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[Not nearly as much as Medicare and Medicade...but that's not the point. You call for all these "essential" services when you have NO FUCKING MONEY TO PAY FOR THEM. That's the point. What you fail to understand is that a free market could deliver your ballots and screen airline passengers far more efficiently and effectively than a government bureaucracy and would do so without further burdening future generations with debt. Your largess is sinking the future of this country and you don't give a shit...but hey, if it makes you feel good, well, screw the kids, right?
[Not nearly as much as Medicare and Medicade...but that's not the point. You call for all these "essential" services when you have NO FUCKING MONEY TO PAY FOR THEM. That's the point. What you fail to understand is that a free market could deliver your ballots and screen airline passengers far more efficiently and effectively than a government bureaucracy and would do so without further burdening future generations with debt. Your largess is sinking the future of this country and you don't give a shit...but hey, if it makes you feel good, well, screw the kids, right?
Hey, you're the "screw the kids" guy.
A government exists for the people, to provide essential services.
Medicare and Medicaid need cost controls, yes. That's in the Affordable Health Care Act.
If I send a letter UPS, it is not delivered more cheaply than by the PO.
Please explain Americans why you Republicans support the wealthy over your own middle class?
I could never understand why the misguided mouthpieces in the Republican Party continue to make excuses for the top 1% wealthiest while dissing their own in the middle class. Cowards and Traitors, the bunch of ya. While the middle class is trying to unite against the wealthiest, some in the middle class are playing the Benedict Arnold role - all in the name of the Grand Ol' Party.
Shameless Cowards - the lot of you
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rong. The government does not exist to provide services. It exists to keep us free and to keep the borders safe. Anything else it is required to do is clearly spelled out in the Constitution...where you won't find much about "essential services".
You're right, the post office can deliver a letter for less than UPS...unless of course you include the taxes poured into the post office on top of the cost of postage. Nevertheless, a post office is required under the Constitution, so let's deal with all the other unsustainable and ineffective programs that are not.
I can't even comment on your Obamacare comment...its just too ridiculous to warrant a proper response.
Lastly, you seem to forget that all these "essential" services are not being paid for. As we close in on $15 Trillion of debt, I wonder what your plan is to pay that back.
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rong. The government does not exist to provide services. It exists to keep us free and to keep the borders safe. Anything else it is required to do is clearly spelled out in the Constitution...where you won't find much about "essential services".
Yes, flat, and that's a service.
Read the preamble.
You're right, the post office can deliver a letter for less than UPS...unless of course you include the taxes poured into the post office on top of the cost of postage. Nevertheless, a post office is required under the Constitution, so let's deal with all the other unsustainable and ineffective programs that are not.
Psst, go back and read the stuff from Wikipedia.
I can't even comment on your Obamacare comment...its just too ridiculous to warrant a proper response.
And three strikes, you're out.
Lastly, you seem to forget that all these "essential" services are not being paid for. As we close in on $15 Trillion of debt, I wonder what your plan is to pay that back.
We don't pay them back by collapsing the economy.
Part of the problem is that revenues are down due to the recession, part of the problem is that we still have the Bush era tax cuts, and part of the problem is health care costs. Which are dealt with in the AFA.
[It's the debt, and the Fed's devaluation of the dollar, that are collapsing the economy. Again, how will you pay back your share...currently over $132,000???
Please, stop with the "Bush tax cuts"! Do you realize that we could tax 100% of the rich's income (all of it!) and we still wouldn't balance THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, much less begin to chip away at the debt. It's a spending problem, not a revenue problem.
Let upper-end Bush-era tax cuts expire - The Hill's Congress BlogFirst, the Congressional Budget Office projects that not only would the short-term deficit come under control if Congress let current law stand, but the long-term deficit would, too. Austin Frakt has reproduced the chart on the Incidental Economist blog.
President Obamas call for cutting the deficit by $3 trillion includes the roll back of the Bush-era tax cuts on the top income tax brackets, a move expected to bring in about $800 billion over the next 10 years.
What your Data shows is that that bottom 20% stuck on Food Stamps and Welfare need to make a greater effort.
And that will magically make the bottom 20% disappear, so that we only have the top 80% in a hundred?
I'm sure that there's a degree of merit in what you're saying. Everybody could try harder, the poor included. But right now there are far more applicants for jobs than there are jobs. And the problem is greatest among the less educated. You can try all you like, but you can't alter reality with your thoughts.
