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I'm sick of business excusing their failure by putting on the 'we can't be successful without the help of government' act, a typical conservative whine. And your 'There is no tenent of conservatism that says the best way to have a successful business is to cut out all unncessary costs' is laughable.
You're right. If they need help from government to stay afloat they shouldn't be in business. I'm sure you like me, would agree we should not have bailed out the auto industry, right? However, if you think you're right about what conservatism says about how to best run a business, by all means prove it.
The reason that you can't fool me with your bullshit is that I've had too much experience with business. I've worked with intelligent CEOs with the ability to create growth and a recognition of the synergy between their company and the community in which they are permitted to operate. People who respect employees and customers and know where those people live and raise their families. People who know that innovative products and processes are what makes companies grow and they come from treating people like humans rather than interchangeable parts.
Fool you? I agree with almost all of that. I don't know why you want to continue to argue against a strawman on this.
The abject failure of conservatism is their inability to see beyond today and focus on yesterday. That makes them parasitic to success and harbingers of failure.
Wow! Projecting much? The evidence simply doesn't bare this out. The evidence is it is LIBERALS who can't see the consequences of their own actions. You advocate for crap like a living wage. Look at the mess we're already seeing with Obamacare. Look at how many people we have dependent on government in entitlement programs. All LIBERAL policies.
Explain to me how this would benefit our economy please. Why would anyone work if they had to pay more taxes than their greedy bosses who are already severely underpaying them. This would cause a revolution. But I want to hear what you think this would do please elaborate.
It would benefit our economy because there would be a reason for people to want to earn the right to have a lower effective tax rate. The more you earn the lower your effective tax rate. As I said in the subsequent post, anyone that does not pay their fair share (7500 annualy) would be put in jail. Forced to work in a labor camp maybe. Basically I'm arguing for a strengthening of vagrancy laws. I'm done carrying losers. Time for them to buck up.
Would a, 50% tax rate give you a reason to want to work?
Perhaps the reason that you are still here is that you are as ignorant of Somalia as you are of the US.
No government. Tribal rule. You can have your own army. In fact, even better, you need your own army for protection. NO TAXES.
While we are at it, lets subsidize the rich...oh wait, we already do that.
I'm sick of business excusing their failure by putting on the 'we can't be successful without the help of government' act, a typical conservative whine. And your 'There is no tenent of conservatism that says the best way to have a successful business is to cut out all unncessary costs' is laughable.
You're right. If they need help from government to stay afloat they shouldn't be in business. I'm sure you like me, would agree we should not have bailed out the auto industry, right? However, if you think you're right about what conservatism says about how to best run a business, by all means prove it.
Fool you? I agree with almost all of that. I don't know why you want to continue to argue against a strawman on this.
The abject failure of conservatism is their inability to see beyond today and focus on yesterday. That makes them parasitic to success and harbingers of failure.
Wow! Projecting much? The evidence simply doesn't bare this out. The evidence is it is LIBERALS who can't see the consequences of their own actions. You advocate for crap like a living wage. Look at the mess we're already seeing with Obamacare. Look at how many people we have dependent on government in entitlement programs. All LIBERAL policies.
Again, you continue to recite Republican propaganda from Fox, and believe that it's news. It's not. It's what they want you to believe to be useful to the party.
Believe it or not, I'm not trying to insult you, but wake you up. This is merely simple well documented truth.
It would benefit our economy because there would be a reason for people to want to earn the right to have a lower effective tax rate. The more you earn the lower your effective tax rate. As I said in the subsequent post, anyone that does not pay their fair share (7500 annualy) would be put in jail. Forced to work in a labor camp maybe. Basically I'm arguing for a strengthening of vagrancy laws. I'm done carrying losers. Time for them to buck up.
Would a, 50% tax rate give you a reason to want to work?
No, it's not even necessary.
if govt were limited to what it is supposed to do,
we'd only need 10% tax and maybe just sales tax.
