President seeks to get rid of all nuclear weapons

[Redfish]

This is too important for petulant argument. Obama is incapable of negotiating this. He has neither the instinct or skills. Even his most die-hard supporters must know that. He'll be gone in a less than a couple of years and even a washed up Hilary would be better suited, if it comes to that.

Another ridiculous republican claim

Only Republicans are capable of keeping us safe

Only a fool would pit Obama against Putin. It is not going to happen.

I said nothing about Republicans and even allowed for Hilary.

Let's look at recent foreign policy history

The party that allowed the 9-11 attacks, trumped up reasons to invade Iraq, botched two wars and engaged in torture should be trusted to deal with Russia

As you recall, it was Obama who declared the Iraq invasion to be a foolish endeavor

We did talk about importance and petulance, right?

Anyway, wtf does that have to do with Obama's unsuitability to enter negotiations with Putin? For reasons of national security, they must be kept as far away form each other as possible. The State Department and CIA know this all too well, as does just about everyone else. Another 20 months is not going to make a lot of difference anyway

Obama is more than capable of handling Putin. It is Putin that has made his country an international pariah. It is Obama who is pushing the sanctions

Of the two, Obama is way ahead

Please! I understand that you are trying to defend a failed president, but that is going way too far.

Seriously?

Compared to Putin? Putin is destroying his economy and his global standing

Obama just sits back and laughs as Putin struggles

Like him or hate him, Putin is a leader. Obama is not.

Putin has demonstrated what type of leader he is......an inept leader
A leader unable to understand Russia's role in a global community and the impact that community has on his nation

Meanwhile, Obama garners the forces of the free world against Russia and is pressuring them to cease their actions

That is what a leader does

are you really that stupid or are you paid to post this shit?

 

[Faun]

Putin has demonstrated what type of leader he is......an inept leader
A leader unable to understand Russia's role in a global community and the impact that community has on his nation

Meanwhile, Obama garners the forces of the free world against Russia and is pressuring them to cease their actions

That is what a leader does

Yeah, and as soon as Russian troops roll into Berlin then he'll really get angry!

How much better rightwingnuts would sleep if they didn't have a boogieman lurking under their bed.

 

[Redfish]

Putin has demonstrated what type of leader he is......an inept leader
A leader unable to understand Russia's role in a global community and the impact that community has on his nation

Meanwhile, Obama garners the forces of the free world against Russia and is pressuring them to cease their actions

That is what a leader does

Yeah, and as soon as Russian troops roll into Berlin then he'll really get angry!

How much better rightwingnuts would sleep if they didn't have a boogieman lurking under their bed.

radical islamists are determined to kill us----------that is not a boogieman, its a real threat.

you lefties condemned Bush for not recognizing it, and now you celebrate Obama for not recognizing it--------------------------said another way, you are lying hypocrites.

 

[rightwinger]

Putin has demonstrated what type of leader he is......an inept leader
A leader unable to understand Russia's role in a global community and the impact that community has on his nation

Meanwhile, Obama garners the forces of the free world against Russia and is pressuring them to cease their actions

That is what a leader does

Yeah, and as soon as Russian troops roll into Berlin then he'll really get angry!

Germany would kick his ass

Putin is learning a lesson on leadership. You don't get to play by your own rules in an international environment

Hard to believe Conservatives actually call that leadership

Don't be silly. Obama is the only person in the world who can check Putin. Instead, Putin is using him as a doormat. It's like asking why dogs lick their balls.

Unlike a clueless leader such as Putin! who believes might makes right. Obama understands the power of the US/EU alliance

Obama is a global leader.....Putin is a bully

 

[Faun]

Putin has demonstrated what type of leader he is......an inept leader
A leader unable to understand Russia's role in a global community and the impact that community has on his nation

Meanwhile, Obama garners the forces of the free world against Russia and is pressuring them to cease their actions

That is what a leader does

Yeah, and as soon as Russian troops roll into Berlin then he'll really get angry!

