Question For Normal People.Does Anyone Actually Believe There Was A Hillary Bounce?

[Bush92]

I am pretty sure that Bill has witnessed Monica bouncing naked on his bed

He and Hillary's bed. But she was not around.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

I am pretty sure that Bill has witnessed Monica bouncing naked on his bed

He and Hillary's bed. But she was not around.

if Hillary jumped/bounced on any white house bed, she and the bed would wind up on the lower level covered in plaster

 

[Dekster]

The American worker was betrayed by William Jefferson Clinton and all of the Neo-Dems that came to WashingtonDC in mid-1970's. Biden, Dodd, Kerry, and governors like Clinton sold out FDR wing of party for a free trade stance.

Yes, everyone had free trade fever in those days. Nafta Passed with nearly all republicans voting for and the democrats split so don't make it all about Clinton.

At the time it passed though there was supposed to be follow up deals to protect vulnerable industries that never materialized. It is part of the reason textiles disappeared from the South.

Well That would have also been the job of Bush and his super-majority who did noting except attack organized labor in all it's forms. Don't you remember having the free trade fever? Lord knows republicans had a united front on that until even they heard the giant sucking sound.

You make no sense. Bush was out of office when NAFTA was enacted and therefore he would have had no say in follow up agreements that never materialized.

I'm talking about GWB after 2000 when outsourcing became an almost fatal hemorrhage while personal debt went stratospheric. Bound to be some point where the economy blew up. You say Nafta was supposed to be fixed at some point? The period where it really started to hurt was not during Clinton, he had the dom-com boom to mask the negatives, Jobs went flat almost as soon as Bush took office and no one did a goddamned thing.

They are different dynamics though. NAFTA really did a lot of damage. W. chased the housing bubble, but he had wars to pay for. W.'s actual campaign latforms were slightly leftish originally but then 9/11 happened and he went full-bore right wing

 

[sealybobo]

This is what it comes down to. The MSM failed to prevent The Donald from winning the primary. If the MSM fails to prevent The Donald from winning the presidency, they are in real trouble and their function as the propaganda arm of the democrats will be a mess like the democrat national carnival.

The media hasn't been liberal since the GOP got bill Clinton to go along with deregulating it in 1997 or 98. Like NAFTA this is another thing I didn't like bill doing.

If the media was liberal bush would have never gotten away with lying us into Iraq or stealing the 2000 election

 

[Bush92]

The American worker was betrayed by William Jefferson Clinton and all of the Neo-Dems that came to WashingtonDC in mid-1970's. Biden, Dodd, Kerry, and governors like Clinton sold out FDR wing of party for a free trade stance.

Yes, everyone had free trade fever in those days. Nafta Passed with nearly all republicans voting for and the democrats split so don't make it all about Clinton.

At the time it passed though there was supposed to be follow up deals to protect vulnerable industries that never materialized. It is part of the reason textiles disappeared from the South.

Well That would have also been the job of Bush and his super-majority who did noting except attack organized labor in all it's forms. Don't you remember having the free trade fever? Lord knows republicans had a united front on that until even they heard the giant sucking sound.

You make no sense. Bush was out of office when NAFTA was enacted and therefore he would have had no say in follow up agreements that never materialized.

I'm talking about GWB after 2000 when outsourcing became an almost fatal hemorrhage while personal debt went stratospheric. Bound to be some point where the economy blew up. You say Nafta was supposed to be fixed at some point? The period where it really started to hurt was not during Clinton, he had the dom-com boom to mask the negatives, Jobs went flat almost as soon as Bush took office and no one did a goddamned thing.

Outsourcing began with Clinton. Factories ran overproduction to fill warehouses and then started to move in late 1990's. Overproduction bought time to build factories in Maquiladoras.

 

[Oldstyle]

What policy proposals is she going to "hammer"? The recycled Obama infrastructure stimulus? The Bernie Sander's give-a-ways that she was force to put into the platform to try and keep millions of his supporters from telling her to go screw herself? Clinton has no policies that will create jobs...but she'll cost them. That's what Trump is going to "hammer" her on!

