REPORT: Seattle Restaurants Suffer Worse Job Loss Since The Great Recession

[EverCurious]

"survive?" I mean if we take the one story as truth, the workers are blowing their extra cash on pizza/eating out. That's not survival, it's frivolous spending.

Even still, in the whole picture, Seattle is rated 40 out of 50 for highest cost of living, so they're still kind of fucked regardless of the min wage increases...

 

[SAYIT]

well well. YOU were warned. so now go beg your Commie government to take care of you. Of course it won't be THEIR MONIES

SNIP;
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REPORT: Seattle Restaurants Suffer Worse Job Loss Since The Great Recession

Connor D. Wolf
Contributor


12:03 PM 08/10/2015
According to a report released Sunday by the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), the $15 minimum wage has caused Seattle restaurants to lose 1,000 jobs — the worst decline since the 2009 Great Recession.

“The loss of 1,000 restaurant jobs in May following the minimum wage increase in April was the largest one month job decline since a 1,300 drop in January 2009, again during the Great Recession,” AEI Scholar Mark J. Perry noted in the report.

The citywide minimum wage increase was passed in June of last year. The measure is designed to increase the city minimum wage gradually to $15 an hour by 2017. The first increase under the plan was to $11 an hour in April. According to the report, Seattle restaurants have already faced severe consequences as a result. In contrast, in the six years since the 2009 financial crisis, the industry has been recovering in areas without the $15 minimum wage.

“Restaurant employment nationally increased by 130,700 jobs (and by 1.2%) during that same period,” the report also noted. “Restaurant employment in Washington increased 3.2% and by 2,800 jobs.”


Supporters of the $15 minimum wage often argue it will help the poor and stimulate economic activity. Opponents, however, argue such policies will actually hurt the poor by limiting job opportunities. How little or how much of either outcome usually depends on the study. Nevertheless, even the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) agrees at least some job loss is expected.

all of it here:
Why Did Seattle Restaurants Lose 1 000 Jobs Report Blames The Minimum Wage The Daily Caller

I live in Seattle and one of my closest female friends manages a very popular pizza/pasta restaurant. Yes it is true that there is a lot of turnover recently in minimum wage employees. The above story omits something very important though. It seems to present a case that the restaurant owners and managers have had to fire over 1,000 employees over the new minimum wage. That is a big fat lie!

The TRUTH is that most of the turnover is because of the minimum wage employees ARE QUITTING in search of more suitable or desirable employment in this highly volatile employment market at this time. Now that the pay is more desirable in general people are exploring getting employment in areas they previously found interesting but not paying enough money.

It IS NOT TRUE that employers are firing minimum wage workers right and left over the minimum wage. I'm sure that the author of the piece the OP has cherry picked is well aware of the truth but as RWers are they have no problem lying to prove a point that on it's own does not exist supported by the facts.

I know of no pizza restaurant that has gone out of business just because they have to pay the higher minimum wage. One of my best friends drives pizza delivery and lately he has been busier than ever. People HAVE NOT stopped buying pizza in Seattle. It still takes the same amount of people to run the restaurants.

What HAS happened is that several thousand people have a lot more disposable income to spend in the city. In the last few years the min wage has gone from around $7 to $15. That's $8 X 40 X 52. That's several thousand people spending over $15,000 a year MORE in the city. That's 30-50 million more dollars in circulation a year more than a few years ago.

THAT IS THE TRUTH!

I can't say the article doesn't overstate the situation (it probably does) but I can say that while claiming RWers lie you engage in a whopper (pun intended) of your own. The min wage has not gone to $15 but as the article correctly notes, is now at $11/hr. So why is it you socialist-types must lie?
Can it be the truth is more like Greece?

 

[charwin95]

Daily Caller say. It's the worst job lost since the 2009 recession. LOL.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

These higher wages better mean that every job in Seattle is held by a legal American citizen !
It also better mean that every single Seattle lib that supports these wages, spends ALL of their money inside the city limit to support the businesses that are forced to pay these obscene entry-level wages.