How much better rightwingnuts would sleep if they didn't have a boogieman lurking under their bed.

radical islamists are determined to kill us----------that is not a boogieman, its a real threat.

you lefties condemned Bush for not recognizing it, and now you celebrate Obama for not recognizing it--------------------------said another way, you are lying hypocrites.

Rough estimates ... Number of Americans killed by Islamic terrorists over the last 20 years ... less than 4,000; number of Americans killed by firearms over that period ... no less than 300,000. Seems to me your imaginary fears are misplaced.

 

[rightwinger]

Putin has demonstrated what type of leader he is......an inept leader
A leader unable to understand Russia's role in a global community and the impact that community has on his nation

Meanwhile, Obama garners the forces of the free world against Russia and is pressuring them to cease their actions

That is what a leader does

Yeah, and as soon as Russian troops roll into Berlin then he'll really get angry!

How much better rightwingnuts would sleep if they didn't have a boogieman lurking under their bed.

radical islamists are determined to kill us----------that is not a boogieman, its a real threat.

you lefties condemned Bush for not recognizing it, and now you celebrate Obama for not recognizing it--------------------------said another way, you are lying hypocrites.

Rough estimates ... Number of Americans killed by Islamic terrorists over the last 20 years ... less than 4,000; number of Americans killed by firearms over that period ... no less than 300,000. Seems to me your imaginary fears are misplaced.

But guns keep us safe

 

[Faun]

Putin has demonstrated what type of leader he is......an inept leader
A leader unable to understand Russia's role in a global community and the impact that community has on his nation

Meanwhile, Obama garners the forces of the free world against Russia and is pressuring them to cease their actions

That is what a leader does

Yeah, and as soon as Russian troops roll into Berlin then he'll really get angry!

How much better rightwingnuts would sleep if they didn't have a boogieman lurking under their bed.

radical islamists are determined to kill us----------that is not a boogieman, its a real threat.

you lefties condemned Bush for not recognizing it, and now you celebrate Obama for not recognizing it--------------------------said another way, you are lying hypocrites.

Rough estimates ... Number of Americans killed by Islamic terrorists over the last 20 years ... less than 4,000; number of Americans killed by firearms over that period ... no less than 300,000. Seems to me your imaginary fears are misplaced.

But guns keep us safe

Don't tell that to the family of Charles Vacca (rip).

 

[Redfish]

Putin has demonstrated what type of leader he is......an inept leader
A leader unable to understand Russia's role in a global community and the impact that community has on his nation

Meanwhile, Obama garners the forces of the free world against Russia and is pressuring them to cease their actions

That is what a leader does

Yeah, and as soon as Russian troops roll into Berlin then he'll really get angry!

Germany would kick his ass

Putin is learning a lesson on leadership. You don't get to play by your own rules in an international environment

Hard to believe Conservatives actually call that leadership

Don't be silly. Obama is the only person in the world who can check Putin. Instead, Putin is using him as a doormat. It's like asking why dogs lick their balls.

Unlike a clueless leader such as Putin! who believes might makes right. Obama understands the power of the US/EU alliance

Obama is a global leader.....Putin is a bully

Putin is a man. Obama is a pussy boy. Obama a leader? are your fricken crazy? Who is he leading? 65% of americans think he is a failure. The world is laughing at his incompetence.

Putin may be a KGB asshole and a tyrant, but he is leading his country and trying to make it stronger.

We may not like him or what he is doing, but the topic is leadership.

 

[Redfish]

Putin has demonstrated what type of leader he is......an inept leader
A leader unable to understand Russia's role in a global community and the impact that community has on his nation

Meanwhile, Obama garners the forces of the free world against Russia and is pressuring them to cease their actions

That is what a leader does

Yeah, and as soon as Russian troops roll into Berlin then he'll really get angry!

How much better rightwingnuts would sleep if they didn't have a boogieman lurking under their bed.

radical islamists are determined to kill us----------that is not a boogieman, its a real threat.

you lefties condemned Bush for not recognizing it, and now you celebrate Obama for not recognizing it--------------------------said another way, you are lying hypocrites.