The recycled Obama infrastructure stimulus?

yes that is one of them

the shovel ready jobs --LOL

but why does she need to do that

when as she and the leftards claim

the economy is really good

???????????

They can parade a couple hundred people across a stage gushing about how wonderful the economy is, Jon but that doesn't turn 1 1/2% growth into something that actually IS good! The American blue collar worker got left behind in this "recovery" and they're watching the DNC clown show with growing disgust. Hillary is bought and paid for by Wall Street fat cats. She isn't going to do diddly for American workers.

Let me remind you what you Republicans were telling the blue collar workers back in 2008 when bush was shipping 700,000 of their jobs overseas.

You told them they were overpaid. You told them they were lazy. You told them to go back to school or start their own company.

You had zero compassion 8 years ago for these uneducated workers. Now you are using them as a political football.


Benghazi

What a crock! Conservatives didn't tell American workers they were over paid...a global economy did. You liberals didn't even give those workers a fighting chance because you passed regulations that made the cost of doing business in America so prohibitively expensive that even people like Jeffrey Immeldt started shipping jobs to China! You're still doing it! Your party doesn't have a plan to create permanent jobs for blue collar Americans. You've recycled the same failed stimulus ideas that Nancy Pelosi promised would create hundreds of thousands of "shovel ready jobs"!

You mean infrastructure? Great idea. Our bridges and roads are falling apart.

Gw bush doubled the debt and spent nothing on infrastructure for 8 years

We've collected gasoline taxes that were supposed to go towards fixing our bridges and roads all along, Sealy but those monies were diverted to help pay for the entitlements you liberals can't live without. So don't blame the state of our roads and bridges on conservatives.

 

[Bush92]

I am pretty sure that Bill has witnessed Monica bouncing naked on his bed

He and Hillary's bed. But she was not around.

if Hillary jumped/bounced on any white house bed, she and the bed would wind up on the lower level covered in plaster

And liberal media would blame Trump.

 

[HUGGY]

This is what it comes down to. The MSM failed to prevent The Donald from winning the primary. If the MSM fails to prevent The Donald from winning the presidency, they are in real trouble and their function as the propaganda arm of the democrats will be a mess like the democrat national carnival.

I dunno??? ABC trashed Trump this evening also.

 

[Oldstyle]

We've had almost eight years of Barry...so tell me how much better off blue collar American workers are NOW!

Why didn't they go back to school or start their own business'?

That's the only advice you had for them 8 years ago when bush sent their jobs overseas.

Bush actually passed tax breaks for companies sending jobs overseas. I'm going to go dig up the facts.

You want me to give you the URL for Think Progress or The Huffington Post, Sealy?

 

[Bush92]

Yes, everyone had free trade fever in those days. Nafta Passed with nearly all republicans voting for and the democrats split so don't make it all about Clinton.

At the time it passed though there was supposed to be follow up deals to protect vulnerable industries that never materialized. It is part of the reason textiles disappeared from the South.

Well That would have also been the job of Bush and his super-majority who did noting except attack organized labor in all it's forms. Don't you remember having the free trade fever? Lord knows republicans had a united front on that until even they heard the giant sucking sound.

You make no sense. Bush was out of office when NAFTA was enacted and therefore he would have had no say in follow up agreements that never materialized.

I'm talking about GWB after 2000 when outsourcing became an almost fatal hemorrhage while personal debt went stratospheric. Bound to be some point where the economy blew up. You say Nafta was supposed to be fixed at some point? The period where it really started to hurt was not during Clinton, he had the dom-com boom to mask the negatives, Jobs went flat almost as soon as Bush took office and no one did a goddamned thing.