Please explain Americans why you Republicans support the wealthy over your own middle class?
I could never understand why the misguided mouthpieces in the Republican Party continue to make excuses for the top 1% wealthiest while dissing their own in the middle class. Cowards and Traitors, the bunch of ya. While the middle class is trying to unite against the wealthiest, some in the middle class are playing the Benedict Arnold role - all in the name of the Grand Ol' Party.
Shameless Cowards - the lot of you
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For some it is simply stupid. For those who are not stupid it reflects an indoctrinated mindset which is analogous to that of Nazi neophytes. Their minds are made up and they refuse to be inconvenienced by contradictory facts.We haven't seen income equality like this since the robber barons. Ignoring that is stupid.
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The income of the richest 1 percent in the U.S. soared 275 percent from 1979 to 2007, but the bottom 20 percent grew by just 18 percent, new government data shows.
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) released a study this week that compared real after-tax household income between 1979 and 2007, which were both after recessions and had similar overall economic activity.
Income More Than Doubles for Top 1 Percent From 1979 - ABC News
Listen buds -- it's a new age here. You have to start thinking like Russians in the 80's when they watched their news. ESPECIALLY the networks..
WHY on EARTH would CBO release a report NOW about how income levels changed between 1979 and
2007
Is CBO that far behind in their data? No -- CBO works for Congress. So to gin up support for OWS -- some leftist CongressCritter went to CBO and requested that they show the LARGEST gap in incomes possible...
How better to do that then CHERRY-PICKING the data to END just prior to the market and the economy tanking in 2008?? RIGHT SMACK DAB at the top of the BOOMING BUBBLE...
To survive --- we must think PRAVDA comrade. We must have our Double-Speak decoders handy at all times. AND -- we must drink LOTS of Wodka before consuming the State-Sponsored news sources...
BTW::::
Why did this CBO report pick 1979 as the STARTING DATE???
Because you want a MONSTROUS RATIO to rattle the class warriors. And 1979 would be a MINIMUM year for wealthy income coming out of the CARTER malaise...
Smell the propaganda......
Somebody's stoking the class war fire...
Please explain Americans why you Republicans support the wealthy over your own middle class?
I could never understand why the misguided mouthpieces in the Republican Party continue to make excuses for the top 1% wealthiest while dissing their own in the middle class. Cowards and Traitors, the bunch of ya. While the middle class is trying to unite against the wealthiest, some in the middle class are playing the Benedict Arnold role - all in the name of the Grand Ol' Party.
Shameless Cowards - the lot of you
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They think they are supporting white people.
And if they, you, and everyone else all paid 17% on every dollar earned, regardless of source, and with no exceptions deductions or whatever... you would be OK with that??
Not really, because we've got a national debt problem.
Would be nice if the wealthy would pony up their fair share of at least 28 percent though.
And everyone else ponying up 28% on every dollar earned with no exceptions and no deductions, right??
DD you are a total waste of space
Yes, I do believe it.Someone needs to explain to the Russian (and you) that what he lived under in the USSR was not Socialism but Stalinism and that contemporary Denmark, which is a Socialist nation, is known to be the happiest country in the world.I would love to shake the hand of the fella trying to explain to those dumb freaks that they havne't a clue how good they have it. Even if poor in America, it's a whole lot better than most of the world, at least you have the option to work harder and better yourself. Although fewer and fewer are willing to put in the effort it takes to be successful thanks to the generous social programs.
Fuck, you can even sit on your ass in America and "deserve" a living.
Denmark: The Happiest Place on Earth - ABC News
That ignorant Russian is a perfect example of the kind of brainwashed water carriers for the One Percent who are helping to ruin America. He really believes the stupid nonsense he tried to shove down the throats of those people.
Now you don't really believe that, do you?
Sadly, you probably do.
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Income inequality does indeed destroy the middle class, which is a product of equitable distribution of wealth. The destruction is happening as you read this and we are watching it happen day by day. The American middle class is being destroyed by a corrupt legislative body, by Wall Street, by the banks and by an emerging corporatocracy.Actually income equality is wider today than the robber baron days. Therefore, when there was very little government meddling in business, we had LESS income inequality, not more. Starting to see the picture here?
More importantly, please explain why income inequality is a bad thing. If a guy is smart, works hard, makes good decisions in launching a business to sell a product that the people want, he'll make good money. How is that bad for anyone else?
