Refute my arguement: God hates Christians and/or black people

[Delta4Embassy]

The Charlston shooter murdered 9 black Christians IN their church.

The white woman who reported Roof (the shooter) to police was white and claimed it was divine intervention that put her in the right place at the right time.

God could put the white woman where she needed to be to catch the bad guy, but not be bothered to save his own worshippers.

- Either God doesn't exist (most likely.)

- God doesn't care much for Christians (if the Jewish god exists, then Christianity is no different than any pagan religion and so not being Judaism, not under His protection.)

- God hates black people (making a white woman a hero, but by letting 9 black people die.)

- The white shooter was apprehended alive (saved?)


With all the coverage about this yesterday and today, a lot of religious mumbo-jumbo is being mentioned but no one's saying the obvious. If God exists, why let 9 black people die, make 1 white woman a hero, and spare the bad guy who's also white? Unless God doesn't care about Christians, or doesn't care about black people.

 

[amrchaos]

The Charlston shooter murdered 9 black Christians IN their church.

The white woman who reported Roof (the shooter) to police was white and claimed it was divine intervention that put her in the right place at the right time.

God could put the white woman where she needed to be to catch the bad guy, but not be bothered to save his own worshippers.

- Either God doesn't exist (most likely.)

- God doesn't care much for Christians (if the Jewish god exists, then Christianity is no different than any pagan religion and so not being Judaism, not under His protection.)

- God hates black people (making a white woman a hero, but by letting 9 black people die.)

- The white shooter was apprehended alive (saved?)


With all the coverage about this yesterday and today, a lot of religious mumbo-jumbo is being mentioned but no one's saying the obvious. If God exists, why let 9 black people die, make 1 white woman a hero, and spare the bad guy who's also white? Unless God doesn't care about Christians, or doesn't care about black people.

There is also the possibility that the woman assumed God placed her there or the possibility that those black people provoked the shooter or the black people were practicing the wrong religion or.....

Oh come on Delta, I can come up with all types of assumptions and not one may apply(or a combination of different possibilities could)

Let me know when God gives an announcement like in the NT.

 

[Liffy]

The Charlston shooter murdered 9 black Christians IN their church.

The white woman who reported Roof (the shooter) to police was white and claimed it was divine intervention that put her in the right place at the right time.

God could put the white woman where she needed to be to catch the bad guy, but not be bothered to save his own worshippers.

- Either God doesn't exist (most likely.)

- God doesn't care much for Christians (if the Jewish god exists, then Christianity is no different than any pagan religion and so not being Judaism, not under His protection.)

- God hates black people (making a white woman a hero, but by letting 9 black people die.)

- The white shooter was apprehended alive (saved?)


With all the coverage about this yesterday and today, a lot of religious mumbo-jumbo is being mentioned but no one's saying the obvious. If God exists, why let 9 black people die, make 1 white woman a hero, and spare the bad guy who's also white? Unless God doesn't care about Christians, or doesn't care about black people.

The Charlston shooter murdered 9 black Christians IN their church.

The white woman who reported Roof (the shooter) to police was white and claimed it was divine intervention that put her in the right place at the right time.

God could put the white woman where she needed to be to catch the bad guy, but not be bothered to save his own worshippers.

- Either God doesn't exist (most likely.)

- God doesn't care much for Christians (if the Jewish god exists, then Christianity is no different than any pagan religion and so not being Judaism, not under His protection.)

- God hates black people (making a white woman a hero, but by letting 9 black people die.)

- The white shooter was apprehended alive (saved?)


With all the coverage about this yesterday and today, a lot of religious mumbo-jumbo is being mentioned but no one's saying the obvious. If God exists, why let 9 black people die, make 1 white woman a hero, and spare the bad guy who's also white? Unless God doesn't care about Christians, or doesn't care about black people.

God exists and is the devil. That's why God let all this happen. The people who were all like "God was working through is to capture him!" I gotta ask why God let it all happen in the first place. I'll tell you why either God is the devil or abandoned us! Maybe both

 

[The Irish Ram]

Again, this is earth. The rain falls on the just and the unjust. What God did was whisk them to Heaven before their bodies hit the floor. Because He is a loving Father.

