Remembering Robert E. Lee: American Patriot and Southern Hero

[bripat9643]

We've already been through this, and your idiocy has been proven wrong a dozen times.

Nope. SC wanted the protection and didn't want to foot the bill for that protection. They screwed the pooch in more ways than one.

Hmmm . . wrong. You're a moron.

Could be true, but I'm less of a moron than you. You didn't even know that little tidbit of history. Try to educate yourself next time you want to whine about the epic failure of the southern states.

You're the one who doesn't know the facts about that "tidbit" of history. I've already submitted several posts on the subject including cites of historical documents.

Nothing you've posted disproves the fact that in 1836 South Carolina enacted legislation that ceded Ft. Sumter to the Federal government.

It only sold the property to the federal government. It did not cede legal jurisdiction on the property to the federal government. It retained the right to enforce its laws.

The fact that you and the other Lincoln worshippers continue to ignore that facts shows that you're just a gang of dumb asses who don't give a damn about the facts.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

We've already been through this, and your idiocy has been proven wrong a dozen times.

Nope. SC wanted the protection and didn't want to foot the bill for that protection. They screwed the pooch in more ways than one.

Hmmm . . wrong. You're a moron.

Could be true, but I'm less of a moron than you. You didn't even know that little tidbit of history. Try to educate yourself next time you want to whine about the epic failure of the southern states.

You're the one who doesn't know the facts about that "tidbit" of history. I've already submitted several posts on the subject including cites of historical documents.

Nothing you've posted disproves the fact that in 1836 South Carolina enacted legislation that ceded Ft. Sumter to the Federal government.

South Carolina wasn't a sovereign nation at the time.

 

[reconmark]

Confederates crying for their "Freedom" to subjugate a whole race of people.

Four million slaves. Not even classed as citizens. This includes Free Blacks who needed passes just to travel, prevented them from owning arms, and a whole arrays of Codes that denied them rights.

Just shy of 4 million owned, traded and sold as a farmer does a cow.

Never mind their wholesale stomping on First Amendment rights / Freedom of the press / Freedom of Speech for decades before the war - for the majority of those they did allow citizenship.

They were more authoritarian than the "tyrants" they rebelled against.

Hmmm, no they weren't. You think blacks were treated like equals in the North? Many states had black codes that sometimes made it impossible to live in those states. Northerners were probably more racist than Southerners.

....

They treated them better than your heroes who wanted to own them as farm property and rape their women and children.

I think brit may be so upset because his ancestors even at that time were too stupid and lazy to grow wealthy on the backs of slaves.
He longs for the days of easy money falling into the hands of inbred cousins...

Idiot.

You are quite courageous to admit that you are...

 

[TakeAStepBack]

South Carolina fired the first shots. and they did so to protect the institution of slavery:

"The General Government, as the common agent, passed laws to carry into effect these stipulations of the States. For many years these laws were executed. But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution. "
Avalon Project - Confederate States of America - Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union

"The new Constitution has put at rest forever all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institutions—African slavery as it exists among us—the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution."
- Alexander Stephens - Vice President of the Confederacy

Alexander Stephens Reinforces The Cornerstone

Irrelevant. Firing of foreign troops trespassing on your territory is not an act of war.

You turds will repeat this mantra endlessly: "they fired the first shots. They fired the first shots. They fired the first shots." You obviously don't give a damn about the facts or international law. You're spewing Lincoln propaganda, just as they did 150 years ago.

Do you ever look at what you type before you click "post reply"?

One wonders how the troops were decided to be" foreign".

They were union troops. SC was a sovereign country after it seceded.

Ft. Sumter belonged to the United States, NOT, to South Carolina. In fact, South Caroline passed legislation in 1836 stating that they were ceding Ft. Sumter to the federal government.

Therefore, there were no foreign troops on Ft. Sumter.

Another trip through the rabbit hole, Bripat.......

 

[paperview]

Here, White Supremacists -

Keep yourself occupied.

 

[Ravi]

Ft. Sumter belonged to the United States, NOT, to South Carolina. In fact, South Caroline passed legislation in 1836 stating that they were ceding Ft. Sumter to the federal government.

Therefore, there were no foreign troops on Ft. Sumter.

We've already been through this, and your idiocy has been proven wrong a dozen times.