They are different dynamics though. NAFTA really did a lot of damage. W. chased the housing bubble, but he had wars to pay for. W.'s actual campaign latforms were slightly leftish originally but then 9/11 happened and he went full-bore right wing

Clinton started housing bubble by makin homes available to minority neighborhoods that could not afford them. Got him votes though.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

i miss the good old days when Gerry Ford would walk up or down air force one, then take a nasty bounce

 

[Bush92]

This is what it comes down to. The MSM failed to prevent The Donald from winning the primary. If the MSM fails to prevent The Donald from winning the presidency, they are in real trouble and their function as the propaganda arm of the democrats will be a mess like the democrat national carnival.

I dunno??? ABC trashed Trump this evening also.

I see light slipping into your darkness. That's a good thing.

 

[Bush92]

i miss the good old days when Gerry Ford would walk up or down air force one, then take a nasty bounce

Or a rabbit attack Carter on a fishing trip.

 

[occupied]

Yes, everyone had free trade fever in those days. Nafta Passed with nearly all republicans voting for and the democrats split so don't make it all about Clinton.

At the time it passed though there was supposed to be follow up deals to protect vulnerable industries that never materialized. It is part of the reason textiles disappeared from the South.

Well That would have also been the job of Bush and his super-majority who did noting except attack organized labor in all it's forms. Don't you remember having the free trade fever? Lord knows republicans had a united front on that until even they heard the giant sucking sound.

So tell me how this works, Occupied...one of the biggest exporters of American jobs overseas was the CEO of General Electric! So guess who Barack Obama made his "Jobs Czar"? Then you progressives call it a GOP problem? Really? I mean REALLY!!!

Oh yes, a good example is the Very pro-republican US chamber of commerce writing corporate law/regulation/tax bills that got passed almost verbatim and even holding seminars on how best to relocate to a country that allows corporate slavery. You think GE is not going to do what everyone else was doing in a mad dash to remain competitive? This is what you get when you insist on "business friendly" politicians, they are going to do what big business wants.

And Clinton support repeal of Glass-Stegal. You are a Democrat robot. Fuck the party. They fucked over me, you, and millions of others thinking we would be lemmings and vote for them every November. No sir. Fuck them.

You are the one being hyper-partisan here. I am well aware of the part Clinton and the democrats played in setting up the house of cards and believe this: I do not hold them blameless. As I said earlier, Trump will be my reason for voting. I once said that I would never cast a vote for Clinton but you guys had to go and nominate someone so terribly horribly bad I will have to break my promise to myself. If for nothing else you guys suck for that.

 

[Bush92]

At the time it passed though there was supposed to be follow up deals to protect vulnerable industries that never materialized. It is part of the reason textiles disappeared from the South.

Well That would have also been the job of Bush and his super-majority who did noting except attack organized labor in all it's forms. Don't you remember having the free trade fever? Lord knows republicans had a united front on that until even they heard the giant sucking sound.

So tell me how this works, Occupied...one of the biggest exporters of American jobs overseas was the CEO of General Electric! So guess who Barack Obama made his "Jobs Czar"? Then you progressives call it a GOP problem? Really? I mean REALLY!!!

Oh yes, a good example is the Very pro-republican US chamber of commerce writing corporate law/regulation/tax bills that got passed almost verbatim and even holding seminars on how best to relocate to a country that allows corporate slavery. You think GE is not going to do what everyone else was doing in a mad dash to remain competitive? This is what you get when you insist on "business friendly" politicians, they are going to do what big business wants.

And Clinton support repeal of Glass-Stegal. You are a Democrat robot. Fuck the party. They fucked over me, you, and millions of others thinking we would be lemmings and vote for them every November. No sir. Fuck them.

You are the one being hyper-partisan here. I am well aware of the part Clinton and the democrats played in setting up the house of cards and believe this: I do not hold them blameless. As I said earlier, Trump will be my reason for voting. I once said that I would never cast a vote for Clinton but you guys had to go and nominate someone so terribly horribly bad I will have to break my promise to myself. If for nothing else you guys suck for that.

What's so bad about standing up for America and bringing jobs back?

