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Property is Liberty, and Regulation Is Theft

PoliticalChic

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1. Here, once again, that apocryphal tale of boiling the frog: put it in cold water, and raise the temperature so slowly that it fails to recognize the threat: boiled frog.

That's what 'regulation' is....the threat is the destruction of the right to private property.



2. Why is 'private property's so important?
Before the Founders settled on 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,' ....

"Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" is a well-known phrase in theUnited States Declaration of Independence.[1]The phrase gives three examples of the "unalienable rights" which the Declaration says has been given to all human beings by their Creator, and for which governments are created to protect. ....In 1689, Locke argued in hisTwo Treatises of Government that political society existed for the sake of protecting "property", which he defined as a person's "life, liberty, and estate"
Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



3. While our founding documents memorialize our rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, the Virginia Declaration preceded it by several months. In same, George Mason had written “…the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety.…” Virginia Declaration of Rights, 1776

  1. The emphasis on property came from philosopher John Locke, who believed that all men had the natural rights to acquire, protect, and dispose of property.
  2. Jefferson preferred the shift from material property and toward the pursuit of happiness: by such, morality became uppermost.
4. Private property is the physical dimension of capitalism, the free market.

"A fundamental principle of our society is property rights. In nations were property rights have not been formally established, the costs of legally validating ownership of a home, a farm, or a business may be prohibitively expensive relative to the average income level, a crippling handicap for those seeking to rise from poverty to prosperity. Without property rights, one with entrepreneurial talents loses the access to other people’s money: homes or other assets not recognized by a legal system cannot be used as collateral."
Sowell, “Economic Facts & Fallacies,” chapter seven.


a. Even OWS, who oppose private property can learn: “Who’d have thought that a crowd of people demanding the seizure of wealth from banks, corporations, and the wealthy might also have a few thieves? I’m shocked,shocked to find theft occurring in a group that has hijacked private property it refuses to leave. I can’t imagine that a crowd that demands free higher education and the forgiveness of tens of thousands in student debt would also think of someone’s Mac or an iPhone as equally as communal as a college education…. Law and order! Get tough on crime! Defend private property!” Celebrated redistributionists discover healthy respect for private property - Hot Air



5. Even Liberal political philosopher John Rawls agreed, as he offered the idea that the two basic principles necessary for a just society:

a. Political liberty (i.e., to vote and run for office), freedom of speech and assembly, liberty of conscience, freedom of personal property; and freedom from arbitrary arrest.

b. Social and economic inequalities are to be arranged so that (Rawls, “A Theory of Justice,” 1971, p.303): they are to be of the greatest benefit to the least-advantaged members of society (the difference principle). A Theory of Justice - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




So....we've established the essential nature of private property in a free society. Compare same to a feudal or communist one.

Which would you choose?
 
Everything is 'theft' to the RWnuts. It's hilarious.
We wouldn't think it was "theft" if we kept our own shit that we worked for...

Of course, all of the lazy, shiftless Democrats that we have to support would scream bloody murder if that happened, wouldn't they???

Explain how a government would operate if all taxes were voluntary and the government was prohibited from passing regulatory legislation.
 
Everything is 'theft' to the RWnuts. It's hilarious.

When the government can take the land you own or the house you live in at any time what do you call it?

I call it democracy. The People, right or wrong, gave the government that power.

We'll see of you feel that way when the government tells you it's taking your home and paying you pennies on the dollar for it leaving you with a huge mortgage balance to pay off
 
Cut and paste is theft.

I provided five succinct, documented and linked, items that support the title.
You can't find a single thing to deny, or disagree with?


When your sort object to a post, one can expect you to put forth your best argument against same.
When you screech 'cut and post,' it is an admission that you have no 'best argument'...



Why are you Leftists so fearful of this particular style of presenting factual material?

Is it because you can't do it?
Or because the documentation makes the post undeniable?



Will there ever be a time when Liberals can construct a counter post containing more than hot air?

Ever?
 
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Everything is 'theft' to the RWnuts. It's hilarious.

When the government can take the land you own or the house you live in at any time what do you call it?

I call it democracy. The People, right or wrong, gave the government that power.

We'll see of you feel that way when the government tells you it's taking your home and paying you pennies on the dollar for it leaving you with a huge mortgage balance to pay off


He can always get another refrigerator box.
 
Ta
Everything is 'theft' to the RWnuts. It's hilarious.
We wouldn't think it was "theft" if we kept our own shit that we worked for...

