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Tired of a President who bows to other potentates???
Check this out:
"Trump has chosen retired Marine Gen. James Mattis for secretary of defense
....James N. Mattis to be secretary of defense, according to people familiar with the decision, nominating a former senior military officer who led operations across the Middle East to run the Pentagon less than four years after he hung up his uniform."
Trump has chosen retired Marine Gen. James Mattis for secretary of defense
A bit of insight into who this man is:
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet."
One of the rules Maj. Gen. James Mattis gave his Marines to live by in Iraq, as quoted in Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq (2006) by Thomas E. Ricks; as excerpted in Armed Forces Journal (August 2006)
The enemies of America: beware.
So Assad should stay in power? How's McCain and the gop hawks with this stance?So Trump SHOULD go into Syria?Weakbama's reluctance to use our military effectively has tremendously damaged morale...MAD DOG WILL BRING ABOUT A REVOLUTION IN OUR ARMY'S MORALE!
only to destroy ISIS!
Trump could very well be worse. That's the concern. We need a consistent policy, which has been lacking ... really for 16 years.So Assad should stay in power? How's McCain and the gop hawks with this stance?So Trump SHOULD go into Syria?Weakbama's reluctance to use our military effectively has tremendously damaged morale...MAD DOG WILL BRING ABOUT A REVOLUTION IN OUR ARMY'S MORALE!
only to destroy ISIS!
the vaccum could be worse. the vaccuum could be worse. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORSE
2. Waterboarded????
Just about every college student has been, you dolt.
Umm, have you been to college?
Seems very unlikely on many counts, starting with obsessive thought patterns coupled with delusions.
Let me know when you're ready to compare educations.
Ah, so yes? You've been college?
How many times were you waterboarded?
The answer is ZERO, because you are obviously clueless about what it is and what it does, let alone how many college students it happens to.
Your education to follow....pay attention.
Fuck you and your dodge town.
Answer the question: Where you waterboarded in college or anywhere else?
Answer: NO.
So stfu about how all the college kids get waterboarded and what a walk in the park it is.
I'd be pleased with three-fifths the way between the recklessness of G.W. Bush and the appeasement of Obama.
Trump could very well be worse. That's the concern. We need a consistent policy, which has been lacking ... really for 16 years.So Assad should stay in power? How's McCain and the gop hawks with this stance?So Trump SHOULD go into Syria?Weakbama's reluctance to use our military effectively has tremendously damaged morale...MAD DOG WILL BRING ABOUT A REVOLUTION IN OUR ARMY'S MORALE!
only to destroy ISIS!
the vaccum could be worse. the vaccuum could be worse. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORSE
I don't know about Mad Dog, but the Wandering General may have some good input about what we should consider an existential threat that requires us to send troops into combat ... and even what types of govts we should support.
I agree with you, but I don't think it's possible to argue with someone living on another plane of existence.Umm, have you been to college?
Seems very unlikely on many counts, starting with obsessive thought patterns coupled with delusions.
Let me know when you're ready to compare educations.
Ah, so yes? You've been college?
How many times were you waterboarded?
The answer is ZERO, because you are obviously clueless about what it is and what it does, let alone how many college students it happens to.
Your education to follow....pay attention.
Fuck you and your dodge town.
Answer the question: Where you waterboarded in college or anywhere else?
Answer: NO.
So stfu about how all the college kids get waterboarded and what a walk in the park it is.
Tired of a President who bows to other potentates???
Check this out:
"Trump has chosen retired Marine Gen. James Mattis for secretary of defense
....James N. Mattis to be secretary of defense, according to people familiar with the decision, nominating a former senior military officer who led operations across the Middle East to run the Pentagon less than four years after he hung up his uniform."
Trump has chosen retired Marine Gen. James Mattis for secretary of defense
A bit of insight into who this man is:
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet."
One of the rules Maj. Gen. James Mattis gave his Marines to live by in Iraq, as quoted in Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq (2006) by Thomas E. Ricks; as excerpted in Armed Forces Journal (August 2006)
The enemies of America: beware.
It really worked out well for Bush.
Bullies and right wingers usually have so much in common.
Bullies are usually stupid.
Bullies try to push others around but are actually cowards.
Bullies think negotiation is a sign of weakness.
Bullies, if they can, will send others to take the fall.
Bullies, more often than not, tend to be losers.
Tired of a President who bows to other potentates???
Check this out:
"Trump has chosen retired Marine Gen. James Mattis for secretary of defense
....James N. Mattis to be secretary of defense, according to people familiar with the decision, nominating a former senior military officer who led operations across the Middle East to run the Pentagon less than four years after he hung up his uniform."
Trump has chosen retired Marine Gen. James Mattis for secretary of defense
A bit of insight into who this man is:
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet."
