Protecting America????

[Pogo]

How many terrorist attacks have Christians carried out? They say things the left disagrees with and they protest abortion clinics. That is all child's play compared to the acts committed by Muslims over the years. Muslims have been consistent with killing infidels. The "peaceful" ones remain silent. We keep getting told that only a handful are radical and the others can be trusted. I guess it's a big handful that are radical judging from the pics after 9/11 showing crowds cheering in different countries. I wonder how many of those t-shirts have been sold that celebrate the attack on us.

Until a large group of Muslims comes out and denounces terrorism, I will consider them to be in league with the killers. If they choose not to separate themselves or help us in locating the radicals among them, it is safe to assume they hold the same mindset.

Here ya go, compiled on a single page for easy reading.

And here ya go again -- All Terrorists Are Muslim-- Except for the 94% that Aren't

>> Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant: “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” Muslims and their “leftist dhimmi allies” respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that “nearly all terrorists are Muslims.”

But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom).

... According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.

Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their &#8220;leftist dhimmi allies&#8221; cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the &#8220;Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times&#8221; narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and &#8220;proves&#8221; the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist! <<

Never ceases to amaze me when the same voices that (correctly) rail at the biases of mainstream media.... then turn around and follow it like a puppy when it suits a preconceived agenda.

Hope this helps.

It probably won't.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Believe it or not, military members have access to things called the "Internet" and "television". And they know just as much about radical Islam as you and me.

It is less a question of military members knowing the facts than of them being sotto voce instructed on what path to take....or not to take.

"FBI did not investigate Fort Hood shooter because of political correctness, report says"
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/1...e-political-correctness-report/#ixzz2XLLYjBOk

 

[konradv]

What???

You're revealing that Obama is unable to be consistent???

Next thing you'll deny is that he is the messiah!

Turn in your Leftist credentials.

why do you Conservatives believe that Obama is the Messiah?

Here ya' go, Hyrcamajerk.....

...see how many are conservatives:



a. Susan Sarandon: ”He is a community organizer like Jesus was, and now we’re a community and he can organize us.” The Hill, January 21, 2009

b. David Cordero, 24, made the sculpture for his senior show after noticing all the attention Obama has received: "All of this is a response to what I've been witnessing and hearing, this idea that Barack is sort of a potential savior that might come and absolve the country of all its sins," Cordero said. Sculpture of Obama as Jesus causes stir - politics - Decision '08 - Barack Obama News - msnbc.com

c. "We have an amazing story to tell," she said. "This president has brought us out of the dark and into the light."
Source: Michelle Obama, Campaign rally. April 17, 2012.

d. In its November 22, 2010 issue, Obama has been shown by Newsweek on its cover page with multiple arms balancing several policy issues while raising his left leg mimicking the cosmic dance of the Hindu deity; considered a manifestation of Lord Shiva.
... Newsweek has named Obama "god of all things" on its cover.
SOURCE: Times of India (November 20, 2010).

e. Rabbi David Saperstein, reading from Psalms in English and Hebrew, noticed from the altar that the good men and women of the congregation that day, including the Bidens and other dignitaries, had not yet stood. Finally Bishop Vashti McKenzie of the African Methodist Church asked that everyone rise. At that moment Saperstein saw something from his angle of vision: "If I had seen it in a movie I would have groaned and said, 'Give me a break. That's so trite.'" A beam of morning light shown [sic] through the stained-glass windows and illuminated the president-elect's face. Several of the clergy and choir on the altar who also saw it marveled afterward about the presence of the Divine.
The Promise: President Obama, Year One, by Jonathan Alter.
(Simon & Schuster, May 2010 - p. 102)

f. He is provocative in insisting on an outstretched hand, where others only see animosity.
His tangible results in the short time that he has been active – are few and far between. His greatest results have been created with words and speeches – words that remain in the consciousness of their audience and have long-term effects.

He comes from humble beginnings and defends the weak and vulnerable, because he can identify himself with their conditions.

And no we are not thinking of Jesus Christ, whose birthday has just been celebrated - - but rather the President of the United States Barack Hussein Obama. [...]
Today, his historic Health Reform is being passed through the American Senate – a welfare policy breakthrough that several of his predecessors have been unable to manage. [...]

On the other hand, we have Jesus’ miracles that everyone still remembers, but which only benefitted a few.