 

[The Irish Ram]

The Charlston shooter murdered 9 black Christians IN their church.

The white woman who reported Roof (the shooter) to police was white and claimed it was divine intervention that put her in the right place at the right time.

God could put the white woman where she needed to be to catch the bad guy, but not be bothered to save his own worshippers.

- Either God doesn't exist (most likely.)

- God doesn't care much for Christians (if the Jewish god exists, then Christianity is no different than any pagan religion and so not being Judaism, not under His protection.)

- God hates black people (making a white woman a hero, but by letting 9 black people die.)

- The white shooter was apprehended alive (saved?)


With all the coverage about this yesterday and today, a lot of religious mumbo-jumbo is being mentioned but no one's saying the obvious. If God exists, why let 9 black people die, make 1 white woman a hero, and spare the bad guy who's also white? Unless God doesn't care about Christians, or doesn't care about black people.

The Charlston shooter murdered 9 black Christians IN their church.

The white woman who reported Roof (the shooter) to police was white and claimed it was divine intervention that put her in the right place at the right time.

God could put the white woman where she needed to be to catch the bad guy, but not be bothered to save his own worshippers.

- Either God doesn't exist (most likely.)

- God doesn't care much for Christians (if the Jewish god exists, then Christianity is no different than any pagan religion and so not being Judaism, not under His protection.)

- God hates black people (making a white woman a hero, but by letting 9 black people die.)

- The white shooter was apprehended alive (saved?)


With all the coverage about this yesterday and today, a lot of religious mumbo-jumbo is being mentioned but no one's saying the obvious. If God exists, why let 9 black people die, make 1 white woman a hero, and spare the bad guy who's also white? Unless God doesn't care about Christians, or doesn't care about black people.

God exists and is the devil. That's why God let all this happen. The people who were all like "God was working through is to capture him!" I gotta ask why God let it all happen in the first place. I'll tell you why either God is the devil or abandoned us! Maybe both

God is no more Satan than I am a bird. What a preposterous train of thought. This is Satan's domain for a time. He stole the position from Adam. Christ will be taking possession back soon. Until then, bad things happen here. The onus is on Satan, not God. Satan may kill the body, but the important part, our eternal souls, is what he is after, and what God prevents him from obtaining. Those people are fine and resting in God's arms as we speak. They will be some of the saints returning with Christ to defeat Satan.

You put importance on this life, that God knows is nothing more than a vapor in time of our eternal lives. You see the present. God sees the future, and those 9 people have a very bright future.

 

[Liffy]

The Charlston shooter murdered 9 black Christians IN their church.

The white woman who reported Roof (the shooter) to police was white and claimed it was divine intervention that put her in the right place at the right time.

God could put the white woman where she needed to be to catch the bad guy, but not be bothered to save his own worshippers.

- Either God doesn't exist (most likely.)

- God doesn't care much for Christians (if the Jewish god exists, then Christianity is no different than any pagan religion and so not being Judaism, not under His protection.)

- God hates black people (making a white woman a hero, but by letting 9 black people die.)

- The white shooter was apprehended alive (saved?)


With all the coverage about this yesterday and today, a lot of religious mumbo-jumbo is being mentioned but no one's saying the obvious. If God exists, why let 9 black people die, make 1 white woman a hero, and spare the bad guy who's also white? Unless God doesn't care about Christians, or doesn't care about black people.

The Charlston shooter murdered 9 black Christians IN their church.

The white woman who reported Roof (the shooter) to police was white and claimed it was divine intervention that put her in the right place at the right time.

God could put the white woman where she needed to be to catch the bad guy, but not be bothered to save his own worshippers.

- Either God doesn't exist (most likely.)

- God doesn't care much for Christians (if the Jewish god exists, then Christianity is no different than any pagan religion and so not being Judaism, not under His protection.)

- God hates black people (making a white woman a hero, but by letting 9 black people die.)

- The white shooter was apprehended alive (saved?)


With all the coverage about this yesterday and today, a lot of religious mumbo-jumbo is being mentioned but no one's saying the obvious. If God exists, why let 9 black people die, make 1 white woman a hero, and spare the bad guy who's also white? Unless God doesn't care about Christians, or doesn't care about black people.

