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We're dying for demand now, and btw small business is the real job producer, not your rich a-hole paper shufflers, dupe. The rich have have had money coming out of their ears for years thanks to bought off GOP Pols and pundits and you GOP dupes/ morons...How many jobs do you think the poor will make if we cut their taxes?These are just typical solutions anyone but the New BS GOP and its dupes would be for. We could actually lift the whole world out of this mess. Only we can. Keep screwing around long enough and we could collapse it again. Strangely, dupe, cutting taxes on the rich is not the only solution.Obama has been totally blocked DUH. What we have is the basic strength of the US economy, and no GOP corrupt bubble. But things could be a lot better if Obama could pass any of the usual solutions for this GOP pander to the rich mess: higher min wage, infrastructure jobs bill, cut payroll tax, raise taxes on the bloated rich and giant corps, cheap college and training for 3-6 MILLION tech jobs that can't be filled- for YEARS now...
Correct, that's exactly what he would do, and that would run us into the mid 20 trillion dollar debt range, cost a lot of jobs, increase college costs even more kill the already struggling programs like Medicare and SS, and chase even more companies out of the US.
That's why you never vote for Democrat leadership.
Not super technically, but in practice, all of themWould you support it? Do you think it would help heal the deep wounds? Maybe an official Government-sponsored acknowledgement and atonement could lead to reconciliation.
Most African Americans still feel anger and sorrow over how they've been treated. It does seem like an open festering wound. Maybe a kind official gesture could help African Americans forgive and get some kind of closure. What do you think?
400,000 Americans died to end slavery. Trillions have been spent on programs and welfare galore since 1965. That's atonement enough.
Sorry but that's naive. Lincoln wasn't fighting over slavery; he was fighting over the concept of "union".
Slavery was merely part of the catalyst that created that condition. But the issue was the split, i.e. political.
I know, but once Lincoln saw the opportunity to get rid of slavery once and for all, he did so. All those bluecoats who died to bring the southern states back into the fold also ended up dying to remove slavery in the process.
They deserve some recognition and thanks from blacks today.
Lincoln didn't free a single slave.
Hilariously ironic. All private schooled actually- I loved Henry II and Edsel- Trump has said everything at one time or another, he backed WAYYY off that.These are just typical solutions anyone but the New BS GOP and its dupes would be for. We could actually lift the whole world out of this mess. Only we can. Keep screwing around long enough and we could collapse it again. Strangely, dupe, cutting taxes on the rich is not the only solution.
Let's try this again for the public school challenged like yourself:
I posted a video of Donald Trump saying he thinks we should raise taxes on the rich.
I posted evidence (in another topic) how the GOP did increase taxes on the rich last time they addressed taxation.
The problem with you uninformed voters is that you are brainwashed. In spite of facts, you keep insisting that Republicans cut taxes for the rich. So do tell, when was the last time Republicans did this?
If lying were illegal in this country, the liberals could have no debate.
In the eighties, if you don't count all the non fed income taxes and the loopholes they've added for the rich...they were dragged kicking and screaming the last time the rich tax rates went up BARELY, and got all kinds of stuff in return. You have got to be kidding.
Not super technically, but in practice, all of themWould you support it? Do you think it would help heal the deep wounds? Maybe an official Government-sponsored acknowledgement and atonement could lead to reconciliation.
Most African Americans still feel anger and sorrow over how they've been treated. It does seem like an open festering wound. Maybe a kind official gesture could help African Americans forgive and get some kind of closure. What do you think?
400,000 Americans died to end slavery. Trillions have been spent on programs and welfare galore since 1965. That's atonement enough.
Sorry but that's naive. Lincoln wasn't fighting over slavery; he was fighting over the concept of "union".
Slavery was merely part of the catalyst that created that condition. But the issue was the split, i.e. political.
I know, but once Lincoln saw the opportunity to get rid of slavery once and for all, he did so. All those bluecoats who died to bring the southern states back into the fold also ended up dying to remove slavery in the process.
