Poll: Majority of Democrats and Republicans support Medicare for all

[BlueGin]

You actually think the hospitals take the hit? Nope the patient does. Bet they sure are glad the got that worthless insurance on the ACA exchange...not.

Better than showing up at the emergency room and getting their legs cut off, yeah.

And you know this how?

Are you on Medicare?

She's another battered housewife Republican, taking big insurance's abuse and liking it.

Who is "they"?

You do realize every ER is required to give you care. And all hospitals have a indigent fund for the poor...right?

 

[Lesh]

You actually think the hospitals take the hit? Nope the patient does. Bet they sure are glad the got that worthless insurance on the ACA exchange...not.

Better than showing up at the emergency room and getting their legs cut off, yeah.

And you know this how?

Are you on Medicare?

She's another battered housewife Republican, taking big insurance's abuse and liking it.

Who is "they"?

You do realize every ER is required to give you care. And all hospitals have a indigent fund for the poor...right?

So you want to go back to the healthcare situation we had 10 years ago...which sucked

 

[Lesh]

You mean they pay for what it costs to provide the service, and not the profit margin of six layers of corporate greed? Oh, the horror of it all!

Stupid enough to keep voting for more of this,obviously.

You actually think the hospitals take the hit? Nope the patient does. Bet they sure are glad the got that worthless insurance on the ACA exchange...not.

A. Medicare pays a hell of a lot more than "pennies" and the ACA is far from worthless.

B.What IS worthless were the catastrophic coverage plans that were allowed before the ACA.

You clearly know nothing about either

Neither Medicare or Medicaid pay for squat. Which is why you need to pay for extra supplemental coverage to go along with them or you are really screwed.

And be prepared for huge deductibles

And you know this how?

Are you on Medicare?

Evidently you know nothing about Medicare.

Are you talking to me? I'm 64. Almost everyone I know is on Medicare.

 

[BlueGin]

You actually think the hospitals take the hit? Nope the patient does. Bet they sure are glad the got that worthless insurance on the ACA exchange...not.

Better than showing up at the emergency room and getting their legs cut off, yeah.

And you know this how?

Are you on Medicare?

She's another battered housewife Republican, taking big insurance's abuse and liking it.

Who is "they"?

You do realize every ER is required to give you care. And all hospitals have a indigent fund for the poor...right?

So you want to go back to the healthcare situation we had 10 years ago...which sucked

Obamacare is not sustainable. If you want to keep it Hospitals will go under. They can't afford to pay for your freebies AND your penalties.

 

[Thinker101]

You actually think the hospitals take the hit? Nope the patient does. Bet they sure are glad the got that worthless insurance on the ACA exchange...not.

A. Medicare pays a hell of a lot more than "pennies" and the ACA is far from worthless.

B.What IS worthless were the catastrophic coverage plans that were allowed before the ACA.

You clearly know nothing about either

Neither Medicare or Medicaid pay for squat. Which is why you need to pay for extra supplemental coverage to go along with them or you are really screwed.

And be prepared for huge deductibles

And you know this how?

Are you on Medicare?

Evidently you know nothing about Medicare.

Are you talking to me? I'm 64. Almost everyone I know is on Medicare.

Then you ought to know how much Medicare costs, and supplemental, and how little it pays.

 

[Lesh]

A. Medicare pays a hell of a lot more than "pennies" and the ACA is far from worthless.

B.What IS worthless were the catastrophic coverage plans that were allowed before the ACA.

You clearly know nothing about either

Neither Medicare or Medicaid pay for squat. Which is why you need to pay for extra supplemental coverage to go along with them or you are really screwed.

And be prepared for huge deductibles

And you know this how?

Are you on Medicare?

Evidently you know nothing about Medicare.

Are you talking to me? I'm 64. Almost everyone I know is on Medicare.

Then you ought to know how much Medicare costs, and supplemental, and how little it pays.

It covers roughly 80% ...

Which is a hell of a lot more than you are claiming

 

[Thinker101]

Neither Medicare or Medicaid pay for squat. Which is why you need to pay for extra supplemental coverage to go along with them or you are really screwed.

And be prepared for huge deductibles

And you know this how?

Are you on Medicare?

Evidently you know nothing about Medicare.

Are you talking to me? I'm 64. Almost everyone I know is on Medicare.

Then you ought to know how much Medicare costs, and supplemental, and how little it pays.

It covers roughly 80% ...

Which is a hell of a lot more than you are claiming

Yeah, you're not on Medicare...so you can cut the BS.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You actually think the hospitals take the hit? Nope the patient does. Bet they sure are glad the got that worthless insurance on the ACA exchange...not.

Better than showing up at the emergency room and getting their legs cut off, yeah.

And you know this how?

Are you on Medicare?

She's another battered housewife Republican, taking big insurance's abuse and liking it.

Who is "they"?

You do realize every ER is required to give you care. And all hospitals have a indigent fund for the poor...right?

So you want to go back to the healthcare situation we had 10 years ago...which sucked

I sure would, at least I had coverage then.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

edicaid/ Medicare don't pay for squat. They reimburse pennies on the dollar and expect the healthcare providers to eat the rest.

