Remember when Trump was attacking NATO? Thank your lucky stars he was fired.

And you are quite the deranged TDS hack.

How's life with Biden's dick up your ass?

Trump was commenting on Putin playing the west before the invasion. Hell Biden qualified the possible US response to limited incursions into Ukraine.
Putin and Trump are besties. They are both playing all of us.
 
None that wasn't made up bullshit. They went over that man with a fine tooth comb and found NOTHING. So the Democrats were forced to make it all up. And they did. And you bought it hook, line and sinker. And now we pay for your gullibility.
If it was made up bs, you'd have us a nice fresh link showing us I am wrong. You don't. And by the way, you won't be producing one either. The Trump team got caught colluding with Russia, and nothing you can say will change that. "NOTHING!"
 
Under President Trump, the invasion would not have happened.

“In a second Trump term, I think he may well have withdrawn from NATO,” Bolton said. “And I think [Russian President Vladimir] Putin was waiting for that.”


Former national security adviser John Bolton toldThe Washington Post Friday that he thinks former president Donald Trump would have pulled the United States out of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization had he been reelected in 2020," the newspaper reported. "Bolton, in an interview with Post opinions editor at large Michael Duffy, said the former president came close to pulling the United States out of NATO in 2018, a claim he originally made in a memoir published in 2020. In his book, Bolton wrote that he had to convince Trump not to quit NATO in the middle of a 2018 summit."
 
If it was made up bs, you'd have us a nice fresh link showing us I am wrong. You don't. And by the way, you won't be producing one either. The Trump team got caught colluding with Russia, and nothing you can say will change that. "NOTHING!"
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“In a second Trump term, I think he may well have withdrawn from NATO,” Bolton said. “And I think [Russian President Vladimir] Putin was waiting for that.”


Former national security adviser John Bolton toldThe Washington Post Friday that he thinks former president Donald Trump would have pulled the United States out of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization had he been reelected in 2020," the newspaper reported. "Bolton, in an interview with Post opinions editor at large Michael Duffy, said the former president came close to pulling the United States out of NATO in 2018, a claim he originally made in a memoir published in 2020. In his book, Bolton wrote that he had to convince Trump not to quit NATO in the middle of a 2018 summit."
"He thinks", "came close", "a claim", "wrote that", yeah, about that.

President Trump plays chess while everyone else is playing tic, tac, toe!
 
Actually just the opposite. There is a reason why Trump and Putin are besties; https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...artment_for_waiver_from_russia_sanctions.html

The oil deal fell through because Trump was under investigation. Now that Trump doesn't have the power, Putin will get it another way.
First of all, you can believe whatever you want to believe. 2017 webpages which based on a lady who had been yelling "Russia Russia Russia!!!!" for four years, c'mon man, you can do better than that :rolleyes:
 
"He thinks",
You think under President Trump, the invasion would not have happened.
Under President Trump, the invasion would not have happened.
Which makes no sense unless we are to believe that Putin is attempting to seize Ukraine and destroy a quarter century of economic progress in his country becausec he couldn’t do it when Trump was President but could do it because Biden is President.,

Bolton says Putin hoped Trump would get a second term because he feared Biden wouid strengthen NATO and the EU’s resolve to punish him for any attempt at regime change or seizing more land much more so than a Trump America would. Bolton’s assessment is much more plausible than yours.
 
What a clusterfuck our response to this invasion would be if Putin's BFF was still in Washington. The world breathes a sigh of relief, along with educated and sensible Americans.



BRUSSELS — The Dutch are sending rocket launchers for air defense. The Estonians are sending Javelin antitank missiles. The Poles and the Latvians are sending Stinger surface-to-air missiles. The Czechs are sending machine guns, sniper rifles, pistols and ammunition.

Even formerly neutral countries like Sweden and Finland are sending weapons. And Germany, long allergic to sending weapons into conflict zones, is sending Stingers as well as other shoulder-launched rockets.

In all, about 20 countries — most members of NATO and the European Union, but not all — are funneling arms into Ukraine to fight off Russian invaders and arm an insurgency, if the war comes to that.

At the same time, NATO is moving military equipment and as many as 22,000 more troops into member states bordering Russia and Belarus, to reassure them and enhance deterrence.


The Russian invasion of Ukraine has brought European countries together as never before, minds concentrated by the larger threat to European security presented by the Russia of President Vladimir V. Putin.

“European security and defense has evolved more in the last six days than in the last two decades,” Ursula von der Leyen, the president of the European Union’s executive arm, asserted in a speech to the European Parliament on Tuesday. Brussels has moved to “Europeanize” the efforts of member states to aid Ukraine with weapons and money and put down a marker for the bloc as a significant military actor.


But whether European weaponry will continue to reach the Ukrainian battlefield in time to make a difference is far from certain. However proud Brussels is of its effort, it is a strategy that risks encouraging a wider war and possible retaliation from Mr. Putin. The rush of lethal military aid into Ukraine from Poland, a member of NATO, aims, after all, to kill Russian soldiers.

Mr. Putin already sees NATO as committed to threaten or even destroy Russia through its support for Ukraine, as he has repeated in his recent speeches, even as he has raised the nuclear alert of his own forces to warn Europe and the United States of the risks of interference.