 

[sealybobo]

The recycled Obama infrastructure stimulus?

yes that is one of them

the shovel ready jobs --LOL

but why does she need to do that

when as she and the leftards claim

the economy is really good

???????????

They can parade a couple hundred people across a stage gushing about how wonderful the economy is, Jon but that doesn't turn 1 1/2% growth into something that actually IS good! The American blue collar worker got left behind in this "recovery" and they're watching the DNC clown show with growing disgust. Hillary is bought and paid for by Wall Street fat cats. She isn't going to do diddly for American workers.

Let me remind you what you Republicans were telling the blue collar workers back in 2008 when bush was shipping 700,000 of their jobs overseas.

You told them they were overpaid. You told them they were lazy. You told them to go back to school or start their own company.

You had zero compassion 8 years ago for these uneducated workers. Now you are using them as a political football.


Benghazi

What a crock! Conservatives didn't tell American workers they were over paid...a global economy did. You liberals didn't even give those workers a fighting chance because you passed regulations that made the cost of doing business in America so prohibitively expensive that even people like Jeffrey Immeldt started shipping jobs to China! You're still doing it! Your party doesn't have a plan to create permanent jobs for blue collar Americans. You've recycled the same failed stimulus ideas that Nancy Pelosi promised would create hundreds of thousands of "shovel ready jobs"!

You mean infrastructure? Great idea. Our bridges and roads are falling apart.

Gw bush doubled the debt and spent nothing on infrastructure for 8 years

We've collected gasoline taxes that were supposed to go towards fixing our bridges and roads all along, Sealy but those monies were diverted to help pay for the entitlements you liberals can't live without. So don't blame the state of our roads and bridges on conservatives.

I just resent the baby boomers who had job security, good pay and benefits, pensions, savings, good interest, affordable college, cheap healthcare, social security, Medicare, and now say we can't afford all that stuff.

And many of them didn't even go to school! My parents. Both worked 20 years dad at Ford mom was medical biller. They are worth $700k. How many people in this generation will have that when they retire?

But on a positive note corporate profits are thru the roof and CEO pay is up

 

[Dekster]

Yes, everyone had free trade fever in those days. Nafta Passed with nearly all republicans voting for and the democrats split so don't make it all about Clinton.

At the time it passed though there was supposed to be follow up deals to protect vulnerable industries that never materialized. It is part of the reason textiles disappeared from the South.

Well That would have also been the job of Bush and his super-majority who did noting except attack organized labor in all it's forms. Don't you remember having the free trade fever? Lord knows republicans had a united front on that until even they heard the giant sucking sound.

You make no sense. Bush was out of office when NAFTA was enacted and therefore he would have had no say in follow up agreements that never materialized.

I'm talking about GWB after 2000 when outsourcing became an almost fatal hemorrhage while personal debt went stratospheric. Bound to be some point where the economy blew up. You say Nafta was supposed to be fixed at some point? The period where it really started to hurt was not during Clinton, he had the dom-com boom to mask the negatives, Jobs went flat almost as soon as Bush took office and no one did a goddamned thing.

Outsourcing began with Clinton. Factories ran overproduction to fill warehouses and then started to move in late 1990's. Overproduction bought time to build factories in Maquiladoras.

A lot of that is still going on but it is more related to time. Most facilities and equipment have a shelf-life. Companies do not usually shut down to retool/renovate. They build new and move when done.

 

[Bush92]

At the time it passed though there was supposed to be follow up deals to protect vulnerable industries that never materialized. It is part of the reason textiles disappeared from the South.

Well That would have also been the job of Bush and his super-majority who did noting except attack organized labor in all it's forms. Don't you remember having the free trade fever? Lord knows republicans had a united front on that until even they heard the giant sucking sound.

So tell me how this works, Occupied...one of the biggest exporters of American jobs overseas was the CEO of General Electric! So guess who Barack Obama made his "Jobs Czar"? Then you progressives call it a GOP problem? Really? I mean REALLY!!!

