[POLL] - Liberals, how much is a "fair share?" - Taxes

[PMZ]

"Now let's look at Clinton's tenure. Using the public debt figures, we see that the debt rose year by year during the first four fiscal years of Clinton's stewardship, then fell during each of the following four fiscal years, from a 1997 peak to a 2001 trough.

So using this measurement, Clinton is correct that "we paid down the debt for four years," though he did overestimate the amount that was paid down when he said it was $600 billion. The actual amount was $452 billion -- which was equal to about 12 percent of the existing public debt in 1997."

From http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...linton-says-his-administration-paid-down-deb/

 

[RKMBrown]

Clintonomics is paying down the National Debt.

Clinton didn't pay down a dime of the National debt.

He did. And if Bush had maintained his policies he would have paid off our entire debt.

Rofl. Yeah cause the dot com bubble didn't pop at the end of Clinton's term in office. Rofl. You are a special kind of fool Pms.

 

[zeke]

Clinton didn't pay down a dime of the National debt.

He did. And if Bush had maintained his policies he would have paid off our entire debt.

Rofl. Yeah cause the dot com bubble didn't pop at the end of Clinton's term in office. Rofl. You are a special kind of fool Pms.

What the fuk does the "dot com bubble" have to do with anything? If there is one thing I have learned from reading the drivel posted by people like you rkm, it is that past presidents and their actions have NOTHING to do with what happens under the current President.

That is correct? Isn't it? I mean look at what has happened under Obama and now I know that the economy Obama inherited from Bush had nothing to do with our current economic situation.

So don't be blaming Clinton for the fuk ups of Bush. Dot com bubble burst my ass. Who cares. It wasn't Clintons fault.

 

[OODA_Loop]

That is correct? Isn't it? I mean look at what has happened under Obama and now I know that the economy Obama inherited from Bush had nothing to do with our current economic situation.

Obama didn't inherit anything.

He campaigned and spent millions of dollars to take control.

And he got us nowhere.

 

[RKMBrown]

He did. And if Bush had maintained his policies he would have paid off our entire debt.

Rofl. Yeah cause the dot com bubble didn't pop at the end of Clinton's term in office. Rofl. You are a special kind of fool Pms.

What the fuk does the "dot com bubble" have to do with anything? If there is one thing I have learned from reading the drivel posted by people like you rkm, it is that past presidents and their actions have NOTHING to do with what happens under the current President.

That is correct? Isn't it? I mean look at what has happened under Obama and now I know that the economy Obama inherited from Bush had nothing to do with our current economic situation.

So don't be blaming Clinton for the fuk ups of Bush. Dot com bubble burst my ass. Who cares. It wasn't Clintons fault.

Where did I blame Clinton for the dot com bubble? Do you have a mental handicap? The economy estimates that the deficit would disappear were wiped away when the revenue popped due to the dot-com bubble pop. Then there was Katrina and 911. Both of which were not predicted. You retards give Clinton credit for the dot com bubble revenue bubble, then blame Bush for the revenue shortfall when it popped.

 

[zeke]

That is correct? Isn't it? I mean look at what has happened under Obama and now I know that the economy Obama inherited from Bush had nothing to do with our current economic situation.

Obama didn't inherit anything.

He campaigned and spent millions of dollars to take control.

And he got us nowhere.

Good God you are stupid. Obama didn't "inherit" you say.

Well let me rephrase that so that your tiny mind can grasp what I said.

Obama did not begin his Presidency that he campaigned for with an economy that didn't exist. He had to start out with the economy that was in place when he took office.

Some people that have an understanding of the English language would even say that Obama "inherited" the economy from his predecessor.

But understanding ANYTHING would rule you out. No matter how "loopy" you are.

 

[OODA_Loop]

That is correct? Isn't it? I mean look at what has happened under Obama and now I know that the economy Obama inherited from Bush had nothing to do with our current economic situation.

Obama didn't inherit anything.

He campaigned and spent millions of dollars to take control.

And he got us nowhere.

Good God you are stupid. Obama didn't "inherit" you say.

Well let me rephrase that so that your tiny mind can grasp what I said.

Obama did not begin his Presidency that he campaigned for with an economy that didn't exist. He had to start out with the economy that was in place when he took office.