They deserve some recognition and thanks from blacks today.
Lincoln didn't free a single slave.
No it wasn't. The southern states despised the fact that they had to take orders from Washington DC.The Civil War was all about slavery, and after 1863 slavery was over if the North won, despite details you guys go on about forever...400,000 Americans died to end slavery. Trillions have been spent on programs and welfare galore since 1965. That's atonement enough.
Sorry but that's naive. Lincoln wasn't fighting over slavery; he was fighting over the concept of "union".
Slavery was merely part of the catalyst that created that condition. But the issue was the split, i.e. political.
I know, but once Lincoln saw the opportunity to get rid of slavery once and for all, he did so. All those bluecoats who died to bring the southern states back into the fold also ended up dying to remove slavery in the process.
They deserve some recognition and thanks from blacks today.
Well, no. Slavery wasn't outlawed until after Lincoln was dead. The war didn't do it.
The war gave the Radical Republicans the ability to push the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments through and the Emancipation Proclamation gave the northern states some moral stance to keep the war going, even though it didn't free any slaves.
"We're freeing men from bondage" as a mission statement reads a lot better in the papers than "We're like the mob: blood in, blood out."
The slavery amendments might not have been ratified until after Lincoln got shot, but they never would have been brought up if the war hadn't happened.
Because your greedy a-hole/brainwasher heroes have blocked him. While robbing you blind. Congratulations lol.We're dying for demand now, and btw small business is the real job producer, not your rich a-hole paper shufflers, dupe. The rich have have had money coming out of their ears for years thanks to bought off GOP Pols and pundits and you GOP dupes/ morons...How many jobs do you think the poor will make if we cut their taxes?These are just typical solutions anyone but the New BS GOP and its dupes would be for. We could actually lift the whole world out of this mess. Only we can. Keep screwing around long enough and we could collapse it again. Strangely, dupe, cutting taxes on the rich is not the only solution.Obama has been totally blocked DUH. What we have is the basic strength of the US economy, and no GOP corrupt bubble. But things could be a lot better if Obama could pass any of the usual solutions for this GOP pander to the rich mess: higher min wage, infrastructure jobs bill, cut payroll tax, raise taxes on the bloated rich and giant corps, cheap college and training for 3-6 MILLION tech jobs that can't be filled- for YEARS now...
Correct, that's exactly what he would do, and that would run us into the mid 20 trillion dollar debt range, cost a lot of jobs, increase college costs even more kill the already struggling programs like Medicare and SS, and chase even more companies out of the US.
That's why you never vote for Democrat leadership.
Your messiah Obama had 7 1/2 years to do something about that. Obviously he's the one who deserves the blame.
BTW, small businesses create jobs only when they turn into large businesses, and that ain't happening under Obama.
Because your greedy a-hole/brainwasher heroes have blocked him. While robbimg you blind. Congratulations lol.We're dying for demand now, and btw small business is the real job producer, not your rich a-hole paper shufflers, dupe. The rich have have had money coming out of their ears for years thanks to bought off GOP Pols and pundits and you GOP dupes/ morons...How many jobs do you think the poor will make if we cut their taxes?These are just typical solutions anyone but the New BS GOP and its dupes would be for. We could actually lift the whole world out of this mess. Only we can. Keep screwing around long enough and we could collapse it again. Strangely, dupe, cutting taxes on the rich is not the only solution.Correct, that's exactly what he would do, and that would run us into the mid 20 trillion dollar debt range, cost a lot of jobs, increase college costs even more kill the already struggling programs like Medicare and SS, and chase even more companies out of the US.
That's why you never vote for Democrat leadership.
Your messiah Obama had 7 1/2 years to do something about that. Obviously he's the one who deserves the blame.
BTW, small businesses create jobs only when they turn into large businesses, and that ain't happening under Obama.