Oh yes, a good example is the Very pro-republican US chamber of commerce writing corporate law/regulation/tax bills that got passed almost verbatim and even holding seminars on how best to relocate to a country that allows corporate slavery. You think GE is not going to do what everyone else was doing in a mad dash to remain competitive? This is what you get when you insist on "business friendly" politicians, they are going to do what big business wants.

And Clinton support repeal of Glass-Stegal. You are a Democrat robot. Fuck the party. They fucked over me, you, and millions of others thinking we would be lemmings and vote for them every November. No sir. Fuck them.

You are the one being hyper-partisan here. I am well aware of the part Clinton and the democrats played in setting up the house of cards and believe this: I do not hold them blameless. As I said earlier, Trump will be my reason for voting. I once said that I would never cast a vote for Clinton but you guys had to go and nominate someone so terribly horribly bad I will have to break my promise to myself. If for nothing else you guys suck for that.

I have seen so many people hurt because of NAFTA...I do not care who the candidate is that will stop this shit. They have my vote. Remember, Trump has been a Democrat most of his life. So have you...so have I...but party has went nuts and left me.

 

[occupied]

Yes, everyone had free trade fever in those days. Nafta Passed with nearly all republicans voting for and the democrats split so don't make it all about Clinton.

At the time it passed though there was supposed to be follow up deals to protect vulnerable industries that never materialized. It is part of the reason textiles disappeared from the South.

Well That would have also been the job of Bush and his super-majority who did noting except attack organized labor in all it's forms. Don't you remember having the free trade fever? Lord knows republicans had a united front on that until even they heard the giant sucking sound.

You make no sense. Bush was out of office when NAFTA was enacted and therefore he would have had no say in follow up agreements that never materialized.

I'm talking about GWB after 2000 when outsourcing became an almost fatal hemorrhage while personal debt went stratospheric. Bound to be some point where the economy blew up. You say Nafta was supposed to be fixed at some point? The period where it really started to hurt was not during Clinton, he had the dom-com boom to mask the negatives, Jobs went flat almost as soon as Bush took office and no one did a goddamned thing.

Outsourcing began with Clinton. Factories ran overproduction to fill warehouses and then started to move in late 1990's. Overproduction bought time to build factories in Maquiladoras.

Yes I know, but the effects were not really reflected in the numbers. The economy boomed because of the dotcom bubble which had not yet popped. Such a once-a-century transformative thing as the internet would have made any economy look like all this outsourcing stuff was working great.

 

[HUGGY]

Well That would have also been the job of Bush and his super-majority who did noting except attack organized labor in all it's forms. Don't you remember having the free trade fever? Lord knows republicans had a united front on that until even they heard the giant sucking sound.

So tell me how this works, Occupied...one of the biggest exporters of American jobs overseas was the CEO of General Electric! So guess who Barack Obama made his "Jobs Czar"? Then you progressives call it a GOP problem? Really? I mean REALLY!!!

Oh yes, a good example is the Very pro-republican US chamber of commerce writing corporate law/regulation/tax bills that got passed almost verbatim and even holding seminars on how best to relocate to a country that allows corporate slavery. You think GE is not going to do what everyone else was doing in a mad dash to remain competitive? This is what you get when you insist on "business friendly" politicians, they are going to do what big business wants.

And Clinton support repeal of Glass-Stegal. You are a Democrat robot. Fuck the party. They fucked over me, you, and millions of others thinking we would be lemmings and vote for them every November. No sir. Fuck them.

You are the one being hyper-partisan here. I am well aware of the part Clinton and the democrats played in setting up the house of cards and believe this: I do not hold them blameless. As I said earlier, Trump will be my reason for voting. I once said that I would never cast a vote for Clinton but you guys had to go and nominate someone so terribly horribly bad I will have to break my promise to myself. If for nothing else you guys suck for that.

What's so bad about standing up for America and bringing jobs back?

Other than the fact the jobs are gone for good? Nothing. Trump nor any president can force a company to come back here to make things.