Republicans fall quiet in face of Obama deficit success

[Sallow]

Really. I think you're talking about Reagan, right? Give me some links. Thanks.

It's in the wiki.

United States support for Iraq during the Iran?Iraq war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

President Ronald Reagan initiated a strategic opening to Iraq, signing National Security Study Directive (NSSD) 4-82 and selecting Donald Rumsfeld as his emissary to Hussein, whom he visited in December 1983 and March 1984.[14] According to U.S. ambassador Peter W. Galbraith, far from winning the conflict, "the Reagan administration was afraid Iraq might actually lose."[15]

In 1982, Iraq was removed from a list of State Sponsors of Terrorism to ease the transfer of dual-use technology to that country. According to investigative journalist Alan Friedman, Secretary of State Alexander Haig was "upset at the fact that the decision had been made at the White House, even though the State Department was responsible for the list."[3] "I was not consulted," Haig is said to have complained.

Howard Teicher served on the National Security Council as director of Political-Military Affairs. He accompanied Rumsfeld to Baghdad in 1983.[16] According to his 1995 affidavit and separate interviews with former Reagan and Bush administration officials, the Central Intelligence Agency secretly directed armaments and hi-tech components to Iraq through false fronts and friendly third parties such as Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Kuwait, and they quietly encouraged rogue arms dealers and other private military companies to do the same:

[T]he United States actively supported the Iraqi war effort by supplying the Iraqis with billions of dollars of credits, by providing U.S. military intelligence and advice to the Iraqis, and by closely monitoring third country arms sales to Iraq to make sure that Iraq had the military weaponry required. The United States also provided strategic operational advice to the Iraqis to better use their assets in combat... The CIA, including both CIA Director Casey and Deputy Director Gates, knew of, approved of, and assisted in the sale of non-U.S. origin military weapons, ammunition and vehicles to Iraq. My notes, memoranda and other documents in my NSC files show or tend to show that the CIA knew of, approved of, and assisted in the sale of non-U.S. origin military weapons, munitions and vehicles to Iraq.[17]

Donald Rumsfeld meets Saddām on 19–20 December 1983. Rumsfeld visited again on 24 March 1984, the day the UN reported that Iraq had used mustard gas and tabun nerve agent against Iranian troops. The NY Times reported from Baghdad on 29 March 1984, that "American diplomats pronounce themselves satisfied with Iraq and the U.S., and suggest that normal diplomatic ties have been established in all but name."[14]

The full extent of these covert transfers is not yet known. Teicher's files on the subject are held securely at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library and many other Reagan Era documents that could help shine new light on the subject remain classified. Teicher declined to discuss details of the affidavit with the Washington Post shortly before the 2003 invasion of Iraq.[18]

Blah blah blah...

More leftist psycobabble.

The issue isn't WMD's or anything Hussien had before Desert Strorm, it was the fact he violated the cease fire regularly for 10 years.

Bush cleaned up the problem his daddy left, since he was dumb enough to waste time with the parasitic UN.

That's not even true.

 

[The Rabbi]

Had is the operative word here.

Andfor the most part he ditched them when told too by his US masters.

Thanks for admitting Saddam had WMD when Bush made the decision to go to war.

Well no.

Didn't "admit" any such thing.

In any case..though..the US had a very extensive itinerary in terms of what they "thought" Iraq still had in it's arms cache.

Why do you suppose that?

Well no. You did say that Saddam had WMD. That's the part I bolded. Is English not your native language that you cannot understand yourself?

 

[The Rabbi]

Had is the operative word here.

Andfor the most part he ditched them when told too by his US masters.

Thanks for admitting Saddam had WMD when Bush made the decision to go to war.

Are you talking about George HW Bush? You're right if so, but the question stands on did he have them under George W Bush.

Actually the question is, Was it reasonable to assume that he had them and had programs in place to develop more and better weapons?
And the answer is Yes. Because everyone else believed that too.

 

[depotoo]

How much for this quarter is due to sequestration? What happens when spending increases again?
Will the payments from Freddie and Fannie continue to make a big difference which is a big part of this?

2007 the deficit was at 39% of GDP. Today is is still over 70% GDP. It is also projected that this is going to grow even more within the next decade.

Anything is better than nothing, but this anything is obviously not nearly good enough.
Bravo.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I don't believe Afghanistan was based on lies. It was based on the Taliban not giving up Al queada after 9-11.

Say what you will about Iraq.

Neither was based on lies. Bin Laden operated out of Afghanistan until we went in there, and Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons against the Kurds and the Iranians. Syria most likely has them now.

Which was actually ENCOURAGED by the United States.

And..the United States, provided Iraq with the Chemical Weapons that were used.

There was NO reason, none to attack Iraq.

There was NO question that Iraq was a legitmate threat, until it became clear that GWB was willing to do something about it.

 

[francoHFW]

Of course Saddam had WMDs, Reagan helped him with Chemical and biological ones, didn't make a peep when he used them. The problem is all the talk of mushroom clouds when he had NO CHANCE of making a bomb. Total bs in a tidal wave of war mongering we'll be paying for for years- millions of jihadists....

