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How can we pay for it? That economy was sold out by traitors like Bill Clinton. Trust me...I know where your coming from. There is generational angst. But a Hillary vote is not the answer. "fool me once Clinton's shame on you, fool me twice...won't happen bitch."I just resent the baby boomers who had job security, good pay and benefits, pensions, savings, good interest, affordable college, cheap healthcare, social security, Medicare, and now say we can't afford all that stuff.You mean infrastructure? Great idea. Our bridges and roads are falling apart.Let me remind you what you Republicans were telling the blue collar workers back in 2008 when bush was shipping 700,000 of their jobs overseas.They can parade a couple hundred people across a stage gushing about how wonderful the economy is, Jon but that doesn't turn 1 1/2% growth into something that actually IS good! The American blue collar worker got left behind in this "recovery" and they're watching the DNC clown show with growing disgust. Hillary is bought and paid for by Wall Street fat cats. She isn't going to do diddly for American workers.
You told them they were overpaid. You told them they were lazy. You told them to go back to school or start their own company.
You had zero compassion 8 years ago for these uneducated workers. Now you are using them as a political football.
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What a crock! Conservatives didn't tell American workers they were over paid...a global economy did. You liberals didn't even give those workers a fighting chance because you passed regulations that made the cost of doing business in America so prohibitively expensive that even people like Jeffrey Immeldt started shipping jobs to China! You're still doing it! Your party doesn't have a plan to create permanent jobs for blue collar Americans. You've recycled the same failed stimulus ideas that Nancy Pelosi promised would create hundreds of thousands of "shovel ready jobs"!
Gw bush doubled the debt and spent nothing on infrastructure for 8 years
We've collected gasoline taxes that were supposed to go towards fixing our bridges and roads all along, Sealy but those monies were diverted to help pay for the entitlements you liberals can't live without. So don't blame the state of our roads and bridges on conservatives.
And many of them didn't even go to school! My parents. Both worked 20 years dad at Ford mom was medical biller. They are worth $700k. How many people in this generation will have that when they retire?
But on a positive note corporate profits are thru the roof and CEO pay is up
When you find out that the American people are not willing to be the slaves for you Losertarians, that will be a great day, loser-bitch.A lot of that is still going on but it is more related to time. Most facilities and equipment have a shelf-life. Companies do not usually shut down to retool/renovate. They build new and move when done.
Yes I know, but the effects were not really reflected in the numbers. The economy boomed because of the dotcom bubble which had not yet popped. Such a once-a-century transformative thing as the internet would have made any economy look like all this outsourcing stuff was working great.Outsourcing began with Clinton. Factories ran overproduction to fill warehouses and then started to move in late 1990's. Overproduction bought time to build factories in Maquiladoras.I'm talking about GWB after 2000 when outsourcing became an almost fatal hemorrhage while personal debt went stratospheric. Bound to be some point where the economy blew up. You say Nafta was supposed to be fixed at some point? The period where it really started to hurt was not during Clinton, he had the dom-com boom to mask the negatives, Jobs went flat almost as soon as Bush took office and no one did a goddamned thing.Well That would have also been the job of Bush and his super-majority who did noting except attack organized labor in all it's forms. Don't you remember having the free trade fever? Lord knows republicans had a united front on that until even they heard the giant sucking sound.At the time it passed though there was supposed to be follow up deals to protect vulnerable industries that never materialized. It is part of the reason textiles disappeared from the South.
You make no sense. Bush was out of office when NAFTA was enacted and therefore he would have had no say in follow up agreements that never materialized.
You are a fucking idiot. The same policies that pushed the businesses out can reverse and bring them back in.Other than the fact the jobs are gone for good? Nothing. Trump nor any president can force a company to come back here to make things.
Oh but yes he will. Never talk defeat. That is what Wall Street wants. They want you to give up. No...he will.What's so bad about standing up for America and bringing jobs back?You are the one being hyper-partisan here. I am well aware of the part Clinton and the democrats played in setting up the house of cards and believe this: I do not hold them blameless. As I said earlier, Trump will be my reason for voting. I once said that I would never cast a vote for Clinton but you guys had to go and nominate someone so terribly horribly bad I will have to break my promise to myself. If for nothing else you guys suck for that.And Clinton support repeal of Glass-Stegal. You are a Democrat robot. Fuck the party. They fucked over me, you, and millions of others thinking we would be lemmings and vote for them every November. No sir. Fuck them.Oh yes, a good example is the Very pro-republican US chamber of commerce writing corporate law/regulation/tax bills that got passed almost verbatim and even holding seminars on how best to relocate to a country that allows corporate slavery. You think GE is not going to do what everyone else was doing in a mad dash to remain competitive? This is what you get when you insist on "business friendly" politicians, they are going to do what big business wants.So tell me how this works, Occupied...one of the biggest exporters of American jobs overseas was the CEO of General Electric! So guess who Barack Obama made his "Jobs Czar"? Then you progressives call it a GOP problem? Really? I mean REALLY!!!