Some people that have an understanding of the English language would even say that Obama "inherited" the economy from his predecessor.

But understanding ANYTHING would rule you out. No matter how "loopy" you are.

Obama proclaimed ......I am the man to fix it.....vote for me

Now he just blames others.

Total ineffectiveness as a leader.

 

[RKMBrown]

That is correct? Isn't it? I mean look at what has happened under Obama and now I know that the economy Obama inherited from Bush had nothing to do with our current economic situation.

Obama didn't inherit anything.

He campaigned and spent millions of dollars to take control.

And he got us nowhere.

Good God you are stupid. Obama didn't "inherit" you say.

Well let me rephrase that so that your tiny mind can grasp what I said.

Obama did not begin his Presidency that he campaigned for with an economy that didn't exist. He had to start out with the economy that was in place when he took office.

Some people that have an understanding of the English language would even say that Obama "inherited" the economy from his predecessor.

But understanding ANYTHING would rule you out. No matter how "loopy" you are.

Same with Bush, you mentally challenged water carrier.

 

[zeke]

Obama didn't inherit anything.

He campaigned and spent millions of dollars to take control.

And he got us nowhere.

Good God you are stupid. Obama didn't "inherit" you say.

Well let me rephrase that so that your tiny mind can grasp what I said.

Obama did not begin his Presidency that he campaigned for with an economy that didn't exist. He had to start out with the economy that was in place when he took office.

Some people that have an understanding of the English language would even say that Obama "inherited" the economy from his predecessor.

But understanding ANYTHING would rule you out. No matter how "loopy" you are.

Same with Bush, you mentally challenged water carrier.

You trying to make a point about something? What is it?

That Bush had to work with the economy that was in place when Clinton went out? OK.

That's a great point. You think Obama would have liked to have the Clinton economy when he was sworn in.

Or are you so stupid that you think the Clinton economy was worse than the Bush economy?

Or better yet. Are you going to say that the reason the Bush economy went to shit was BECAUSE of the Clinton economy?

That would be really funny if that is what you are claiming.

 

[OODA_Loop]

That Bush had to work with the economy that was in place when Clinton went out? OK.

Bush never blamed his lack of effectiveness on the actions on others or what he "inherited"

 

[RKMBrown]

Good God you are stupid. Obama didn't "inherit" you say.

Well let me rephrase that so that your tiny mind can grasp what I said.

Obama did not begin his Presidency that he campaigned for with an economy that didn't exist. He had to start out with the economy that was in place when he took office.

Some people that have an understanding of the English language would even say that Obama "inherited" the economy from his predecessor.

But understanding ANYTHING would rule you out. No matter how "loopy" you are.

Same with Bush, you mentally challenged water carrier.

You trying to make a point about something? What is it?

That Bush had to work with the economy that was in place when Clinton went out? OK.

That's a great point. You think Obama would have liked to have the Clinton economy when he was sworn in.

Or are you so stupid that you think the Clinton economy was worse than the Bush economy?

Or better yet. Are you going to say that the reason the Bush economy went to shit was BECAUSE of the Clinton economy?

That would be really funny if that is what you are claiming.

>> That Bush had to work with the economy that was in place when Clinton went out? OK.

Ayup.

>> That's a great point. You think Obama would have liked to have the Clinton economy when he was sworn in.

Thank you, and Yup I'm sure he would have preferred the relatively good days of our economy at the turn of the century.

>> Or are you so stupid that you think the Clinton economy was worse than the Bush economy?

No, I'm not. Clinton's years in office were marked by relative peace on earth, a small fraction of the welfare we have now, thanks to republican intransigence to said spending, and success of the internet based on the people of this nation pretty much creating said internet and taking advantage of the new tech.

Bush's years were marked by federal spending on disasters, wars, off-shoring and on-shoring of jobs, expansions of socialist programs, then of course the resulting drop in individual revenue of every day Americans causing a drop in real-estate prices that highlighted that so many people had no income at all and were speculators and many banks were thus gonna be left holding the bag they approved, this caused the real-estate bubble to pop due to these activities.

The issue I have with Obama is he pretty much left in place every single failed Bush policy, and even doubled down on them. Then to make matters worse he drove OCA through against the will of the people with no support from republicans at all. How do you expect to completely change an entire industry of our country, the most important one, with no input or support at all of 50% of the country?

