Q1 2019 watch - if under 3.0% - where is Trump’s economic miracle - can Trump beat O’s 2.9% ever?

[airplanemechanic]

airplanemechanic, post: 22188402,

Can Trump beat Obama's 10% unemployment? Yea, 3.7%

Which President reduced unemployment from 10% to 4.8% so the next President wouid inherit much more stable conditions to further reduce unemployment from 4.8% to 3.7%.

TrumpO will never ever be able to lay claim to reducing unemployment by 5.2% in seven years.

So besides showing how stupid TrumpOroids are in these desperate attempts to have their white president crush the black president on unemployment, it’s obvious that they want no part of this discussion using GDP as the best measure we have.

That’s because it is not looking good for the Great White MAGA Hope.

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TrumpO is looking at 2.33 % for 2019 after the big mouthed moron said this:

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So, AirMech do you think TrumpO has an evangelical white Christian prayer of getting to 6.0%?

It took Obozo almost a decade to drop the unemployment rate by a few percentage points. When you're at 10% the economy is begging to get better. It got better despite him not because of him. The slowest economic recovery ever is not a bragging right.

By all means if it was Obozo, please quote Obozos economic policies, and the facts to back it up, that had anything to do with the economy improving. What was his trademark accomplishment? Obozocare. What did that do? Tank the economy.

 

[Faun]

airplanemechanic, post: 22188402,

Can Trump beat Obama's 10% unemployment? Yea, 3.7%

Which President reduced unemployment from 10% to 4.8% so the next President wouid inherit much more stable conditions to further reduce unemployment from 4.8% to 3.7%.

TrumpO will never ever be able to lay claim to reducing unemployment by 5.2% in seven years.

So besides showing how stupid TrumpOroids are in these desperate attempts to have their white president crush the black president on unemployment, it’s obvious that they want no part of this discussion using GDP as the best measure we have.

That’s because it is not looking good for the Great White MAGA Hope.

View attachment 255620

TrumpO is looking at 2.33 % for 2019 after the big mouthed moron said this:

View attachment 255621

So, AirMech do you think TrumpO has an evangelical white Christian prayer of getting to 6.0%?

It took Obozo almost a decade to drop the unemployment rate by a few percentage points. When you're at 10% the economy is begging to get better. It got better despite him not because of him. The slowest economic recovery ever is not a bragging right.

By all means if it was Obozo, please quote Obozos economic policies, and the facts to back it up, that had anything to do with the economy improving. What was his trademark accomplishment? Obozocare. What did that do? Tank the economy.

Takes time after the economy craters and leaves little tools available to fix it.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

airplanemechanic, post: 22188402,

Can Trump beat Obama's 10% unemployment? Yea, 3.7%

Which President reduced unemployment from 10% to 4.8% so the next President wouid inherit much more stable conditions to further reduce unemployment from 4.8% to 3.7%.

TrumpO will never ever be able to lay claim to reducing unemployment by 5.2% in seven years.

So besides showing how stupid TrumpOroids are in these desperate attempts to have their white president crush the black president on unemployment, it’s obvious that they want no part of this discussion using GDP as the best measure we have.

That’s because it is not looking good for the Great White MAGA Hope.

View attachment 255620

TrumpO is looking at 2.33 % for 2019 after the big mouthed moron said this:

View attachment 255621

So, AirMech do you think TrumpO has an evangelical white Christian prayer of getting to 6.0%?

It took Obozo almost a decade to drop the unemployment rate by a few percentage points. When you're at 10% the economy is begging to get better. It got better despite him not because of him. The slowest economic recovery ever is not a bragging right.

By all means if it was Obozo, please quote Obozos economic policies, and the facts to back it up, that had anything to do with the economy improving. What was his trademark accomplishment? Obozocare. What did that do? Tank the economy.

Takes time after the economy craters and leaves little tools available to fix it.

Ironically, the main cause of the recession, the housing bubble pop, was also a major reason for the slower return job growth as people were underwater with their houses and could not to go where the jobs were.


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[Faun]

airplanemechanic, post: 22188402,

Can Trump beat Obama's 10% unemployment? Yea, 3.7%

Which President reduced unemployment from 10% to 4.8% so the next President wouid inherit much more stable conditions to further reduce unemployment from 4.8% to 3.7%.

TrumpO will never ever be able to lay claim to reducing unemployment by 5.2% in seven years.

So besides showing how stupid TrumpOroids are in these desperate attempts to have their white president crush the black president on unemployment, it’s obvious that they want no part of this discussion using GDP as the best measure we have.