Rough estimates ... Number of Americans killed by Islamic terrorists over the last 20 years ... less than 4,000; number of Americans killed by firearms over that period ... no less than 300,000. Seems to me your imaginary fears are misplaced.

But guns keep us safe

Enforcement of laws keeps us safe. Getting criminals off the streets keeps us safe. Keeping criminals from crossing our borders keeps us safe. A strong military keeps us safe.

Safety has nothing to do with guns.

 

[rightwinger]

Putin has demonstrated what type of leader he is......an inept leader
A leader unable to understand Russia's role in a global community and the impact that community has on his nation

Meanwhile, Obama garners the forces of the free world against Russia and is pressuring them to cease their actions

That is what a leader does

Yeah, and as soon as Russian troops roll into Berlin then he'll really get angry!

Germany would kick his ass

Putin is learning a lesson on leadership. You don't get to play by your own rules in an international environment

Hard to believe Conservatives actually call that leadership

Don't be silly. Obama is the only person in the world who can check Putin. Instead, Putin is using him as a doormat. It's like asking why dogs lick their balls.

Unlike a clueless leader such as Putin! who believes might makes right. Obama understands the power of the US/EU alliance

Obama is a global leader.....Putin is a bully

Putin is a man. Obama is a pussy boy. Obama a leader? are your fricken crazy? Who is he leading? 65% of americans think he is a failure. The world is laughing at his incompetence.

Putin may be a KGB asshole and a tyrant, but he is leading his country and trying to make it stronger.

We may not like him or what he is doing, but the topic is leadership.

Putin substitutes bullying tactics for effective leadership

Republicans think real leaders invade those they differ with. A true leader avoids armed conflict

 

[Statistikhengst]

Putin has demonstrated what type of leader he is......an inept leader
A leader unable to understand Russia's role in a global community and the impact that community has on his nation

Meanwhile, Obama garners the forces of the free world against Russia and is pressuring them to cease their actions

That is what a leader does

Yeah, and as soon as Russian troops roll into Berlin then he'll really get angry!

Germany would kick his ass

Putin is learning a lesson on leadership. You don't get to play by your own rules in an international environment

Hard to believe Conservatives actually call that leadership

Don't be silly. Obama is the only person in the world who can check Putin. Instead, Putin is using him as a doormat. It's like asking why dogs lick their balls.

Unlike a clueless leader such as Putin! who believes might makes right. Obama understands the power of the US/EU alliance

Obama is a global leader.....Putin is a bully

Putin is a man. Obama is a pussy boy. Obama a leader? are your fricken crazy? Who is he leading? 65% of americans think he is a failure. The world is laughing at his incompetence.

Putin may be a KGB asshole and a tyrant, but he is leading his country and trying to make it stronger.

We may not like him or what he is doing, but the topic is leadership.

Putin substitutes bullying tactics for effective leadership

Republicans think real leaders invade those they differ with. A true leader avoids armed conflict

The best way to win a war - is to not fight one in the first place.

 

[Jroc]

Putin has demonstrated what type of leader he is......an inept leader
A leader unable to understand Russia's role in a global community and the impact that community has on his nation

Meanwhile, Obama garners the forces of the free world against Russia and is pressuring them to cease their actions

That is what a leader does

Yeah, and as soon as Russian troops roll into Berlin then he'll really get angry!

Germany would kick his ass

Putin is learning a lesson on leadership. You don't get to play by your own rules in an international environment

Hard to believe Conservatives actually call that leadership

Don't be silly. Obama is the only person in the world who can check Putin. Instead, Putin is using him as a doormat. It's like asking why dogs lick their balls.

Unlike a clueless leader such as Putin! who believes might makes right. Obama understands the power of the US/EU alliance

Obama is a global leader.....Putin is a bully

Putin is a man. Obama is a pussy boy. Obama a leader? are your fricken crazy? Who is he leading? 65% of americans think he is a failure. The world is laughing at his incompetence.