God exists and is the devil. That's why God let all this happen. The people who were all like "God was working through is to capture him!" I gotta ask why God let it all happen in the first place. I'll tell you why either God is the devil or abandoned us! Maybe both

God is no more Satan than I am a bird. What a preposterous train of thought. This is Satan's domain for a time. He stole the position from Adam. Christ will be taking possession back soon. Until then, bad things happen here. The onus is on Satan, not God. Satan may kill the body, but the important part, our eternal souls, is what he is after, and what God prevents him from obtaining. Those people are fine and resting in God's arms as we speak. They will be some of the saints returning with Christ to defeat Satan.

You put importance on this life, that God knows is nothing more than a vapor in time of our eternal lives. You see the present. God sees the future, and those 9 people have a very bright future.

Maybe you missed my point. God abandoned us. Anyway if you believe in revelations they aren't in gods arms. They're fucking dead. The resurrection happens when Jesus comes. You don't even understand your own fucking scripture.

 

[BlackFlag]

Again, this is earth. The rain falls on the just and the unjust. What God did was whisk them to Heaven before their bodies hit the floor. Because He is a loving Father.

Nah they will reincarnate into something else, depending on how they lived their lives.

 

[irosie91]

Delta-dawn and company------we are in the
GARDEN OF EDEN-------and live with the curse of the apple.>>>> FREE CHOICE----
all of us are free to choose what we do
despite the divine laws of THERMODYNAMICS-----and we are subjected to what the other guy does and
even to free falling apples

 

[The Irish Ram]

The Charlston shooter murdered 9 black Christians IN their church.

The white woman who reported Roof (the shooter) to police was white and claimed it was divine intervention that put her in the right place at the right time.

God could put the white woman where she needed to be to catch the bad guy, but not be bothered to save his own worshippers.

- Either God doesn't exist (most likely.)

- God doesn't care much for Christians (if the Jewish god exists, then Christianity is no different than any pagan religion and so not being Judaism, not under His protection.)

- God hates black people (making a white woman a hero, but by letting 9 black people die.)

- The white shooter was apprehended alive (saved?)


With all the coverage about this yesterday and today, a lot of religious mumbo-jumbo is being mentioned but no one's saying the obvious. If God exists, why let 9 black people die, make 1 white woman a hero, and spare the bad guy who's also white? Unless God doesn't care about Christians, or doesn't care about black people.

The Charlston shooter murdered 9 black Christians IN their church.

The white woman who reported Roof (the shooter) to police was white and claimed it was divine intervention that put her in the right place at the right time.

God could put the white woman where she needed to be to catch the bad guy, but not be bothered to save his own worshippers.

- Either God doesn't exist (most likely.)

- God doesn't care much for Christians (if the Jewish god exists, then Christianity is no different than any pagan religion and so not being Judaism, not under His protection.)

- God hates black people (making a white woman a hero, but by letting 9 black people die.)

- The white shooter was apprehended alive (saved?)


With all the coverage about this yesterday and today, a lot of religious mumbo-jumbo is being mentioned but no one's saying the obvious. If God exists, why let 9 black people die, make 1 white woman a hero, and spare the bad guy who's also white? Unless God doesn't care about Christians, or doesn't care about black people.

God exists and is the devil. That's why God let all this happen. The people who were all like "God was working through is to capture him!" I gotta ask why God let it all happen in the first place. I'll tell you why either God is the devil or abandoned us! Maybe both

God is no more Satan than I am a bird. What a preposterous train of thought. This is Satan's domain for a time. He stole the position from Adam. Christ will be taking possession back soon. Until then, bad things happen here. The onus is on Satan, not God. Satan may kill the body, but the important part, our eternal souls, is what he is after, and what God prevents him from obtaining. Those people are fine and resting in God's arms as we speak. They will be some of the saints returning with Christ to defeat Satan.

You put importance on this life, that God knows is nothing more than a vapor in time of our eternal lives. You see the present. God sees the future, and those 9 people have a very bright future.

Maybe you missed my point. God abandoned us. Anyway if you believe in revelations they aren't in gods arms. They're fucking dead. The resurrection happens when Jesus comes. You don't even understand your own fucking scripture.