Nope. SC wanted the protection and didn't want to foot the bill for that protection. They screwed the pooch in more ways than one.

Hmmm . . wrong. You're a moron.

Could be true, but I'm less of a moron than you. You didn't even know that little tidbit of history. Try to educate yourself next time you want to whine about the epic failure of the southern states.

Wow, that's a neat trick, making something up and then chiding people for not knowing it too. I see what you did there.

Acts and Joint Resolutions of the General Assembly of the State of South ... - South Carolina - Google Books

 

[bripat9643]

Irrelevant. Firing of foreign troops trespassing on your territory is not an act of war.

You turds will repeat this mantra endlessly: "they fired the first shots. They fired the first shots. They fired the first shots." You obviously don't give a damn about the facts or international law. You're spewing Lincoln propaganda, just as they did 150 years ago.

Do you ever look at what you type before you click "post reply"?

One wonders how the troops were decided to be" foreign".

They were union troops. SC was a sovereign country after it seceded.

Ft. Sumter belonged to the United States, NOT, to South Carolina. In fact, South Caroline passed legislation in 1836 stating that they were ceding Ft. Sumter to the federal government.

Therefore, there were no foreign troops on Ft. Sumter.

Another trip through the rabbit hole, Bripat.......

Yeah, I know. We've been around this loop of circular logic several times already. Of course, they have repeated every one of their arguments multiple times. Being wrong doesn't seem to dissuade them.

 

[DriftingSand]

US Senator brags about killing to spread slavery. Then kills to spread slavery. His speech should be in every US text book.

He also made it a crime to speak against slavery.


He also made it a crime -- really, we show you -- to not sign a card promising you are pro slavery. Men were arrested and tortured for not signing that card.

Democrat Senator Theodore G. Bilbo:

Bilbo criticized Murphree for calling out the National Guard to prevent a lynching in Jackson, declaring that no black person was worthy of protection by the Guard.

[17]
Theodore G. Bilbo - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

US Senator brags about killing to spread slavery. Then kills to spread slavery. His speech should be in every US text book.

He also made it a crime to speak against slavery.


He also made it a crime -- really, we show you -- to not sign a card promising you are pro slavery. Men were arrested and tortured for not signing that card.

Lincoln shut down any newspaper the criticized his administration or his policies - over 300 hundred of them. He also threw people into concentration camps merely for not showing enough enthusiasm for his policies. Lincoln worshippers are hardly in a position to be attacking the South on free speech issues.

As usual you ignorance can't refute fact so the attempt at deflection begins.
It can't deflect from the fact that these inbred cousin fuckers fought to maintain slavery...they admit it from their own mouths.

And there it is. The demonic Left HATES country folk because we represent the goodness of America. Their socialist agena proceeds from big cities, but the resistance comes from everywhere else. No wonder they hate us.

 

[RKMBrown]

It wasn't another country. No one recognized it as such.

You can't just let states take federal property. That is property of the whole of the people.

What if Kentucky decided to just declare independence and say, hey, Fort Knox belongs to us now. Too bad.

Can't do it. Besides, as I showed earlier, South Carolina ceded all rights to Fort Sumter in 1836. It wasn't hers to just take.

Nor were the forts and military instillations or the Mint filled with Gold they seized. Or the US Ships they fired on, and captured for their own use as Man of War vessels in January 1861.

You can't just go stealing federal government property and say: hey, it's ours now. Go fuck yourselves.

You mean we have to give back forts to the indians, british, mexicans, etc.? Who knew?

Newsflash: The South lost the Civil War.

Really? So when a state leaves a union there has to be a civil war killing millions to decide who gets the forts?

 

[Ravi]

Nope. SC wanted the protection and didn't want to foot the bill for that protection. They screwed the pooch in more ways than one.

Hmmm . . wrong. You're a moron.

Could be true, but I'm less of a moron than you. You didn't even know that little tidbit of history. Try to educate yourself next time you want to whine about the epic failure of the southern states.

You're the one who doesn't know the facts about that "tidbit" of history. I've already submitted several posts on the subject including cites of historical documents.

Nothing you've posted disproves the fact that in 1836 South Carolina enacted legislation that ceded Ft. Sumter to the Federal government.

