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There is no indication yet that it would endanger Israel or threaten the world or the US.
A 10 year sunset clause most certainly would.
Depends on exactly what is in the agreement and no, even then - it could just mean back to another set of sanctions or negotiations. A nuclear bomb isn't going to spring forth like Athena from the head of Zeus at the end of ten years.
Iran called the letter propaganda. That must be so embarrassing for the signatories.
There is no "constitutional overreach". What he is doing is perfectly legit and has been done by every president before him.
Iran is not insane. Israel has it's own set of nukes as do it's allies.
Yes, yes deary... and taking the life of the child in your womb is not murder, if that child truly IS an inconvenience... and paying people to not work, actually improves the likelihood that they'll look for and accept a job, just as no 30 year old pot head lives in their parents basement, because they're all highly functioning individuals earning extremely large incomes, doing incredibly complex things... and perverse reasoning which induces one to act upon sexual urges which deviate 180 degrees from the human physiological standard, is perfectly normal... .
I understand... .
There is no indication yet that it would endanger Israel or threaten the world or the US.
A 10 year sunset clause most certainly would.
Depends on exactly what is in the agreement and no, even then - it could just mean back to another set of sanctions or negotiations. A nuclear bomb isn't going to spring forth like Athena from the head of Zeus at the end of ten years.
I notice how so many people want to put wings and a halo on this deal and call it glorious, but it simply isn't. This deal is being negotiated without input from Israel, therefore whatever is being discussed is not in the best interests of Israel. All Iran needs to do is stonewall and play nice until they have enough centrifuges to make a bomb. They are already 1/4th of the way there.
There is no indication yet that it would endanger Israel or threaten the world or the US.
A 10 year sunset clause most certainly would.
Depends on exactly what is in the agreement and no, even then - it could just mean back to another set of sanctions or negotiations. A nuclear bomb isn't going to spring forth like Athena from the head of Zeus at the end of ten years.
I notice how so many people want to put wings and a halo on this deal and call it glorious, but it simply isn't. This deal is being negotiated without input from Israel, therefore whatever is being discussed is not in the best interests of Israel. All Iran needs to do is stonewall and play nice until they have enough centrifuges to make a bomb. They are already 1/4th of the way there.
Papa Obama has the right to conduct as long as he stays within the bounds of American law;
But, we all know he is trying to put in effect a defacto treaty and end run around congress,
Why, not ... he has taken rather constitutional actions already with the executive branch
If he wants to bind future Presidents and Congresses, then the legislative branch should weighs in on the matter.
There is no "constitutional overreach". What he is doing is perfectly legit and has been done by every president before him.
Edited to add: Consider the SALT talks: Strategic Arms Limitation Talks SALT Encyclopedia Britannica
Most of those agreements were executive agreements eventually leading to the ABM Treaty.
...The Interim Agreement froze each side’s number of ICBMs and submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBMs) at current levels for five years, pending negotiation of a more detailed SALT II. As an executive agreement, it did not require U.S. Senate ratification, but it was approved by Congress in a joint resolution
The agreements being negotiated with Iran are similar. Neither side can get everything they want but if they put a freeze on it for ten years, they can buy time to negotiate something more permenant.
There is no indication yet that it would endanger Israel or threaten the world or the US.
A 10 year sunset clause most certainly would.
Depends on exactly what is in the agreement and no, even then - it could just mean back to another set of sanctions or negotiations. A nuclear bomb isn't going to spring forth like Athena from the head of Zeus at the end of ten years.
I notice how so many people want to put wings and a halo on this deal and call it glorious, but it simply isn't. This deal is being negotiated without input from Israel, therefore whatever is being discussed is not in the best interests of Israel. All Iran needs to do is stonewall and play nice until they have enough centrifuges to make a bomb. They are already 1/4th of the way there.
There is no "constitutional overreach". What he is doing is perfectly legit and has been done by every president before him.
So every President has done everything within their means to promote the interests of the enemy of United States, without tipping their hand that they're actually doing so... ?
Now setting aside the obvious example of William The Bubba... would ya have an example or two?
There is no "constitutional overreach". What he is doing is perfectly legit and has been done by every president before him.
Edited to add: Consider the SALT talks: Strategic Arms Limitation Talks SALT Encyclopedia Britannica
Most of those agreements were executive agreements eventually leading to the ABM Treaty.
...The Interim Agreement froze each side’s number of ICBMs and submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBMs) at current levels for five years, pending negotiation of a more detailed SALT II. As an executive agreement, it did not require U.S. Senate ratification, but it was approved by Congress in a joint resolution
The agreements being negotiated with Iran are similar. Neither side can get everything they want but if they put a freeze on it for ten years, they can buy time to negotiate something more permenant.
There is no indication yet that it would endanger Israel or threaten the world or the US.
A 10 year sunset clause most certainly would.