 

[initforme]

well if those jobs originally paid anything less than $12 per hour they arent big losses. Those jobs dont help the economy all that much. Those are meant for kids only and any business that employs adults for those wages is not one worth apply to.

 

[Stephanie]

So lets look at the result of this minimum wage increase. Over a THOUSAND restaurant employees lost their jobs in a single month (with even more to come next month), and since restaurants are now understaffed, it will take forever for your table to be served food.

Who are the winners in this?

The workers who can finally survive?

But since this is the Daily Caller and the American Enterprise Institute, I am not surprised by the spin. Many restaurants are doing just fine.

In fact, they ignored the job gains in July. Typical conservative distortion

Fox Hypes Cherry-Picked Data To Attack Seattle Minimum Wage Research Media Matters for America

lol, so you post from Mediamatters. why would they even need to comment? I mean they are worried over Fox Hypes something. SERIOUSLY. When an business is FORCED to pay a higher wage they have to make it up somewhere. so they either RAISE their prices or LET go of workers. easy enough a grade school kid would recognize that

 

[Manonthestreet]

Notice how libs want to decide what jobs are worth having, and what insurance is worth having........and if yours doesnt match why you should be shut down......never mind I bet a lot wait staff are making more now than they will under this.

 

[Papageorgio]

Notice how libs want to decide what jobs are worth having, and what insurance is worth having........and if yours doesnt match why you should be shut down......never mind I bet a lot wait staff are making more now than they will under this.

Remember they were all over restaurant workers getting $15 an hour and now... Compassionate liberals don't exist.

 

[HUGGY]

well well. YOU were warned. so now go beg your Commie government to take care of you. Of course it won't be THEIR MONIES

SNIP;
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REPORT: Seattle Restaurants Suffer Worse Job Loss Since The Great Recession

Connor D. Wolf
Contributor


12:03 PM 08/10/2015
According to a report released Sunday by the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), the $15 minimum wage has caused Seattle restaurants to lose 1,000 jobs — the worst decline since the 2009 Great Recession.

“The loss of 1,000 restaurant jobs in May following the minimum wage increase in April was the largest one month job decline since a 1,300 drop in January 2009, again during the Great Recession,” AEI Scholar Mark J. Perry noted in the report.

The citywide minimum wage increase was passed in June of last year. The measure is designed to increase the city minimum wage gradually to $15 an hour by 2017. The first increase under the plan was to $11 an hour in April. According to the report, Seattle restaurants have already faced severe consequences as a result. In contrast, in the six years since the 2009 financial crisis, the industry has been recovering in areas without the $15 minimum wage.

“Restaurant employment nationally increased by 130,700 jobs (and by 1.2%) during that same period,” the report also noted. “Restaurant employment in Washington increased 3.2% and by 2,800 jobs.”


Supporters of the $15 minimum wage often argue it will help the poor and stimulate economic activity. Opponents, however, argue such policies will actually hurt the poor by limiting job opportunities. How little or how much of either outcome usually depends on the study. Nevertheless, even the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) agrees at least some job loss is expected.

all of it here:
Why Did Seattle Restaurants Lose 1 000 Jobs Report Blames The Minimum Wage The Daily Caller

I live in Seattle and one of my closest female friends manages a very popular pizza/pasta restaurant. Yes it is true that there is a lot of turnover recently in minimum wage employees. The above story omits something very important though. It seems to present a case that the restaurant owners and managers have had to fire over 1,000 employees over the new minimum wage. That is a big fat lie!

The TRUTH is that most of the turnover is because of the minimum wage employees ARE QUITTING in search of more suitable or desirable employment in this highly volatile employment market at this time. Now that the pay is more desirable in general people are exploring getting employment in areas they previously found interesting but not paying enough money.