That’s because it is not looking good for the Great White MAGA Hope.

View attachment 255620

TrumpO is looking at 2.33 % for 2019 after the big mouthed moron said this:

View attachment 255621

So, AirMech do you think TrumpO has an evangelical white Christian prayer of getting to 6.0%?

It took Obozo almost a decade to drop the unemployment rate by a few percentage points. When you're at 10% the economy is begging to get better. It got better despite him not because of him. The slowest economic recovery ever is not a bragging right.

By all means if it was Obozo, please quote Obozos economic policies, and the facts to back it up, that had anything to do with the economy improving. What was his trademark accomplishment? Obozocare. What did that do? Tank the economy.

Takes time after the economy craters and leaves little tools available to fix it.

Ironically, the main cause of the recession, the housing bubble pop, was also a major reason for the slower return job growth as people were underwater with their houses and could not to go where the jobs were.


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No one could have recovered much faster, if at all faster, given the structural damage to the economy. Obama did what needed to be done, which was to dump a shit load of money into the economy to keep it from slipping into a depression; to give time to the private sector to get back on its feet. At the same time, the Federal Reserve did what they had to do by dropping the federal fund rate to its lowest possible rate. All that helped turn the economy around, which began climbing out of the crater in 2010.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

airplanemechanic, post: 22207809

The slowest economic recovery ever is not a bragging right.

Obama’s recovery is also an expansion and is about to become the longest running expansion in US history.

You call the Obama recovery a slow expansion. Slower than what? The 1980s?

Obama’s 7 years of avg GDP growth around 2.2 percent is close to what the economists are calling the new normal.

TrumpO won’t hit 3.0 GDP for full year.

• Week Ending April 12, 2019:The New York Fed Staff Nowcast stands at 1.4% for 2019:Q1 and 2.0% for 2019:Q2.

FEDERAL RESERVE BANK of NEW YORK

We only have two years of TrumpoO but it will soon be certain that with respect to GDP growth TrumpO will be lucky to finish ahead of Obama if there is no recession during his second two years. A recession and TrumpO is done.

Here’s the question. Will you stop calling the record long economic expansion that started in 2010 ‘SLOW’ if TrumpO never has a full year of growth above 3.0 GDP?

That’s what TrumpO considers to be slow. Why won’t he apply it to himself?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

airplanemechanic, post: 22207809

The slowest economic recovery ever is not a bragging right.

Obama’s recovery is also an expansion and is about to become the longest running expansion in US history.

You call the Obama recovery a slow expansion. Slower than what? The 1980s?

Obama’s 7 years of avg GDP growth around 2.2 percent is close to what the economists are calling the new normal.

TrumpO won’t hit 3.0 GDP for full year.

• Week Ending April 12, 2019:The New York Fed Staff Nowcast stands at 1.4% for 2019:Q1 and 2.0% for 2019:Q2.

FEDERAL RESERVE BANK of NEW YORK

We only have two years of TrumpoO but it will soon be certain that with respect to GDP growth TrumpO will be lucky to finish ahead of Obama if there is no recession during his second two years. A recession and TrumpO is done.

Here’s the question. Will you stop calling the record long economic expansion that started in 2010 ‘SLOW’ if TrumpO never has a full year of growth above 3.0 GDP?

That’s what TrumpO considers to be slow. Why won’t he apply it to himself?

You call the Obama recovery a slow expansion. Slower than what? The 1980s?

Yes. And the 1950s. The 1960s. The 1970s. The 1990s. The 2000s.

2.2 percent is close to what the economists are calling the new normal.

Sure, if we keep making the government ever larger.
If we add 200,000 new pages of regulations, will that make the "new normal" higher or lower?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

I wrote: 2.2 percent is close to what the economists are calling the new normal.

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22209309

Sure, if we keep making the government ever larger.

If we add 200,000 new pages of regulations, will that make the "new normal" higher or lower?

Let TrumpO answer you question. Huge tax cuts for rich and corporations and wiping out regulations left and right - what do we get?

The same new normal that Obama got after two flash in the pan high TRUMPO GDP Quarters last year.

Below 3.0 GDP in the deregulation and low tax era plus a recession coming in about a year.

Trumpo is proving the new normal is here to stay right in front of your blindfolded eyes.

We had seven years since 2009 of results at 2.2 GDP with regulations in place and more revenue to fund the Governnent.

You keep forgetting TrumpO is getting the same results as Obama except your idiot promised 4.9 GDP per year - maybe 6.0.