Do you just hit "play" and leave the room?We're dying for demand now, and btw small business is the real job producer, not your rich a-hole paper shufflers, dupe. The rich have have had money coming out of their ears for years thanks to bought off GOP Pols and pundits and you GOP dupes/ morons...How many jobs do you think the poor will make if we cut their taxes?These are just typical solutions anyone but the New BS GOP and its dupes would be for. We could actually lift the whole world out of this mess. Only we can. Keep screwing around long enough and we could collapse it again. Strangely, dupe, cutting taxes on the rich is not the only solution.Obama has been totally blocked DUH. What we have is the basic strength of the US economy, and no GOP corrupt bubble. But things could be a lot better if Obama could pass any of the usual solutions for this GOP pander to the rich mess: higher min wage, infrastructure jobs bill, cut payroll tax, raise taxes on the bloated rich and giant corps, cheap college and training for 3-6 MILLION tech jobs that can't be filled- for YEARS now...
Correct, that's exactly what he would do, and that would run us into the mid 20 trillion dollar debt range, cost a lot of jobs, increase college costs even more kill the already struggling programs like Medicare and SS, and chase even more companies out of the US.
That's why you never vote for Democrat leadership.
Money and power- the greedy ones ARE the GOP, dupe.Hilariously ironic. All private schooled actually- I loved Henry II and Edsel- Trump has said everything at one time or another, he backed WAYYY off that.These are just typical solutions anyone but the New BS GOP and its dupes would be for. We could actually lift the whole world out of this mess. Only we can. Keep screwing around long enough and we could collapse it again. Strangely, dupe, cutting taxes on the rich is not the only solution.
Let's try this again for the public school challenged like yourself:
I posted a video of Donald Trump saying he thinks we should raise taxes on the rich.
I posted evidence (in another topic) how the GOP did increase taxes on the rich last time they addressed taxation.
The problem with you uninformed voters is that you are brainwashed. In spite of facts, you keep insisting that Republicans cut taxes for the rich. So do tell, when was the last time Republicans did this?
If lying were illegal in this country, the liberals could have no debate.
In the eighties, if you don't count all the non fed income taxes and the loopholes they've added for the rich...they were dragged kicking and screaming the last time the rich tax rates went up BARELY, and got all kinds of stuff in return. You have got to be kidding.
What did the rich get in return?
The south was settled mainly by people of Scottish, Irish and German immigrants.
Looking the cultural history of the Scotts and Irish, these people through history have been battered, enslaved and moved off their land. Once they settled in the Colonies, they could say they had a piece of land for which they worked and no one was going to tell them how to live on it or work it.
There is always an excuse, isn't there?.....Obama has had the bully pulpit for his entire term. He has demonstrated that he can do whatever he wants through the use of executive orders.Because your greedy a-hole/brainwasher heroes have blocked him. While robbimg you blind. Congratulations lol.We're dying for demand now, and btw small business is the real job producer, not your rich a-hole paper shufflers, dupe. The rich have have had money coming out of their ears for years thanks to bought off GOP Pols and pundits and you GOP dupes/ morons...How many jobs do you think the poor will make if we cut their taxes?These are just typical solutions anyone but the New BS GOP and its dupes would be for. We could actually lift the whole world out of this mess. Only we can. Keep screwing around long enough and we could collapse it again. Strangely, dupe, cutting taxes on the rich is not the only solution.Correct, that's exactly what he would do, and that would run us into the mid 20 trillion dollar debt range, cost a lot of jobs, increase college costs even more kill the already struggling programs like Medicare and SS, and chase even more companies out of the US.
That's why you never vote for Democrat leadership.
Your messiah Obama had 7 1/2 years to do something about that. Obviously he's the one who deserves the blame.
BTW, small businesses create jobs only when they turn into large businesses, and that ain't happening under Obama.
Did this "ooh ooh. Pick me!" moment make you feel all proud of yourself?The south was settled mainly by people of Scottish, Irish and German immigrants.
Looking the cultural history of the Scotts and Irish, these people through history have been battered, enslaved and moved off their land. Once they settled in the Colonies, they could say they had a piece of land for which they worked and no one was going to tell them how to live on it or work it.