Our country was strongest with a strong Middle Class. The income inequality we are experiencing is destroying the Middle Class...the ACTUAL "job creators".
Again, ignoring that is stupid...almost as stupid as thinking the free market will regulate itself and that the modern day Robber Barons will pay a living wage out of the goodness of their generous hearts.
Income inequality does not destroy the middle class! Again, show us how a guy getting rich automatically means someone else gets less. Wealth is not a finite thing. It can be created or destroyed. It's not some pie to cut up evenly!
Exploiting resources can mean something as simple as hiring someone to mow your lawn, an action in which you have made use of another (presumably) American citizen, which is a human resource. It can also mean drilling an oil well, or cutting and selling a field of timber, and on and on.The equitable redistribution of America's wealth resources via taxation is not "stealing."Excellent play of the fear card. Rape! Rape! Redistribute more wealth or there will be more rape! Go ahead and drop the race card next...it's all you central planners have.
If you feel so passionately about a safety net, stop bitching and start a charity. Stealing money from productive members of society does not a safety net create...though it does create dependence on government and less jobs for those at risk. On the other hand, get them on the dole and they'll vote your way, eh?
To further explain my reference to America's wealth; every bit of wealth one manages to acquire by exploiting this Nation's natural, material and/or human resources is a percentage of America's wealth. For one who manages to accumulate wealth via some enterprise within the United States to assume he/she could have done just as well anywhere else is sheer arrogance as well as pronounced ignorance. Therefore taxation is payment to America for services rendered and resources provided.
"Stealing" is when one takes possession of another's wealth by force, stealth or guile. But when one who has nothing steals from another who has more than he needs the crime is mitigated by simple morality. So it may be said that the preventively expedient redistribution of excessive wealth via taxation is a charitable act.
"Exploiting" resources requires payment to the legal owner of those resources. Otherwise no one would sell their land or render their labor. They already paid for those services rendered or resources provided. Are you really so thick to not get that?
Are you saying it's okay to steal from a wealth person if you are poor? Sorry, you lose on that one.
Exploiting resources can mean something as simple as hiring someone to mow your lawn, an action in which you have made use of another (presumably) American citizen, which is a human resource. It can also mean drilling an oil well, or cutting and selling a field of timber, and on and on.The equitable redistribution of America's wealth resources via taxation is not "stealing."
To further explain my reference to America's wealth; every bit of wealth one manages to acquire by exploiting this Nation's natural, material and/or human resources is a percentage of America's wealth. For one who manages to accumulate wealth via some enterprise within the United States to assume he/she could have done just as well anywhere else is sheer arrogance as well as pronounced ignorance. Therefore taxation is payment to America for services rendered and resources provided.
"Stealing" is when one takes possession of another's wealth by force, stealth or guile. But when one who has nothing steals from another who has more than he needs the crime is mitigated by simple morality. So it may be said that the preventively expedient redistribution of excessive wealth via taxation is a charitable act.
"Exploiting" resources requires payment to the legal owner of those resources. Otherwise no one would sell their land or render their labor. They already paid for those services rendered or resources provided. Are you really so thick to not get that?
Are you saying it's okay to steal from a wealth person if you are poor? Sorry, you lose on that one.
Re: your question about stealing from a wealthy person if one is poor: I don't know what you're talking about.
Income inequality does indeed destroy the middle class, which is a product of equitable distribution of wealth. The destruction is happening as you read this and we are watching it happen day by day. The American middle class is being destroyed by a corrupt legislative body, by Wall Street, by the banks and by an emerging corporatocracy.Our country was strongest with a strong Middle Class. The income inequality we are experiencing is destroying the Middle Class...the ACTUAL "job creators".
Again, ignoring that is stupid...almost as stupid as thinking the free market will regulate itself and that the modern day Robber Barons will pay a living wage out of the goodness of their generous hearts.
Income inequality does not destroy the middle class! Again, show us how a guy getting rich automatically means someone else gets less. Wealth is not a finite thing. It can be created or destroyed. It's not some pie to cut up evenly!
And wealth certainly is finite. Where do you think wealth comes from -- outer space? Wealth is material resources which are represented by money. All material resources are finite. Fiat money, i.e., money which is printed with no material resources to support it is not wealth. It either is a promise or it is fraud. But it is not true wealth.
