Question For Normal People.Does Anyone Actually Believe There Was A Hillary Bounce?

[Dekster]

A lot of that is still going on but it is more related to time. Most facilities and equipment have a shelf-life. Companies do not usually shut down to retool/renovate. They build new and move when done.

When you find out that the American people are not willing to be the slaves for you Losertarians, that will be a great day, loser-bitch.

You have made that same post like 5 times in two days. Do you eat the same sandwich every day for years too?

You are a liar and an idiot who hates American working class people.

That way you think you can have your slave work force.

You said it yourself, but if you are backing off of any of that and want to walk it back, be my guest, racist pig.

Outsourcing began with Clinton. Factories ran overproduction to fill warehouses and then started to move in late 1990's. Overproduction bought time to build factories in Maquiladoras.

Yes I know, but the effects were not really reflected in the numbers. The economy boomed because of the dotcom bubble which had not yet popped. Such a once-a-century transformative thing as the internet would have made any economy look like all this outsourcing stuff was working great.

But it may have been somewhat necessary to compete. Japan ate our lunch during the 80's because of their investments in the latest and greatest technologies. Old American looms just could not keep up with high tech textile equipment needing less workers but more investment.

A lot of that came from China becoming the world's main source of cheap cotton. Production naturally shifted to Asia. Not sure it would have been possible to compete with our depleted soil and expensive cotton.

Right now India is taking over cotton. Current supply doesn't meet current demand globally still, but India is adding acreage and increasing yields. Whatever is left of US cotton is functionally extinct.

how many billions of US dollars went to India through UN to help them do this?

No idea.

 

[JimBowie1958]

A lot of that is still going on but it is more related to time. Most facilities and equipment have a shelf-life. Companies do not usually shut down to retool/renovate. They build new and move when done.

When you find out that the American people are not willing to be the slaves for you Losertarians, that will be a great day, loser-bitch.

You have made that same post like 5 times in two days. Do you eat the same sandwich every day for years too?

You are a liar and an idiot who hates American working class people.

That way you think you can have your slave work force.

You said it yourself, but if you are backing off of any of that and want to walk it back, be my guest, racist pig.

Yes I know, but the effects were not really reflected in the numbers. The economy boomed because of the dotcom bubble which had not yet popped. Such a once-a-century transformative thing as the internet would have made any economy look like all this outsourcing stuff was working great.

But it may have been somewhat necessary to compete. Japan ate our lunch during the 80's because of their investments in the latest and greatest technologies. Old American looms just could not keep up with high tech textile equipment needing less workers but more investment.

A lot of that came from China becoming the world's main source of cheap cotton. Production naturally shifted to Asia. Not sure it would have been possible to compete with our depleted soil and expensive cotton.

Right now India is taking over cotton. Current supply doesn't meet current demand globally still, but India is adding acreage and increasing yields. Whatever is left of US cotton is functionally extinct.

how many billions of US dollars went to India through UN to help them do this?

No idea.

Wow, you said something Truthful for once.

You have no idea bout a Gawd damned thing, from you r stupid comments on pay scales in India, to your desire to revive slavery, to your inane comments on Open Borders.

You could just become an honest person, instead of just a wannabe barbarian.

 

[Bush92]

United States foreign aid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[occupied]

Oh yes, a good example is the Very pro-republican US chamber of commerce writing corporate law/regulation/tax bills that got passed almost verbatim and even holding seminars on how best to relocate to a country that allows corporate slavery. You think GE is not going to do what everyone else was doing in a mad dash to remain competitive? This is what you get when you insist on "business friendly" politicians, they are going to do what big business wants.

And Clinton support repeal of Glass-Stegal. You are a Democrat robot. Fuck the party. They fucked over me, you, and millions of others thinking we would be lemmings and vote for them every November. No sir. Fuck them.

You are the one being hyper-partisan here. I am well aware of the part Clinton and the democrats played in setting up the house of cards and believe this: I do not hold them blameless. As I said earlier, Trump will be my reason for voting. I once said that I would never cast a vote for Clinton but you guys had to go and nominate someone so terribly horribly bad I will have to break my promise to myself. If for nothing else you guys suck for that.