Obama is, of course, greater than Jesus –
Source: "Obama greater than Jesus" Politiken Editorial [Denmark] December 29, 2009.

g. The White House released a photo of Obama with a halo around his head:
Photostream: Business and Pleasure in August | The White House

h. "Obama is standing above the country, above the world. He's sort of GOD."

"In a way Obama is standing above the country, above the world. He's sort of GOD. He's going to bring all different sides together."

- Newsweek editor Evan Thomas

i. EAST POINT, Ga.—The day after Barack Obama was elected president, Larry Younginer knelt in front of the congregants at his suburban Atlanta church and offered a prayer of thanks.
"Lord, we have again come to you in prayer, and you have heard our cries from heaven, and you have sent us again from the state called Illinois, a man called Barack to heal our land," said Younginer, a 62-year-old retired information systems worker at Coca Cola in Atlanta. "We pray that you will build a hedge around him that will protect him from those who would do him harm."
"No one saw him coming, and Christians believe God comes at us from strange angles and places we don't expect, like Jesus being born in a manger."

Some see God's will in Obama win, by Dahleen Glanton. Chicago Tribune November 29, 2008.
Is Barack Obama the Messiah?
__________________
Spike Lee said President Barack Obama is "not perfect," but that expectations for his first term"were way too high."
“He was a savior, black Jesus,” the actor-director told CNN's Don Lemon in an interview airing inits entirety Saturday. “Look, I don't care who it was. Expectations were way too high.”
Spike Lee: Barack Obama is 'not perfect' - POLITICO.com

Community Organizers pray to Obama:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_3884G2s6A]SHOCK DISCOVERY! - Gamaliel Foundation Community Organizers pray to President-Elect Barack Obama - YouTube[/ame]

I.E. a few people made allusions a few years back and now the CONS run with it over and over again, but just let one liberal bring up "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" and...

 

[PoliticalChic]

Here ya' go, Hyrcamajerk.....

didn't you start a thread about personal attacks from the Left?

No....about character assassination.
"Character assassination is a deliberate and sustained process that aims to destroy the credibility and reputation of a person, institution, social group, or nation."

You have neither credibility nor reputation....You gave those away via your use of vulgarity.

So it is simply a question of correctly identifying you.

As I have done.

You may continue to so identify yourself....I give you permission.

Get it, Hyrcamajerk?

 

[Pogo]

Here ya' go, Hyrcamajerk.....

didn't you start a thread about personal attacks from the Left?

No....about character assassination.
"Character assassination is a deliberate and sustained process that aims to destroy the credibility and reputation of a person, institution, social group, or nation."

You have neither credibility nor reputation....You gave those away via your use of vulgarity.

So it is simply a question of correctly identifying you.

As I have done.

You may continue to so identify yourself....I give you permission.

Get it, Hyrcamajerk?

Got that? "When you do it it's character assassination, when I do it it's 'correctly identifying'".

Can't buy entertainment like this.

 

[PoliticalChic]

why do you Conservatives believe that Obama is the Messiah?

Here ya' go, Hyrcamajerk.....

...see how many are conservatives:



a. Susan Sarandon: ”He is a community organizer like Jesus was, and now we’re a community and he can organize us.” The Hill, January 21, 2009

b. David Cordero, 24, made the sculpture for his senior show after noticing all the attention Obama has received: "All of this is a response to what I've been witnessing and hearing, this idea that Barack is sort of a potential savior that might come and absolve the country of all its sins," Cordero said. Sculpture of Obama as Jesus causes stir - politics - Decision '08 - Barack Obama News - msnbc.com

c. "We have an amazing story to tell," she said. "This president has brought us out of the dark and into the light."
Source: Michelle Obama, Campaign rally. April 17, 2012.

d. In its November 22, 2010 issue, Obama has been shown by Newsweek on its cover page with multiple arms balancing several policy issues while raising his left leg mimicking the cosmic dance of the Hindu deity; considered a manifestation of Lord Shiva.
... Newsweek has named Obama "god of all things" on its cover.
SOURCE: Times of India (November 20, 2010).

e. Rabbi David Saperstein, reading from Psalms in English and Hebrew, noticed from the altar that the good men and women of the congregation that day, including the Bidens and other dignitaries, had not yet stood. Finally Bishop Vashti McKenzie of the African Methodist Church asked that everyone rise. At that moment Saperstein saw something from his angle of vision: "If I had seen it in a movie I would have groaned and said, 'Give me a break. That's so trite.'" A beam of morning light shown [sic] through the stained-glass windows and illuminated the president-elect's face. Several of the clergy and choir on the altar who also saw it marveled afterward about the presence of the Divine.
The Promise: President Obama, Year One, by Jonathan Alter.
(Simon & Schuster, May 2010 - p. 102)

f. He is provocative in insisting on an outstretched hand, where others only see animosity.
His tangible results in the short time that he has been active – are few and far between. His greatest results have been created with words and speeches – words that remain in the consciousness of their audience and have long-term effects.