Other than the fact the jobs are gone for good? Nothing. Trump nor any president can force a company to come back here to make things.
You have made that same post like 5 times in two days. Do you eat the same sandwich every day for years too?When you find out that the American people are not willing to be the slaves for you Losertarians, that will be a great day, loser-bitch.A lot of that is still going on but it is more related to time. Most facilities and equipment have a shelf-life. Companies do not usually shut down to retool/renovate. They build new and move when done.
They ate our lunch because our tax dollars rebuilt them after World War Two.Yes I know, but the effects were not really reflected in the numbers. The economy boomed because of the dotcom bubble which had not yet popped. Such a once-a-century transformative thing as the internet would have made any economy look like all this outsourcing stuff was working great.Outsourcing began with Clinton. Factories ran overproduction to fill warehouses and then started to move in late 1990's. Overproduction bought time to build factories in Maquiladoras.I'm talking about GWB after 2000 when outsourcing became an almost fatal hemorrhage while personal debt went stratospheric. Bound to be some point where the economy blew up. You say Nafta was supposed to be fixed at some point? The period where it really started to hurt was not during Clinton, he had the dom-com boom to mask the negatives, Jobs went flat almost as soon as Bush took office and no one did a goddamned thing.Well That would have also been the job of Bush and his super-majority who did noting except attack organized labor in all it's forms. Don't you remember having the free trade fever? Lord knows republicans had a united front on that until even they heard the giant sucking sound.
You make no sense. Bush was out of office when NAFTA was enacted and therefore he would have had no say in follow up agreements that never materialized.
But it may have been somewhat necessary to compete. Japan ate our lunch during the 80's because of their investments in the latest and greatest technologies. Old American looms just could not keep up with high tech textile equipment needing less workers but more investment.
Those jobs are now being done by robots in other countries. Those jobs no longer exist to bring back so it is the emptiest of promises. Jobs have to be made from scratch through innovation and investment in emerging technologies and upgrading infrastructure to increase efficiency.What's so bad about standing up for America and bringing jobs back?You are the one being hyper-partisan here. I am well aware of the part Clinton and the democrats played in setting up the house of cards and believe this: I do not hold them blameless. As I said earlier, Trump will be my reason for voting. I once said that I would never cast a vote for Clinton but you guys had to go and nominate someone so terribly horribly bad I will have to break my promise to myself. If for nothing else you guys suck for that.And Clinton support repeal of Glass-Stegal. You are a Democrat robot. Fuck the party. They fucked over me, you, and millions of others thinking we would be lemmings and vote for them every November. No sir. Fuck them.Oh yes, a good example is the Very pro-republican US chamber of commerce writing corporate law/regulation/tax bills that got passed almost verbatim and even holding seminars on how best to relocate to a country that allows corporate slavery. You think GE is not going to do what everyone else was doing in a mad dash to remain competitive? This is what you get when you insist on "business friendly" politicians, they are going to do what big business wants.Well That would have also been the job of Bush and his super-majority who did noting except attack organized labor in all it's forms. Don't you remember having the free trade fever? Lord knows republicans had a united front on that until even they heard the giant sucking sound.
So tell me how this works, Occupied...one of the biggest exporters of American jobs overseas was the CEO of General Electric! So guess who Barack Obama made his "Jobs Czar"? Then you progressives call it a GOP problem? Really? I mean REALLY!!!
They ate our lunch because our tax dollars rebuilt them after World War Two.Yes I know, but the effects were not really reflected in the numbers. The economy boomed because of the dotcom bubble which had not yet popped. Such a once-a-century transformative thing as the internet would have made any economy look like all this outsourcing stuff was working great.Outsourcing began with Clinton. Factories ran overproduction to fill warehouses and then started to move in late 1990's. Overproduction bought time to build factories in Maquiladoras.I'm talking about GWB after 2000 when outsourcing became an almost fatal hemorrhage while personal debt went stratospheric. Bound to be some point where the economy blew up. You say Nafta was supposed to be fixed at some point? The period where it really started to hurt was not during Clinton, he had the dom-com boom to mask the negatives, Jobs went flat almost as soon as Bush took office and no one did a goddamned thing.You make no sense. Bush was out of office when NAFTA was enacted and therefore he would have had no say in follow up agreements that never materialized.
But it may have been somewhat necessary to compete. Japan ate our lunch during the 80's because of their investments in the latest and greatest technologies. Old American looms just could not keep up with high tech textile equipment needing less workers but more investment.