What's so bad about standing up for America and bringing jobs back?

Those jobs are now being done by robots in other countries. Those jobs no longer exist to bring back so it is the emptiest of promises. Jobs have to be made from scratch through innovation and investment in emerging technologies and upgrading infrastructure to increase efficiency.

I was infantry in military. You need boots on ground to take ground and hold it. Technology and firepower is a great thing...but not bottom line. I have also worked manufacturing. To say that automation has can do every this a false statement.

I didn't say that but it has taken over a vast amount of formerly human labor on practically anything you can imagine. Where it might have once took 5000 workers to turn iron ore into I-beams it now takes a fraction of that. Even if the entire operation came back there would be a vast net loss of jobs. The only solution is to make kick-ass robots and export them but even that is an eventual dead-end as automation is expected to make even service industry jobs obsolete. I suppose we will always need men to fight each other but if that is to be our main source of employment then God help us.

 

[Oldstyle]

They can parade a couple hundred people across a stage gushing about how wonderful the economy is, Jon but that doesn't turn 1 1/2% growth into something that actually IS good! The American blue collar worker got left behind in this "recovery" and they're watching the DNC clown show with growing disgust. Hillary is bought and paid for by Wall Street fat cats. She isn't going to do diddly for American workers.

Let me remind you what you Republicans were telling the blue collar workers back in 2008 when bush was shipping 700,000 of their jobs overseas.

You told them they were overpaid. You told them they were lazy. You told them to go back to school or start their own company.

You had zero compassion 8 years ago for these uneducated workers. Now you are using them as a political football.


Benghazi

What a crock! Conservatives didn't tell American workers they were over paid...a global economy did. You liberals didn't even give those workers a fighting chance because you passed regulations that made the cost of doing business in America so prohibitively expensive that even people like Jeffrey Immeldt started shipping jobs to China! You're still doing it! Your party doesn't have a plan to create permanent jobs for blue collar Americans. You've recycled the same failed stimulus ideas that Nancy Pelosi promised would create hundreds of thousands of "shovel ready jobs"!

You mean infrastructure? Great idea. Our bridges and roads are falling apart.

Gw bush doubled the debt and spent nothing on infrastructure for 8 years

We've collected gasoline taxes that were supposed to go towards fixing our bridges and roads all along, Sealy but those monies were diverted to help pay for the entitlements you liberals can't live without. So don't blame the state of our roads and bridges on conservatives.

I just resent the baby boomers who had job security, good pay and benefits, pensions, savings, good interest, affordable college, cheap healthcare, social security, Medicare, and now say we can't afford all that stuff.

And many of them didn't even go to school! My parents. Both worked 20 years dad at Ford mom was medical biller. They are worth $700k. How many people in this generation will have that when they retire?

But on a positive note corporate profits are thru the roof and CEO pay is up

What do Baby Boomers have to do with Government diverting monies taxed to fix roads and bridges to pay for entitlements?

Your parents were members of the UAW, a union that kept demanding increases in wages and benefits until it was no longer possible to make a profit on a car made in America. You want to blame someone for our inability to afford stuff now? Ask your parents what their pension is!

 

[jon_berzerk]

The recycled Obama infrastructure stimulus?

yes that is one of them

the shovel ready jobs --LOL

but why does she need to do that

when as she and the leftards claim

the economy is really good

???????????

They can parade a couple hundred people across a stage gushing about how wonderful the economy is, Jon but that doesn't turn 1 1/2% growth into something that actually IS good! The American blue collar worker got left behind in this "recovery" and they're watching the DNC clown show with growing disgust. Hillary is bought and paid for by Wall Street fat cats. She isn't going to do diddly for American workers.

Let me remind you what you Republicans were telling the blue collar workers back in 2008 when bush was shipping 700,000 of their jobs overseas.

You told them they were overpaid. You told them they were lazy. You told them to go back to school or start their own company.

You had zero compassion 8 years ago for these uneducated workers. Now you are using them as a political football.