He comes from humble beginnings and defends the weak and vulnerable, because he can identify himself with their conditions.

And no we are not thinking of Jesus Christ, whose birthday has just been celebrated - - but rather the President of the United States Barack Hussein Obama. [...]
Today, his historic Health Reform is being passed through the American Senate – a welfare policy breakthrough that several of his predecessors have been unable to manage. [...]

On the other hand, we have Jesus’ miracles that everyone still remembers, but which only benefitted a few.

Obama is, of course, greater than Jesus –
Source: "Obama greater than Jesus" Politiken Editorial [Denmark] December 29, 2009.

g. The White House released a photo of Obama with a halo around his head:
Photostream: Business and Pleasure in August | The White House

h. "Obama is standing above the country, above the world. He's sort of GOD."

"In a way Obama is standing above the country, above the world. He's sort of GOD. He's going to bring all different sides together."

- Newsweek editor Evan Thomas

i. EAST POINT, Ga.—The day after Barack Obama was elected president, Larry Younginer knelt in front of the congregants at his suburban Atlanta church and offered a prayer of thanks.
"Lord, we have again come to you in prayer, and you have heard our cries from heaven, and you have sent us again from the state called Illinois, a man called Barack to heal our land," said Younginer, a 62-year-old retired information systems worker at Coca Cola in Atlanta. "We pray that you will build a hedge around him that will protect him from those who would do him harm."
"No one saw him coming, and Christians believe God comes at us from strange angles and places we don't expect, like Jesus being born in a manger."

Some see God's will in Obama win, by Dahleen Glanton. Chicago Tribune November 29, 2008.
Is Barack Obama the Messiah?
__________________
Spike Lee said President Barack Obama is "not perfect," but that expectations for his first term"were way too high."
“He was a savior, black Jesus,” the actor-director told CNN's Don Lemon in an interview airing inits entirety Saturday. “Look, I don't care who it was. Expectations were way too high.”
Spike Lee: Barack Obama is 'not perfect' - POLITICO.com

Community Organizers pray to Obama:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_3884G2s6A]SHOCK DISCOVERY! - Gamaliel Foundation Community Organizers pray to President-Elect Barack Obama - YouTube[/ame]

I.E. a few people made allusions a few years back and now the CONS run with it over and over again, but just let one liberal bring up "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" and...

1. It was hardly 'a few people.'

2. If you are begging permission to expunge your past....permission is not granted.

a. The same applies to Progressive history re: eugenics.

3. As an honorable individual, I'm certain that you are just about to admit my correctly revealing Dr. John Holdren's notorious history, i.e., poisoning the water supply, forced abortions, etc......
....and providing your explanation of his selection as science czar by Barack Obama.


Ready when you are.

 

[konradv]

Here ya' go, Hyrcamajerk.....

didn't you start a thread about personal attacks from the Left?

No....about character assassination.
"Character assassination is a deliberate and sustained process that aims to destroy the credibility and reputation of a person, institution, social group, or nation."

You have neither credibility nor reputation....You gave those away via your use of vulgarity.

So it is simply a question of correctly identifying you.

As I have done.

You may continue to so identify yourself....I give you permission.

Get it, Hyrcamajerk?

Doesn't really address the comment, IMO. It's merely a deflection to divert attention from your hypocrisy.

 

[Pogo]

why do you Conservatives believe that Obama is the Messiah?

Here ya' go, Hyrcamajerk..... <snip>

I.E. a few people made allusions a few years back and now the CONS run with it over and over again, but just let one liberal bring up "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" and...

As noted before, Three Men Make a Tiger. Except when it's the other guy's men -- then it's a paper tiger.

 

[Pogo]

I.E. a few people made allusions a few years back and now the CONS run with it over and over again, but just let one liberal bring up "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" and...