It only sold the property to the federal government. It did not cede legal jurisdiction on the property to the federal government. It retained the right to enforce its laws.

The fact that you and the other Lincoln worshippers continue to ignore that facts shows that you're just a gang of dumb asses who don't give a damn about the facts.

It didn't sell the land. It ceded the land to the Federal government.

 

[Ravi]

Nope. SC wanted the protection and didn't want to foot the bill for that protection. They screwed the pooch in more ways than one.

Hmmm . . wrong. You're a moron.

Could be true, but I'm less of a moron than you. You didn't even know that little tidbit of history. Try to educate yourself next time you want to whine about the epic failure of the southern states.

You're the one who doesn't know the facts about that "tidbit" of history. I've already submitted several posts on the subject including cites of historical documents.

Nothing you've posted disproves the fact that in 1836 South Carolina enacted legislation that ceded Ft. Sumter to the Federal government.

South Carolina wasn't a sovereign nation at the time.

It never was a sovereign nation but it gave up land to the Federal government in 1836.

 

[paperview]

It wasn't another country. No one recognized it as such.

You can't just let states take federal property. That is property of the whole of the people.

What if Kentucky decided to just declare independence and say, hey, Fort Knox belongs to us now. Too bad.

Can't do it. Besides, as I showed earlier, South Carolina ceded all rights to Fort Sumter in 1836. It wasn't hers to just take.

Nor were the forts and military instillations or the Mint filled with Gold they seized. Or the US Ships they fired on, and captured for their own use as Man of War vessels in January 1861.

You can't just go stealing federal government property and say: hey, it's ours now. Go fuck yourselves.

You mean we have to give back forts to the indians, british, mexicans, etc.? Who knew?

Newsflash: The South lost the Civil War.

Really? So when a state leaves a union there has to be a civil war killing millions to decide who gets the forts?

They were stealing property belonging to the whole of the country. There were committing insurrection and firing on Federal troops and property. When that happens, yes.

The Civil War answered the question.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

We've already been through this, and your idiocy has been proven wrong a dozen times.

Nope. SC wanted the protection and didn't want to foot the bill for that protection. They screwed the pooch in more ways than one.

Hmmm . . wrong. You're a moron.

Could be true, but I'm less of a moron than you. You didn't even know that little tidbit of history. Try to educate yourself next time you want to whine about the epic failure of the southern states.

Wow, that's a neat trick, making something up and then chiding people for not knowing it too. I see what you did there.

Acts and Joint Resolutions of the General Assembly of the State of South ... - South Carolina - Google Books

You idiot. That's just a long block of unintelligible crap.

 

[bripat9643]

It wasn't another country. No one recognized it as such.

You can't just let states take federal property. That is property of the whole of the people.

What if Kentucky decided to just declare independence and say, hey, Fort Knox belongs to us now. Too bad.

Can't do it. Besides, as I showed earlier, South Carolina ceded all rights to Fort Sumter in 1836. It wasn't hers to just take.

Nor were the forts and military instillations or the Mint filled with Gold they seized. Or the US Ships they fired on, and captured for their own use as Man of War vessels in January 1861.

You can't just go stealing federal government property and say: hey, it's ours now. Go fuck yourselves.

You mean we have to give back forts to the indians, british, mexicans, etc.? Who knew?

Newsflash: The South lost the Civil War.

Really? So when a state leaves a union there has to be a civil war killing millions to decide who gets the forts?

They were stealing property belonging to the whole of the country. There were committing insurrection and firing on Federal troops and property. When that happens, yes.

The Civil War answered the question.

All wrong. These claims have been discredited multiple times already.

 

[bripat9643]

Hmmm . . wrong. You're a moron.

Could be true, but I'm less of a moron than you. You didn't even know that little tidbit of history. Try to educate yourself next time you want to whine about the epic failure of the southern states.

You're the one who doesn't know the facts about that "tidbit" of history. I've already submitted several posts on the subject including cites of historical documents.

Nothing you've posted disproves the fact that in 1836 South Carolina enacted legislation that ceded Ft. Sumter to the Federal government.

It only sold the property to the federal government. It did not cede legal jurisdiction on the property to the federal government. It retained the right to enforce its laws.