Of course, all of the lazy, shiftless Democrats that we have to support would scream bloody murder if that happened, wouldn't they???

Explain how a government would operate if all taxes were voluntary and the government was prohibited from passing regulatory legislation.
Taxes to defend our nation and pay for necessary infrastructure ARE necessary...

However, taxes to support a bunch of worthless bums (AKA Democrats), really wouldn't be, if those bums would just get off their lazy asses and GET A JOB...

After all, Obungles created TONS of jobs they can have, didn't he???

Or are all of you Democrats LYING about that, too???
 
Cut and paste is theft.

I provided five succinct, documented and linked, items that support the title.
You can't find a single thing to deny, or disagree with?


When you sort object to a post, one can expect you to put forth your best argument against same.
When you screech 'cut and post,' it is an admission that you have no 'best argument'...



Why are you Leftists so fearful of this particular style of presenting factual material?

Is it because you can't do it?
Or because the documentation makes the post undeniable?



Will there ever be a time when Liberals can construct a counter post containing more than hot air?

Ever?

It's a joke poli.


What are we talking about specifically?
 
Ta
Everything is 'theft' to the RWnuts. It's hilarious.
We wouldn't think it was "theft" if we kept our own shit that we worked for...

Of course, all of the lazy, shiftless Democrats that we have to support would scream bloody murder if that happened, wouldn't they???

Explain how a government would operate if all taxes were voluntary and the government was prohibited from passing regulatory legislation.
Taxes to defend our nation and pay for necessary infrastructure ARE necessary...

However, taxes to support a bunch of worthless bums (AKA Democrats), really wouldn't be, if those bums would just get off their lazy asses and GET A JOB...

After all, Obungles created TONS of jobs they can have, didn't he???

Or are all of you Democrats LYING about that, too???

So taxes should be voluntary, since you only want to pay the ones you like?

Would you like to abandon democratic government so a rightwing oligarchy could run the country?
 
Ta
Everything is 'theft' to the RWnuts. It's hilarious.
We wouldn't think it was "theft" if we kept our own shit that we worked for...

Of course, all of the lazy, shiftless Democrats that we have to support would scream bloody murder if that happened, wouldn't they???

Explain how a government would operate if all taxes were voluntary and the government was prohibited from passing regulatory legislation.
Taxes to defend our nation and pay for necessary infrastructure ARE necessary...

However, taxes to support a bunch of worthless bums (AKA Democrats), really wouldn't be, if those bums would just get off their lazy asses and GET A JOB...

After all, Obungles created TONS of jobs they can have, didn't he???

Or are all of you Democrats LYING about that, too???

So taxes should be voluntary, since you only want to pay the ones you like?

Would you like to abandon democratic government so a rightwing oligarchy could run the country?
So in other words, you are dead set on "proving" the assertion that Democrats should be able to take working peoples' property, against their will, and give it to a bunch of bums where they can afford to lay around and do nothing all day, right???

The loser Democrats need to get a job....

Or if they won't work, get used to being broke...
 
Cut and paste is theft.

I provided five succinct, documented and linked, items that support the title.
You can't find a single thing to deny, or disagree with?


When your sort object to a post, one can expect you to put forth your best argument against same.
When you screech 'cut and post,' it is an admission that you have no 'best argument'...



Why are you Leftists so fearful of this particular style of presenting factual material?

Is it because you can't do it?
Or because the documentation makes the post undeniable?



Will there ever be a time when Liberals can construct a counter post containing more than hot air?

Ever?
You are quoting people who considered and wrote about property ownership to being a factor equal to life and liberty. The founders knew the concept and rejected it, as you explained. Your evidence that property rights deserve to be viewed as equal to life and liberty in our constitution was rejected by the founders.
 
Cut and paste is theft.

I provided five succinct, documented and linked, items that support the title.
You can't find a single thing to deny, or disagree with?


When you sort object to a post, one can expect you to put forth your best argument against same.
When you screech 'cut and post,' it is an admission that you have no 'best argument'...



Why are you Leftists so fearful of this particular style of presenting factual material?

Is it because you can't do it?
Or because the documentation makes the post undeniable?



Will there ever be a time when Liberals can construct a counter post containing more than hot air?

Ever?

It's a joke poli.


What are we talking about specifically?



If the OP is too detailed for you, take a shot at the title.
 

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