1. It was hardly 'a few people.'

2 If you are begging permission to expunge your past....permission is not granted.
.

Uh --- his past? Konrad is named in that list? Where? I missed it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I.E. a few people made allusions a few years back and now the CONS run with it over and over again, but just let one liberal bring up "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" and...

1. It was hardly 'a few people.'

2 If you are begging permission to expunge your past....permission is not granted.
.

Uh --- his past? Konrad is named in that list? Where? I missed it.

Did I miss the pictures where you carried konny across the threshold?


Konny is of the Leftist persuasion. "Your past" refers to that of Progressives/Liberals/Democrats/socialists....whatever name au courant.

 

[PoliticalChic]

didn't you start a thread about personal attacks from the Left?

No....about character assassination.
"Character assassination is a deliberate and sustained process that aims to destroy the credibility and reputation of a person, institution, social group, or nation."

You have neither credibility nor reputation....You gave those away via your use of vulgarity.

So it is simply a question of correctly identifying you.

As I have done.

You may continue to so identify yourself....I give you permission.

Get it, Hyrcamajerk?

Doesn't really address the comment, IMO. It's merely a deflection to divert attention from your hypocrisy.

"Doesn't really address the comment, IMO..."

Oh no!

A disagreement between us???

 

[Pogo]

1. It was hardly 'a few people.'

2 If you are begging permission to expunge your past....permission is not granted.
.

Uh --- his past? Konrad is named in that list? Where? I missed it.

Did I miss the pictures where you carried konny across the threshold?


Konny is of the Leftist persuasion. "Your past" refers to that of Progressives/Liberals/Democrats/socialists....whatever name au courant.

So...... you believe we're all ants then? A million members with one mind, like some kind of The Borg?

Do you believe that because you're a lockstep-fixated robot yourself and can't imagine the concept of "individual"?

Or do you have to go to the collective to find that out?

I'll wait.

 

[NYcarbineer]

1.5. But...the Bush administration then disallowed even the mention of "jihad," or "Islam," in connection with the war on terror:
"The following set of suggestions regarding appropriate language for use in conversations with target audiences was developed by the Extremist Messaging Branch of the National
Counterterrorism Center...."
http://www.investigativeproject.org/documents/misc/127.pdf

a. Obama continued this....on steroids!

So Bush forbid the mention of 'jihad' and Obama continued that??

lol, then I guess you'll deny that President Obama said this last month:

"Deranged or alienated individuals – often U.S. citizens or legal residents – can do enormous damage, particularly when inspired by larger notions of violent jihad. That pull towards extremism appears to have led to the shooting at Fort Hood, and the bombing of the Boston Marathon."

What???

You're revealing that Obama is unable to be consistent???


Next thing you'll deny is that he is the messiah!

Turn in your Leftist credentials.

I was just proving that you were knowingly or unknowingly quoting a liar.

 

[NYcarbineer]

didn't you start a thread about personal attacks from the Left?

No....about character assassination.
"Character assassination is a deliberate and sustained process that aims to destroy the credibility and reputation of a person, institution, social group, or nation."

You have neither credibility nor reputation....You gave those away via your use of vulgarity.

So it is simply a question of correctly identifying you.

As I have done.

You may continue to so identify yourself....I give you permission.

Get it, Hyrcamajerk?

Doesn't really address the comment, IMO. It's merely a deflection to divert attention from your hypocrisy.

If you beat her up badly enough, on the topic, she'll run off and start a call-out thread about you that'll end up in the badlands.

 

[PoliticalChic]

How many terrorist attacks have Christians carried out? They say things the left disagrees with and they protest abortion clinics. That is all child's play compared to the acts committed by Muslims over the years. Muslims have been consistent with killing infidels. The "peaceful" ones remain silent. We keep getting told that only a handful are radical and the others can be trusted. I guess it's a big handful that are radical judging from the pics after 9/11 showing crowds cheering in different countries. I wonder how many of those t-shirts have been sold that celebrate the attack on us.

Until a large group of Muslims comes out and denounces terrorism, I will consider them to be in league with the killers. If they choose not to separate themselves or help us in locating the radicals among them, it is safe to assume they hold the same mindset.

Here ya go, compiled on a single page for easy reading.