I uh --- think you're describing Appalachia there. That's where I am, but it's not the whole "South". Summa y'all just think "the South" is some kind of monolith of a single stripe from the Mason Dixon Line to the Gulf, but around here (western NC/East Tennessee), folks voted not to secede, and stayed pretty much loyal to the Union. Not that that has anything to do with being or not being "Scotch-Irish" either -- it has much more to do with the fact that the economy here didn't involve slavery. Which in turn meant that whether slavery was abolished or not wasn't going to make a lot of impact around here.
And not that there weren't so-called "Scotch-Irish" elsewhere (meaning mainly Protestant) but outside the mountains you get a lot more English, French and even German roots. Anyway going out on a DNA limb like this is quite a stretch to try to explain 19th century politics.
The Civil War was all about slavery, and after 1863 slavery was over if the North won, despite details you guys go on about forever...400,000 Americans died to end slavery. Trillions have been spent on programs and welfare galore since 1965. That's atonement enough.
Sorry but that's naive. Lincoln wasn't fighting over slavery; he was fighting over the concept of "union".
Slavery was merely part of the catalyst that created that condition. But the issue was the split, i.e. political.
I know, but once Lincoln saw the opportunity to get rid of slavery once and for all, he did so. All those bluecoats who died to bring the southern states back into the fold also ended up dying to remove slavery in the process.
They deserve some recognition and thanks from blacks today.
Well, no. Slavery wasn't outlawed until after Lincoln was dead. The war didn't do it.
The war gave the Radical Republicans the ability to push the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments through and the Emancipation Proclamation gave the northern states some moral stance to keep the war going, even though it didn't free any slaves.
"We're freeing men from bondage" as a mission statement reads a lot better in the papers than "We're like the mob: blood in, blood out."
The slavery amendments might not have been ratified until after Lincoln got shot, but they never would have been brought up if the war hadn't happened.
Did this "ooh ooh. Pick me!" moment make you feel all proud of yourself?The south was settled mainly by people of Scottish, Irish and German immigrants.
Looking the cultural history of the Scotts and Irish, these people through history have been battered, enslaved and moved off their land. Once they settled in the Colonies, they could say they had a piece of land for which they worked and no one was going to tell them how to live on it or work it.
I uh --- think you're describing Appalachia there. That's where I am, but it's not the whole "South". Summa y'all just think "the South" is some kind of monolith of a single stripe from the Mason Dixon Line to the Gulf, but around here (western NC/East Tennessee), folks voted not to secede, and stayed pretty much loyal to the Union. Not that that has anything to do with being or not being "Scotch-Irish" either -- it has much more to do with the fact that the economy here didn't involve slavery. Which in turn meant that whether slavery was abolished or not wasn't going to make a lot of impact around here.
And not that there weren't so-called "Scotch-Irish" elsewhere (meaning mainly Protestant) but outside the mountains you get a lot more English, French and even German roots. Anyway going out on a DNA limb like this is quite a stretch to try to explain 19th century politics.
BTW, genius. in what part of the southeast, what geographical feature lies where the border of NC and TN exists?
Give you a hint. Starts with an "A" and is pronounced differently once one goes north of the Mason-Dixon Line.
BTW, scooter. I clearly used the term "mainly. it is the 5th word in the first sentence of my post.
Mainly....Not to be exclusive of all others.
Ya on that now, puddin?
You insist on using the term "free"...There is NO free. It does not exist. Someone has got to pay the bills.You think free free community colleges and public U's might be good competition? Public U's costs doubled just under W, and the GOP changed laws to make their pals' scam online U's possible. The more you know- no one making under 250k would vote GOP.One need to look no further than the federal government for the cause of rising college tuition.STILL too expensive. And GOP won't pass them.Don't obamaloans fund them?Not the administrators. And online colleges are pure GOP scams. Boooshies changed laws to make them possible just in time to screw returning GIs. Your party is a disgrace, dupe.Who are the colleges run by again? That's right, liberals. And those profit colleges are averaging a 20% profit margin. I would have no complaints if I could only invest money there.
