.”
3. "....private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners."
Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian
Is there even the slightest chance that you will understand that entrepreneurs should have the ability not to deal with you, for any reason?
No?
Then you will remain a Democrat subject.
So you think the frame shop should shut down?I think a business owner should be able to choose if he wants to do business with anyone. Unless it's life or death.....as they see fit!
This isn't America....certainly not the 'home of the free' America, if a business can't determine its own rules of operation!
When the photo-framing establishment was confronted by a customer, with pictures that any right-minded individual would recognize as offensive, even tasteless....they refused to offer the photo-framing services for which they'd become famous....
They proclaimed their right and refused to frame the horrid items!!!!
The full force of the government came down like a hammer on an anvil!!!
They were taken to court....
...fined $135,000 dollars for the refusal!!!
....and then the right-minded government officials slapped a gag order on the business owners, effectively proclaiming "Just shut up and get out of business!!!"
Why couldn't the 'customer' simply wandered on down the street to another establishment that was more.....permissive???
OH...WAIT!!!!
I made a tiny little mistake.
The customer did simply move on...and there was no government action...no fine, no gag order....because the customer was a conservative....
Unlike the Lesbian couple in the bakery controversy, this customer didn't file a claim with the state, stating that the refusal to frame a photo had caused her to suffer from 88 symptoms of mental anguish including “doubt,” “surprise,” “uncertainty,” “worry” and a “dislike of going to work.”
"Katie Richter, a 27-year-old St. Louis native who currently lives in Aspen, CO, attended inauguration last Friday to show support for President Trump. She even hit up one of the inaugural balls (Heartland States Society Ball) with her date and snapped plenty of photos to commemorate her trip to D.C.
However, when Richter went to Suitable For Framing in Aspen to frame some photos and memorabilia like her inaugural ball ticket, she was denied service because of her support for Trump.
Befuddled, Richter took to social media to share her account.
“Wow!” She wrote in a Facebook post. “Talk about a one-way street with liberals.”
In an interview with Red Alert Politics, Richter said that when she moved to Aspen from St. Louis, she joked about having to hide her conservative opinions and deleting her Facebook account."
Trump supporter denied service: Company won’t frame inauguration photo
"Where is all the tolerance and acceptance of other's views? What happened to "females sticking together and supporting one another"? What about extending respect to others that every Anti-Trump supporter loves to gab on about?" I'll tell you where it is. It doesn't exist! They only want to hear things that align with their ideology and their deranged agenda."
Suitable for Framing - Aspen, Colorado - Home Decor | Facebook
This story makes no sense unless we see the photos.
The funniest part of this story is that the OP actually SUPPORTS the right of the framing business to discriminate against a Trump supporter,
but won't say so. Instead we get another convoluted rant about imaginary hypocrisy.
So you're about the fourth person in this thread who doesn't believe in anti-discrimination laws.
So, you are actively working to get the PA laws repealed in your state, right?I think a business owner should be able to choose if he wants to do business with anyone. Unless it's life or death.....as they see fit!
This isn't America....certainly not the 'home of the free' America, if a business can't determine its own rules of operation!
When the photo-framing establishment was confronted by a customer, with pictures that any right-minded individual would recognize as offensive, even tasteless....they refused to offer the photo-framing services for which they'd become famous....
They proclaimed their right and refused to frame the horrid items!!!!
The full force of the government came down like a hammer on an anvil!!!
They were taken to court....
...fined $135,000 dollars for the refusal!!!
....and then the right-minded government officials slapped a gag order on the business owners, effectively proclaiming "Just shut up and get out of business!!!"
Why couldn't the 'customer' simply wandered on down the street to another establishment that was more.....permissive???
OH...WAIT!!!!
I made a tiny little mistake.
The customer did simply move on...and there was no government action...no fine, no gag order....because the customer was a conservative....
Unlike the Lesbian couple in the bakery controversy, this customer didn't file a claim with the state, stating that the refusal to frame a photo had caused her to suffer from 88 symptoms of mental anguish including “doubt,” “surprise,” “uncertainty,” “worry” and a “dislike of going to work.”
"Katie Richter, a 27-year-old St. Louis native who currently lives in Aspen, CO, attended inauguration last Friday to show support for President Trump. She even hit up one of the inaugural balls (Heartland States Society Ball) with her date and snapped plenty of photos to commemorate her trip to D.C.