Right now, with income tax, I would reward people/business with tax breaks
for directly investing/building sustainable solutions to shift burdens OFF govt
and taxpayers, and to pay taxpayers BACK for PAST govt misspending/abuses
to pay for the work instead of charging us more to fix messes they made!
We should hold national contests to solve problems, similar to TED conferences
and compete for the business, where taxpayers vote where they want to invest
their funds and subtract from taxes. So the best solutions get funded and those
responsibilities shift off govt into local programs that work effectively and sustainably.
as model programs are proven to work, more ppl would invest or duplicate those models.
You're right. If they need help from government to stay afloat they shouldn't be in business. I'm sure you like me, would agree we should not have bailed out the auto industry, right? However, if you think you're right about what conservatism says about how to best run a business, by all means prove it.
Fool you? I agree with almost all of that. I don't know why you want to continue to argue against a strawman on this.
Wow! Projecting much? The evidence simply doesn't bare this out. The evidence is it is LIBERALS who can't see the consequences of their own actions. You advocate for crap like a living wage. Look at the mess we're already seeing with Obamacare. Look at how many people we have dependent on government in entitlement programs. All LIBERAL policies.
Again, you continue to recite Republican propaganda from Fox, and believe that it's news. It's not. It's what they want you to believe to be useful to the party.
Believe it or not, I'm not trying to insult you, but wake you up. This is merely simple well documented truth.
It's documented proof that I'm using FOX news talking points? I don't watch FOX News. The reason I think what I think is because I have an objective, rationale brain. Okay. Show it to me. Get off your high horse. Take your own advice a muster a modicum of objectivty and honesty. The above doesn't even begin to refute what I said. You're the one clearly out of answers. Perhaps you are the one that needs to watch a little MSNBC to get some more liberal talking points at the very least. The above response is laughable.
Again, you continue to recite Republican propaganda from Fox, and believe that it's news. It's not. It's what they want you to believe to be useful to the party.
Believe it or not, I'm not trying to insult you, but wake you up. This is merely simple well documented truth.
It's documented proof that I'm using FOX news talking points? I don't watch FOX News. The reason I think what I think is because I have an objective, rationale brain. Okay. Show it to me. Get off your high horse. Take your own advice a muster a modicum of objectivty and honesty. The above doesn't even begin to refute what I said. You're the one clearly out of answers. Perhaps you are the one that needs to watch a little MSNBC to get some more liberal talking points at the very least. The above response is laughable.
I know lots of people who are misinformed in the same ways that you are. They all absorb massive doses of Fox News daily. Just saying.
It's not at all accurate. It's what you wish was true.
Wrong again. Actually I wish people who live in the greatest, richest, freest country in the history of man would appreciate what capitalism, which is simply economic freedom, has brought us and they were not consumed in greed and wealth envy like you are.
I believe in equal opportunity. You believe in equal results. You don't care how big the pie is or the amount of pie you get, you just want to have all the slices the same size, except for your leaders who get big slabs for the sacrifice they have to make to have ubiquitous power.
You question how much a CEO contributes to the economy, you do not question how much a politician destroys the economy. Most CEOs are good. The bad ones lose their jobs. Bad politicians preaching greed and wealth envy get elected to a second term as President.
Good enough post. Except for the 'richest' delusion. No other country ever has been so deeply in debt to others than the US is now. Being flat broke is one thing; having stupendous debts is something else.
If voters understood that the US is poor they might possibly choose different politicians.
I doubt if Brown's claims of businesses success are true
Wrong again. Actually I wish people who live in the greatest, richest, freest country in the history of man would appreciate what capitalism, which is simply economic freedom, has brought us and they were not consumed in greed and wealth envy like you are.
I believe in equal opportunity. You believe in equal results. You don't care how big the pie is or the amount of pie you get, you just want to have all the slices the same size, except for your leaders who get big slabs for the sacrifice they have to make to have ubiquitous power.