You mean they pay for what it costs to provide the service, and not the profit margin of six layers of corporate greed? Oh, the horror of it all!

Government took $14 TRILLION to bailout Wallstreet, yet you claim there is no way to provide healthcare. How stupid are you?

Stupid enough to keep voting for more of this,obviously.

You actually think the hospitals take the hit? Nope the patient does. Bet they sure are glad the got that worthless insurance on the ACA exchange...not.

A. Medicare pays a hell of a lot more than "pennies" and the ACA is far from worthless.

B.What IS worthless were the catastrophic coverage plans that were allowed before the ACA.

You clearly know nothing about either

Apparently you don't. Commie Care plans are worse than anything I've ever seen on the private market. High price barely any coverage plans. For the price of a mortgage every month, they give you a plan with a 7K deductible, 7K out of pocket, no dental, no prescriptions.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

you think Cigna is going to pay for an 87 year old with chronic health problems?

WTF does Cigna have to do with what I'm talking about?

Much like Gun control, every other country has single payer... every other country is doing far better in the important metrics.

Yeah? Well if you'd read links, I'd prove you wrong.

 

[BlueGin]

edicaid/ Medicare don't pay for squat. They reimburse pennies on the dollar and expect the healthcare providers to eat the rest.

You mean they pay for what it costs to provide the service, and not the profit margin of six layers of corporate greed? Oh, the horror of it all!

Government took $14 TRILLION to bailout Wallstreet, yet you claim there is no way to provide healthcare. How stupid are you?

Stupid enough to keep voting for more of this,obviously.

You actually think the hospitals take the hit? Nope the patient does. Bet they sure are glad the got that worthless insurance on the ACA exchange...not.

A. Medicare pays a hell of a lot more than "pennies" and the ACA is far from worthless.

B.What IS worthless were the catastrophic coverage plans that were allowed before the ACA.

You clearly know nothing about either

Apparently you don't. Commie Care plans are worse than anything I've ever seen on the private market. High price barely any coverage plans. For the price of a mortgage every month, they give you a plan with a 7K deductible, 7K out of pocket, no dental, no prescriptions.

Even the suplemental plans don't cover everything. If patients are getting "free" care it's because the hospitals have an agreement with Medicare and the senior plans to eat the balance rather that fight for that balance with them. And trust me those unpaid balances are far more than what Medicare/Medicaid cover.

 

[BlueGin]

edicaid/ Medicare don't pay for squat. They reimburse pennies on the dollar and expect the healthcare providers to eat the rest.

You mean they pay for what it costs to provide the service, and not the profit margin of six layers of corporate greed? Oh, the horror of it all!

Government took $14 TRILLION to bailout Wallstreet, yet you claim there is no way to provide healthcare. How stupid are you?

Stupid enough to keep voting for more of this,obviously.

You actually think the hospitals take the hit? Nope the patient does. Bet they sure are glad the got that worthless insurance on the ACA exchange...not.

A. Medicare pays a hell of a lot more than "pennies" and the ACA is far from worthless.

B.What IS worthless were the catastrophic coverage plans that were allowed before the ACA.

You clearly know nothing about either

Apparently you don't. Commie Care plans are worse than anything I've ever seen on the private market. High price barely any coverage plans. For the price of a mortgage every month, they give you a plan with a 7K deductible, 7K out of pocket, no dental, no prescriptions.

No hearing aid's or batteries. Everything senior's actually need.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

edicaid/ Medicare don't pay for squat. They reimburse pennies on the dollar and expect the healthcare providers to eat the rest.

You mean they pay for what it costs to provide the service, and not the profit margin of six layers of corporate greed? Oh, the horror of it all!

Government took $14 TRILLION to bailout Wallstreet, yet you claim there is no way to provide healthcare. How stupid are you?

Stupid enough to keep voting for more of this,obviously.

You actually think the hospitals take the hit? Nope the patient does. Bet they sure are glad the got that worthless insurance on the ACA exchange...not.

A. Medicare pays a hell of a lot more than "pennies" and the ACA is far from worthless.

B.What IS worthless were the catastrophic coverage plans that were allowed before the ACA.

You clearly know nothing about either

Apparently you don't. Commie Care plans are worse than anything I've ever seen on the private market. High price barely any coverage plans. For the price of a mortgage every month, they give you a plan with a 7K deductible, 7K out of pocket, no dental, no prescriptions.

Even the suplemental plans don't cover everything. If patients are getting "free" care it's because the hospitals have an agreement with Medicare and the senior plans to eat the balance rather that fight for that balance with them. And trust me those unpaid balances are far more than what Medicare/Medicaid cover.

My father thought well in advance. He has secondary coverage and he's also a war vet so he can go to the VA anytime he wants. He does so to get his medication that's too expensive otherwise.

 

[BlueGin]

You mean they pay for what it costs to provide the service, and not the profit margin of six layers of corporate greed? Oh, the horror of it all!

Stupid enough to keep voting for more of this,obviously.

