Remember That Poor Little White Girl who got Her head pounded Into the Sidewalk?

[Ghost of a Rider]

Check out the thing marked "Apparent projectile". The only way that bullet could get into the concrete is if officer Shooty was aiming downwards.

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Not necessarily. At least one of the bullets that hit Brown exited his body: the one that hit him in the forehead. It exited through the right side of his jaw at a downward angle and that's probably the one that lodged in the asphalt.

There's also the issue of Brown's DNA being inside the cruiser which the above diagram does not include. This proves that Brown was inside the vehicle and corroborates Wilson's testimony that Brown was wrestling with him and tried to grab his firearm. The gunpowder residue on Brown's left hand also corroborates this.

You mean other than not releasing the earlier visit where he bartered for the "stolen" cigarellos and they kept playing the later store footage in slow motion?

He bartered and the store rejected it. He left with his dope and left the cigars on the counter.

 

[JoeB131]

What does his friend Dorian Johnson say? Remember, Dorian was right there with him when this went down. Did he say or testify anything along these lines? And the other people who were there? The person who called the cops?

If Johnson and the people who were actually there did not say or testify anything like this then I have no choice but to go with what the video shows: Patel tried to prevent Brown leaving with his merchandise and Brown shoved him.

Actually, if you watched Stranger Fruit, you would see that the police outright lied to him about the previous night's encounter at the store.

Seems you want to believe Dorian about stuff he didn't talk about, but want to discount him when he said that Wilson hit Brown with his car door and grabbed him by the neck and shot him.

What was in the video was not evidence, it was hearsay. The documentary maker presented no evidence that stores in the area regularly exchange dope for merchandise.

You mean other than people (including Dorian) saying they did?

But the transaction was never completed in this case because the store rejected it and there was no evidence otherwise presented to suggest this store engaged in the practice.

Except it was completed. The pot was NOT in Brown's hand when he left the store. You can see him smiling as he leaves the store. It was not recovered on his body the next day, either, but the paper he had in his hands that night with his poems on it were.

 

[JoeB131]

Not necessarily. At least one of the bullets that hit Brown exited his body: the one that hit him in the forehead. It exited through the right side of his jaw at a downward angle and that's probably the one that lodged in the asphalt.

Unlikely. The bullet had enough momentum to go through his skull -twice, and then penetrate asphalt.

There's also the issue of Brown's DNA being inside the cruiser which the above diagram does not include. This proves that Brown was inside the vehicle and corroborates Wilson's testimony that Brown was wrestling with him and tried to grab his firearm. The gunpowder residue on Brown's left hand also corroborates this.

Nope, not really. Wilson tried to grab him and pulled his gun over what was essentially a JAYWALKING charge on a residential street.

He bartered and the store rejected it. He left with his dope and left the cigars on the counter.

The pot was in a black bag. He never picks that bag back up.

 

[westwall]

Unlikely. The bullet had enough momentum to go through his skull -twice, and then penetrate asphalt.



Nope, not really. Wilson tried to grab him and pulled his gun over what was essentially a JAYWALKING charge on a residential street.


The pot was in a black bag. He never picks that bag back up.

How does a bullet go through a skull twice? It can only go through once.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Eyewitnesses agree Michael Brown was shot with his hands up

Several witnesses watched the Michael Brown shooting from beginning to end, and they all say pretty much the same thing.

www.vox.com

Darren Wilson's former police force was disbanded for excessive force and corruption

The Washington Post gives additional insight into the background of the officer who killed Michael Brown

www.salon.com

Check out the thing marked "Apparent projectile". The only way that bullet could get into the concrete is if officer Shooty was aiming downwards.

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You mean other than not releasing the earlier visit where he bartered for the "stolen" cigarellos and they kept playing the later store footage in slow motion?



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There you go again.

you keep cigting the same people who WERE NOT witnesses. They were proven to be LIARS .

That is fact and everytime you cite them it is absolute profo that YOU are A LIAR and coward

There were not 14 witnesses motherfucker stop caiminmg that there were


He was not fired as your link proves the department he worked for was disbanded. That does not mean he was fired you absolute uneducated brainddead FOOL

You are beyond fucking dumb the APPPARENT projectile did not require him to be on the ground but merelty bent foreard WHLE cvharging the officer which he did

Releasing one video is not video manipulation dumbass and all of those videos were available to the press

It is also irrelevant because bartering is not how stores sell product'
Your ignorant kid brown was a strupid worthless thug who robbed a storee then attacked a cop with intent to kill and was righerously shot in self defense

Those are facts and you have nothing to prove otherwise you racist sack of SHIT

You are a liar

 

[Soupnazi630]

Unlikely. The bullet had enough momentum to go through his skull -twice, and then penetrate asphalt.