You question how much a CEO contributes to the economy, you do not question how much a politician destroys the economy. Most CEOs are good. The bad ones lose their jobs. Bad politicians preaching greed and wealth envy get elected to a second term as President.
Good enough post. Except for the 'richest' delusion. No other country ever has been so deeply in debt to others than the US is now. Being flat broke is one thing; having stupendous debts is something else.
If voters understood that the US is poor they might possibly choose different politicians.
I am not talking about the American government. Now granted the massive deficits will eventually bring the rest of us down, but I think you took the statement to be too narrow. And at least at this point if we learn and correct our ways, it's still fixable. Granted I see no hope for that, but it's not too late.
I doubt if Brown's claims of businesses success are true
How much? 100bucks? 500?
Here is an analysis of the 2001 CBO report...
Perhaps the reason that you are still here is that you are as ignorant of Somalia as you are of the US.
No government. Tribal rule. You can have your own army. In fact, even better, you need your own army for protection. NO TAXES.
Seriously troll, the shit you spew.
You have no fucking idea of what you spew - you just get programmed by the Soros hate sites and regurgitate it here.
Somalia is in a state of civil war, shit fer brains. It absolutely does have a government - one your boss would approve of, based on Sharia dictatorship.
Further, you fucking lying sack of shit, I've corrected your lying ass on this before.
{Per the Transitional Federal Charter of the Somali Republic,[35] Prime Minister Mohamed named a new Cabinet on 12 November 2010,[36] which was lauded by the international community.[37][38] As had been expected, the allotted ministerial positions were significantly reduced in numbers from 39 to 18.[36][39] Only two Ministers from the previous Cabinet were reappointed: Hussein Abdi Halane, the former Minister of Finance (Finance and Treasury) and Mohamud Abdi Ibrahim (Commerce and Industry).[40] Ahlu Sunna Waljama'a, a moderate Sufi group and an important military ally of the TFG, became Minister of the Interior and Labour ministries.[39][40] The remaining ministerial positions were largely assigned to technocrats new to the Somali political arena.[41]}
Politics of Somalia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You're a scumbag and a fuckwad - i.e. a typical democrat.
I doubt if Brown's claims of businesses success are true
How much? 100bucks? 500?
I told you, I don't need your money. I'm not for sale to anybody.
Here is an analysis of the 2001 CBO report...
CBO, LOL. I have a story for you, a true story. Do you know how CBO projections work? Don't sweat that one, it was rhetorical, I know you don't. Congress got tired of the CBO not telling them what they want to hear. Congress wanted to believe their own idiotic lies about how economics work. But the CBO kept telling them that they had to factor in that people do things like try to not pay taxes and that sort of thing in the real world. Congress kept getting mad because the CBO projections, which were based on the field of economics, didn't match what lawyers said which would happen, which was based on their being liars and idiots. So congress got frustrated.
Then Congress had an idea. Let's pass a law that the economy has to work the way we say it will!
Even they realized that might not work, so they went to the next best thing. Let's pass a law forcing the CBO to project the economy will work the way we say it will. And they did. Which is why no projection is as meaningless as a CBO projection. Here's the way it works. The CBO must project that no one will react in any way to a change in regulation or tax policy. No companies will lay anyone off. If they raise a tax by 10 times nobody will buy less of the product. Nobody will try to evade taxes or make different investment decisions because of taxes. Therefore, every tax plan will work.
Yeah, it's that stupid.
How much? 100bucks? 500?
I told you, I don't need your money. I'm not for sale to anybody.
Does that mean you suck Obama for free, or you just don't count your welfare checks as welfare since whoever's money it was didn't have a choice when Obama took it from them and gave it to you?
Don't need to tax rich more really. Just allow Unions for workers to have the upper hand. You should not be allowed to sit on billions as your workers selling and making YOUR CRAP have to apply for welfare to make ends meet. If that don't work take 75% of their wealth. Fine with me.