It IS NOT TRUE that employers are firing minimum wage workers right and left over the minimum wage. I'm sure that the author of the piece the OP has cherry picked is well aware of the truth but as RWers are they have no problem lying to prove a point that on it's own does not exist supported by the facts.

I know of no pizza restaurant that has gone out of business just because they have to pay the higher minimum wage. One of my best friends drives pizza delivery and lately he has been busier than ever. People HAVE NOT stopped buying pizza in Seattle. It still takes the same amount of people to run the restaurants.

What HAS happened is that several thousand people have a lot more disposable income to spend in the city. In the last few years the min wage has gone from around $7 to $15. That's $8 X 40 X 52. That's several thousand people spending over $15,000 a year MORE in the city. That's 30-50 million more dollars in circulation a year more than a few years ago.

THAT IS THE TRUTH!

So you have no facts just one manager and your opinion.

I didn't know I had to handicap your replies as for someone with a reading and comprehension disability.

One of my close friends and business partners is the original franchise owner and distributor for the Romios pizza chain some 30 stores.in 4 states. I know the original owner of the another chain the name escapes me at the moment. I know and work with the owner of the 125th st grill and bar on a daily basis. My gal pal manages the downtown Romios location. My good friend Gary used to own the Magnolia location of Romios that has closed because Gary just got tired of the business. I worked closely with him for several years. Gary and I have worked together on several non restaurant projects. I also repaired and overhauled several pizza ovens and related restaurant machinery and mechanical items.

I hope that makes my knowledge and experience more clear.

 

[Skull Pilot]

funny nobody ever really delved into what the avg waitress makes....... especially at the finer dining establishments.......bet they get screwed by the deal thats supposed to save em

you make two and change an hour... get no paid sick time... and sometimes have to share tips with busboys, etc.

I think you should work for two and change an hour

I waited tables and tended bar for a few years and I averaged well over even after tipping out the bus boys and bar backs.

During the holidays the money was even better.

I'm sure the same applies today.

And if tips go away as they are in some establishments......

And they will

I'm not likely to tip if a server is making 15 an hour.

 

[charwin95]

funny nobody ever really delved into what the avg waitress makes....... especially at the finer dining establishments.......bet they get screwed by the deal thats supposed to save em

you make two and change an hour... get no paid sick time... and sometimes have to share tips with busboys, etc.

I think you should work for two and change an hour

I waited tables and tended bar for a few years and I averaged well over even after tipping out the bus boys and bar backs.

During the holidays the money was even better.

I'm sure the same applies today.

And if tips go away as they are in some establishments......

And they will

I'm not likely to tip if a server is making 15 an hour.

Why do you care how much waiter make? You are cheap and probably never give tips to begin with. So why give a tip now.
In reality at the end of the shift they make far more than $20. a day. I'm only talking about my relatives that own 2 restaurants in Seattle. I'm sure there are lots of others like that.

 

[charwin95]

So lets look at the result of this minimum wage increase. Over a THOUSAND restaurant employees lost their jobs in a single month (with even more to come next month), and since restaurants are now understaffed, it will take forever for your table to be served food.

Who are the winners in this?

The workers who can finally survive?

But since this is the Daily Caller and the American Enterprise Institute, I am not surprised by the spin. Many restaurants are doing just fine.

In fact, they ignored the job gains in July. Typical conservative distortion

Fox Hypes Cherry-Picked Data To Attack Seattle Minimum Wage Research Media Matters for America

lol, so you post from Mediamatters. why would they even need to comment? I mean they are worried over Fox Hypes something. SERIOUSLY. When an business is FORCED to pay a higher wage they have to make it up somewhere. so they either RAISE their prices or LET go of workers. easy enough a grade school kid would recognize that

Stuph, If you pull your head out from Fox News butt hole maybe you will have some minor common sense. Fox tells you the truth of technicality but not the truth of reality.
Of course these establishments raise their prices. That is common sense.
Per your link AEI lost of 1,000 jobs. LOL. There's no meat in it. At least mentioned few of these places that fired people because MW hike to make it credible.