And here ya go again -- All Terrorists Are Muslim-- Except for the 94% that Aren't

>> Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant: &#8220;Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.&#8221; Muslims and their &#8220;leftist dhimmi allies&#8221; respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that &#8220;nearly all terrorists are Muslims.&#8221;

But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI&#8217;s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom).

... According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.

Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their &#8220;leftist dhimmi allies&#8221; cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the &#8220;Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times&#8221; narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and &#8220;proves&#8221; the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist! <<

Never ceases to amaze me when the same voices that (correctly) rail at the biases of mainstream media.... then turn around and follow it like a puppy when it suits a preconceived agenda.

Hope this helps.

It probably won't.

It doesn't. The following will indicate that it is you who have your head in the sand.

This misleading post of yours forces me to provide information that I would rather have left for some other thread.

This thread is meant to question the basis for American policy....



1. But when you imply that a tiny portion of Muslims....6%?....may prove to be a problem for the West....well,...

....now I have to instruct you as a teacher to a student who has no depth in understanding.


Here: do you believe that only 6% of Muslims are devout?

2. Let's say, arguendo, that the percentage is far higher.
The devout follow the instructions of the Koran.....in which there are many....124...verses of tolerance.


3. But those are rendered meaningless by the rule of "abrogation. This rule is the hermeneutic key that Islamic scholars use to resolve contradictions found in the Koran.

Koranic passages are abrogated, cancelled, by any subsequently revealed passages that convey a different meaning. In other words, when there is a contradiction, e.g., 'don't kill infidels', vs. 'kill infidels,' whichever was 'revealed' to the prophet Mohammed more recently is the one that takes priority.

4. This comes directly from Mohammad himself, in sura 2:106 " Whatever a Verse (revelation) do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allâh is able to do all things?" Surah Al-Baqarah: Translation and Commentary on The Holy Qur-an: by Dr. Zohurul Hoque


5. In "What the Koran Really Says," Ibn Warraq explains concisely that the passages preaching tolerance are found in Meccan (early) suras, and the passages recommending killing, maiming, decapitating, the so-called Sword Verses, are Medinan (later). Thus, 'Tolerance' has been abrogated by intolerance.

Do you understand? The terrorists are the devout.


Can we go back to the OP? The question at the core is why our administrations belie the above facts.

And....is this the way to protect America and Americans?

 

[PoliticalChic]

No....about character assassination.
"Character assassination is a deliberate and sustained process that aims to destroy the credibility and reputation of a person, institution, social group, or nation."

You have neither credibility nor reputation....You gave those away via your use of vulgarity.

So it is simply a question of correctly identifying you.

As I have done.

You may continue to so identify yourself....I give you permission.

Get it, Hyrcamajerk?

Doesn't really address the comment, IMO. It's merely a deflection to divert attention from your hypocrisy.

If you beat her up badly enough, on the topic, she'll run off and start a call-out thread about you that'll end up in the badlands.

"If you beat her up badly enough, on the topic, she'll run off..."

Conjecture on the part of the defeated, an attempt to lick your wounds?


After all, what you suggest has never occurred.

 

[Pogo]

How many terrorist attacks have Christians carried out? They say things the left disagrees with and they protest abortion clinics. That is all child's play compared to the acts committed by Muslims over the years. Muslims have been consistent with killing infidels. The "peaceful" ones remain silent. We keep getting told that only a handful are radical and the others can be trusted. I guess it's a big handful that are radical judging from the pics after 9/11 showing crowds cheering in different countries. I wonder how many of those t-shirts have been sold that celebrate the attack on us.

Until a large group of Muslims comes out and denounces terrorism, I will consider them to be in league with the killers. If they choose not to separate themselves or help us in locating the radicals among them, it is safe to assume they hold the same mindset.

Here ya go, compiled on a single page for easy reading.

And here ya go again -- All Terrorists Are Muslim-- Except for the 94% that Aren't

>> Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant: &#8220;Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.&#8221; Muslims and their &#8220;leftist dhimmi allies&#8221; respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that &#8220;nearly all terrorists are Muslims.&#8221;

But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI&#8217;s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom).

... According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.

Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their &#8220;leftist dhimmi allies&#8221; cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the &#8220;Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times&#8221; narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and &#8220;proves&#8221; the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist! <<

Never ceases to amaze me when the same voices that (correctly) rail at the biases of mainstream media.... then turn around and follow it like a puppy when it suits a preconceived agenda.