 

[buckeye45_73]

Oh my, the deficit reduced $800 Billion under Obama ... more than predicted.
My comment ^^
Rachel Maddow Show

you're measuring against predictions? HUH?

What about real money?

Hell I could predict it was supposed to be $20 trillion and low and behold it's $19 trillion short.

The new estimate? are you serious....tell me what the ACTUAL deficit is

 

[Intense]

Deficit Success? U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

 

[JQPublic1]

YOU don't show the article because LIKE MADOW you aren't telling the whole f...king truth!
You and your ilk are so ignorant about the concept of "DEFICIT"!!!

"The CBO projects a $642 billion budget deficit for fiscal year 2013,
down more than $200 billion from its February estimate and the smallest annual shortfall since 2008.
It is the lowest level of deficit spending to date under President Obama, who faced $1 trillion or more in annual deficits during his first term.

NOW HERE ARE THE DEFICITS under BUSH!!!
Historical Tables | The White House
Federal receipts 2000
$2.025 trillion
Outlays
$1.788 trillion outlays
$0.236 trillion deficit

Federal receipts 2001
$1.991 trillion
Outlays
$1.862 trillion outlays
$0.128 trillion deficit

Federal receipts 2002
$1.853 trillion
Outlays
$2.010 trillion outlays
$0.157 trillion deficit

Federal receipts 2003
$1.782 trillion
Outlays
$2.159 trillion outlays
$0.377 trillion deficit

Federal receipts 2004
$1.880 trillion
Outlays
$2.292 trillion outlays
$0.412 trillion deficit

Federal receipts 2005
$2.153 trillion
Outlays
$2.471 trillion outlays
$0.318 trillion deficit

Federal receipts 2006
$2.406 trillion
Outlays
$2.655 trillion outlays
$0.248 trillion deficit

Federal receipts 2007
$2.567 trillion
Outlays
$2.728 trillion outlays
$0.160 trillion deficit

Federal receipts 2008
$2.523 trillion
Outlays
$2.982 trillion outlays
$0.458 trillion deficit

Federal receipts 2009
$2.104 trillion
Outlays
$3.517 trillion outlays
$1.412 trillion deficit

Federal receipts 2010
$2.162 trillion
Outlays
$3.457 trillion outlays
$1.294 trillion deficit

Federal receipts 2011
$2.303 trillion
Outlays
$3.603 trillion outlays
$1.299 trillion deficit

Federal receipts 2012
$2.450 trillion
Outlays
$3.537 trillion outlays
$1.086 trillion deficit

WHERE UNDER BUSH was there EVER a Trillion deficit!!!!!

Its right there under your nose sucka

Federal receipts 2009
$2.104 trillion
Outlays
$3.517 trillion outlays
$1.412 trillion deficit

Obama's budget really didn't start until October of 2009 that's when fiscal yr 2010 started. I'm beginning to wonder do you know the difference between the national debt and the national deficit? n

Obama signed the FY2009 budget in March of 2009.
FY2009 deficit belings to Him.

You guys just don't know when to quit do you? First, one of you losers did not know that
12 zeros are trillions. Yet, you want to engage in intelligent conversation. Then you come up with this farce saying that Obama signed the FY2009 budget. Where did you go to school, Appalachian High?

EDITORIAL | DECONSTRUCTION How the Deficit Got This Big

With President Obama and Republican leaders calling for cutting the budget by trillions over the next 10 years, it is worth asking how we got here — from healthy surpluses at the end of the Clinton era, and the promise of future surpluses, to nine straight years of deficits, including the $1.3 trillion shortfall in 2010. The answer is largely the Bush-era tax cuts, war spending in Iraq and Afghanistan, and recessions.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24sun4.html?_r=0

 

[ScienceRocks]

Of course Saddam had WMDs, Reagan helped him with Chemical and biological ones, didn't make a peep when he used them. The problem is all the talk of mushroom clouds when he had NO CHANCE of making a bomb. Total bs in a tidal wave of war mongering we'll be paying for for years- millions of jihadists....

1. Yes Reagan helped Saddam.
2. Both parties and Clinton made peeps as they had a no fly zone over Iraq during the 1990's.
3. Well, I'm starting to wish we'd just construct a wall around our nation.

 

[Avorysuds]

how is that possible when the FED will dump near 1 trillion alone on the Banker/Markets alone?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Oh my, the deficit reduced $800 Billion under Obama ... more than predicted.
My comment ^^
Rachel Maddow Show

you're measuring against predictions? HUH?

What about real money?

Hell I could predict it was supposed to be $20 trillion and low and behold it's $19 trillion short.

The new estimate? are you serious....tell me what the ACTUAL deficit is

It sucks that we're heading towards 20 trillion in debt as we fall behind the rest of the first world. Behind in science, technology and infrastructure.

 

[ScienceRocks]

how is that possible when the FED will dump near 1 trillion alone on the Banker/Markets alone?

Doesn't make sense.