 

[bripat9643]

Clintonomics is paying down the National Debt.

Clinton didn't pay down a dime of the National debt.

He did. And if Bush had maintained his policies he would have paid off our entire debt.

The tech bubble began its collapse in 2000 before Clinton left office. What policy of Clinton's that caused that should Bush have maintained?

 

[PMZ]

Clinton didn't pay down a dime of the National debt.

He did. And if Bush had maintained his policies he would have paid off our entire debt.

Rofl. Yeah cause the dot com bubble didn't pop at the end of Clinton's term in office. Rofl. You are a special kind of fool Pms.

Government had nothing to do with the dot.com bubble. The policies Bush needed to follow were very simple.

Stay out of war.

Tax.

It took him less than a year to screw both simple policies up.

 

[PMZ]

That Bush had to work with the economy that was in place when Clinton went out? OK.

Bush never blamed his lack of effectiveness on the actions on others or what he "inherited"

He wasn't smart enough to know. Somebody told him Reagonomics works. He believed, oh Lawd, he believed.

The rest is history.

 

[RKMBrown]

He did. And if Bush had maintained his policies he would have paid off our entire debt.

Rofl. Yeah cause the dot com bubble didn't pop at the end of Clinton's term in office. Rofl. You are a special kind of fool Pms.

Government had nothing to do with the dot.com bubble. The policies Bush needed to follow were very simple.

Stay out of war.

Tax.

It took him less than a year to screw both simple policies up.

Every once in a while you say something useful.

Yes, we should have stayed out of Iraq. To bad the democrats were for it before they were against it, before they were in charge of it, before they started even more wars than Bush did.

Yes we should have continued to tax the middle and lower income classes to keep them involved in pushing for less government spending, vs. this abortion of a plan to have half the country paying zero personal income taxes, NUTZ. To bad the democrats have maintained that policy of Bush's throughout Obama's entire term in office.

Funny how the very things you hate Bush for... you love Obama for. You should note that both parties are guilty of these sins.

 

[PMZ]

That is correct? Isn't it? I mean look at what has happened under Obama and now I know that the economy Obama inherited from Bush had nothing to do with our current economic situation.

Obama didn't inherit anything.

He campaigned and spent millions of dollars to take control.

And he got us nowhere.

How soon those short of mind forget 2007-2009.

 

[PMZ]

That Bush had to work with the economy that was in place when Clinton went out? OK.

Bush never blamed his lack of effectiveness on the actions on others or what he "inherited"

He created failure from success. There is nobody to blame but he and Cheney. Why do you think that they've been hiding out for five years? Why do you think that the GOP has been leaderless that long?

 

[OODA_Loop]

That Bush had to work with the economy that was in place when Clinton went out? OK.

Bush never blamed his lack of effectiveness on the actions on others or what he "inherited"

He created failure from success. There is nobody to blame but he and Cheney. Why do you think that they've been hiding out for five years? Why do you think that the GOP has been leaderless that long?

This is your pass for Obama ?

Again:

Bush never blamed his lack of effectiveness on the actions on others or what he "inherited"

 

[RKMBrown]

Bush never blamed his lack of effectiveness on the actions on others or what he "inherited"

He created failure from success. There is nobody to blame but he and Cheney. Why do you think that they've been hiding out for five years? Why do you think that the GOP has been leaderless that long?

This is your pass for Obama ?

Again:

Bush never blamed his lack of effectiveness on the actions on others or what he "inherited"

That's because despite Bush's bad qualities, that of an authoritarian war hawk socialist, he was a real man, not at all like Obama, the drug addicted sissy boy bastard son of a drunkard communist.

 

[PMZ]

Bush never blamed his lack of effectiveness on the actions on others or what he "inherited"

He created failure from success. There is nobody to blame but he and Cheney. Why do you think that they've been hiding out for five years? Why do you think that the GOP has been leaderless that long?

This is your pass for Obama ?

Again:

Bush never blamed his lack of effectiveness on the actions on others or what he "inherited"

Obama doesn't need a pass. He's fixed all that government can of the wreck that Bush left. And addressed our biggest national economic competitiveness anchor, health care.

The only argument to the contrary is what the Republican Party pays Faux Opinions to broadcast to the minions.