It's a reality Trump wasn't able or willing to see.

China, 1.4 billion people.
Russia 150 million.

Right there, just two countries with 1.55 billion people.

Against the US 300 million, EU and UK 450 million, Australia and New Zealand and Canada 60 million people. A total of about 800 million, about HALF that of Russia and China.

And China is growing. Give it Russian expertise in producing weaponry and you've got a formidable force right there.

NATO is going to be important in the next decades.
 
President Trump plays chess while everyone else is playing tic, tac, toe!

Trump wasn’t playing anything in the real game after he lost at re-election being too fucking weak to defeat Joe Biden. So what is the point?
 
It's a reality Trump wasn't able or willing to see.

China, 1.4 billion people.
Russia 150 million.

Right there, just two countries with 1.55 billion people.

Against the US 300 million, EU and UK 450 million, Australia and New Zealand and Canada 60 million people. A total of about 800 million, about HALF that of Russia and China.

And China is growing. Give it Russian expertise in producing weaponry and you've got a formidable force right there.

NATO is going to be important in the next decades.
NATO has its purposes. Sure glad Trump had the foresight to get them to start making fair contributions.
 
You think under President Trump, the invasion would not have happened.
I believe the invasion would not have happened under Trump. Putin just needs to wait for Trump to finish his term(s). Trump is so unpredictable.

Which makes no sense unless we are to believe that Putin is attempting to seize Ukraine and destroy a quarter century of economic progress in his country becausec he couldn’t do it when Trump was President but could do it because Biden is President.,

Bolton says Putin hoped Trump would get a second term because he feared Biden wouid strengthen NATO and the EU’s resolve to punish him for any attempt at regime change or seizing more land much more so than a Trump America would. Bolton’s assessment is much more plausible than yours.
Who writes shxt like this? Did Bolton read the news? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: , People really will say anything to get on the TV
 
I believe the invasion would not have happened under Trump

You also believe Trump has yet to finish more than one term(s) ???

Putin just needs to wait for Trump to finish his term(s). Trump is so unpredictable.

Yet Biden was absolutely predictable and with damn near full unanimity of bi-partisan support in Congress for tough sanctions and strengthening American led resolve in NATO and the EU against Purin expansion..
 
You also believe Trump has yet to finish more than one term(s) ???
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I mean one team or 2 teams, It does not matter. Putin just needs to wait.

Yet Biden was absolutely predictable and with damn near full unanimity of bi-partisan support in Congress for tough sanctions and strengthening American led resolve in NATO and the EU against Purin expansion..
It does not seem Putin either cares or is scared.

Tough sanctions and strengthening the US-led :rolleyes: Watchless MSM, the 1st round of sanctions are so laughably weak. In fact, all the US sanctions are one step behind EU policy. Hey, the US is still buying Russian oil.

Your post is the same as Bolton's comment.
 
Trump saved NATO and gave it a badly needed correction.

For years NATO countries drifted along, not paying their obligation to NATO while we did . They were giving nothing more than lip service. Trump announced that if these countries did not start paying the US was leaving. Germany owed the most. They hadn't paid in years. Merkle grumbled but paid just like everyone else.

Not that any of this is doing Ukraine any good.
 
If it was made up bs, you'd have us a nice fresh link showing us I am wrong. You don't. And by the way, you won't be producing one either. The Trump team got caught colluding with Russia, and nothing you can say will change that. Nothing.

I can show you that you are wrong all day...:2up:







And I picked the links of all your beloved state run medias, to stop the, "oh yeah, Faux news..." bullshit before you even start it.
Those are the very media outlets that dished up all the bullshit that you sucked down like a little baby bird. Even they have had to capitulate to the truth. They simply couldn't hide it anymore.
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They couldn't hide Hunter's and the Big Guy's Russian "income" either. You probably haven't heard about that scandal yet. The proof is on Hunter's lap top.

Want me to explain the whole, LET'S GO BRANDON fad? Have you heard about it yet??

You have got to be the only person on earth that hasn't heard the truth. How embarrassing for you to be so gullible. Hell, even Canada and the BBC know now that Obama spied and Hillary lied. But you still don't.

You poor brain washed baby. You probably shouldn't try to post anymore... :itsok:
 
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Once again...your contention makes ZERO sense, Krichton! Trump threatened to pull out of NATO if our allies in NATO didn't start living up to their commitments towards defense. How does Trump twisting arms to make NATO stronger in any way help Putin?

That was just a convenient excuse for Trump to exit out of NATO. Trump has no interest in the United States being in NATO at all. He said as much to his aides at the time, and this was again, recently confirmed by John Bolton. Mattis probably has the exact same account. Trump in a previous statement even said NATO was obsolete. Does any of this sound at all like someone interested in strengthening NATO???? Without the US, NATO would eventually collapse. You know who knows this all too well? Putin. The fact that Ukraine wasn't part of NATO is why they are currently in their mess. Now it's been revealed that Putin plans to invade Moldova, anther non NATO nation, with the assistance of Belarus. Threatening to break up the most powerful and longest standing alliance in Europe is absolutely moronic and exactly what Putin wanted. This is precisely why Putin wanted Trump elected the first and second time.
 

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