So let me repeat again what I've been asking for last 4 months. GIVE me a name of any establishments that closes or lost money because of MW increase. Anyone PLEASE.

 

[Papageorgio]

well well. YOU were warned. so now go beg your Commie government to take care of you. Of course it won't be THEIR MONIES

SNIP;
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Business
REPORT: Seattle Restaurants Suffer Worse Job Loss Since The Great Recession

Connor D. Wolf
Contributor


12:03 PM 08/10/2015
According to a report released Sunday by the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), the $15 minimum wage has caused Seattle restaurants to lose 1,000 jobs — the worst decline since the 2009 Great Recession.

“The loss of 1,000 restaurant jobs in May following the minimum wage increase in April was the largest one month job decline since a 1,300 drop in January 2009, again during the Great Recession,” AEI Scholar Mark J. Perry noted in the report.

The citywide minimum wage increase was passed in June of last year. The measure is designed to increase the city minimum wage gradually to $15 an hour by 2017. The first increase under the plan was to $11 an hour in April. According to the report, Seattle restaurants have already faced severe consequences as a result. In contrast, in the six years since the 2009 financial crisis, the industry has been recovering in areas without the $15 minimum wage.

“Restaurant employment nationally increased by 130,700 jobs (and by 1.2%) during that same period,” the report also noted. “Restaurant employment in Washington increased 3.2% and by 2,800 jobs.”


Supporters of the $15 minimum wage often argue it will help the poor and stimulate economic activity. Opponents, however, argue such policies will actually hurt the poor by limiting job opportunities. How little or how much of either outcome usually depends on the study. Nevertheless, even the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) agrees at least some job loss is expected.

all of it here:
Why Did Seattle Restaurants Lose 1 000 Jobs Report Blames The Minimum Wage The Daily Caller

I live in Seattle and one of my closest female friends manages a very popular pizza/pasta restaurant. Yes it is true that there is a lot of turnover recently in minimum wage employees. The above story omits something very important though. It seems to present a case that the restaurant owners and managers have had to fire over 1,000 employees over the new minimum wage. That is a big fat lie!

The TRUTH is that most of the turnover is because of the minimum wage employees ARE QUITTING in search of more suitable or desirable employment in this highly volatile employment market at this time. Now that the pay is more desirable in general people are exploring getting employment in areas they previously found interesting but not paying enough money.

It IS NOT TRUE that employers are firing minimum wage workers right and left over the minimum wage. I'm sure that the author of the piece the OP has cherry picked is well aware of the truth but as RWers are they have no problem lying to prove a point that on it's own does not exist supported by the facts.

I know of no pizza restaurant that has gone out of business just because they have to pay the higher minimum wage. One of my best friends drives pizza delivery and lately he has been busier than ever. People HAVE NOT stopped buying pizza in Seattle. It still takes the same amount of people to run the restaurants.

What HAS happened is that several thousand people have a lot more disposable income to spend in the city. In the last few years the min wage has gone from around $7 to $15. That's $8 X 40 X 52. That's several thousand people spending over $15,000 a year MORE in the city. That's 30-50 million more dollars in circulation a year more than a few years ago.

THAT IS THE TRUTH!

So you have no facts just one manager and your opinion.

I didn't know I had to handicap your replies as for someone with a reading and comprehension disability.

One of my close friends and business partners is the original franchise owner and distributor for the Romios pizza chain some 30 stores.in 4 states. I know the original owner of the another chain the name escapes me at the moment. I know and work with the owner of the 125th st grill and bar on a daily basis. My gal pal manages the downtown Romios location. My good friend Gary used to own the Magnolia location of Romios that has closed because Gary just got tired of the business. I worked closely with him for several years. Gary and I have worked together on several non restaurant projects. I also repaired and overhauled several pizza ovens and related restaurant machinery and mechanical items.