One of the rules Maj. Gen. James Mattis gave his Marines to live by in Iraq, as quoted in Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq (2006) by Thomas E. Ricks; as excerpted in Armed Forces Journal (August 2006)
The enemies of America: beware.
It really worked out well for Bush.
Bullies and right wingers usually have so much in common.
Bullies are usually stupid.
Bullies try to push others around but are actually cowards.
Bullies think negotiation is a sign of weakness.
Bullies, if they can, will send others to take the fall.
Bullies, more often than not, tend to be losers.
Pretty vapid post, deanie.
You really have to do better than this.
Tired of a President who bows to other potentates???
Check this out:
"Trump has chosen retired Marine Gen. James Mattis for secretary of defense
....James N. Mattis to be secretary of defense, according to people familiar with the decision, nominating a former senior military officer who led operations across the Middle East to run the Pentagon less than four years after he hung up his uniform."
Trump has chosen retired Marine Gen. James Mattis for secretary of defense
A bit of insight into who this man is:
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet."
One of the rules Maj. Gen. James Mattis gave his Marines to live by in Iraq, as quoted in Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq (2006) by Thomas E. Ricks; as excerpted in Armed Forces Journal (August 2006)
The enemies of America: beware.
It really worked out well for Bush.
Bullies and right wingers usually have so much in common.
Bullies are usually stupid.
Bullies try to push others around but are actually cowards.
Bullies think negotiation is a sign of weakness.
Bullies, if they can, will send others to take the fall.
Bullies, more often than not, tend to be losers.
Pretty vapid post, deanie.
You really have to do better than this.
Rdean pretty much nailed it. Trump is both a bully and a loser, thin skinned and always looking to "get even".
You don't need to "get even" when you're winning. You're already ahead. Only people who are losers and can't keep up need to "get even". Trump is getting even with New Yorkers by making them pay for security to keep his family in NY.
That's your thin skinned Trumpenfuhrer. Always trying to prove to the world he's not a loser.
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Tired of a President who bows to other potentates???
Check this out:
"Trump has chosen retired Marine Gen. James Mattis for secretary of defense
....James N. Mattis to be secretary of defense, according to people familiar with the decision, nominating a former senior military officer who led operations across the Middle East to run the Pentagon less than four years after he hung up his uniform."
Trump has chosen retired Marine Gen. James Mattis for secretary of defense
A bit of insight into who this man is:
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet."
One of the rules Maj. Gen. James Mattis gave his Marines to live by in Iraq, as quoted in Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq (2006) by Thomas E. Ricks; as excerpted in Armed Forces Journal (August 2006)
The enemies of America: beware.
It really worked out well for Bush.
Bullies and right wingers usually have so much in common.
Bullies are usually stupid.
Bullies try to push others around but are actually cowards.
Bullies think negotiation is a sign of weakness.
Bullies, if they can, will send others to take the fall.
Bullies, more often than not, tend to be losers.
Pretty vapid post, deanie.
You really have to do better than this.
Rdean pretty much nailed it. Trump is both a bully and a loser, thin skinned and always looking to "get even".
You don't need to "get even" when you're winning. You're already ahead. Only people who are losers and can't keep up need to "get even". Trump is getting even with New Yorkers by making them pay for security to keep his family in NY.
That's your thin skinned Trumpenfuhrer. Always trying to prove to the world he's not a loser.
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Can't even answer a simple question. What a lame ass lightweight.
You've got no facts, no game, and no intellect.
Remind me.....who did you claim would be the final Republican?????
Actually, I’m proud of you!
Not only are you a fool, but you announce it every time you post that avi!!!
Except for the fact that Trump didn't win. Hillary beat him by 2% and 2.5 million votes and counting...
Let's examine the vote....
1. "Officially, Clinton has beaten Trump in the popular vote by approximately 2.5 million."
If you count Illegal aliens and dead folks.
How many of the 30 million illegal aliens voted?
Any?
How many?
2. "Be careful about sources."
How's this....LA Times:
7. "If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.... they will be registered as having no party preference. " Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two
Wanna deny this:
6. "12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally" 12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally - Illegal Immigration - ProCon.org
How about disqualifying this guy...
3. "Clinton has beaten Trump in the popular vote by approximately 2.5 million."
Yup....but not if you only count legal voters.
"Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama."
Now....if 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted last time
....and now
a. their icon, Obama, told them to vote and not be concerned that there would be any penalty (as per the video)
and...
b. the central issue in Trump's campaign was throwing them out of the nation that they invaded....
....ya' think maybe 13.2%....or 17.6%.....or more of 'em voted??????
What would logic dictate?
They voted?
You betcha'!!!!!!!
