ReillyT
Senior Member
ReillyT: "First, I am pointing at Republican hypocrites because they are hypocrites, and their actions call into question their message, which I find asinine to begin with. So you see, I question them and their policy. "
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oh well, THAT sure is a unique perspective. Gee, tex, you think that anyone on the right feels exactly the same way about your parties message? no? YOU are the sole bearer of of that flame, eh dude?
Of course that there are people that think the democratic party's message is foolish. That's cool. It is good for everyone that they voice this opinion.
ReillyT: "You are right, policy can be a reflection of political base. However, for a person with integrity, the political base shouldn't overwhelm personal belief. When one identifies such a circumstance, one has identified a person lacking integrity. This happens to be important to know when one is talking about elected leaders."
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HAHA!
Lemme guess.. YOUR side is the ones with all that integrity, eh? hehehehe.
yet, when you find yourself having your ass handed to you because some liberal fucks up....
No, there is integrity (and a lack thereof) on both sides of the aisle. I have never claimed otherwise. This is not an issue of political parties. We both have our share of bad apples. When a liberal fucks up, it is and should be newsworthy.
ReillyT: "With respect to homosexuality, the Phelps family aside, conservative republicans and I won't agree on a whole hell of a lot."
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That's too bad for you. It's nice to see that you are willing to keep that tolorant mind of yours open!
There is nothing wrong with acknowledging that two views are diametrically opposed. Sometimes there is no common ground. It has nothing to do with being tolerant. I am tolerant about some things (sexual orientation, for instance) and intolerant of others (racism, for instance).
ReillyT: "Of course, their views are informed by and erected upon a certain set of moral beliefs. Therefore, it is interesting when one finds that these moral beliefs are in fact a charade."
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HA!
yea, THEIRS are a charade while YOURS is the word of... good grief, are you even listening to yourself at this point?.
Craig's beliefs appear to be a charade, because what he does and what he says are incongruous. I was never referring to conservatives in general.
As for my moral beliefs, they are just my moral beliefs. Do I think that they are a better set of moral beliefs than many conservative republicans? Sure I do. Otherwise, I would hold their beliefs instead of my own. Do I expect them to feel the same way? Of course. Otherwise, they would hold my beliefs instead of their own.
ReillyT: "Why would you ever think that pointing out hypocrisy is off-limits? What real purpose does turning a blind eye to those of questionable integrity serve?"
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a BLIND eye? what, is it a shocker to you to find out that there are gay republicans who vote against gay issues? For real, is this your first day venturing into the world of American politics? You haven't discovered atlantis with this story. Sorry to break it to you. But hey, at least you are showing how tolorant the supporters of dems can be! This was nothing more than "gotcha politics" that you'd be crying about if applied to your side.. not to mention jumping on the bandwagon when Gunny was on the hotspot.
First, I really don't understand what tolerance has to do with any of this.
I wouldn't be upset if the tables were reversed in this case. I can't be anymore more clear than this: It is good to point out hypocrisy, regardless of the political party involved.
With regard to Bill Clinton (which you mentioned earlier), I don't know what you want me to say. He lied with respect to Monica Lewinsky. Everyone acknowledges that. I don't deny it.
I have no idea what you are talking about with regard to Gunny.