Absent from the body is present with the Lord. I can believe you, or Paul.
I understand it a lot better than you seem to. The rapture happens before the tribulation. Christ never touches earth when he comes in the clouds to gather His bride. Not much later, He touches down on the Mt. of Olives with those he has gathered, to end the battle at Har Megido, and remains here, in Jerusalem forever.
Hope that helps your understanding.

You abandoned God. God never abandons His own.

 

[Liffy]

The Charlston shooter murdered 9 black Christians IN their church.

The white woman who reported Roof (the shooter) to police was white and claimed it was divine intervention that put her in the right place at the right time.

God could put the white woman where she needed to be to catch the bad guy, but not be bothered to save his own worshippers.

- Either God doesn't exist (most likely.)

- God doesn't care much for Christians (if the Jewish god exists, then Christianity is no different than any pagan religion and so not being Judaism, not under His protection.)

- God hates black people (making a white woman a hero, but by letting 9 black people die.)

- The white shooter was apprehended alive (saved?)


With all the coverage about this yesterday and today, a lot of religious mumbo-jumbo is being mentioned but no one's saying the obvious. If God exists, why let 9 black people die, make 1 white woman a hero, and spare the bad guy who's also white? Unless God doesn't care about Christians, or doesn't care about black people.

The Charlston shooter murdered 9 black Christians IN their church.

The white woman who reported Roof (the shooter) to police was white and claimed it was divine intervention that put her in the right place at the right time.

God could put the white woman where she needed to be to catch the bad guy, but not be bothered to save his own worshippers.

- Either God doesn't exist (most likely.)

- God doesn't care much for Christians (if the Jewish god exists, then Christianity is no different than any pagan religion and so not being Judaism, not under His protection.)

- God hates black people (making a white woman a hero, but by letting 9 black people die.)

- The white shooter was apprehended alive (saved?)


With all the coverage about this yesterday and today, a lot of religious mumbo-jumbo is being mentioned but no one's saying the obvious. If God exists, why let 9 black people die, make 1 white woman a hero, and spare the bad guy who's also white? Unless God doesn't care about Christians, or doesn't care about black people.

God exists and is the devil. That's why God let all this happen. The people who were all like "God was working through is to capture him!" I gotta ask why God let it all happen in the first place. I'll tell you why either God is the devil or abandoned us! Maybe both

God is no more Satan than I am a bird. What a preposterous train of thought. This is Satan's domain for a time. He stole the position from Adam. Christ will be taking possession back soon. Until then, bad things happen here. The onus is on Satan, not God. Satan may kill the body, but the important part, our eternal souls, is what he is after, and what God prevents him from obtaining. Those people are fine and resting in God's arms as we speak. They will be some of the saints returning with Christ to defeat Satan.

You put importance on this life, that God knows is nothing more than a vapor in time of our eternal lives. You see the present. God sees the future, and those 9 people have a very bright future.

Maybe you missed my point. God abandoned us. Anyway if you believe in revelations they aren't in gods arms. They're fucking dead. The resurrection happens when Jesus comes. You don't even understand your own fucking scripture.

Absent from the body is present with the Lord. I can believe you, or Paul.
I understand it a lot better than you seem to. The rapture happens before the tribulation. Christ never touches earth when he comes in the clouds to gather His bride. Not much later, He touches down on the Mt. of Olives with those he has gathered, to end the battle at Har Megido, and remains here, in Jerusalem forever.
Hope that helps your understanding.

You abandoned God. God never abandons His own.

Nah God abandoned us. That's why bad shit happens. Makes a ton more sense. I also looooooove the fact that you ignored what I said about resurrection and how you contradict the bible aka God! Maybe you should read the bible for yourself and understand it for yourself instead of taking for granted and without question what your pastor teaches you. Hope this helps!

 

[The Irish Ram]

Sin is septic. It has been passed down since the first human sinned. The only thing that saves your life is a blood transfusion. Pure blood in exchange for your corrupt blood. That exchange took place on a cross. It is a gift to you. From your brother.

 

[The Irish Ram]

The Charlston shooter murdered 9 black Christians IN their church.

The white woman who reported Roof (the shooter) to police was white and claimed it was divine intervention that put her in the right place at the right time.

