[POLL] - Liberals, how much is a "fair share?" - Taxes

[PMZ]

He created failure from success. There is nobody to blame but he and Cheney. Why do you think that they've been hiding out for five years? Why do you think that the GOP has been leaderless that long?

This is your pass for Obama ?

Again:

Bush never blamed his lack of effectiveness on the actions on others or what he "inherited"

That's because despite Bush's bad qualities, that of an authoritarian war hawk socialist, he was a real man, not at all like Obama, the drug addicted sissy boy bastard son of a drunkard communist.

He was a Texas man. Much different than a real man.

 

[RKMBrown]

He created failure from success. There is nobody to blame but he and Cheney. Why do you think that they've been hiding out for five years? Why do you think that the GOP has been leaderless that long?

This is your pass for Obama ?

Again:

Bush never blamed his lack of effectiveness on the actions on others or what he "inherited"

Obama doesn't need a pass. He's fixed all that government can of the wreck that Bush left. And addressed our biggest national economic competitiveness anchor, health care.

The only argument to the contrary is what the Republican Party pays Faux Opinions to broadcast to the minions.

ROFL Obama is so bad he can't even show his college records.

 

[PMZ]

This is your pass for Obama ?

Again:

Bush never blamed his lack of effectiveness on the actions on others or what he "inherited"

Obama doesn't need a pass. He's fixed all that government can of the wreck that Bush left. And addressed our biggest national economic competitiveness anchor, health care.

The only argument to the contrary is what the Republican Party pays Faux Opinions to broadcast to the minions.

ROFL Obama is so bad he can't even show his college records.

Once you've demonstrated success, the path to it is irrelevant. He probably didn't want to embarrass Bush with his grades.

 

[RKMBrown]

Obama doesn't need a pass. He's fixed all that government can of the wreck that Bush left. And addressed our biggest national economic competitiveness anchor, health care.

The only argument to the contrary is what the Republican Party pays Faux Opinions to broadcast to the minions.

ROFL Obama is so bad he can't even show his college records.

Once you've demonstrated success, the path to it is irrelevant. He probably didn't want to embarrass Bush with his grades.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4-AKcH3eC8]UNBELIEVABLE OBAMA GAFFES, Mistakes, Lies, and Confusion - YouTube[/ame]

 

[itfitzme]

This is your pass for Obama ?

Again:

Bush never blamed his lack of effectiveness on the actions on others or what he "inherited"

Obama doesn't need a pass. He's fixed all that government can of the wreck that Bush left. And addressed our biggest national economic competitiveness anchor, health care.

The only argument to the contrary is what the Republican Party pays Faux Opinions to broadcast to the minions.

ROFL Obama is so bad he can't even show his college records.

And your proof? Why should he?

By what principle of freedom and liberty, by what Constitutional principle, should he?

 

[OODA_Loop]

Obama doesn't need a pass. He's fixed all that government can of the wreck that Bush left. And addressed our biggest national economic competitiveness anchor, health care.

The only argument to the contrary is what the Republican Party pays Faux Opinions to broadcast to the minions.

Obama has fixed government and health care and it is just FOX lying to think otherwise ?

 

[PMZ]

Obama doesn't need a pass. He's fixed all that government can of the wreck that Bush left. And addressed our biggest national economic competitiveness anchor, health care.

The only argument to the contrary is what the Republican Party pays Faux Opinions to broadcast to the minions.

ROFL Obama is so bad he can't even show his college records.

And your proof? Why should he?

By what principle of freedom and liberty, by what Constitutional principle, should he?

The people who get prepackaged opinions from Faux Opinions on a daily basis are not equipped to defend them because they didn't form them themselves. They are merely the current repository.

What's interesting is that everyone denies watching Faux Opinions or listening to Rush. Yet there are millions of secondary propaganda outlets posting exactly the same issues and thoughts and words here.

Coincidence? I think not.

 

[OODA_Loop]

The people who get prepackaged opinions from Faux Opinions on a daily basis are not equipped to defend them because they didn't form them themselves. They are merely the current repository.