Benghazi

What a crock! Conservatives didn't tell American workers they were over paid...a global economy did. You liberals didn't even give those workers a fighting chance because you passed regulations that made the cost of doing business in America so prohibitively expensive that even people like Jeffrey Immeldt started shipping jobs to China! You're still doing it! Your party doesn't have a plan to create permanent jobs for blue collar Americans. You've recycled the same failed stimulus ideas that Nancy Pelosi promised would create hundreds of thousands of "shovel ready jobs"!

You mean infrastructure? Great idea. Our bridges and roads are falling apart.

Gw bush doubled the debt and spent nothing on infrastructure for 8 years

We've collected gasoline taxes that were supposed to go towards fixing our bridges and roads all along, Sealy but those monies were diverted to help pay for the entitlements you liberals can't live without. So don't blame the state of our roads and bridges on conservatives.

they do the same bs with monies that are supposed to go to schools

 

[jon_berzerk]

So tell me how this works, Occupied...one of the biggest exporters of American jobs overseas was the CEO of General Electric! So guess who Barack Obama made his "Jobs Czar"? Then you progressives call it a GOP problem? Really? I mean REALLY!!!

Oh yes, a good example is the Very pro-republican US chamber of commerce writing corporate law/regulation/tax bills that got passed almost verbatim and even holding seminars on how best to relocate to a country that allows corporate slavery. You think GE is not going to do what everyone else was doing in a mad dash to remain competitive? This is what you get when you insist on "business friendly" politicians, they are going to do what big business wants.

And Clinton support repeal of Glass-Stegal. You are a Democrat robot. Fuck the party. They fucked over me, you, and millions of others thinking we would be lemmings and vote for them every November. No sir. Fuck them.

You are the one being hyper-partisan here. I am well aware of the part Clinton and the democrats played in setting up the house of cards and believe this: I do not hold them blameless. As I said earlier, Trump will be my reason for voting. I once said that I would never cast a vote for Clinton but you guys had to go and nominate someone so terribly horribly bad I will have to break my promise to myself. If for nothing else you guys suck for that.

What's so bad about standing up for America and bringing jobs back?

Other than the fact the jobs are gone for good? Nothing. Trump nor any president can force a company to come back here to make things.

why force them

lower their tax rates when they come back

be competitive with the rest of the world

 

[occupied]

United States foreign aid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The scapegoat you are looking for is the World Bank and related global trade organizations. According to your link India is not even on the list of US foreign aid recipients.

 

[occupied]

Let me remind you what you Republicans were telling the blue collar workers back in 2008 when bush was shipping 700,000 of their jobs overseas.

You told them they were overpaid. You told them they were lazy. You told them to go back to school or start their own company.

You had zero compassion 8 years ago for these uneducated workers. Now you are using them as a political football.


Benghazi

What a crock! Conservatives didn't tell American workers they were over paid...a global economy did. You liberals didn't even give those workers a fighting chance because you passed regulations that made the cost of doing business in America so prohibitively expensive that even people like Jeffrey Immeldt started shipping jobs to China! You're still doing it! Your party doesn't have a plan to create permanent jobs for blue collar Americans. You've recycled the same failed stimulus ideas that Nancy Pelosi promised would create hundreds of thousands of "shovel ready jobs"!

You mean infrastructure? Great idea. Our bridges and roads are falling apart.

Gw bush doubled the debt and spent nothing on infrastructure for 8 years

We've collected gasoline taxes that were supposed to go towards fixing our bridges and roads all along, Sealy but those monies were diverted to help pay for the entitlements you liberals can't live without. So don't blame the state of our roads and bridges on conservatives.

I just resent the baby boomers who had job security, good pay and benefits, pensions, savings, good interest, affordable college, cheap healthcare, social security, Medicare, and now say we can't afford all that stuff.

And many of them didn't even go to school! My parents. Both worked 20 years dad at Ford mom was medical biller. They are worth $700k. How many people in this generation will have that when they retire?

But on a positive note corporate profits are thru the roof and CEO pay is up

What do Baby Boomers have to do with Government diverting monies taxed to fix roads and bridges to pay for entitlements?