Nope, not really. Wilson tried to grab him and pulled his gun over what was essentially a JAYWALKING charge on a residential street.


The pot was in a black bag. He never picks that bag back up.

Wrong motherfucker he pulled his gun becausde the thief thug and jaywalker attacked him rather than simply get off the fucking street

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Actually, if you watched Stranger Fruit, you would see that the police outright lied to him about the previous night's encounter at the store.

Irrelevant. We're talking about your allegation that Patel called Brown a racial slur.

Seems you want to believe Dorian about stuff he didn't talk about,

It would be pretty stupid of me to believe something he never said.

but want to discount him when he said that Wilson hit Brown with his car door and grabbed him by the neck and shot him.

Not what I said. My issue with what Johnson talked about in the video was his saying Wilson had Brown by the throat with his left hand and then suddenly the gun is in his left hand pointing it at Brown when Wilson's holster was on his right side. It doesn't make sense that a right-handed person with a holster on his right side would reach across his body to grab his gun with his left hand when that hand was supposedly already engaged in holding Brown and his right hand was free and on the steering wheel.

You mean other than people (including Dorian) saying they did?

Yes.

Except it was completed. The pot was NOT in Brown's hand when he left the store.

Yes, it was.

You still haven't explained why he left without the cigars. They were in a bag, the bag was in his hand and he was on his way out the door with it when the clerk said something to him. He then turned back and put the cigars back on the counter, grabbed his dope and left.

You can see him smiling as he leaves the store.

And?

It was not recovered on his body the next day, either, but the paper he had in his hands that night with his poems on it were.

It was nine to nine and a half hours between the first encounter and the second encounter. Plenty of time to have gotten rid of it or put away at home or whatever.

 

[JoeB131]

There were not 14 witnesses motherfucker stop caiminmg that there were

Sure there were.

He was not fired as your link proves the department he worked for was disbanded. That does not mean he was fired you absolute uneducated brainddead FOOL

Point was, he didn't have a job Monday Morning.

Wrong motherfucker he pulled his gun becausde the thief thug and jaywalker attacked him rather than simply get off the fucking street

Pull guns on jaywalkers is something a psycho would do. Someone who was fired from his previous job because his whole department was racist.

You still haven't explained why he left without the cigars. They were in a bag, the bag was in his hand and he was on his way out the door with it when the clerk said something to him. He then turned back and put the cigars back on the counter, grabbed his dope and left.

He was going to pick them up later. We've established this.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Unlikely. The bullet had enough momentum to go through his skull -twice, and then penetrate asphalt.

That was speculation on my part. We don't know how that bullet ended up in the asphalt but what we DO know is that Wilson did not stand over Brown and shoot him execution style.

Nope, not really.

"Nope, not really" what? Brown's DNA was found inside the cruiser. This is a fact.

Wilson tried to grab him and pulled his gun over what was essentially a JAYWALKING charge on a residential street.

He didn't pull his gun over the jaywalking.

The pot was in a black bag. He never picks that bag back up.

So he left his dope and the cigars? Does that make any sense since trading dope for cigars is what he went there to do? And he only put the cigars back on the counter when the clerk said something to him.

Something I came across while reviewing the DOJ report on the incident: it was the store owner's daughter who called 911, not a customer.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Sure there were.

Point was, he didn't have a job Monday Morning.


Pull guns on jaywalkers is something a psycho would do. Someone who was fired from his previous job because his whole department was racist.

He was going to pick them up later. We've established this.

No, "we" have not established anything. The idea that Brown left the cigars to pick up later is pure speculation on the part of the documentary maker. This has not been corroborated in any way.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Sure there were.

Point was, he didn't have a job Monday Morning.


Pull guns on jaywalkers is something a psycho would do. Someone who was fired from his previous job because his whole department was racist.

He was going to pick them up later. We've established this.

No there were not aany witnesses. The 14 you keep referring to were not witnesses they were liars. That is proven fact.