"You" really have surmised the motivation and capability of your opponent incorrectly.

I think it easy and comfortable that way.

 

[johnwk]

Originally Posted by PMZ

The people who get prepackaged opinions from Faux Opinions on a daily basis are not equipped to defend them because they didn't form them themselves. They are merely the current repository.

and:

Obama doesn't need a pass. He's fixed all that government can of the wreck that Bush left. And addressed our biggest national economic competitiveness anchor, health care.

The truth is, Obama has repeatedly ignored the rule of law and has imposed his will upon the people without their consent, impinging upon their inalienable right to make their own medical and health care decision.

If you disagree, I am sure you will defend your opinion and cite to us when the American People debated granting power to our federal government to regulate their fundamental right to make their own medical and healthcare decisions and choices! And, after having this debate, you will explain how this regulatory power was granted within the limits of Article V of our Constitution, which is the only way for our federal government to exercise new powers. Without this part of our Constitution being adhered to in passing the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act it cannot be said to be a law passed in “pursuance” of our Constitution, which our Constitution requires under Article VI

Additionally, there is another question which you may be willing to answer since you defend Obama’s actions, What specific tax mentioned in our Constitution is being levied as the “shared responsibility payment”?

Of course, I doubt if anyone here, including me, really expects you to engage in a productive discussion and shed light on the above issues raised. Your mission apparently is to troll the thread, be as obnoxious as you can, and avoid any productive discussion about the “rule of law” and the defined and limited powers granted to our federal government by our written Constitution.

Finally, I wonder why you are given “a pass” to troll the thread and constantly disrupt a productive discussion.

JWK



Obamacare by consent of the governed, Article 5, our Constitution`s amendment process. Tyranny by a majority vote in Congress or a Supreme Court's majority vote

 

[PMZ]

Obama doesn't need a pass. He's fixed all that government can of the wreck that Bush left. And addressed our biggest national economic competitiveness anchor, health care.

The only argument to the contrary is what the Republican Party pays Faux Opinions to broadcast to the minions.

Obama has fixed government and health care and it is just FOX lying to think otherwise ?

I don't know what fixing government even is. The fact that people are trying desperately to get in the country rather than leave it means to me that there's no better deal in the world.

Most of the noise about Obamacare is pure Republican propaganda delivered through Fox and Rush et al.

Go to healthcare.gov yourself. It's working fine. Call the do it by phone number. Working fine. Consider all of the private insurance policies offered. Free enterprise at work. Consider the coverage. No more insurance company loopholes. Consider the policy costs. Up as has happened every year in memory. Go to Medicare.gov. Helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, etc.

There is only one reason for the uproar. Same reason for all of the uproars over the last five years. The worst President in our history has derailed the Republican Party. Their only recourse is to try to drag our perception of the country and their competition to below their dismal performance. They do it by relentless propaganda. Through many sources but primarily through Fox News who acts like a solely owned subsidiary of the GOP.

 

[PMZ]

The people who get prepackaged opinions from Faux Opinions on a daily basis are not equipped to defend them because they didn't form them themselves. They are merely the current repository.

"You" really have surmised the motivation and capability of your opponent incorrectly.

I think it easy and comfortable that way.

I have not, of the Republican Party. I certainly have of some Republican individuals. I certainly have not of other Republican individuals.

 

[RKMBrown]

Obama doesn't need a pass. He's fixed all that government can of the wreck that Bush left. And addressed our biggest national economic competitiveness anchor, health care.

The only argument to the contrary is what the Republican Party pays Faux Opinions to broadcast to the minions.

ROFL Obama is so bad he can't even show his college records.

And your proof? Why should he?

By what principle of freedom and liberty, by what Constitutional principle, should he?

ROFL Big "L" Loooser! hehe Obuma what a dumb ass he is. He probably did believe we could keep our insurance plans after he regulated them out of existence. ROFL guy's a dumb ass. Probably due to to much cocaine & weed.

 

[ShawnChris13]

Obama doesn't need a pass. He's fixed all that government can of the wreck that Bush left. And addressed our biggest national economic competitiveness anchor, health care.