Colleges have no incentive to control costs because the schools are sucking off the taxpayer tit.
Typical lib responseDid this "ooh ooh. Pick me!" moment make you feel all proud of yourself?The south was settled mainly by people of Scottish, Irish and German immigrants.
Looking the cultural history of the Scotts and Irish, these people through history have been battered, enslaved and moved off their land. Once they settled in the Colonies, they could say they had a piece of land for which they worked and no one was going to tell them how to live on it or work it.
I uh --- think you're describing Appalachia there. That's where I am, but it's not the whole "South". Summa y'all just think "the South" is some kind of monolith of a single stripe from the Mason Dixon Line to the Gulf, but around here (western NC/East Tennessee), folks voted not to secede, and stayed pretty much loyal to the Union. Not that that has anything to do with being or not being "Scotch-Irish" either -- it has much more to do with the fact that the economy here didn't involve slavery. Which in turn meant that whether slavery was abolished or not wasn't going to make a lot of impact around here.
And not that there weren't so-called "Scotch-Irish" elsewhere (meaning mainly Protestant) but outside the mountains you get a lot more English, French and even German roots. Anyway going out on a DNA limb like this is quite a stretch to try to explain 19th century politics.
BTW, genius. in what part of the southeast, what geographical feature lies where the border of NC and TN exists?
Give you a hint. Starts with an "A" and is pronounced differently once one goes north of the Mason-Dixon Line.
BTW, scooter. I clearly used the term "mainly. it is the 5th word in the first sentence of my post.
Mainly....Not to be exclusive of all others.
Ya on that now, puddin?
You're weird.
Typical lib responseDid this "ooh ooh. Pick me!" moment make you feel all proud of yourself?The south was settled mainly by people of Scottish, Irish and German immigrants.
Looking the cultural history of the Scotts and Irish, these people through history have been battered, enslaved and moved off their land. Once they settled in the Colonies, they could say they had a piece of land for which they worked and no one was going to tell them how to live on it or work it.
I uh --- think you're describing Appalachia there. That's where I am, but it's not the whole "South". Summa y'all just think "the South" is some kind of monolith of a single stripe from the Mason Dixon Line to the Gulf, but around here (western NC/East Tennessee), folks voted not to secede, and stayed pretty much loyal to the Union. Not that that has anything to do with being or not being "Scotch-Irish" either -- it has much more to do with the fact that the economy here didn't involve slavery. Which in turn meant that whether slavery was abolished or not wasn't going to make a lot of impact around here.
And not that there weren't so-called "Scotch-Irish" elsewhere (meaning mainly Protestant) but outside the mountains you get a lot more English, French and even German roots. Anyway going out on a DNA limb like this is quite a stretch to try to explain 19th century politics.
BTW, genius. in what part of the southeast, what geographical feature lies where the border of NC and TN exists?
Give you a hint. Starts with an "A" and is pronounced differently once one goes north of the Mason-Dixon Line.
BTW, scooter. I clearly used the term "mainly. it is the 5th word in the first sentence of my post.
Mainly....Not to be exclusive of all others.
Ya on that now, puddin?
You're weird.
Facts are factsDo you just hit "play" and leave the room?We're dying for demand now, and btw small business is the real job producer, not your rich a-hole paper shufflers, dupe. The rich have have had money coming out of their ears for years thanks to bought off GOP Pols and pundits and you GOP dupes/ morons...How many jobs do you think the poor will make if we cut their taxes?These are just typical solutions anyone but the New BS GOP and its dupes would be for. We could actually lift the whole world out of this mess. Only we can. Keep screwing around long enough and we could collapse it again. Strangely, dupe, cutting taxes on the rich is not the only solution.Obama has been totally blocked DUH. What we have is the basic strength of the US economy, and no GOP corrupt bubble. But things could be a lot better if Obama could pass any of the usual solutions for this GOP pander to the rich mess: higher min wage, infrastructure jobs bill, cut payroll tax, raise taxes on the bloated rich and giant corps, cheap college and training for 3-6 MILLION tech jobs that can't be filled- for YEARS now...
