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Ray Rice Is having his life assaulted by NFL!

JimofPennsylvan

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What has happened to Ray Rice is a travesty of justice, it is patently unjust that he has received a lifetime suspension from the league. The assaultive behavior Ray Rice displayed in the Casino elevator was absolutely wrong and the National Football league should speak out on it and they did so with a two game suspension that probably would have cost Ray in excess of one hundred thousand dollars in salary.


The problem with our society on these domestic assault cases where there is a big media swirl around like this Ray Rice case and the Chris Brown case is it does not distinguish between cases where the perpetrator was acting out of character or to put it another way just made a mistake and cases where the perpetrator uses women like a punching bag in other words has a character problem in this area. For Ray Rice this isn't a hitting women character problem it is a problem where he lost full physical control of himself this could happen to the majority of men in America under certain circumstances. When you get past the fact Ray knocked out a women and one looks at the video carefully and with balance it is not that incriminating after Ray hit Janay the first time when they were in each others face he immediately backs up and Janay rushes him like she wants to beat his butt and then Ray gives her an upper cut and she falls to the ground this strike by Ray could fairly be characterized as reflexive an automatic defensive movement. This few moments of loss of control by Ray where no one was seriously permanently hurt should not end Ray's football career it is unfair and unjust.


The football players union should do something about the NFL's excessive punishment standard for domestic abuse. They should force the league to roll back the league's lifetime ban for one offense and make the limits be as long as no permanent severe disability has occurred to the victim: a maximum one year ban for the first offense, a maximum two year ban for the second offense and for third or more offenses a lifetime ban is permitted. Roger Goodell and the team owners are making a big mistake here with this one strike and your out standard because consider this Ray Rice is a mediocre player so his loss to the league likely won't change the future of a franchise and its team of players but eventually a super-star player is going to make a transgression in the area of domestic assault and the league because of this standard is going to be forced to end that player's career with a lifetime ban which will affect which team wins the Super-Bowl, and all those team members of the banned players team who don't get the championship will be paying a steep price with the stature and endorsements associated with a super bowl championship and the corresponding city and football fans for that team will also incur a big penalty with such a loss. Team Owners and Mr. Goodell here would benefit from opening up a dictionary and reading the definition of the word shortsighted!
 
"They should force the league to roll back the league's lifetime ban for one offense and make the limits be as long as no permanent severe disability has occurred to the victim: a maximum one year ban for the first offense, a maximum two year ban for the second offense and for third or more offenses a lifetime ban is permitted."

So what you are saying is that an NFL star SHOULD be able to beat the hell out of his girlfriend or wife, at least twice, and still play pro ball, making millions. Or rather, an NFL star should be able to beat the hell out of his g/f or wife and get caught twice , and still play pro ball.

No, junior. Sorry to disappoint, but we are done allowing these thugs to do as they please.
 
The bigger "thug" is Roger Goody-Goody.

He's the one routinely engaging in character assassinations of players like Jonathan Vilma and coaches like Sean Payton, and covering up lies that he has himself willingly promulgated upon NFL fans, and the public at large.

The only difference between Goody-Goody and the "thugs" subject to his jurisdiction is that he wears three-piece suits during the games.
 
He beat her down. If he lost control like that once he can do it again.

Society in general, and the NFL in particular, has no business rewarding that behavior. He should be behind bars, whether his wife presses charges or not.

Absolutely not. Government has no business in the private lives of its citizens. If the wife is OK with what happened, we don't need government sticking its nose and and saying otherwise, never mind judging and punishing.
 
The NFL is a private organization. They deal with members as they see fit. If Donald Sterling can lose an NBA team over something he said Ray Rice can be canned over someone he hit.
 
The NFL is a private organization. They deal with members as they see fit. If Donald Sterling can lose an NBA team over something he said Ray Rice can be canned over someone he hit.

I agree with you in principle, but I'm not the kind of guy who unilaterally disarms in the middle of a gun fight. If we're going to allow freedom of association, then let's do it, but we don't. I can't fire every women who works for me. I can't bar every gay person from my business. You get the idea.
 
He beat her down. If he lost control like that once he can do it again.

Society in general, and the NFL in particular, has no business rewarding that behavior. He should be behind bars, whether his wife presses charges or not.

Putting him in prison won't prevent him from losing control again.

If she did the same to me I might have reacted as he did.