The only argument to the contrary is what the Republican Party pays Faux Opinions to broadcast to the minions.

Obama has fixed government and health care and it is just FOX lying to think otherwise ?

I don't know what fixing government even is. The fact that people are trying desperately to get in the country rather than leave it means to me that there's no better deal in the world.

Most of the noise about Obamacare is pure Republican propaganda delivered through Fox and Rush et al.

Go to healthcare.gov yourself. It's working fine. Call the do it by phone number. Working fine. Consider all of the private insurance policies offered. Free enterprise at work. Consider the coverage. No more insurance company loopholes. Consider the policy costs. Up as has happened every year in memory. Go to Medicare.gov. Helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, etc.

There is only one reason for the uproar. Same reason for all of the uproars over the last five years. The worst President in our history has derailed the Republican Party. Their only recourse is to try to drag our perception of the country and their competition to below their dismal performance. They do it by relentless propaganda. Through many sources but primarily through Fox News who acts like a solely owned subsidiary of the GOP.

Lol the great deal of free health care paying no taxes and voting for whoever you want while not proving you're a citizen.

Meanwhile the people working have to get healthcare and pay for the freeloaders by being overcharged by a blanket law that didn't actually address any of the real issues it was touted as fixing.

Yes I can see why people are jumping the border for the great deal over here.

 

[ShawnChris13]

Obama doesn't need a pass. He's fixed all that government can of the wreck that Bush left. And addressed our biggest national economic competitiveness anchor, health care.

The only argument to the contrary is what the Republican Party pays Faux Opinions to broadcast to the minions.

ROFL Obama is so bad he can't even show his college records.

And your proof? Why should he?

By what principle of freedom and liberty, by what Constitutional principle, should he?

Obama called for Romney to show his tax records because he was running for president and the American people deserved to know about his personal life. Obama claimed it was Romneys duty to share his personal life without showing his.

If you are trying to hold an office for the people, I agree and you should put yourself under the microscope of the People. Not hold double standards and lie and lie and lie and lie.

 

[itfitzme]

Obama has fixed government and health care and it is just FOX lying to think otherwise ?

I don't know what fixing government even is. The fact that people are trying desperately to get in the country rather than leave it means to me that there's no better deal in the world.

Most of the noise about Obamacare is pure Republican propaganda delivered through Fox and Rush et al.

Go to healthcare.gov yourself. It's working fine. Call the do it by phone number. Working fine. Consider all of the private insurance policies offered. Free enterprise at work. Consider the coverage. No more insurance company loopholes. Consider the policy costs. Up as has happened every year in memory. Go to Medicare.gov. Helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, etc.

There is only one reason for the uproar. Same reason for all of the uproars over the last five years. The worst President in our history has derailed the Republican Party. Their only recourse is to try to drag our perception of the country and their competition to below their dismal performance. They do it by relentless propaganda. Through many sources but primarily through Fox News who acts like a solely owned subsidiary of the GOP.

Lol the great deal of free health care paying no taxes and voting for whoever you want while not proving you're a citizen.

Meanwhile the people working have to get healthcare and pay for the freeloaders by being overcharged by a blanket law that didn't actually address any of the real issues it was touted as fixing.

Yes I can see why people are jumping the border for the great deal over here.

So you have read PPACA, or at least the table of contents, and can identify what parts of the healthcare markets are addressed and which are not?

 

[itfitzme]

ROFL Obama is so bad he can't even show his college records.

And your proof? Why should he?

By what principle of freedom and liberty, by what Constitutional principle, should he?

Obama called for Romney to show his tax records because he was running for president and the American people deserved to know about his personal life. Obama claimed it was Romneys duty to share his personal life without showing his.

If you are trying to hold an office for the people, I agree and you should put yourself under the microscope of the People. Not hold double standards and lie and lie and lie and lie.

Here are Obama's tax returns.

President Obama and Vice President Biden: 12 Years of Tax Returns ? Barack Obama

Apparently it is a long standing tradition to release tax returns.

So what point do you think you have made?