I hope that makes my knowledge and experience more clear.

What disability? It is apparent that you have the handicap of not knowing what you wrote. You gave yourself and one manager in Seattle as a reference. That was it.

 

[Manonthestreet]

funny nobody ever really delved into what the avg waitress makes....... especially at the finer dining establishments.......bet they get screwed by the deal thats supposed to save em

you make two and change an hour... get no paid sick time... and sometimes have to share tips with busboys, etc.

I think you should work for two and change an hour

I waited tables and tended bar for a few years and I averaged well over even after tipping out the bus boys and bar backs.

During the holidays the money was even better.

I'm sure the same applies today.

And if tips go away as they are in some establishments......

And they will

I'm not likely to tip if a server is making 15 an hour.

Why do you care how much waiter make? You are cheap and probably never give tips to begin with. So why give a tip now.
In reality at the end of the shift they make far more than $20. a day. I'm only talking about my relatives that own 2 restaurants in Seattle. I'm sure there are lots of others like that.

So you admit this will screw them over.,...champions of the workers my ass

 

[charwin95]

Notice how libs want to decide what jobs are worth having, and what insurance is worth having........and if yours doesnt match why you should be shut down......never mind I bet a lot wait staff are making more now than they will under this.

Do you notice how rwingers doesn't do anything then complain about everything. Do you notice rwingers serve the best interest of their party but not the interest of their country. Do you notice rwingers are so sick with GOPs and nothing gets done is the reason why Trump is soaring.

 

[charwin95]

you make two and change an hour... get no paid sick time... and sometimes have to share tips with busboys, etc.

I think you should work for two and change an hour

I waited tables and tended bar for a few years and I averaged well over even after tipping out the bus boys and bar backs.

During the holidays the money was even better.

I'm sure the same applies today.

And if tips go away as they are in some establishments......

And they will

I'm not likely to tip if a server is making 15 an hour.

Why do you care how much waiter make? You are cheap and probably never give tips to begin with. So why give a tip now.
In reality at the end of the shift they make far more than $20. a day. I'm only talking about my relatives that own 2 restaurants in Seattle. I'm sure there are lots of others like that.

So you admit this will screw them over.,...champions of the workers my ass

Humor me with your anecdotal minimum brain mano.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Notice how libs want to decide what jobs are worth having, and what insurance is worth having........and if yours doesnt match why you should be shut down......never mind I bet a lot wait staff are making more now than they will under this.

Do you notice how rwingers doesn't do anything then complain about everything. Do you notice rwingers serve the best interest of their party but not the interest of their country. Do you notice rwingers are so sick with GOPs and nothing gets done is the reason why Trump is soaring.

Rrrriiiighhhhtttt see ya can't answer how making less is better

 

[charwin95]

Notice how libs want to decide what jobs are worth having, and what insurance is worth having........and if yours doesnt match why you should be shut down......never mind I bet a lot wait staff are making more now than they will under this.

Do you notice how rwingers doesn't do anything then complain about everything. Do you notice rwingers serve the best interest of their party but not the interest of their country. Do you notice rwingers are so sick with GOPs and nothing gets done is the reason why Trump is soaring.

Rrrriiiighhhhtttt see ya can't answer how making less is better

Since when or where that making less is better. Keep trying Mano. You might impressed me.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Since that is the effect of the policy.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Notice how libs want to decide what jobs are worth having, and what insurance is worth having........and if yours doesnt match why you should be shut down......never mind I bet a lot wait staff are making more now than they will under this.

Do you notice how rwingers doesn't do anything then complain about everything. Do you notice rwingers serve the best interest of their party but not the interest of their country. Do you notice rwingers are so sick with GOPs and nothing gets done is the reason why Trump is soaring.

We live in reality...

You live in a fantasy land, of wizards and unicorns farting dollars out its ass

Its clearly you don't know math , profit margins or economics.