However, when Richter went to Suitable For Framing in Aspen to frame some photos and memorabilia like her inaugural ball ticket, she was denied service because of her support for Trump.
Befuddled, Richter took to social media to share her account.
“Wow!” She wrote in a Facebook post. “Talk about a one-way street with liberals.”
In an interview with Red Alert Politics, Richter said that when she moved to Aspen from St. Louis, she joked about having to hide her conservative opinions and deleting her Facebook account."
Trump supporter denied service: Company won’t frame inauguration photo
"Where is all the tolerance and acceptance of other's views? What happened to "females sticking together and supporting one another"? What about extending respect to others that every Anti-Trump supporter loves to gab on about?" I'll tell you where it is. It doesn't exist! They only want to hear things that align with their ideology and their deranged agenda."
Suitable for Framing - Aspen, Colorado - Home Decor | Facebook
This story makes no sense unless we see the photos.
The funniest part of this story is that the OP actually SUPPORTS the right of the framing business to discriminate against a Trump supporter,
but won't say so. Instead we get another convoluted rant about imaginary hypocrisy.
Don't really affect me, if I don't like the owner of the store I don't shop there. Haven't shopped Kmart in years because of their stance on guns and their biggest contributions went to the ncaap a racist organization. They aren't doing to well.So, you are actively working to get the PA laws repealed in your state, right?I think a business owner should be able to choose if he wants to do business with anyone. Unless it's life or death.....as they see fit!
This isn't America....certainly not the 'home of the free' America, if a business can't determine its own rules of operation!
When the photo-framing establishment was confronted by a customer, with pictures that any right-minded individual would recognize as offensive, even tasteless....they refused to offer the photo-framing services for which they'd become famous....
They proclaimed their right and refused to frame the horrid items!!!!
The full force of the government came down like a hammer on an anvil!!!
They were taken to court....
...fined $135,000 dollars for the refusal!!!
....and then the right-minded government officials slapped a gag order on the business owners, effectively proclaiming "Just shut up and get out of business!!!"
Why couldn't the 'customer' simply wandered on down the street to another establishment that was more.....permissive???
OH...WAIT!!!!
I made a tiny little mistake.
The customer did simply move on...and there was no government action...no fine, no gag order....because the customer was a conservative....
Unlike the Lesbian couple in the bakery controversy, this customer didn't file a claim with the state, stating that the refusal to frame a photo had caused her to suffer from 88 symptoms of mental anguish including “doubt,” “surprise,” “uncertainty,” “worry” and a “dislike of going to work.”
"Katie Richter, a 27-year-old St. Louis native who currently lives in Aspen, CO, attended inauguration last Friday to show support for President Trump. She even hit up one of the inaugural balls (Heartland States Society Ball) with her date and snapped plenty of photos to commemorate her trip to D.C.
However, when Richter went to Suitable For Framing in Aspen to frame some photos and memorabilia like her inaugural ball ticket, she was denied service because of her support for Trump.
Befuddled, Richter took to social media to share her account.
“Wow!” She wrote in a Facebook post. “Talk about a one-way street with liberals.”
In an interview with Red Alert Politics, Richter said that when she moved to Aspen from St. Louis, she joked about having to hide her conservative opinions and deleting her Facebook account."
Trump supporter denied service: Company won’t frame inauguration photo
"Where is all the tolerance and acceptance of other's views? What happened to "females sticking together and supporting one another"? What about extending respect to others that every Anti-Trump supporter loves to gab on about?" I'll tell you where it is. It doesn't exist! They only want to hear things that align with their ideology and their deranged agenda."
Suitable for Framing - Aspen, Colorado - Home Decor | Facebook
This story makes no sense unless we see the photos.
The funniest part of this story is that the OP actually SUPPORTS the right of the framing business to discriminate against a Trump supporter,
but won't say so. Instead we get another convoluted rant about imaginary hypocrisy.
Don't see the BFD PoliSpice.
"To see the enemy where he doesn't exist is cowardice," someone once said.