You actually think the hospitals take the hit? Nope the patient does. Bet they sure are glad the got that worthless insurance on the ACA exchange...not.

A. Medicare pays a hell of a lot more than "pennies" and the ACA is far from worthless.

B.What IS worthless were the catastrophic coverage plans that were allowed before the ACA.

You clearly know nothing about either

Apparently you don't. Commie Care plans are worse than anything I've ever seen on the private market. High price barely any coverage plans. For the price of a mortgage every month, they give you a plan with a 7K deductible, 7K out of pocket, no dental, no prescriptions.

Even the suplemental plans don't cover everything. If patients are getting "free" care it's because the hospitals have an agreement with Medicare and the senior plans to eat the balance rather that fight for that balance with them. And trust me those unpaid balances are far more than what Medicare/Medicaid cover.

My father thought well in advance. He has secondary coverage and he's also a war vet so he can go to the VA anytime he wants. He does so to get his medication that's too expensive otherwise.

Many people do pay for a tertiary. You almost have to these days.

 

[BlueGin]

Absolutely. My father is 87 now, and he's had his share of ailments and surgeries. He is pretty much in the middle politically. He used to lean right until the Democrats scared the hell out of him saying what the Republicans wanted to take away from him. In any case, he tells me how much Medicare pays on his behalf, and it's less than 2/3. Some of his surgeries were six figures as well.

you think Cigna is going to pay for an 87 year old with chronic health problems?

Translation....

Majority of democrats and republicans don't understand how this will destroy healthcare in this country...

Much like Gun control, every other country has single payer... every other country is doing far better in the important metrics.

You have heard of Cigna AARP? Yes?

 

[BlueGin]

edicaid/ Medicare don't pay for squat. They reimburse pennies on the dollar and expect the healthcare providers to eat the rest.

You mean they pay for what it costs to provide the service, and not the profit margin of six layers of corporate greed? Oh, the horror of it all!

Government took $14 TRILLION to bailout Wallstreet, yet you claim there is no way to provide healthcare. How stupid are you?

Stupid enough to keep voting for more of this,obviously.

Yes. Corporate greed being the money to pay the people in admissions,the doctors,nursing ,ER staff,X-ray, ICU,NICU,therapy,medical tech's, security,social work,pharmacy,food services,maintenance,janitorial services etc...

 

[KissMy]

Under Medicare the Doc did routine blood test on Dad & discovered his red blood-cells were extremely low. They called saying take him to ER right away for blood transfusion. So we did & they looked him over, admitted him & gave him 4 pints over 2 days. Took him to a specialist who found colon cancer causing blood loss. Scheduled surgery for a few days later. 2 days later he was out farming, riding 4 wheeler when he got hit by a car traveling 60/mph. That scalped his head, broke his neck in 2 places, broke his back, pelvis, knee, arm & lots of road rash,

Medicare has been covering all this just fine. He has had great care & getting excellent rehab. We are all amazed he survived all this at 79-80 yrs old. Even more amazing, is they cured his cancer, sowed his scalp back on, mended bones, have him up & walking in rehab 6 hours a day. He will be out in a couple weeks & back to normal in a few months. Medicare is great coverage! Cheapo insurance would be flying their executives by helicopters to their jets, yachts & paradise islands to hide money while Dad died!

 

[JoeB131]

Who is "they"?

You do realize every ER is required to give you care. And all hospitals have a indigent fund for the poor...right?

Have you seen the quality of care they give people in ER's. It's pretty much "Make sure they don't die here."

 

[RealDave]

'A Reuters/Ipsos poll shows 85% of Democrats and 52% of Republicans support Medicare for all.

Why it matters: This single-payer system has divided the Democratic Party internally and gave Republicans a new way to attack Democrats in 2018. But this poll is the first to suggest that a majority of Americans on both sides of the aisle actually like this policy and that it could be a winning issue for candidates.

By the numbers: Two-thirds of Democratic nominees in 41 battleground House districts "want to expand the government’s role in healthcare," per Reuters.

• At least 70 House Democrats have joined the "Medicare for All" caucus, with more expected after the November midterms.
• And most House Dems support a Medicare for All bill, which has "six members of the Blue Dog caucus of fiscally conservative Democrats signing on as co-sponsors," Reuters notes.

Be smart: This policy is only going to get more attention as we head into the 2020 presidential election, when it will likely be a litmus test for Democratic candidates.'

Poll: Majority of Democrats and Republicans support Medicare for all

For better or worse - like it or not - it looks like single payer will become a fact of life in America is inevitable.

I support a car for every single American over the age of 16 too. Oh but wait...how are we going to PAY for it?

That's when the support plummets, amirite?

It is cheaper than our current system.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes. Corporate greed being the money to pay the people in admissions,the doctors,nursing ,ER staff,X-ray, ICU,NICU,therapy,medical tech's, security,social work,pharmacy,food services,maintenance,janitorial services etc...

And the stockholders..

And the executives who get 9 figure severance packages while they deny liver transplants to teens.

Again, I know you are a typical battered housewife Republican who thinks we should all take whatever abuse big corporations give us... but, um. No.