There were no witnesses claiming to have seen him shot on the ground or surrenderting that is FACT

No backpedal boy the point is not that he did not have a job the point is yuuou lied when you claim he was fired.

He was not fired from his previous job dumbass andhe pulled his gun when the thief and jaywalker attacked him

No you have not established any such thing

 

[JoeB131]

"Nope, not really" what? Brown's DNA was found inside the cruiser. This is a fact.

You mean after Officer Shooty put a hole in him?

So he left his dope and the cigars? Does that make any sense since trading dope for cigars is what he went there to do? And he only put the cigars back on the counter when the clerk said something to him.

Sure it does. Maybe he was going to someone's house who he didn't want to share his cigars with, or he didn't want to know he was smoking.

We don't know the clerk said anything. Frankly, looking at the body language, they clerks were all passing the dope around like 'That's some good shit!"

No there were not aany witnesses. The 14 you keep referring to were not witnesses they were liars. That is proven fact.

Proven by who?

No backpedal boy the point is not that he did not have a job the point is yuuou lied when you claim he was fired.

He was fired because he was part of a corrupt police force. They fired everyone, including him. A couple of the good ones were invited back when they formed a new police force, but not him. I wonder why?

 

[Soupnazi630]

You mean after Officer Shooty put a hole in him?



Sure it does. Maybe he was going to someone's house who he didn't want to share his cigars with, or he didn't want to know he was smoking.

We don't know the clerk said anything. Frankly, looking at the body language, they clerks were all passing the dope around like 'That's some good shit!"



Proven by who?


He was fired because he was part of a corrupt police force. They fired everyone, including him. A couple of the good ones were invited back when they formed a new police force, but not him. I wonder why?

He was shot because he attacked a police officer and tried to grab the gun DUMBASS
Maybe do not count for SHIT

Brown commited a robberyand then attacked a ciop threatening that cops life those are proven facts

Proven by gthemselves DUMBASS gtbhey contradicted themselves and lied

You have no witnesses or evidence'

He was not fired at all you liar

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

You mean after Officer Shooty put a hole in him?

So you admit Brown's hands, head and arms were inside the vehicle?

Sure it does. Maybe he was going to someone's house who he didn't want to share his cigars with, or he didn't want to know he was smoking.

Then why did he make like he was leaving with the cigars? He had the bag in his hand and took a couple of steps towards the door when the clerk called him back. It was then that he put the cigars back on the counter.

We don't know the clerk said anything. Frankly, looking at the body language, they clerks were all passing the dope around like 'That's some good shit!"

No they weren't. And each one of them tossed it back on the counter after looking at it.

Proven by who?


He was fired because he was part of a corrupt police force. They fired everyone, including him. A couple of the good ones were invited back when they formed a new police force, but not him. I wonder why?

Because he was already hired on at Ferguson.

 

[JoeB131]

Brown commited a robberyand then attacked a ciop threatening that cops life those are proven facts

Except the cop;s life wasn't under threat when he had his hands up.

Proven by gthemselves DUMBASS gtbhey contradicted themselves and lied

If you want to talk about contradictions, maybe you should look at wilson's testimony. He told the sergeant who responded that he didn't know about the so-called "robbery", but then in his grand jury testimony, he suddenly knew about it.

So you admit Brown's hands, head and arms were inside the vehicle?

Only if Wilson pulled him in after grabbing him by the neck.

Of course, Wilson was allowed to drive himself back to the precinct with that car. Neither he nor the car were impounded as evidence.

Then why did he make like he was leaving with the cigars? He had the bag in his hand and took a couple of steps towards the door when the clerk called him back. It was then that he put the cigars back on the counter.

Or he changed his mind. Here's the thing. We never heard from the Clerks. They didn't testify in front of the grand jury (because McCollough hid that part of the encounter) and they didn't talk to the Stranger fruit guy, either.

No they weren't. And each one of them tossed it back on the counter after looking at it.

No, they were handing it to each other and sniffing it, after which they gave him the cigars.

Because he was already hired on at Ferguson.

So he gave up years of seniority? He wasn't offered a job back because he wasn't one of the good ones.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Except the cop;s life wasn't under threat when he had his hands up.


If you want to talk about contradictions, maybe you should look at wilson's testimony. He told the sergeant who responded that he didn't know about the so-called "robbery", but then in his grand jury testimony, he suddenly knew about it.