Putin may be a KGB asshole and a tyrant, but he is leading his country and trying to make it stronger.

We may not like him or what he is doing, but the topic is leadership.

Putin substitutes bullying tactics for effective leadership

Republicans think real leaders invade those they differ with. A true leader avoids armed conflict

yeah right "peace through strength"

 

[Faun]

Putin has demonstrated what type of leader he is......an inept leader
A leader unable to understand Russia's role in a global community and the impact that community has on his nation

Meanwhile, Obama garners the forces of the free world against Russia and is pressuring them to cease their actions

That is what a leader does

Yeah, and as soon as Russian troops roll into Berlin then he'll really get angry!

Germany would kick his ass

Putin is learning a lesson on leadership. You don't get to play by your own rules in an international environment

Hard to believe Conservatives actually call that leadership

Don't be silly. Obama is the only person in the world who can check Putin. Instead, Putin is using him as a doormat. It's like asking why dogs lick their balls.

Unlike a clueless leader such as Putin! who believes might makes right. Obama understands the power of the US/EU alliance

Obama is a global leader.....Putin is a bully

Putin is a man. Obama is a pussy boy. Obama a leader? are your fricken crazy? Who is he leading? 65% of americans think he is a failure. The world is laughing at his incompetence.

Putin may be a KGB asshole and a tyrant, but he is leading his country and trying to make it stronger.

We may not like him or what he is doing, but the topic is leadership.

Rather than make up bullshit poll numbers, let's take a look at actual numbers from the most recent poll on leadership, shall we?

Do you think Barack Obama has strong qualities of leadership, or not?

• Does have: 50%
• Does not have: 47%

CBS News Poll. July 29-Aug. 4, 2014. N=1,344 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3

 

[Redfish]

Putin has demonstrated what type of leader he is......an inept leader
A leader unable to understand Russia's role in a global community and the impact that community has on his nation

Meanwhile, Obama garners the forces of the free world against Russia and is pressuring them to cease their actions

That is what a leader does

Yeah, and as soon as Russian troops roll into Berlin then he'll really get angry!

Germany would kick his ass

Putin is learning a lesson on leadership. You don't get to play by your own rules in an international environment

Hard to believe Conservatives actually call that leadership

Don't be silly. Obama is the only person in the world who can check Putin. Instead, Putin is using him as a doormat. It's like asking why dogs lick their balls.

Unlike a clueless leader such as Putin! who believes might makes right. Obama understands the power of the US/EU alliance

Obama is a global leader.....Putin is a bully

Putin is a man. Obama is a pussy boy. Obama a leader? are your fricken crazy? Who is he leading? 65% of americans think he is a failure. The world is laughing at his incompetence.

Putin may be a KGB asshole and a tyrant, but he is leading his country and trying to make it stronger.

We may not like him or what he is doing, but the topic is leadership.

Rather than make up bullshit poll numbers, let's take a look at actual numbers from the most recent poll on leadership, shall we?

Do you think Barack Obama has strong qualities of leadership, or not?

• Does have: 50%
• Does not have: 47%

CBS News Poll. July 29-Aug. 4, 2014. N=1,344 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3

So, based on that poll, 672 people out of 330,000,000 think that obama has leadership qualities------------------------------------------------------------ and somehow you think that means something ?

 

[Redfish]

Putin has demonstrated what type of leader he is......an inept leader
A leader unable to understand Russia's role in a global community and the impact that community has on his nation

Meanwhile, Obama garners the forces of the free world against Russia and is pressuring them to cease their actions

That is what a leader does

Yeah, and as soon as Russian troops roll into Berlin then he'll really get angry!

Germany would kick his ass

Putin is learning a lesson on leadership. You don't get to play by your own rules in an international environment

Hard to believe Conservatives actually call that leadership

Don't be silly. Obama is the only person in the world who can check Putin. Instead, Putin is using him as a doormat. It's like asking why dogs lick their balls.