Depends on exactly what is in the agreement and no, even then - it could just mean back to another set of sanctions or negotiations. A nuclear bomb isn't going to spring forth like Athena from the head of Zeus at the end of ten years.
I notice how so many people want to put wings and a halo on this deal and call it glorious, but it simply isn't. This deal is being negotiated without input from Israel, therefore whatever is being discussed is not in the best interests of Israel. All Iran needs to do is stonewall and play nice until they have enough centrifuges to make a bomb. They are already 1/4th of the way there.
It also requires one to believe that Papa Obama is a good judge of character
That could be a hard sell
Israel's interests don't trump the rest of the worlds - particularly since Israel is a nuclear power that has refused to sign the NPT.
Israel's interests don't trump the rest of the worlds - particularly since Israel is a nuclear power that has refused to sign the NPT.
Sure, but when Iran threatens to wipe you from the face of the Earth, it won't matter who has second strike capability and who doesn't. One nuke ends Israel forever. It won't matter who signed the NPT. Israel will get the blunt end of this deal.
Papa Obama has the right to conduct as long as he stays within the bounds of American law;
But, we all know he is trying to put in effect a defacto treaty and end run around congress,
Why, not ... he has taken rather constitutional actions already with the executive branch
If he wants to bind future Presidents and Congresses, then the legislative branch should weighs in on the matter.
Wow. Suddenly, now, it matters? Never did before did it?
Israel's interests don't trump the rest of the worlds - particularly since Israel is a nuclear power that has refused to sign the NPT.
Sure, but when Iran threatens to wipe you from the face of the Earth, it won't matter who has second strike capability and who doesn't. One nuke ends Israel forever. It won't matter who signed the NPT. Israel will get the blunt end of this deal.
Israel's interests don't trump the rest of the worlds - particularly since Israel is a nuclear power that has refused to sign the NPT.
Sure, but when Iran threatens to wipe you from the face of the Earth, it won't matter who has second strike capability and who doesn't. One nuke ends Israel forever. It won't matter who signed the NPT. Israel will get the blunt end of this deal.
If it comes to that - everyone will get the blunt end of the deal because Israel will strike back and then everyone will go nuts.
But Iran is not insane. It wants to be a major regional player but it does not want to destroy itself.
Israel's interests don't trump the rest of the worlds - particularly since Israel is a nuclear power that has refused to sign the NPT.
Sure, but when Iran threatens to wipe you from the face of the Earth, it won't matter who has second strike capability and who doesn't. One nuke ends Israel forever. It won't matter who signed the NPT. Israel will get the blunt end of this deal.
If it comes to that - everyone will get the blunt end of the deal because Israel will strike back and then everyone will go nuts.
But Iran is not insane. It wants to be a major regional player but it does not want to destroy itself.
What people don't seem to grasp is that there will be no Isreal if Iran nukes them. Israel won't be there to strike back.
Israel's interests don't trump the rest of the worlds - particularly since Israel is a nuclear power that has refused to sign the NPT.
Sure, but when Iran threatens to wipe you from the face of the Earth, it won't matter who has second strike capability and who doesn't. One nuke ends Israel forever. It won't matter who signed the NPT. Israel will get the blunt end of this deal.
Iran is not suicidal - they're not going to "nuke Israel", and even if they did, "one nuke" won't come close to ending Israel forever.
Israel has second-strike capability, both from ground silos and from submarines. A nuclear attack on Israel would guarantee an automatic nuclear response against Iran.
Israel's nukes are modern thermonuclear fusion bombs - "H-bombs" - which are magnitudes more powerful than anything Iran is close to building. Not to mention the other 3 nuclear powers within 200 miles of Iran.
Israel's interests don't trump the rest of the worlds - particularly since Israel is a nuclear power that has refused to sign the NPT.
Sure, but when Iran threatens to wipe you from the face of the Earth, it won't matter who has second strike capability and who doesn't. One nuke ends Israel forever. It won't matter who signed the NPT. Israel will get the blunt end of this deal.
Iran is not suicidal - they're not going to "nuke Israel", and even if they did, "one nuke" won't come close to ending Israel forever.
Israel has second-strike capability, both from ground silos and from submarines. A nuclear attack on Israel would guarantee an automatic nuclear response against Iran.
Israel's nukes are modern thermonuclear fusion bombs - "H-bombs" - which are magnitudes more powerful than anything Iran is close to building. Not to mention the other 3 nuclear powers within 200 miles of Iran.
If a country behaves in a rational manner,,, your argument might work
Iran, or least it leaders are far from stable and trustworthy.
If a theocracy has a belief that suicidal acts can get one into heaven,
it seems a hard sell to believe they are not at least a bit irrational.
Besides, a nuclear bomb capability is the required "trigger" for a H bomb
so, yeah it is a big thing