Hope this helps.

It probably won't.

It doesn't. The following will indicate that it is you who have your head in the sand.

This misleading post of yours forces me to provide information that I would rather have left for some other thread.

This thread is meant to question the basis for American policy....

1. But when you imply that a tiny portion of Muslims....6%?....may prove to be a problem for the West....well,...

....now I have to instruct you as a teacher to a student who has no depth in understanding.

Here: do you believe that only 6% of Muslims are devout?

2. Let's say, arguendo, that the percentage is far higher.
The devout follow the instructions of the Koran.....in which there are many....124...verses of tolerance.

3. But those are rendered meaningless by the rule of "abrogation. This rule is the hermeneutic key that Islamic scholars use to resolve contradictions found in the Koran.

Koranic passages are abrogated, cancelled, by any subsequently revealed passages that convey a different meaning. In other words, when their is a contradiction, e.g., 'don't kill infidels', vs. 'kill infidels,' whichever was 'revealed' to the prophet Mohammed more recently is the one that takes priority.

4. This comes directly from Mohammad himself, in sura 2:106 " Whatever a Verse (revelation) do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allâh is able to do all things?" Surah Al-Baqarah: Translation and Commentary on The Holy Qur-an: by Dr. Zohurul Hoque

5. In "What the Koran Really Says," Ibn Warraq explains concisely that the passages preaching tolerance are found in Meccan (early) suras, and the passages recommending killing, maiming, decapitating, the so-called Sword Verses, are Medinan (later). Thus, 'Tolerance' has been abrogated by intolerance.

Do you understand? The terrorists are the devout.

Can we go back to the OP? The question at the core is why our administrations belie the above facts.

And....is this the way to protect America and Americans?

Wow.
Do you not know how to read this board yet? That was in answer to Clementine's post. That's why it says "Clementine" in the box. That's why it directly addresses it.
Where do you get the idea it's all about numero uno?

"Devout"?? Who the fuck brought up "devout"? How would you even measure that?

Weird post. Maybe you want to delete and start over.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Here ya go, compiled on a single page for easy reading.

And here ya go again -- All Terrorists Are Muslim-- Except for the 94% that Aren't

>> Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant: “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” Muslims and their “leftist dhimmi allies” respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that “nearly all terrorists are Muslims.”

But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom).

... According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.

Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their “leftist dhimmi allies” cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the “Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times” narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and “proves” the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist! <<

Never ceases to amaze me when the same voices that (correctly) rail at the biases of mainstream media.... then turn around and follow it like a puppy when it suits a preconceived agenda.

Hope this helps.

It probably won't.

It doesn't. The following will indicate that it is you who have your head in the sand.

This misleading post of yours forces me to provide information that I would rather have left for some other thread.

This thread is meant to question the basis for American policy....

1. But when you imply that a tiny portion of Muslims....6%?....may prove to be a problem for the West....well,...

....now I have to instruct you as a teacher to a student who has no depth in understanding.

Here: do you believe that only 6% of Muslims are devout?

2. Let's say, arguendo, that the percentage is far higher.
The devout follow the instructions of the Koran.....in which there are many....124...verses of tolerance.

3. But those are rendered meaningless by the rule of "abrogation. This rule is the hermeneutic key that Islamic scholars use to resolve contradictions found in the Koran.

Koranic passages are abrogated, cancelled, by any subsequently revealed passages that convey a different meaning. In other words, when their is a contradiction, e.g., 'don't kill infidels', vs. 'kill infidels,' whichever was 'revealed' to the prophet Mohammed more recently is the one that takes priority.

4. This comes directly from Mohammad himself, in sura 2:106 " Whatever a Verse (revelation) do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allâh is able to do all things?" Surah Al-Baqarah: Translation and Commentary on The Holy Qur-an: by Dr. Zohurul Hoque

5. In "What the Koran Really Says," Ibn Warraq explains concisely that the passages preaching tolerance are found in Meccan (early) suras, and the passages recommending killing, maiming, decapitating, the so-called Sword Verses, are Medinan (later). Thus, 'Tolerance' has been abrogated by intolerance.

Do you understand? The terrorists are the devout.

Can we go back to the OP? The question at the core is why our administrations belie the above facts.

And....is this the way to protect America and Americans?