Correct, that's exactly what he would do, and that would run us into the mid 20 trillion dollar debt range, cost a lot of jobs, increase college costs even more kill the already struggling programs like Medicare and SS, and chase even more companies out of the US.
That's why you never vote for Democrat leadership.
Every one of your insipid rants has virtually the same wording.
I'm deflecting nothing. It started with the Cambridge mess, to Trayvon Martin "He could be my fucking son" and continued on until Obama has created a divide not seen since the 50's. MLK would be horrified by this pseudo president.There is nothing that can be done about it. Call it anything you want. It happened. It was wrong. We did something about it. We made laws so that it could never happen again.Of course it is because you are white. No, you didn't do anything wrong and maybe none of your ancestors did either. But some of the blacks today still want to live in the past and have excuses for their own personal failures.I'm not advocating monetary compensation. And most African Americans would say they've been enslaved long since after Slavery was abolished. In fact, you go back only a few decades to the 50's and 60's to see where they're coming from.
I grew up in the 60's so I know exactly where they are coming from. So what kind of compensation are you talking about here, and why should I be the one to compensate? Just because I'm white?
The reason it came to a frothing boil now us that our president created the atmosphere of total disrespect between the races. Our racial problem can be put squarely on the shoulders of our failed president.
Riiiiigth, three hundred years of human trafficking and abuse followed by legacies of lynchings, discrimination and various outright terrorism were just.... I dunno, bumps in the road?
What do Jews do to Germans about the Holocaust? Are they raging with indignation against all Germans for putting their family in ovens? They experienced more than a "bump in the road" but they don't hold present day Germans responsible. They are smart enough to understand that happened in history with people that no longer exist. They took responsibility for their own lives and are now contributing citizens all over the globe.
Or have I missed their protests and Jewlivesmatter at the expense of others?
You're deflecting from your own point, which was that O'bama invented racial tension.
Well ---------------- he didn't.
Regular folks didn't have slaves, their brainwashers/aristocrats did. Always the way with the dupes...No it wasn't. The southern states despised the fact that they had to take orders from Washington DC.The Civil War was all about slavery, and after 1863 slavery was over if the North won, despite details you guys go on about forever...Sorry but that's naive. Lincoln wasn't fighting over slavery; he was fighting over the concept of "union".
Slavery was merely part of the catalyst that created that condition. But the issue was the split, i.e. political.
I know, but once Lincoln saw the opportunity to get rid of slavery once and for all, he did so. All those bluecoats who died to bring the southern states back into the fold also ended up dying to remove slavery in the process.
They deserve some recognition and thanks from blacks today.
Well, no. Slavery wasn't outlawed until after Lincoln was dead. The war didn't do it.
The war gave the Radical Republicans the ability to push the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments through and the Emancipation Proclamation gave the northern states some moral stance to keep the war going, even though it didn't free any slaves.
"We're freeing men from bondage" as a mission statement reads a lot better in the papers than "We're like the mob: blood in, blood out."
The slavery amendments might not have been ratified until after Lincoln got shot, but they never would have been brought up if the war hadn't happened.
The south was settled mainly by people of Scottish, Irish and German immigrants.
Looking the cultural history of the Scotts and Irish, these people through history have been battered, enslaved and moved off their land. Once they settled in the Colonies, they could say they had a piece of land for which they worked and no one was going to tell them how to live on it or work it.
Then along comes the Central government all the way "up there in Washington" making a whole bunch of rules these people did not quite understand. They resisted. And then they told Washington to stick it. They wanted out.
Was legal slavery a part of the equation? Sure. Southerners viewed themselves as economically disadvantaged as compared to their neighbors to the North. Southerners viewed indentured servitude as a means to level the playing field. Wrong headed and cruel as it was, it was their way. After all, aristocrats in Western Europe had used lave labor for hundreds of years.
Quite frankly, I'm sick of lefty revisionist history.