Only if Wilson pulled him in after grabbing him by the neck.

The narrative by Johnson, other witnesses and you has always been that Brown was never inside the vehicle. In the documentary, Johnson tells the documentary maker that Wilson tried to pull Brown into the vehicle by way of his left hand on Brown's throat but never says Brown was in the vehicle at any point.

Of course, Wilson was allowed to drive himself back to the precinct with that car. Neither he nor the car were impounded as evidence.

Of course it was. How do you think they found Brown's DNA inside?

Or he changed his mind. Here's the thing. We never heard from the Clerks. They didn't testify in front of the grand jury (because McCollough hid that part of the encounter) and they didn't talk to the Stranger fruit guy, either.

That's because their lawyer spoke for them. They were probably advised by their lawyer not to speak to the press or the police directly or publicly. Besides, as I said before, what happened on the two encounters at the store and the dope-for-cigars attempt were irrelevant to the interaction between Brown and Wilson later.

No, they were handing it to each other and sniffing it, after which they gave him the cigars.

Wrong. After sniffing it and looking at it, the weed was tossed back on the counter and that's where it was when Brown grabbed the bag of cigars and started walking out. Brown turned around when the clerk said something to him and put the bag back on the counter.

At no point in the video was the bag of weed definitively accepted as payment for the cigars. The fact that the clerk called him back when Brown started walking out and Brown putting the cigars back on the counter suggests the weed was not accepted and the clerk wanted money instead. Not having any money, Brown left the store.

So he gave up years of seniority?

No one knew when the precinct was shut down that it would reopen later and he needed a job. Seniority was irrelevant at the point the precinct was closed.

He wasn't offered a job back because he wasn't one of the good ones.

You don't know that.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Except the cop;s life wasn't under threat when he had his hands up.


If you want to talk about contradictions, maybe you should look at wilson's testimony. He told the sergeant who responded that he didn't know about the so-called "robbery", but then in his grand jury testimony, he suddenly knew about it.


Only if Wilson pulled him in after grabbing him by the neck.

Of course, Wilson was allowed to drive himself back to the precinct with that car. Neither he nor the car were impounded as evidence.




Or he changed his mind. Here's the thing. We never heard from the Clerks. They didn't testify in front of the grand jury (because McCollough hid that part of the encounter) and they didn't talk to the Stranger fruit guy, either.



No, they were handing it to each other and sniffing it, after which they gave him the cigars.


So he gave up years of seniority? He wasn't offered a job back because he wasn't one of the good ones.

His hands were not up they cannot be up when reaching into the police car to attack the cop

 

[JoeB131]

The narrative by Johnson, other witnesses and you has always been that Brown was never inside the vehicle. In the documentary, Johnson tells the documentary maker that Wilson tried to pull Brown into the vehicle by way of his left hand on Brown's throat but never says Brown was in the vehicle at any point.

You realize when Brown was shot, his DNA would have splattered. Was it blood DNA or touch DNA.

Not even sure why you think this was a big deal or not. Wilson grabbed this kid, pulled his gun, shot him, the kid ran down the street, Wilso kept firing at him, and when he gave up, Wilso pumped him full of lead.

His hands were not up they cannot be up when reaching into the police car to attack the cop

Are you fucking retarded? Do you have a learning disability, Corky?

 

[JoeB131]

That's because their lawyer spoke for them. They were probably advised by their lawyer not to speak to the press or the police directly or publicly. Besides, as I said before, what happened on the two encounters at the store and the dope-for-cigars attempt were irrelevant to the interaction between Brown and Wilson later.

Why would they not need to talk to the police if they hadn't done anything wrong.

This seems to CONFIRM the premise that they were swapping merch for drugs.

I agree, anything that happened in the store was irrelevant, because WIlson never knew about the "Robbery" that wasn't. But the Popo only told part of the story.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You realize when Brown was shot, his DNA would have splattered. Was it blood DNA or touch DNA.

Not even sure why you think this was a big deal or not. Wilson grabbed this kid, pulled his gun, shot him, the kid ran down the street, Wilso kept firing at him, and when he gave up, Wilso pumped him full of lead.


Are you fucking retarded? Do you have a learning disability, Corky?

LOL god you make a lot of shit up and then spray it around like it is fact.