A lot of that came from China becoming the world's main source of cheap cotton. Production naturally shifted to Asia. Not sure it would have been possible to compete with our depleted soil and expensive cotton.Yes I know, but the effects were not really reflected in the numbers. The economy boomed because of the dotcom bubble which had not yet popped. Such a once-a-century transformative thing as the internet would have made any economy look like all this outsourcing stuff was working great.Outsourcing began with Clinton. Factories ran overproduction to fill warehouses and then started to move in late 1990's. Overproduction bought time to build factories in Maquiladoras.I'm talking about GWB after 2000 when outsourcing became an almost fatal hemorrhage while personal debt went stratospheric. Bound to be some point where the economy blew up. You say Nafta was supposed to be fixed at some point? The period where it really started to hurt was not during Clinton, he had the dom-com boom to mask the negatives, Jobs went flat almost as soon as Bush took office and no one did a goddamned thing.Well That would have also been the job of Bush and his super-majority who did noting except attack organized labor in all it's forms. Don't you remember having the free trade fever? Lord knows republicans had a united front on that until even they heard the giant sucking sound.
You make no sense. Bush was out of office when NAFTA was enacted and therefore he would have had no say in follow up agreements that never materialized.
But it may have been somewhat necessary to compete. Japan ate our lunch during the 80's because of their investments in the latest and greatest technologies. Old American looms just could not keep up with high tech textile equipment needing less workers but more investment.
I just found one from 2012 where Romney wanted to give tax breaks to companies shipping jobs overseas.Why didn't they go back to school or start their own business'?We've had almost eight years of Barry...so tell me how much better off blue collar American workers are NOW!
That's the only advice you had for them 8 years ago when bush sent their jobs overseas.
Bush actually passed tax breaks for companies sending jobs overseas. I'm going to go dig up the facts.
You want me to give you the URL for Think Progress or The Huffington Post, Sealy?
A lot of that came from China becoming the world's main source of cheap cotton. Production naturally shifted to Asia. Not sure it would have been possible to compete with our depleted soil and expensive cotton.Yes I know, but the effects were not really reflected in the numbers. The economy boomed because of the dotcom bubble which had not yet popped. Such a once-a-century transformative thing as the internet would have made any economy look like all this outsourcing stuff was working great.Outsourcing began with Clinton. Factories ran overproduction to fill warehouses and then started to move in late 1990's. Overproduction bought time to build factories in Maquiladoras.I'm talking about GWB after 2000 when outsourcing became an almost fatal hemorrhage while personal debt went stratospheric. Bound to be some point where the economy blew up. You say Nafta was supposed to be fixed at some point? The period where it really started to hurt was not during Clinton, he had the dom-com boom to mask the negatives, Jobs went flat almost as soon as Bush took office and no one did a goddamned thing.You make no sense. Bush was out of office when NAFTA was enacted and therefore he would have had no say in follow up agreements that never materialized.
But it may have been somewhat necessary to compete. Japan ate our lunch during the 80's because of their investments in the latest and greatest technologies. Old American looms just could not keep up with high tech textile equipment needing less workers but more investment.
You are a liar and an idiot who hates American working class people.You have made that same post like 5 times in two days. Do you eat the same sandwich every day for years too?When you find out that the American people are not willing to be the slaves for you Losertarians, that will be a great day, loser-bitch.A lot of that is still going on but it is more related to time. Most facilities and equipment have a shelf-life. Companies do not usually shut down to retool/renovate. They build new and move when done.
I was infantry in military. You need boots on ground to take ground and hold it. Technology and firepower is a great thing...but not bottom line. I have also worked manufacturing. To say that automation can do every this a false statement.Those jobs are now being done by robots in other countries. Those jobs no longer exist to bring back so it is the emptiest of promises. Jobs have to be made from scratch through innovation and investment in emerging technologies and upgrading infrastructure to increase efficiency.What's so bad about standing up for America and bringing jobs back?You are the one being hyper-partisan here. I am well aware of the part Clinton and the democrats played in setting up the house of cards and believe this: I do not hold them blameless. As I said earlier, Trump will be my reason for voting. I once said that I would never cast a vote for Clinton but you guys had to go and nominate someone so terribly horribly bad I will have to break my promise to myself. If for nothing else you guys suck for that.And Clinton support repeal of Glass-Stegal. You are a Democrat robot. Fuck the party. They fucked over me, you, and millions of others thinking we would be lemmings and vote for them every November. No sir. Fuck them.Oh yes, a good example is the Very pro-republican US chamber of commerce writing corporate law/regulation/tax bills that got passed almost verbatim and even holding seminars on how best to relocate to a country that allows corporate slavery. You think GE is not going to do what everyone else was doing in a mad dash to remain competitive? This is what you get when you insist on "business friendly" politicians, they are going to do what big business wants.So tell me how this works, Occupied...one of the biggest exporters of American jobs overseas was the CEO of General Electric! So guess who Barack Obama made his "Jobs Czar"? Then you progressives call it a GOP problem? Really? I mean REALLY!!!