Nowcasting Report - FEDERAL RESERVE BANK of NEW YORK
Apr 12, 2019: New York Fed Staff Nowcast. The New York Fed Staff Nowcast stands at 1.4% for 2019:Q1 and 2.0% for 2019:Q2.

Whatcha gonna do if TrumpO comes in below 1.5 for Q1 2919?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I wrote: 2.2 percent is close to what the economists are calling the new normal.

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22209309

Sure, if we keep making the government ever larger.

If we add 200,000 new pages of regulations, will that make the "new normal" higher or lower?

Let TrumpO answer you question. Huge tax cuts for rich and corporations and wiping out regulations left and right - what do we get?

The same new normal that Obama got after two flash in the pan high TRUMPO GDP Quarters last year.

Below 3.0 GDP in the deregulation and low tax era plus a recession coming in about a year.

Trumpo is proving the new normal is here to stay right in front of your blindfolded eyes.

We had seven years since 2009 of results at 2.2 GDP with regulations in place and more revenue to fund the Governnent.

You keep forgetting TrumpO is getting the same results as Obama except your idiot promised 4.9 GDP per year - maybe 6.0.

Nowcasting Report - FEDERAL RESERVE BANK of NEW YORK
Apr 12, 2019: New York Fed Staff Nowcast. The New York Fed Staff Nowcast stands at 1.4% for 2019:Q1 and 2.0% for 2019:Q2.

Whatcha gonna do if TrumpO comes in below 1.5 for Q1 2919?

Huge tax cuts for rich and corporations and wiping out regulations left and right - what do we get?

The same new normal that Obama got after two flash in the pan high TRUMPO GDP Quarters last year.

We'll have to see how Trump's eight years compares to Obozo's weak ass eight years.

New York Fed Staff Nowcast. The New York Fed Staff Nowcast stands at 1.4% for 2019:Q1

That would be better than Obozo's -1.0% for 2011:Q1.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22210405

We'll have to see how Trump's eight years compares to Obozo's weak ass eight years.

Weak-assed TrumpO hasn’t pulled away from weak-ass Obama after two years.

We can of course compare Obama’s second four years to TrumpO’s first four years since Obama’s second term is three years removed from the Great Bush Recession. Trumpo’s four years are seven years removed from the GBR.

That will be the most equitable comparison and more than likely the only inaugural to finished term comparison we will ever see.

You might as well admit that TrumpO is weak on the economy if Obama is weak. That is because Trumpo won’t get over 3.0 GDP in 2019 with a start as being forecast we’ll below 3.0 already.,and very likely that 2020 is lower yet and maybe the TRUMPo recession begins.

Apr 12, 2019: New York Fed Staff Nowcast:
1.4% for 2019:Q1.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22210405

We'll have to see how Trump's eight years compares to Obozo's weak ass eight years.

Weak-assed TrumpO hasn’t pulled away from weak-ass Obama after two years.

We can of course compare Obama’s second four years to TrumpO’s first four years since Obama’s second term is three years removed from the Great Bush Recession. Trumpo’s four years are seven years removed from the GBR.

That will be the most equitable comparison and more than likely the only inaugural to finished term comparison we will ever see.

You might as well admit that TrumpO is weak on the economy if Obama is weak. That is because Trumpo won’t get over 3.0 GDP in 2019 with a start as being forecast we’ll below 3.0 already.,and very likely that 2020 is lower yet and maybe the TRUMPo recession begins.

Apr 12, 2019: New York Fed Staff Nowcast:
1.4% for 2019:Q1.

I'll be happy to admit, Obama had the weakest recovery since WWII.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22213299

I'll be happy to admit, Obama had the weakest recovery since WWII.

So you are happy to be admitting that TumpO’s economic expansion during his first two years is tied with what you call the weakest recovery and expansion since WWII.

That certainly puts Obama’s and TrumpO at the same level as measured by GDP no matter what TrumpOroids decide to call them.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22213299

I'll be happy to admit, Obama had the weakest recovery since WWII.

So you are happy to be admitting that TumpO’s economic expansion during his first two years is tied with what you call the weakest recovery and expansion since WWII.

That certainly puts Obama’s and TrumpO at the same level as measured by GDP no matter what TrumpOroids decide to call them.

I'm happy to admit Obama had a really weak recovery. Really. Weak.
I'm also happy to admit that Trump's average growth is higher than Obama's average, not tied.
Also, Obama's 9th quarter was -1.0%.
Your previous posts predict Trump's 9th quarter might be +1.4%.

Do you think that +1.4% is larger than -1.0%?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22216930

I'm also happy to admit that Trump's average growth is higher than Obama's average, not tied.