Wow.
Do you not know how to read this board yet? That was in answer to Clementine's post. That's why it says "Clementine" in the box. That's why it directly addresses it.
Where do you get the idea it's all about numero uno?

"Devout"?? Who the fuck brought up "devout"? How would you even measure that?

Weird post. Maybe you want to delete and start over.

You.


Who wrote this:
"Here ya go, compiled on a single page for easy reading.

And here ya go again -- All Terrorists Are Muslim-- Except for the 94% that Aren't"


You.


Now you have been instructed, and corrected.

What you do with that knowledge is up to you.

 

[Pogo]

It doesn't. The following will indicate that it is you who have your head in the sand.

This misleading post of yours forces me to provide information that I would rather have left for some other thread.

This thread is meant to question the basis for American policy....

1. But when you imply that a tiny portion of Muslims....6%?....may prove to be a problem for the West....well,...

....now I have to instruct you as a teacher to a student who has no depth in understanding.

Here: do you believe that only 6% of Muslims are devout?

2. Let's say, arguendo, that the percentage is far higher.
The devout follow the instructions of the Koran.....in which there are many....124...verses of tolerance.

3. But those are rendered meaningless by the rule of "abrogation. This rule is the hermeneutic key that Islamic scholars use to resolve contradictions found in the Koran.

Koranic passages are abrogated, cancelled, by any subsequently revealed passages that convey a different meaning. In other words, when their is a contradiction, e.g., 'don't kill infidels', vs. 'kill infidels,' whichever was 'revealed' to the prophet Mohammed more recently is the one that takes priority.

4. This comes directly from Mohammad himself, in sura 2:106 " Whatever a Verse (revelation) do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allâh is able to do all things?" Surah Al-Baqarah: Translation and Commentary on The Holy Qur-an: by Dr. Zohurul Hoque

5. In "What the Koran Really Says," Ibn Warraq explains concisely that the passages preaching tolerance are found in Meccan (early) suras, and the passages recommending killing, maiming, decapitating, the so-called Sword Verses, are Medinan (later). Thus, 'Tolerance' has been abrogated by intolerance.

Do you understand? The terrorists are the devout.

Can we go back to the OP? The question at the core is why our administrations belie the above facts.

And....is this the way to protect America and Americans?

Wow.
Do you not know how to read this board yet? That was in answer to Clementine's post. That's why it says "Clementine" in the box. That's why it directly addresses it.
Where do you get the idea it's all about numero uno?

"Devout"?? Who the fuck brought up "devout"? How would you even measure that?

Weird post. Maybe you want to delete and start over.

You.

Who wrote this:
"Here ya go, compiled on a single page for easy reading.

And here ya go again -- All Terrorists Are Muslim-- Except for the 94% that Aren't"

You.

Now you have been instructed, and corrected.

What you do with that knowledge is up to you.

I see I have assumed too much -- you really don't know how this board works.

See your name in the box above? That means I'm responding to your post -- this time
See Clementine's name in the previous one? That means it was addressing hers. Not yours- hers.
See where it says "Here ya go, compiled on a single page for easy reading"? That's directly answering her "Until a large group of Muslims comes out and denounces terrorism".

Get it yet?

No, it's not all about "You".

I've been known not to aim high but this is too low-hanging fruit even for me.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Wow.
Do you not know how to read this board yet? That was in answer to Clementine's post. That's why it says "Clementine" in the box. That's why it directly addresses it.
Where do you get the idea it's all about numero uno?

"Devout"?? Who the fuck brought up "devout"? How would you even measure that?

Weird post. Maybe you want to delete and start over.

You.

Who wrote this:
"Here ya go, compiled on a single page for easy reading.

And here ya go again -- All Terrorists Are Muslim-- Except for the 94% that Aren't"

You.

Now you have been instructed, and corrected.

What you do with that knowledge is up to you.

I see I have assumed too much -- you really don't know how this board works.

See your name in the box above? That means I'm responding to your post -- this time
See Clementine's name in the previous one? That means it was addressing hers. Not yours- hers.
See where it says "Here ya go, compiled on a single page for easy reading"? That's directly answering her "Until a large group of Muslims comes out and denounces terrorism".

Get it yet?

No, it's not all about "You".

I've been known not to aim high but this is too low-hanging fruit even for me.

Did you post this:

"All Terrorists Are Muslim-- Except for the 94% that Aren't"



How about a yes or no.