We still grow certain varieties that are useful for specialty fabrics but you would be right were it not a subsidized commodity.A lot of that came from China becoming the world's main source of cheap cotton. Production naturally shifted to Asia. Not sure it would have been possible to compete with our depleted soil and expensive cotton.Yes I know, but the effects were not really reflected in the numbers. The economy boomed because of the dotcom bubble which had not yet popped. Such a once-a-century transformative thing as the internet would have made any economy look like all this outsourcing stuff was working great.Outsourcing began with Clinton. Factories ran overproduction to fill warehouses and then started to move in late 1990's. Overproduction bought time to build factories in Maquiladoras.I'm talking about GWB after 2000 when outsourcing became an almost fatal hemorrhage while personal debt went stratospheric. Bound to be some point where the economy blew up. You say Nafta was supposed to be fixed at some point? The period where it really started to hurt was not during Clinton, he had the dom-com boom to mask the negatives, Jobs went flat almost as soon as Bush took office and no one did a goddamned thing.
But it may have been somewhat necessary to compete. Japan ate our lunch during the 80's because of their investments in the latest and greatest technologies. Old American looms just could not keep up with high tech textile equipment needing less workers but more investment.
Right now India is taking over cotton. Current supply doesn't meet current demand globally still, but India is adding acreage and increasing yields. Whatever is left of US cotton is functionally extinct.
Who believes it? The guy who was right 99% of the time about who would win which state over the last two presidential elections.
Who would win if the election were held right now: Clinton 82.2% chance, Trump 17.7%
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now
What do the latest polls say: Clinton 63.3% chance, Trump 36.7%
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
What does history tell us: Clinton 67.7% chance, Trump 32.3%
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#plus
You are a liar and an idiot who hates American working class people.You have made that same post like 5 times in two days. Do you eat the same sandwich every day for years too?When you find out that the American people are not willing to be the slaves for you Losertarians, that will be a great day, loser-bitch.A lot of that is still going on but it is more related to time. Most facilities and equipment have a shelf-life. Companies do not usually shut down to retool/renovate. They build new and move when done.
That way you think you can have your slave work force.
You said it yourself, but if you are backing off of any of that and want to walk it back, be my guest, racist pig.
how many billions of US dollars went to India through UN to help them do this?A lot of that came from China becoming the world's main source of cheap cotton. Production naturally shifted to Asia. Not sure it would have been possible to compete with our depleted soil and expensive cotton.Yes I know, but the effects were not really reflected in the numbers. The economy boomed because of the dotcom bubble which had not yet popped. Such a once-a-century transformative thing as the internet would have made any economy look like all this outsourcing stuff was working great.Outsourcing began with Clinton. Factories ran overproduction to fill warehouses and then started to move in late 1990's. Overproduction bought time to build factories in Maquiladoras.I'm talking about GWB after 2000 when outsourcing became an almost fatal hemorrhage while personal debt went stratospheric. Bound to be some point where the economy blew up. You say Nafta was supposed to be fixed at some point? The period where it really started to hurt was not during Clinton, he had the dom-com boom to mask the negatives, Jobs went flat almost as soon as Bush took office and no one did a goddamned thing.
But it may have been somewhat necessary to compete. Japan ate our lunch during the 80's because of their investments in the latest and greatest technologies. Old American looms just could not keep up with high tech textile equipment needing less workers but more investment.
Right now India is taking over cotton. Current supply doesn't meet current demand globally still, but India is adding acreage and increasing yields. Whatever is left of US cotton is functionally extinct.
You are a liar and an idiot who hates American working class people.You have made that same post like 5 times in two days. Do you eat the same sandwich every day for years too?When you find out that the American people are not willing to be the slaves for you Losertarians, that will be a great day, loser-bitch.A lot of that is still going on but it is more related to time. Most facilities and equipment have a shelf-life. Companies do not usually shut down to retool/renovate. They build new and move when done.
That way you think you can have your slave work force.
You said it yourself, but if you are backing off of any of that and want to walk it back, be my guest, racist pig.
So you still refuse to answer the questions?You are a liar and an idiot who hates American working class people.You have made that same post like 5 times in two days. Do you eat the same sandwich every day for years too?When you find out that the American people are not willing to be the slaves for you Losertarians, that will be a great day, loser-bitch.A lot of that is still going on but it is more related to time. Most facilities and equipment have a shelf-life. Companies do not usually shut down to retool/renovate. They build new and move when done.
That way you think you can have your slave work force.
You said it yourself, but if you are backing off of any of that and want to walk it back, be my guest, racist pig.
Well with the demonstration of your intellect, I am not hopeful you will ever be able to afford sliced cheese to go on your daily bologna sandwich, but maybe one day your Pick 3 number will come in for you.