Unlike a clueless leader such as Putin! who believes might makes right. Obama understands the power of the US/EU alliance

Obama is a global leader.....Putin is a bully

Putin is a man. Obama is a pussy boy. Obama a leader? are your fricken crazy? Who is he leading? 65% of americans think he is a failure. The world is laughing at his incompetence.

Putin may be a KGB asshole and a tyrant, but he is leading his country and trying to make it stronger.

We may not like him or what he is doing, but the topic is leadership.

Putin substitutes bullying tactics for effective leadership

Republicans think real leaders invade those they differ with. A true leader avoids armed conflict

Was FDR a leader? How about JFK? Truman? All dems who engaged the USA in armed conflict.

 

[rightwinger]

Putin has demonstrated what type of leader he is......an inept leader
A leader unable to understand Russia's role in a global community and the impact that community has on his nation

Meanwhile, Obama garners the forces of the free world against Russia and is pressuring them to cease their actions

That is what a leader does

Yeah, and as soon as Russian troops roll into Berlin then he'll really get angry!

Germany would kick his ass

Putin is learning a lesson on leadership. You don't get to play by your own rules in an international environment

Hard to believe Conservatives actually call that leadership

Don't be silly. Obama is the only person in the world who can check Putin. Instead, Putin is using him as a doormat. It's like asking why dogs lick their balls.

Unlike a clueless leader such as Putin! who believes might makes right. Obama understands the power of the US/EU alliance

Obama is a global leader.....Putin is a bully

Putin is a man. Obama is a pussy boy. Obama a leader? are your fricken crazy? Who is he leading? 65% of americans think he is a failure. The world is laughing at his incompetence.

Putin may be a KGB asshole and a tyrant, but he is leading his country and trying to make it stronger.

We may not like him or what he is doing, but the topic is leadership.

Putin substitutes bullying tactics for effective leadership

Republicans think real leaders invade those they differ with. A true leader avoids armed conflict

Was FDR a leader? How about JFK? Truman? All dems who engaged the USA in armed conflict.

All are vastly superior to your hero Putin

Want to know the difference? They gained international consensus and built international alliances before using military force.

Putin is acting on his own, against the rest of the world and is paying a political price as his economy is in shambles

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Putin has demonstrated what type of leader he is......an inept leader
A leader unable to understand Russia's role in a global community and the impact that community has on his nation

Meanwhile, Obama garners the forces of the free world against Russia and is pressuring them to cease their actions

That is what a leader does

Yeah, and as soon as Russian troops roll into Berlin then he'll really get angry!

Germany would kick his ass

Putin is learning a lesson on leadership. You don't get to play by your own rules in an international environment

Hard to believe Conservatives actually call that leadership

Don't be silly. Obama is the only person in the world who can check Putin. Instead, Putin is using him as a doormat. It's like asking why dogs lick their balls.

Unlike a clueless leader such as Putin! who believes might makes right. Obama understands the power of the US/EU alliance

Obama is a global leader.....Putin is a bully

Putin is a man. Obama is a pussy boy. Obama a leader? are your fricken crazy? Who is he leading? 65% of americans think he is a failure. The world is laughing at his incompetence.

Putin may be a KGB asshole and a tyrant, but he is leading his country and trying to make it stronger.

We may not like him or what he is doing, but the topic is leadership.

Putin substitutes bullying tactics for effective leadership

Republicans think real leaders invade those they differ with. A true leader avoids armed conflict

Was FDR a leader? How about JFK? Truman? All dems who engaged the USA in armed conflict.

All are vastly superior to your hero Putin

Want to know the difference? They gained international consensus and built international alliances before using military force.

Putin is acting on his own, against the rest of the world and is paying a political price as his economy is in shambles

And, his people are going hungry - just as RWs would like to see here in the US.

 

[Redfish]

Putin has demonstrated what type of leader he is......an inept leader
A leader unable to understand Russia's role in a global community and the impact that community has on his nation

Meanwhile, Obama garners the forces of the free world against Russia and is pressuring them to cease their actions

That is what a leader does

Yeah, and as soon as Russian troops roll into Berlin then he'll really get angry!