 

[ShawnChris13]

And your proof? Why should he?



By what principle of freedom and liberty, by what Constitutional principle, should he?

Obama called for Romney to show his tax records because he was running for president and the American people deserved to know about his personal life. Obama claimed it was Romneys duty to share his personal life without showing his.



If you are trying to hold an office for the people, I agree and you should put yourself under the microscope of the People. Not hold double standards and lie and lie and lie and lie.

Here are Obama's tax returns.



President Obama and Vice President Biden: 12 Years of Tax Returns ? Barack Obama



Apparently it is a long standing tradition to release tax returns.



So what point do you think you have made?

Wow really? Thinking helps a lot when you read things. But here:

Obama released his tax returns. So then Romney did.

Clinton released his school records.

Bush released his school records.

Obama pushed his school records under executive privilege so that no one could see them. You really don't see anything wrong with that? Gotta love that kool-aid.

 

[ShawnChris13]

I don't know what fixing government even is. The fact that people are trying desperately to get in the country rather than leave it means to me that there's no better deal in the world.



Most of the noise about Obamacare is pure Republican propaganda delivered through Fox and Rush et al.



Go to healthcare.gov yourself. It's working fine. Call the do it by phone number. Working fine. Consider all of the private insurance policies offered. Free enterprise at work. Consider the coverage. No more insurance company loopholes. Consider the policy costs. Up as has happened every year in memory. Go to Medicare.gov. Helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, etc.



There is only one reason for the uproar. Same reason for all of the uproars over the last five years. The worst President in our history has derailed the Republican Party. Their only recourse is to try to drag our perception of the country and their competition to below their dismal performance. They do it by relentless propaganda. Through many sources but primarily through Fox News who acts like a solely owned subsidiary of the GOP.

Lol the great deal of free health care paying no taxes and voting for whoever you want while not proving you're a citizen.



Meanwhile the people working have to get healthcare and pay for the freeloaders by being overcharged by a blanket law that didn't actually address any of the real issues it was touted as fixing.



Yes I can see why people are jumping the border for the great deal over here.

So you have read PPACA, or at least the table of contents, and can identify what parts of the healthcare markets are addressed and which are not?

You're really good at dumb questions.

Please pose an actual rebuttal if you disagree with what I said.

 

[johnwk]

I don't know what fixing government even is. .

Then why did you tell us that Obama has "... fixed all that government can of the wreck that Bush left. And addressed our biggest national economic competitiveness anchor, health care."

The truth is, Obama has repeatedly ignored the rule of law and has imposed his will upon the people without their consent, impinging upon their inalienable right to make their own medical and health care decision.

If you disagree, I am sure you will defend your opinion and cite to us when the American People debated granting power to our federal government to regulate their fundamental right to make their own medical and healthcare decisions and choices! And, after having this debate, you will explain how this regulatory power was granted within the limits of Article V of our Constitution, which is the only way for our federal government to exercise new powers. Without this part of our Constitution being adhered to in passing the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act it cannot be said to be a law passed in “pursuance” of our Constitution, which our Constitution requires under Article VI

Additionally, there is another question which you may be willing to answer since you defend Obama’s actions, What specific tax mentioned in our Constitution is being levied as the “shared responsibility payment”?

JWK




Obamacare by consent of the governed, Article 5, our Constitution`s amendment process. Tyranny by a majority vote in Congress or a Supreme Court's majority vote

 

[itfitzme]

ROFL Obama is so bad he can't even show his college records.

And your proof? Why should he?

By what principle of freedom and liberty, by what Constitutional principle, should he?

ROFL Big "L" Loooser! hehe Obuma what a dumb ass he is. He probably did believe we could keep our insurance plans after he regulated them out of existence. ROFL guy's a dumb ass. Probably due to to much cocaine & weed.

You sound exactly like someone I recently observed that didn't take her antipsychotic meds. She too got all distracted in her rants, talking about illegal drugs.

So you are actually suppose to be taking antipsychotic meds.. You are unable to concentrate appropriately and go off on irrelevant tangents.