God could put the white woman where she needed to be to catch the bad guy, but not be bothered to save his own worshippers.

- Either God doesn't exist (most likely.)

- God doesn't care much for Christians (if the Jewish god exists, then Christianity is no different than any pagan religion and so not being Judaism, not under His protection.)

- God hates black people (making a white woman a hero, but by letting 9 black people die.)

- The white shooter was apprehended alive (saved?)


With all the coverage about this yesterday and today, a lot of religious mumbo-jumbo is being mentioned but no one's saying the obvious. If God exists, why let 9 black people die, make 1 white woman a hero, and spare the bad guy who's also white? Unless God doesn't care about Christians, or doesn't care about black people.

The Charlston shooter murdered 9 black Christians IN their church.

The white woman who reported Roof (the shooter) to police was white and claimed it was divine intervention that put her in the right place at the right time.

God could put the white woman where she needed to be to catch the bad guy, but not be bothered to save his own worshippers.

- Either God doesn't exist (most likely.)

- God doesn't care much for Christians (if the Jewish god exists, then Christianity is no different than any pagan religion and so not being Judaism, not under His protection.)

- God hates black people (making a white woman a hero, but by letting 9 black people die.)

- The white shooter was apprehended alive (saved?)


With all the coverage about this yesterday and today, a lot of religious mumbo-jumbo is being mentioned but no one's saying the obvious. If God exists, why let 9 black people die, make 1 white woman a hero, and spare the bad guy who's also white? Unless God doesn't care about Christians, or doesn't care about black people.

God exists and is the devil. That's why God let all this happen. The people who were all like "God was working through is to capture him!" I gotta ask why God let it all happen in the first place. I'll tell you why either God is the devil or abandoned us! Maybe both

God is no more Satan than I am a bird. What a preposterous train of thought. This is Satan's domain for a time. He stole the position from Adam. Christ will be taking possession back soon. Until then, bad things happen here. The onus is on Satan, not God. Satan may kill the body, but the important part, our eternal souls, is what he is after, and what God prevents him from obtaining. Those people are fine and resting in God's arms as we speak. They will be some of the saints returning with Christ to defeat Satan.

You put importance on this life, that God knows is nothing more than a vapor in time of our eternal lives. You see the present. God sees the future, and those 9 people have a very bright future.

Maybe you missed my point. God abandoned us. Anyway if you believe in revelations they aren't in gods arms. They're fucking dead. The resurrection happens when Jesus comes. You don't even understand your own fucking scripture.

Absent from the body is present with the Lord. I can believe you, or Paul.
I understand it a lot better than you seem to. The rapture happens before the tribulation. Christ never touches earth when he comes in the clouds to gather His bride. Not much later, He touches down on the Mt. of Olives with those he has gathered, to end the battle at Har Megido, and remains here, in Jerusalem forever.
Hope that helps your understanding.

You abandoned God. God never abandons His own.

Nah God abandoned us. That's why bad shit happens. Makes a ton more sense. I also looooooove the fact that you ignored what I said about resurrection and how you contradict the bible aka God! Maybe you should read the bible for yourself and understand it for yourself instead of taking for granted and without question what your pastor teaches you. Hope this helps!

I didn't ignore it, I corrected it. You are incorrect. As far as sense, you are the reason we are told not to rely on our own understanding. Christ gathers his own from the clouds. He never touches earth in that instance. He is not seen by everyone. People just disappear.
EVERYONE will see Him when He touches down on the Mt. of Olives, His touch will create an earthquake from east to west along the fault line under the mountain. The Jews will recognize Him and run to Him for safety. The blood from that conflict will rise to the height of a horses bridle. He'll return just in time to prevent the annihilation of all life on earth.

The rapture happens prior to the sorrows because His children are not appointed to God's wrath.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Here is the Biblical refute you seem to be lacking:

Acts 10:34

Opening his mouth, Peter said: "I most certainly understand now that God is not one to show partiality, but in every nation the man who fears Him and does what is right is welcome to Him.…

Deuteronomy 10:17

For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes

.

2 Chronicles 19:7

Now let the fear of the LORD be on you. Judge carefully, for with the LORD our God there is no injustice or partiality or bribery

.