But I have a clean criminal record.

The young man made a mistake.

Answer me this: Taking him out of his only profession and making him live as best he can with his non-football playing job skills is more likely or less likely to push him toward a life of crime?
 
Private life? Far from private. You become a player in the NFL, your life is now an open book. Anyone that doesn't see the travesty the original punishment amounted to, makes me question their own moral code. These guys are looked up to by kids and young adults, alike. They see this behavior, will little consequence, that is just enough to give them permission, in their less developed psych, to mirror the behavior. And who knows? By this becoming public it just may have saved this young woman's life. After that video, I doubt that he would get a second chance if he dares to try it again. And this is forcing him to get help for his problem, hopefully preventing it. And this will force this young woman to hopefully question why so many see it as so objectionable and she apparently doesn't. For all we know she grew up watching the same occur within relationships in her life. Now she is hearing it is not acceptable behavior.

There is also a young child in their relationship that needs to not be anywhere near such behavior. Watching her mother be abused, or even be abused herself as well, is not what this child deserves.

Am I sorry for them that they ended up with this hanging over their heads? You betcha, it is sad to see young men destroy their own lives, by not using their heads, rather than their hands.
 
Personal destruction is the modern-day equivalent of Roman-era gladiator fights to the death.

People love seeing other people destroyed. Good entertainment. It satisfies an urge deep within us.

All the Twitter Bozos and faux outrage are like the arena mob with their thumbs pointed downward.
 
He beat her down. If he lost control like that once he can do it again.

Society in general, and the NFL in particular, has no business rewarding that behavior. He should be behind bars, whether his wife presses charges or not.

Putting him in prison won't prevent him from losing control again.

If she did the same to me I might have reacted as he did.

But I have a clean criminal record.

The young man made a mistake.

Answer me this: Taking him out of his only profession and making him live as best he can with his non-football playing job skills is more likely or less likely to push him toward a life of crime?
It has been stated he can later request to be reinstated. If he shows he has truly changed his life, then just maybe he could be reinstated. And in the meantime, maybe he can train for a career that will sustained either now or if reinstated at a later date, for after his nfl career. As you know, football careers are relatively short and most must find a way to make a living after that is over. He could end up ahead of the game.
 
I'd just like to point out that Janay Rice is being victimized by exactly those who claim to be defending her! Her husband will be losing millions of dollars - some of which would have been sent her way.
 
I'd just like to point out that Janay Rice is being victimized by exactly those who claim to be defending her! Her husband will be losing millions of dollars - some of which would have been sent her way.
Nah, when she innevitably divorces this piece of shit wife beater, this will help win her extra money on the divorce settlement.
 
A character flaw? It was a crime, pure and simple. Six months in jail and anger management classes would help. As for women defending those that beat them, they do so because:
1. The husband is the bread winner and when their husband goes to jail, the income stops.
2. They think that after he apologizes and promises that he loves her and won't ever do it again, that he speaks the truth. What generally happens is that he does eventually do it again, and again.
That's why they have shelters in the cities for battered women.
Some of the battered women are eventually beaten to death by their husbands.
Most likely, Rice will eventually punch her again.
 
A character flaw? It was a crime, pure and simple. Six months in jail and anger management classes would help. As for women defending those that beat them, they do so because:
1. The husband is the bread winner and when their husband goes to jail, the income stops.
2. They think that after he apologizes and promises that he loves her and won't ever do it again, that he speaks the truth. What generally happens is that he does eventually do it again, and again.
That's why they have shelters in the cities for battered women.
Some of the battered women are eventually beaten to death by their husbands.
Most likely, Rice will eventually punch her again.

Men use physical strength to assault their wives and wives use emotional trauma to assault their husbands. Only one form of abuse gets punished though.

 
The victim (now his wife) is defending him.....If she doesn't care, why should we?
What confuses me is who has charged Ray with assault? The woman he is alleged to have assaulted married him shortly after the incident in the elevator. Did she say he assaulted her? If she says they were roughhouse playing and she slipped, fell, and was knocked out the worst that could come of it is a charge of disorderly conduct by both parties -- but only if the Casino chose to make that charge.

Did Ray sink his own boat by already admitting to too many individuals that he assaulted her? Even if he did it's not too late to withdraw that and for both to say it was all just playful misconduct. It really depends on what she says. No complaint, no charge.
 

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