Your parents were members of the UAW, a union that kept demanding increases in wages and benefits until it was no longer possible to make a profit on a car made in America. You want to blame someone for our inability to afford stuff now? Ask your parents what their pension is!

Way to kick an American worker for demanding that their wages keep pace with the cost of living. People like you like to blame unions when it was really a bunch of very rich people and their pet politicians who thought it would be really cool to make our working class compete directly with Chinese peasant labor without a hint of protectionism.

 

[HUGGY]

Other than the fact the jobs are gone for good? Nothing. Trump nor any president can force a company to come back here to make things.

You are a fucking idiot. The same policies that pushed the businesses out can reverse and bring them back in.

Go back to your porn, doofus.

Nobody "pushed" companies out of this country. The republicans just passed bills that encouraged them with tax benefits. There is no point talking about it with someone so misinformed.

 

[HUGGY]

Oh yes, a good example is the Very pro-republican US chamber of commerce writing corporate law/regulation/tax bills that got passed almost verbatim and even holding seminars on how best to relocate to a country that allows corporate slavery. You think GE is not going to do what everyone else was doing in a mad dash to remain competitive? This is what you get when you insist on "business friendly" politicians, they are going to do what big business wants.

And Clinton support repeal of Glass-Stegal. You are a Democrat robot. Fuck the party. They fucked over me, you, and millions of others thinking we would be lemmings and vote for them every November. No sir. Fuck them.

You are the one being hyper-partisan here. I am well aware of the part Clinton and the democrats played in setting up the house of cards and believe this: I do not hold them blameless. As I said earlier, Trump will be my reason for voting. I once said that I would never cast a vote for Clinton but you guys had to go and nominate someone so terribly horribly bad I will have to break my promise to myself. If for nothing else you guys suck for that.

What's so bad about standing up for America and bringing jobs back?

Other than the fact the jobs are gone for good? Nothing. Trump nor any president can force a company to come back here to make things.

Oh but yes he will. Never talk defeat. That is what Wall Street wants. They want you to give up. No...he will.

Rubbish!

 

[HUGGY]

Oh yes, a good example is the Very pro-republican US chamber of commerce writing corporate law/regulation/tax bills that got passed almost verbatim and even holding seminars on how best to relocate to a country that allows corporate slavery. You think GE is not going to do what everyone else was doing in a mad dash to remain competitive? This is what you get when you insist on "business friendly" politicians, they are going to do what big business wants.

And Clinton support repeal of Glass-Stegal. You are a Democrat robot. Fuck the party. They fucked over me, you, and millions of others thinking we would be lemmings and vote for them every November. No sir. Fuck them.

You are the one being hyper-partisan here. I am well aware of the part Clinton and the democrats played in setting up the house of cards and believe this: I do not hold them blameless. As I said earlier, Trump will be my reason for voting. I once said that I would never cast a vote for Clinton but you guys had to go and nominate someone so terribly horribly bad I will have to break my promise to myself. If for nothing else you guys suck for that.

What's so bad about standing up for America and bringing jobs back?

Other than the fact the jobs are gone for good? Nothing. Trump nor any president can force a company to come back here to make things.

why force them

lower their tax rates when they come back

be competitive with the rest of the world

So far you have the only solution that could possibly help reverse the outsourcing trend.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Normal people do respond favorably to optimism and positivity. What does it say about you that you can only vote your fears?

The positive offered by Clinton and the Democrats is false, and therefore negative.

 

[HUGGY]

Normal people do respond favorably to optimism and positivity. What does it say about you that you can only vote your fears?

The positive offered by Clinton and the Democrats is false, and therefore negative.

American voters are idiots.

 

[HUGGY]

Normal people do respond favorably to optimism and positivity. What does it say about you that you can only vote your fears?

The positive offered by Clinton and the Democrats is false, and therefore negative.

Neither Trump nor Clinton have the power to just throw out NAFTA and the Pacific Rim treaties. Saying they will is just bullshit. At best they can wait til it is time to renew the treaties and act then.