 

[Liffy]

God exists and is the devil. That's why God let all this happen. The people who were all like "God was working through is to capture him!" I gotta ask why God let it all happen in the first place. I'll tell you why either God is the devil or abandoned us! Maybe both

God is no more Satan than I am a bird. What a preposterous train of thought. This is Satan's domain for a time. He stole the position from Adam. Christ will be taking possession back soon. Until then, bad things happen here. The onus is on Satan, not God. Satan may kill the body, but the important part, our eternal souls, is what he is after, and what God prevents him from obtaining. Those people are fine and resting in God's arms as we speak. They will be some of the saints returning with Christ to defeat Satan.

You put importance on this life, that God knows is nothing more than a vapor in time of our eternal lives. You see the present. God sees the future, and those 9 people have a very bright future.

Maybe you missed my point. God abandoned us. Anyway if you believe in revelations they aren't in gods arms. They're fucking dead. The resurrection happens when Jesus comes. You don't even understand your own fucking scripture.

Absent from the body is present with the Lord. I can believe you, or Paul.
I understand it a lot better than you seem to. The rapture happens before the tribulation. Christ never touches earth when he comes in the clouds to gather His bride. Not much later, He touches down on the Mt. of Olives with those he has gathered, to end the battle at Har Megido, and remains here, in Jerusalem forever.
Hope that helps your understanding.

You abandoned God. God never abandons His own.

Nah God abandoned us. That's why bad shit happens. Makes a ton more sense. I also looooooove the fact that you ignored what I said about resurrection and how you contradict the bible aka God! Maybe you should read the bible for yourself and understand it for yourself instead of taking for granted and without question what your pastor teaches you. Hope this helps!

I didn't ignore it, I corrected it. You are incorrect. As far as sense, you are the reason we are told not to rely on our own understanding. Christ gathers his own from the clouds. He never touches earth in that instance. He is not seen by everyone. People just disappear.
EVERYONE will see Him when He touches down on the Mt. of Olives, His touch will create an earthquake from east to west along the fault line under the mountain. The Jews will recognize Him and run to Him for safety. The blood from that conflict will rise to the height of a horses bridle. He'll return just in time to prevent the annihilation of all life on earth.

The rapture happens prior to the sorrows because His children are not appointed to God's wrath.

You said you can believe me when I was paraphrasing a verse or two of revelations, or believe Paul who was most likely a liar since he contradict revelations.

Now you are talking about some bullshjr about Jesus not touching the earth or whatever. Which is wholly besides the point. And my point is the resurrection happens when Jesus comes to reign. Here's the verses Revelation 20 KJV
Read it for yourself. You don't need to beat around the bush. I'm not. I'm being straight to the point.

So back to the point. You said those 9 dead black people are in Gods arms aleady. But they can't be until they are resurrected. And the resurrection happens when Jesus comes to reign. End on story. I didn't tell you about some other shit in that same chapter or something else from another book. Or give you my interpretation on what would mean now for the Jews or what have you like you did. I was straight to the point.

 

[The Irish Ram]

No it does not. Why would we be going up when He is coming down? They are 2 separate incidences, and they are described differently in the book.
If we aren't raptured until Christ returns, then God is a liar. He said we aren't appointed to His wrath, which is why we are removed before the bowls and seals are released.
I'm still going with Paul. Your understanding is really lacking. You don't even understand the basics.

 

[Liffy]

No it does not. Why would we be going up when He is coming down? They are 2 separate incidences, and they are described differently in the book.
If we aren't raptured until Christ returns, then God is a liar. He said we aren't appointed to His wrath, which is why we are removed before the bowls and seals are released.
I'm still going with Paul. Your understanding is really lacking. You don't even understand the basics.

I said nothing about going up you stupid fuck. I said resurrection. Not rapture. The basics begins with understanding life and death and with that resurrection. I'm quoting your own book. You keep refusing to acknowledge what I said about resUrrection and what I said was straight from your book. Are you paying attention? Go with Paul. I'll go with God. Have fun in hell!

 

[Liffy]

You write like youre at least in highschool but you comprehend like a 5 year old.

 

[G.T.]