Germany would kick his ass

Putin is learning a lesson on leadership. You don't get to play by your own rules in an international environment

Hard to believe Conservatives actually call that leadership

Don't be silly. Obama is the only person in the world who can check Putin. Instead, Putin is using him as a doormat. It's like asking why dogs lick their balls.

Unlike a clueless leader such as Putin! who believes might makes right. Obama understands the power of the US/EU alliance

Obama is a global leader.....Putin is a bully

Putin is a man. Obama is a pussy boy. Obama a leader? are your fricken crazy? Who is he leading? 65% of americans think he is a failure. The world is laughing at his incompetence.

Putin may be a KGB asshole and a tyrant, but he is leading his country and trying to make it stronger.

We may not like him or what he is doing, but the topic is leadership.

Putin substitutes bullying tactics for effective leadership

Republicans think real leaders invade those they differ with. A true leader avoids armed conflict

Was FDR a leader? How about JFK? Truman? All dems who engaged the USA in armed conflict.

All are vastly superior to your hero Putin

Want to know the difference? They gained international consensus and built international alliances before using military force.

Putin is acting on his own, against the rest of the world and is paying a political price as his economy is in shambles

The topic is leadership, try to stay on topic. First you said that good leaders do not engage in armed conflict, I gave you 3 examples of good dem leaders who engaged in armed conflict. Then you lied about them having world consensus before going to arms. FDR did not seek consensus after pearl harbor, Truman did not seek consensus before Hiroshima, JFK did not have world consensus on the stupid viet nam "war". They were leaders who did what they thought best for the country at the time. History has proven FDR and Truman right and Kennedy wrong.

Putin is a leader of his country---good or bad.

and for the record, the Russian economy is doing quite well.

 

[Redfish]

Putin has demonstrated what type of leader he is......an inept leader
A leader unable to understand Russia's role in a global community and the impact that community has on his nation

Meanwhile, Obama garners the forces of the free world against Russia and is pressuring them to cease their actions

That is what a leader does

Yeah, and as soon as Russian troops roll into Berlin then he'll really get angry!

Germany would kick his ass

Putin is learning a lesson on leadership. You don't get to play by your own rules in an international environment

Hard to believe Conservatives actually call that leadership

Don't be silly. Obama is the only person in the world who can check Putin. Instead, Putin is using him as a doormat. It's like asking why dogs lick their balls.

Unlike a clueless leader such as Putin! who believes might makes right. Obama understands the power of the US/EU alliance

Obama is a global leader.....Putin is a bully

Putin is a man. Obama is a pussy boy. Obama a leader? are your fricken crazy? Who is he leading? 65% of americans think he is a failure. The world is laughing at his incompetence.

Putin may be a KGB asshole and a tyrant, but he is leading his country and trying to make it stronger.

We may not like him or what he is doing, but the topic is leadership.

Putin substitutes bullying tactics for effective leadership

Republicans think real leaders invade those they differ with. A true leader avoids armed conflict

Was FDR a leader? How about JFK? Truman? All dems who engaged the USA in armed conflict.

All are vastly superior to your hero Putin

Want to know the difference? They gained international consensus and built international alliances before using military force.

Putin is acting on his own, against the rest of the world and is paying a political price as his economy is in shambles

And, his people are going hungry - just as RWs would like to see here in the US.

I just returned from a visit to russia, the people are not going hungry------------why must you libs lie about everything?

 

[rightwinger]

The result of Putin's "Leadership"

Cameron we will permanently damage Russia s economy - Telegraph

David Cameron has vowed to “turn the ratchet” on Vladimir Putin, as he warned Western sanctions would “permanently” damage the Russian economy.
Moscow banks are running short of funding as investors pull capital out the country, while the rouble and the Russian stock market are falling, the Prime Minister said.

The rouble today reached a record low, having lost 12 per cent of its value against the dollar in a year.