If any illegal aliens did vote (which I doubt), it doesn't make up for all of the Democrats who were prevented from voting due to voter suppression. There were 868 fewer voting locations in 2016 than there were in 2012, overwhelmingly in Democratic precincts. Why? Because Repug election officials wanted to create long lines, so that Democratic voters would go home without voting.
There Are 868 Fewer Places to Vote in 2016 Because the Supreme Court Gutted the Voting Rights Act
So you lose, lightweight. Hillary Clinton won by over 2.6 million votes and by over 2%. This election has been stolen from her.
"If any illegal aliens did vote (which I doubt),....
OMG!!!!
As if your avi didn't prove you enough of a dunce....his one is icing on the cake!
.....it's gilding the lily.
Maybe you could change that foot-in-your-mouth avi to "Lily."
Remind me.....who did you claim would be the final Republican?????
Actually, I’m proud of you!
Not only are you a fool, but you announce it every time you post that avi!!!
Except for the fact that Trump didn't win. Hillary beat him by 2% and 2.5 million votes and counting...
Let's examine the vote....
1. "Officially, Clinton has beaten Trump in the popular vote by approximately 2.5 million."
If you count Illegal aliens and dead folks.
How many of the 30 million illegal aliens voted?
Any?
How many?
2. "Be careful about sources."
How's this....LA Times:
7. "If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.... they will be registered as having no party preference. " Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two
Wanna deny this:
6. "12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally" 12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally - Illegal Immigration - ProCon.org
How about disqualifying this guy...
3. "Clinton has beaten Trump in the popular vote by approximately 2.5 million."
Yup....but not if you only count legal voters.
"Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama."
Now....if 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted last time
....and now
a. their icon, Obama, told them to vote and not be concerned that there would be any penalty (as per the video)
and...
b. the central issue in Trump's campaign was throwing them out of the nation that they invaded....
....ya' think maybe 13.2%....or 17.6%.....or more of 'em voted??????
What would logic dictate?
They voted?
You betcha'!!!!!!!
If any illegal aliens did vote (which I doubt), it doesn't make up for all of the Democrats who were prevented from voting due to voter suppression. There were 868 fewer voting locations in 2016 than there were in 2012, overwhelmingly in Democratic precincts. Why? Because Repug election officials wanted to create long lines, so that Democratic voters would go home without voting.
There Are 868 Fewer Places to Vote in 2016 Because the Supreme Court Gutted the Voting Rights Act
So you lose, lightweight. Hillary Clinton won by over 2.6 million votes and by over 2%. This election has been stolen from her.
"If any illegal aliens did vote (which I doubt),....
OMG!!!!
As if your avi didn't prove you enough of a dunce....his one is icing on the cake!
.....it's gilding the lily.
Maybe you could change that foot-in-your-mouth avi to "Lily."
You don't have any evidence of illegal aliens voting, you stupid bitch. Right-wing conspiracy websites don't count.
On the other hand, there is plenty of evidence of Repug voter suppression tactics, as my previous post indicated. Instead of winning by 2.6 million votes, Hillary probably would have won by 5 million votes if it wasn't for Repug voter suppression tactics.
Clinton crushed sorry ass Trump by 2.6 million votes and counting. A 2% point lead. Hillary Clinton won this election. Period.
A "wave" of attacks?I'd be pleased with three-fifths the way between the recklessness of G.W. Bush and the appeasement of Obama.
....the recklessness of G.W. Bush..."
This might suggest a course of reevaluation:
"The man who stood in the midst of the rubble at the World Trade Center site, and announced with bullhorn in hand to our enemies that “the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon,” prevented a second 9/11.
How do we know that President Bush prevented a second attack? 9/11 mastermind, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, himself has said so.
In a new memoir, James E. Mitchell describes speaking with Mohammed about 9/11, in which the al Qaeda terrorist states unequivocally that he was not able to “launch a second wave of attacks” because of the “ferocity and swiftness of George W. Bush’s response.”
George W. Bush Was RIGHT!
A "wave" of attacks?I'd be pleased with three-fifths the way between the recklessness of G.W. Bush and the appeasement of Obama.
....the recklessness of G.W. Bush..."
This might suggest a course of reevaluation:
"The man who stood in the midst of the rubble at the World Trade Center site, and announced with bullhorn in hand to our enemies that “the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon,” prevented a second 9/11.
How do we know that President Bush prevented a second attack? 9/11 mastermind, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, himself has said so.
In a new memoir, James E. Mitchell describes speaking with Mohammed about 9/11, in which the al Qaeda terrorist states unequivocally that he was not able to “launch a second wave of attacks” because of the “ferocity and swiftness of George W. Bush’s response.”
George W. Bush Was RIGHT!
A "wave"?
Really?
It was a dozen guys with boxcutters who took advantage of a situation Bush was warned about and did nothing.
A "wave"????
Really?
"Waterboarding is torture, and for you to equate it to a beer chug is fucking comical."