Your brain really hasnt matured yet at all, has it delta. Jeebus this is fucking stupid

 

[The Irish Ram]

You try to gain credibility by cursing and attacking. You lose by default.
One takes place with Christ in the clouds, the other when His foot touches down on earth. 2 separate occasions. So you think God does appoint us to wrath? I believe Him when He says I'm not. Have fun during the trib. I'll be watching from the mezzanine.

 

[The Irish Ram]

God is no more Satan than I am a bird. What a preposterous train of thought. This is Satan's domain for a time. He stole the position from Adam. Christ will be taking possession back soon. Until then, bad things happen here. The onus is on Satan, not God. Satan may kill the body, but the important part, our eternal souls, is what he is after, and what God prevents him from obtaining. Those people are fine and resting in God's arms as we speak. They will be some of the saints returning with Christ to defeat Satan.

You put importance on this life, that God knows is nothing more than a vapor in time of our eternal lives. You see the present. God sees the future, and those 9 people have a very bright future.

Maybe you missed my point. God abandoned us. Anyway if you believe in revelations they aren't in gods arms. They're fucking dead. The resurrection happens when Jesus comes. You don't even understand your own fucking scripture.

Absent from the body is present with the Lord. I can believe you, or Paul.
I understand it a lot better than you seem to. The rapture happens before the tribulation. Christ never touches earth when he comes in the clouds to gather His bride. Not much later, He touches down on the Mt. of Olives with those he has gathered, to end the battle at Har Megido, and remains here, in Jerusalem forever.
Hope that helps your understanding.

You abandoned God. God never abandons His own.

Nah God abandoned us. That's why bad shit happens. Makes a ton more sense. I also looooooove the fact that you ignored what I said about resurrection and how you contradict the bible aka God! Maybe you should read the bible for yourself and understand it for yourself instead of taking for granted and without question what your pastor teaches you. Hope this helps!

I didn't ignore it, I corrected it. You are incorrect. As far as sense, you are the reason we are told not to rely on our own understanding. Christ gathers his own from the clouds. He never touches earth in that instance. He is not seen by everyone. People just disappear.
EVERYONE will see Him when He touches down on the Mt. of Olives, His touch will create an earthquake from east to west along the fault line under the mountain. The Jews will recognize Him and run to Him for safety. The blood from that conflict will rise to the height of a horses bridle. He'll return just in time to prevent the annihilation of all life on earth.

The rapture happens prior to the sorrows because His children are not appointed to God's wrath.

You said you can believe me when I was paraphrasing a verse or two of revelations, or believe Paul who was most likely a liar since he contradict revelations.

Now you are talking about some bullshjr about Jesus not touching the earth or whatever. Which is wholly besides the point. And my point is the resurrection happens when Jesus comes to reign. Here's the verses Revelation 20 KJV
Read it for yourself. You don't need to beat around the bush. I'm not. I'm being straight to the point.

So back to the point. You said those 9 dead black people are in Gods arms aleady. But they can't be until they are resurrected. And the resurrection happens when Jesus comes to reign. End on story. I didn't tell you about some other shit in that same chapter or something else from another book. Or give you my interpretation on what would mean now for the Jews or what have you like you did. I was straight to the point.

The Rapture. ... caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.
Where? Where do we meet Him? In the what?

After God's wrath, (because we weren't here to experience God's wrath), Christ returns to a whole different scenario:

Then the LORD will go forth and fight against those nations, as when He fights on a day of battle. In that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which is in front of Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives will be split in its middle from east to west by a very large valley, so that half of the mountain will move toward the north and the other half toward the south. You will flee by the valley of My mountains, for the valley of the mountains will reach to Azel; yes, you will flee just as you fled before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD, my God, will come, and all the holy ones with Him!

Where? His foot touches what?

There is no fighting, no earthquakes, or fleeing to a mountain during the Rapture, because they are two different events. Not everyone sees him in one event. Everyone sees Him at the second event. Those holy ones that return with Him are those from previous raptures. The ones that ascended with Christ after his death on the cross, and those removed from the earth because of God's promise that his children will not endure what is coming.

You asked for someone to refute you OP. I did that. God is no respecter of persons. He sees a man's heart, not skin color. God does not hate Blacks. Consider yourself refuted.