 

[jasonnfree]

Other than the fact the jobs are gone for good? Nothing. Trump nor any president can force a company to come back here to make things.

You are a fucking idiot. The same policies that pushed the businesses out can reverse and bring them back in.

Go back to your porn, doofus.

Nobody "pushed" companies out of this country. The republicans just passed bills that encouraged them with tax benefits. There is no point talking about it with someone so misinformed.

republicans might have passed offshoring bills, but they needed president's signature, and bill clinton obliged them.

 

[HUGGY]

Other than the fact the jobs are gone for good? Nothing. Trump nor any president can force a company to come back here to make things.

You are a fucking idiot. The same policies that pushed the businesses out can reverse and bring them back in.

Go back to your porn, doofus.

Nobody "pushed" companies out of this country. The republicans just passed bills that encouraged them with tax benefits. There is no point talking about it with someone so misinformed.

republicans might have passed offshoring bills, but they needed president's signature, and bill clinton obliged them.

Duh! I hate Bill Clinton. Always have.

 

[Oldstyle]

What a crock! Conservatives didn't tell American workers they were over paid...a global economy did. You liberals didn't even give those workers a fighting chance because you passed regulations that made the cost of doing business in America so prohibitively expensive that even people like Jeffrey Immeldt started shipping jobs to China! You're still doing it! Your party doesn't have a plan to create permanent jobs for blue collar Americans. You've recycled the same failed stimulus ideas that Nancy Pelosi promised would create hundreds of thousands of "shovel ready jobs"!

You mean infrastructure? Great idea. Our bridges and roads are falling apart.

Gw bush doubled the debt and spent nothing on infrastructure for 8 years

We've collected gasoline taxes that were supposed to go towards fixing our bridges and roads all along, Sealy but those monies were diverted to help pay for the entitlements you liberals can't live without. So don't blame the state of our roads and bridges on conservatives.

I just resent the baby boomers who had job security, good pay and benefits, pensions, savings, good interest, affordable college, cheap healthcare, social security, Medicare, and now say we can't afford all that stuff.

And many of them didn't even go to school! My parents. Both worked 20 years dad at Ford mom was medical biller. They are worth $700k. How many people in this generation will have that when they retire?

But on a positive note corporate profits are thru the roof and CEO pay is up

What do Baby Boomers have to do with Government diverting monies taxed to fix roads and bridges to pay for entitlements?

Your parents were members of the UAW, a union that kept demanding increases in wages and benefits until it was no longer possible to make a profit on a car made in America. You want to blame someone for our inability to afford stuff now? Ask your parents what their pension is!

Way to kick an American worker for demanding that their wages keep pace with the cost of living. People like you like to blame unions when it was really a bunch of very rich people and their pet politicians who thought it would be really cool to make our working class compete directly with Chinese peasant labor without a hint of protectionism.

I'm "kicking" American workers when I point out that UAW union demands for ridiculously high pay and benefit packages helped make it impossible to build cars in the US and make a profit? Those wages didn't keep pace with the cost of living and your claim that was all they wanted is laughable!

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

And who is taking the polls that claim Hillary has a 7 point bounce? And how many were polled? 1000? 2000? 3000?, what about the other 297 Million People?
No normal/intelligent fair minded American buys/falls for any of these polls. And why do the polls change every week? One week we have Trump ahead by 15 points, next week Hillary is ahead by 5,,then next week Trump is ahead by 10, then the following week its a tie.
Get the point? Maybe we should just ask our friends/neighbors instead? And why does Hillary need to campaign in Penn/Ohio? Didnt we all assume she has already won those states?

Donald John Trump will win all 57 states this November and if not then the polls will be so right!

Polls are meaningless, well unless they show your boy leading then you will masturbate yourself to death while being mentally raped by the idea Trump winning 57 states...

( Oh, and I know there are only 50 states in the Union )

 

[Bush92]

United States foreign aid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The scapegoat you are looking for is the World Bank and related global trade organizations. According to your link India is not even on the list of US foreign aid recipients.

But money is transferred through UN. They are the $$$$ launder.