If TRUMPo resigned today you could compare the full term average of each President. But unfortunately he didn’t. So if you were an honest person you would accept TrumpO’s definition of what made Obama’s weak, weak weak.

NotfooledbyW, post: 22164534

"Obama is the first president in modern history not to have a single year of 3 percent growth," Trump said during an Oct. 28 campaign rally in Manchester, N.H.

Trump was not referring to Obama's eight year average GDP as the bar. TrumpO said not having “a single year” of 3 percent growth is weak weak weak. Anemic.

So as of this moment of truth in the reality of time, TrumpO does not have “a single year” of 3 percent growth just like Obama. (Actually Obama’ does but more in that later) And no such year is in any forecast for the next two years.

Why do you ignore your cult-masters’ words?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22216930

I'm also happy to admit that Trump's average growth is higher than Obama's average, not tied.

You don’t know what TrumpO’s eight year average growth is. Why do you lie about that?

The best years 2015 and 2018 are tied.

However more, Obama has a full year above 3.0. TrumpO Does Not.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22216930

I'm also happy to admit that Trump's average growth is higher than Obama's average, not tied.

You don’t know what TrumpO’s eight year average growth is. Why do you lie about that?

The best years 2015 and 2018 are tied.

However more, Obama has a full year above 3.0. TrumpO Does Not.

You don’t know what TrumpO’s eight year average growth is

Yeah, thanks for the moronic strawman.

Obozo's average is lower than Trump's current average.
You're the one who keeps bring up Trump's (non-existent) eight year numbers.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22216930

I'm also happy to admit that Trump's average growth is higher than Obama's average, not tied.

If TRUMPo resigned today you could compare the full term average of each President. But unfortunately he didn’t. So if you were an honest person you would accept TrumpO’s definition of what made Obama’s weak, weak weak.

NotfooledbyW, post: 22164534

"Obama is the first president in modern history not to have a single year of 3 percent growth," Trump said during an Oct. 28 campaign rally in Manchester, N.H.

Trump was not referring to Obama's eight year average GDP as the bar. TrumpO said not having “a single year” of 3 percent growth is weak weak weak. Anemic.

So as of this moment of truth in the reality of time, TrumpO does not have “a single year” of 3 percent growth just like Obama. (Actually Obama’ does but more in that later) And no such year is in any forecast for the next two years.

Why do you ignore your cult-masters’ words?

not having “a single year” of 3 percent growth is weak weak weak

It's certainly possible that Trump could have eight years without ever breaking 3 percent
and still have much better numbers than Obozo. We'll have to wait and see.

In the mean time, you never said whether +1.4% was higher than -1.0%......

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22217673

It's certainly possible that Trump could have eight years without ever breaking 3 percent
and still have much better numbers than Obozo. We'll have to wait and see.

Then TRUMP’s economy will be weak. that’s according to Trumpo? weak. Nothing near what tax cuts and deregulation were supposed to produce.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22217673

It's certainly possible that Trump could have eight years without ever breaking 3 percent
and still have much better numbers than Obozo. We'll have to wait and see.

Then TRUMP’s economy will be weak. that’s according to Trumpo? weak. Nothing near what tax cuts and deregulation were supposed to produce.

It's certainly possible.
Be sure to ping me when that happens.

In the mean time, keep whining about Obama's weak ass recovery.

 

[Dick Foster]

And liberals/democrats have done everything they could to hamper any growth.

Which was about nothing the first two years. Repubs had full control. But it's funny you still try to blame dems. Partisans are so very dumb.

Listen, how about I break it down to a level you may understand. Let's say I was adding a room onto a house, I have a deadline. Every third day you call the city to come out because you question something being done. What happens to my deadline?

Repubs have done everything to the economy they claimed would make it great again. They did their big tax cuts. They have eliminated regulations. Nobody stood in their way for 2 years. And even with huge deficits we didn't hit 3%. Sad.

Why are so many Americans struggling in cities run by democrats with tons of money ??

You mean all cities? I thought trump made everything great again? Who is struggling?

According to them and what they say, democrats are suffering. And they can't suffer enough to make me happy. And they're gonna suffer some more come 2010. Can't wait!

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22217655,

Obozo's average is lower than Trump's current average.

TrumpO said nothing about full term average. He said no single year above 3.0 avg gdp
Is weak.

Trumpo has had 8 quarters and has failed to put 4 quarters together over 3.0 GDP.

Obama has put 4 quarters together well above 3.0.

I get 3.23.

Trump’s current record is weak according to Trump. Obama’s is not.

That is the current reality moron.