But one of your masters said it isn't.
1. [Rep. Dan] Lungren [(R., CA) and the state's former attorney general] then switched gears to a line of questioning aimed at clarifying the Obama Justice Department’s definition of torture. In one of the rare times he gave a straight answer, Holder stated at the hearing that in his view waterboarding is torture. Lundgren asked if it was the Justice Department’s position that Navy SEALS subjected to waterboarding as part of their training were being tortured.
Holder: No, it’s not torture in the legal sense because you’re not doing it with the intention of harming these people physically or mentally, all we’re trying to do is train them —
Lungren: So it’s the question of intent?
http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=117666&styleid=2
2. Originally Posted by Holder's Justice Department
[T]orture is defined as “an extreme form of cruel and inhuman treatment and does not include lesser forms of cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment. . . . ” 8 C.F.R. § 1208.18(a)(2). Moreover, as has been explained by the Third Circuit, CAT requires “a showing of specific intent before the Court can make a finding that a petitioner will be tortured.” Pierre v. Attorney General, 528 F.3d 180, 189 (3d Cir. 2008) (en banc); see 8 C.F.R. § 1208.18(a)(5) (requiring that the act “be specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering”); Auguste v. Ridge, 395 F.3d 123, 139 (3d Cir. 2005) (“This is a ‘specific intent’ requirement and not a ‘general intent’ requirement” [citations omitted.] An applicant for CAT protection therefore must establish that “his prospective torturer will have the motive or purpose” to torture him. Pierre, 528 F.3d at 189; Auguste, 395 F.3d at 153-54 (“The mere fact that the Haitian authorities have knowledge that severe pain and suffering may result by placing detainees in these conditions does not support a finding that the Haitian authorities intend to inflict severe pain and suffering. The difference goes to the heart of the distinction between general and specific intent.”) . . . .
Holder on Waterboarding Proving It's Not Torture While Insisting It Is
http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...partments-torture-hypocrisy/andrew-c-mccarthy
So you must be one of their drones not smart enough to keep up with the propaganda.
And...clearly, as both enhanced technique of waterboarding and the college prank of chugalug both have exactly the same 20-40 second deprivation of oxygen.....
...either one is torture,or neither are.
QED....you're simply a robot of the Left.
True?
Another loaded piece of crap. My masters? I don't have a master and Eric Holder was a complete douche. Either you are an idiot willfully or you have some kind of mental defect, which is it? Beer chugging and waterboarding are NOT the same. One of the major differences, that you can't seem to fucking grasp, is one is done willfully and a person can stop, the other isn't.
You see how that works rightard?
Did you vote for Obama?
Then you voted for those he put in charge of you, hence, Holder, your master.
"Beer chugging and waterboarding are NOT the same. One of the major differences, that you can't seem to fucking grasp, is one is done willfully and a person can stop, the other isn't."
So you agree that there is no physiological differentiation?
Excellent.
So, are they both torture, or are neither?
No I didn't vote for Obama twit. Quit assuming.
And no I didn't agree they have no physiological difference... but to ignore the idea that one is voluntary and can be stopped at any time and the other is not, is a huge fundamental flaw in your argument. Of course you are too righty brainwashed to understand that.
Hell some people like to be chained up and beaten... does that mean if I chained you up and beat you that isn't against the law? Do you NOT understand the difference?
1. "...one is voluntary and can be stopped at any time and the other is not..."
Wrong again.
Waterboarding, when used to train our soldiers, cannot be stopped at any time.
2. As you realized, there is no physiological difference between waterboarding and chugalug.
3. And, as a great deal of significant intelligence was gained by enhanced interrogation, it is recognized as a defense of the American people.
4. I only deal in facts and truth.
That's why I'm never wrong.
Let's summarize:
Waterboarding is considered by many on the left to be torture only because it occurred during the hated Bush administration.
Had it occurred during the Obama administration it would be lauded as an "effective, non-lethal, humane information gathering technique."
5. Wasn't it fun proving that you have all the discrimination ability of Don Quixote?
You didn't understand that any more than you understand waterboarding, did you.
You can ask yourself question that you can answer. Congrats! I'll reiterate, if you can understand that that word means... you are the dumbest poster on this forum.
I don't care what you think you know. But professionals have said numerous times, and even the new Secretary of Defense agrees, torturing people for information is worthless.
'I've never found it to be useful.' He said, 'I've always found, give me a pack of cigarettes and a couple of beers and I do better with that than I do with torture.'"
Donald Trump 'surprised' by Mattis waterboarding comments - CNNPolitics.com
But you go right ahead and keep thinking you are right all the time. You are good at playing D&D... that is dumb and delusional.
It was a dozen guys with boxcutters who took advantage of a situation Bush was warned about and did nothing.
A "wave"????
Really?
