fuzzykitten99
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Originally posted by NewGuy
Raping and murdering isn't personal?
and I thought murdering another human was a crime? now it's called abortion.
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Originally posted by NewGuy
Raping and murdering isn't personal?
Originally posted by fuzzykitten99
and I thought murdering another human was a crime? now it's called abortion.
Originally posted by fuzzykitten99
and I thought murdering another human was a crime? now it's called abortion.
Originally posted by -=d=-
So the child isn't a victim in this? Your whole 'if it doesn't hurt ME, who am I to say they shouldn't do it' philosphy is a quick way to lead a society to distruction.
Originally posted by DKSuddeth
If a person is raped, i'm hurt. If a person is killed, i'm hurt. If a person is robbed, i'm hurt. Thats because that crime hurts society. The society is in danger from the perpetrator.
Do we blame a rape victim for falling into depression because of being raped? Should we blame the victim for dying because they were shot?
your philosophy statement just doesn't apply in this argument.
Originally posted by fuzzykitten99
Why not make lemonade out of lemons? Yes, the tragedy would be horrible, and emotionally difficult. But if you turned a tragedy and horrible experience into a blessing for another, isn't that what the liberals believe in? Helping and sacrificing for others, and doing good for others? Why not sacrifice a short 9 months of your life, to bring joy to another's, who wants to raise a child, but cannot biologically have one? Believe me, carrying a child for 9 months is NOT all that hard. Yes, sometimes it is, but it goes by so fast.
Originally posted by -=d=-
Of COURSE It does - We blame a victim of rape for killing her baby - yes. You are saying 'Well, it's THEIR RIGHT to kill their baby because of the trauma involved. It's not MY Place to tell them blah blah blah"
Originally posted by DKSuddeth
Thats all a very sweet, nice, and pleasant outlook on life.........unless you happen to be the victim.
Originally posted by DKSuddeth
lets blame the victim of rape for being raped as well then. we'll go back to the useless 'its your fault' methodology of the right.
Originally posted by fuzzykitten99
oh, i see. so you are saying that they have no ability to put a negative into a positive, by being selfless, and not taking their hurt and anger out on the child, who had no choice in it's conception? I thought you liberals always fought for the little guy...but apparently not as little as an unborn child, who in your eyes, does not matter to the world.
Originally posted by DKSuddeth
If a person is raped, i'm hurt. If a person is killed, i'm hurt. If a person is robbed, i'm hurt. Thats because that crime hurts society. The society is in danger from the perpetrator.
Do we blame a rape victim for falling into depression because of being raped? Should we blame the victim for dying because they were shot?
your philosophy statement just doesn't apply in this argument.
Originally posted by -=d=-
Your hopes of achieving 'Conservativism' are fading brother...hold on.
Originally posted by -=d=-
wha??? you aren't making sense now.
Here's what you are saying:
"Hi! I think it's not MY place to hold people accountable for killing their babies because of the circumstances surrounding the pregnancy - who am I to say they are doing the wrong thing? Live and let live"
Here's what I'm saying:
"People can't fix ONE bad problem (a rape) by murdering the offspring of the rape."
Originally posted by NewGuy
DK......If you are hurt when another is the victim, that DOES make these crimes of murder and rape personal, and therefore justify the said law in previous discussion.
Originally posted by -=d=-
Your hopes of achieving 'Conservativism' are fading brother...hold on.
Originally posted by DKSuddeth
are YOU hurt if your neighbor is raped?
are YOU hurt if the old couple down the street is robbed?
Originally posted by DKSuddeth
your inability to understand human emotion is evident. This is the flaw in the republican or conservative viewpoint of things. You refuse to acknowledge that people behave differently in all sorts of things. You have this 'utopian' view that we should all be the same, react the same, behave the same, talk the same, live the same, and think the same. This is illogical in the real world. This is where your inability to live in reality shows brightly.
As to your response, I have the ability to put a negative into a positive, but not in all things just as you don't. Nobody, and I mean nobody, can put everything negative into a positive. It's a human impossibility.
Originally posted by DKSuddeth
interesting how you achieved that out of something I didn't say. But here goes, yet again, I'm saying that to force people to deal with the consequences of actions that were not perpetrated by them, but forced upon them by an emotionally and physically traumatic event like rape, and then expect them to deal with the aftermath wholly and soundly is ludicrous. Its an expectation that cannot be accomplished by everyone, no matter how much you, or anyone else, tries to make it a positive (as if rape is positive)
and translation of this is 'we could care less if carrying the product of your rape for 9 months drives you completely insane and breaks you down. Let someone else adopt it then be on your merry little mental breakdown.'
Originally posted by DKSuddeth
If you don't know how you would feel, or how your wife or daughter would feel, then how can you say that her opinion and feelings are childish?