The fact that you and the other Lincoln worshippers continue to ignore that facts shows that you're just a gang of dumb asses who don't give a damn about the facts.

It didn't sell the land. It ceded the land to the Federal government.

All that means is that it didn't charge the federal government any money. What it didn't do is give up legal jurisdiction over the land. You and your fellow imbeciles keep ignoring that fact.

 

[Ravi]

Nope. SC wanted the protection and didn't want to foot the bill for that protection. They screwed the pooch in more ways than one.

Hmmm . . wrong. You're a moron.

Could be true, but I'm less of a moron than you. You didn't even know that little tidbit of history. Try to educate yourself next time you want to whine about the epic failure of the southern states.

Wow, that's a neat trick, making something up and then chiding people for not knowing it too. I see what you did there.

Acts and Joint Resolutions of the General Assembly of the State of South ... - South Carolina - Google Books

You idiot. That's just a long block of unintelligible crap.

It's a link to the law South Carolina passed to cede Ft. Sumter to the USA.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Hmmm . . wrong. You're a moron.

Could be true, but I'm less of a moron than you. You didn't even know that little tidbit of history. Try to educate yourself next time you want to whine about the epic failure of the southern states.

You're the one who doesn't know the facts about that "tidbit" of history. I've already submitted several posts on the subject including cites of historical documents.

Nothing you've posted disproves the fact that in 1836 South Carolina enacted legislation that ceded Ft. Sumter to the Federal government.

South Carolina wasn't a sovereign nation at the time.

It never was a sovereign nation but it gave up land to the Federal government in 1836.

You idiot again. If it wasn't a sovereign nation and then it had no authority to cede or not cede land to Congress. You can't have it both ways.

 

[reconmark]

US Senator brags about killing to spread slavery. Then kills to spread slavery. His speech should be in every US text book.

He also made it a crime to speak against slavery.


He also made it a crime -- really, we show you -- to not sign a card promising you are pro slavery. Men were arrested and tortured for not signing that card.

Lincoln shut down any newspaper the criticized his administration or his policies - over 300 hundred of them. He also threw people into concentration camps merely for not showing enough enthusiasm for his policies. Lincoln worshippers are hardly in a position to be attacking the South on free speech issues.

As usual you ignorance can't refute fact so the attempt at deflection begins.
It can't deflect from the fact that these inbred cousin fuckers fought to maintain slavery...they admit it from their own mouths.

And there it is. The demonic Left HATES country folk because we represent the goodness of America. Their socialist agena proceeds from big cities, but the resistance comes from everywhere else. No wonder they hate us.

And there it is, people so dishonorable, lazy, shiftless and unintelligent that they based their entire culture on the slavery of other Human Beings.
People so devoid of integrity that they would lie for hundreds of years as to why they chose to become traitors and fight against their fellow citizens so that they could grow wealthier from the miseries of others.
So unintelligent that they were unable to perform their own labor and economic commerse that they suckled the tit of the North for their sustenance beyond grits and squirrels.
So devoid of morality that they willingly distorted the word of the Almighty in order to justify their sinful practice.
So immoral that they chose to fuck their cousins and relatives in order to prevent the more educated, oral and intelligent Northerners from seeing first hand the depravity and sordid nature of the primitive southern society.

 

[Ravi]

Could be true, but I'm less of a moron than you. You didn't even know that little tidbit of history. Try to educate yourself next time you want to whine about the epic failure of the southern states.

You're the one who doesn't know the facts about that "tidbit" of history. I've already submitted several posts on the subject including cites of historical documents.

Nothing you've posted disproves the fact that in 1836 South Carolina enacted legislation that ceded Ft. Sumter to the Federal government.

It only sold the property to the federal government. It did not cede legal jurisdiction on the property to the federal government. It retained the right to enforce its laws.

The fact that you and the other Lincoln worshippers continue to ignore that facts shows that you're just a gang of dumb asses who don't give a damn about the facts.

It didn't sell the land. It ceded the land to the Federal government.

All that means is that it didn't charge the federal government any money. What it didn't do is give up legal jurisdiction over the land. You and your fellow imbeciles keep ignoring that fact.

Absolutely it means they gave up legal jurisdiction. They wanted the federal government to protect their little asses and they wanted the federal government to foot the bill to protect their little asses.