What you have to note here is what I'd call the 'pre-assignment' of opinions to people like myself, aka liberals, IOW
the OP and others such as eflat assign us the opinion that we oppose one sort of discrimination and support the other,
and by that they manufacture out of thin air what they believe is their justification for labeling us hypocrites.
So, you are actively working to get the PA laws repealed in your state, right?I think a business owner should be able to choose if he wants to do business with anyone. Unless it's life or death.....as they see fit!
This isn't America....certainly not the 'home of the free' America, if a business can't determine its own rules of operation!
When the photo-framing establishment was confronted by a customer, with pictures that any right-minded individual would recognize as offensive, even tasteless....they refused to offer the photo-framing services for which they'd become famous....
They proclaimed their right and refused to frame the horrid items!!!!
The full force of the government came down like a hammer on an anvil!!!
They were taken to court....
...fined $135,000 dollars for the refusal!!!
....and then the right-minded government officials slapped a gag order on the business owners, effectively proclaiming "Just shut up and get out of business!!!"
Why couldn't the 'customer' simply wandered on down the street to another establishment that was more.....permissive???
OH...WAIT!!!!
I made a tiny little mistake.
The customer did simply move on...and there was no government action...no fine, no gag order....because the customer was a conservative....
Unlike the Lesbian couple in the bakery controversy, this customer didn't file a claim with the state, stating that the refusal to frame a photo had caused her to suffer from 88 symptoms of mental anguish including “doubt,” “surprise,” “uncertainty,” “worry” and a “dislike of going to work.”
"Katie Richter, a 27-year-old St. Louis native who currently lives in Aspen, CO, attended inauguration last Friday to show support for President Trump. She even hit up one of the inaugural balls (Heartland States Society Ball) with her date and snapped plenty of photos to commemorate her trip to D.C.
However, when Richter went to Suitable For Framing in Aspen to frame some photos and memorabilia like her inaugural ball ticket, she was denied service because of her support for Trump.
Befuddled, Richter took to social media to share her account.
“Wow!” She wrote in a Facebook post. “Talk about a one-way street with liberals.”
In an interview with Red Alert Politics, Richter said that when she moved to Aspen from St. Louis, she joked about having to hide her conservative opinions and deleting her Facebook account."
Trump supporter denied service: Company won’t frame inauguration photo
"Where is all the tolerance and acceptance of other's views? What happened to "females sticking together and supporting one another"? What about extending respect to others that every Anti-Trump supporter loves to gab on about?" I'll tell you where it is. It doesn't exist! They only want to hear things that align with their ideology and their deranged agenda."
Suitable for Framing - Aspen, Colorado - Home Decor | Facebook
This story makes no sense unless we see the photos.
The funniest part of this story is that the OP actually SUPPORTS the right of the framing business to discriminate against a Trump supporter,
but won't say so. Instead we get another convoluted rant about imaginary hypocrisy.
In a free country no business should be forced to serve a customer they don't want to, regardless of the reason. The issue is at the end of the day no Democrats and few Republicans actually believe in freedom.
Do you believe you should have the freedom to shoot someone you don't care for?
Yes, we would like them to be able to not serve whomever they don't want to serve, but the same goes for people who bake wedding cakes or take wedding photos. See, unlike you, we are consistent in our principles.The funny part of this, again, is that most conservatives would like Suitable for Framing to be able to discriminate like this.
And, PS, maybe we should all wait to hear the true story here, which might very well be different than the RW version,
given the Right's history of lying.
Wrong. It was mandated. Like all other douche bags, you are totally ignorant of what Jim Crow was.Yes, actually I do. However, the only time blacks were ever denied service is when Southern Democrats mandated it by law.Business has a right to such decisions unless the state's PA laws say otherwise.
In other words, they don't have that right.
Once again, you only prove you don't know what a "right" is. You're a Stalinist douche bag, Fakey.
You believe in the 'right' of a diner to refuse to serve and kick out black customers.
Wrong. It was not universally mandated. It was however ALLOWED by law.
In a free country no business should be forced to serve a customer they don't want to, regardless of the reason. The issue is at the end of the day no Democrats and few Republicans actually believe in freedom.
Do you believe you should have the freedom to shoot someone you don't care for?
No one has the right to shoot another person. However, you do have the right not to associate with people if you don't want to associate with them. To claim otherwise is fascism.