 

[jasonnfree]

Oh my, the deficit reduced $800 Billion under Obama ... more than predicted.
My comment ^^
Rachel Maddow Show

I'll bet this got them off their bar stools and on to the computer.

 

[JQPublic1]

Of course Saddam had WMDs, Reagan helped him with Chemical and biological ones, didn't make a peep when he used them. The problem is all the talk of mushroom clouds when he had NO CHANCE of making a bomb. Total bs in a tidal wave of war mongering we'll be paying for for years- millions of jihadists....

I am in total agreement. In fact, the only WMDs that threatened world peace and tranquility at the time were Bush's Words of Mass Deception. Even the Europeans, using their own intelligence sources, knew that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction. Subsequently some, if not all, refused to be sucked into George Bush's diabolical games.

 

[Sallow]

Thanks for admitting Saddam had WMD when Bush made the decision to go to war.

Well no.

Didn't "admit" any such thing.

In any case..though..the US had a very extensive itinerary in terms of what they "thought" Iraq still had in it's arms cache.

Why do you suppose that?

Well no. You did say that Saddam had WMD. That's the part I bolded. Is English not your native language that you cannot understand yourself?

Well actually it is.

Doesn't seem to be yours.

"Had" is past tense.

 

[Zoom-boing]

Get back to me when Barry leaves office.

Lets see what his figures look like then. Don't forget we have the ACA coming down the road in 2014. How much did the CBO say that little gem was gonna cost??

Here's a clue.

Part of the reason for the fall of the deficit.

Is the ACA!

Excuse me while I stand over here and LMAO.

That little Gem is gonna cost how many billiion??

You think its cost is gonna lower the cost anything??

Its got 21 tax hikes built into it.

Billion? That is so, like, last year.

When President Obama was selling his health care legislation to Congress, he declared that “the plan I’m proposing will cost around $900 billion over 10 years.”

But with the law’s major provisions set to kick in next year, a new analysis by the Congressional Budget Office projects that the law will cost double that, or $1.8 trillion.

That’s trillion with a “T.”*

CBO: Obamacare in its First Decade Will Cost Double What the President Promised | TheBlaze.com

 

[depotoo]

Of course Saddam had WMDs, Reagan helped him with Chemical and biological ones, didn't make a peep when he used them. The problem is all the talk of mushroom clouds when he had NO CHANCE of making a bomb. Total bs in a tidal wave of war mongering we'll be paying for for years- millions of jihadists....

I am in total agreement. In fact, the only WMDs that threatened world peace and tranquility at the time were Bush's Words of Mass Deception. Even the Europeans, using their own intelligence sources, knew that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction. Subsequently some, if not all, refused to be sucked into George Bush's diabolical games.

Too bad CLinton, Kerry, et al seemed to think it was enough of a threat as to make policy to get rid of him.

We began with this basic proposition: Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to develop nuclear arms, poison gas, biological weapons, or the means to deliver them. He has used such weapons before against soldiers and civilians, including his own people. We have no doubt that if left unchecked he would do so again... So long as Saddam remains in power he will remain a threat to his people, his region and the world. With our allies, we must pursue a strategy to contain him and to constrain his weapons of mass destruction program, while working toward the day Iraq has a government willing to live at peace with its people and with its neighbors."

President Clinton
The White House
December 19, 1998

Meeting the threat posed by Saddam Hussein and protecting U.S. interests in the Persian Gulf has been a high priority of President Clinton's Administration. The Administration has pursued a policy towards Iraq that rests on three pillars: containment of Saddam Hussein to prevent him from rebuilding his weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programs or threatening his neighbors; humanitarian relief for the Iraqi people to minimize their suffering at the hands of Saddam Hussein; and supporting regime change to remove Saddam Hussein from power so that Iraq and its neighbors can live in peace. This policy has successfully prevented Saddam Hussein from again attacking his neighbors as he did during the Persian Gulf War and increased pressure on his regime through international isolation. The Clinton Administration remains committed to working with U.S. allies to maintain the United Nations Security Council sanctions on Iraq, while looking to a future with a new Iraqi leadership, where the United States and its allies can support the removal of sanctions and offer assistance to bring Iraq back into the family of nations.

CONTAINING SADDAM HUSSEIN'S IRAQ

 

[Sallow]

Oh my, the deficit reduced $800 Billion under Obama ... more than predicted.
My comment ^^
Rachel Maddow Show

you're measuring against predictions? HUH?

What about real money?

Hell I could predict it was supposed to be $20 trillion and low and behold it's $19 trillion short.

The new estimate? are you serious....tell me what the ACTUAL deficit is

It's zero.

There is no deficit or debt.

See how easy that is?

 

[Sallow]

Of course Saddam had WMDs, Reagan helped him with Chemical and biological ones, didn't make a peep when he used them. The problem is all the talk of mushroom clouds when he had NO CHANCE of making a bomb. Total bs in a tidal wave of war mongering we'll be paying for for years- millions of jihadists....

I am in total agreement. In fact, the only WMDs that threatened world peace and tranquility at the time were Bush's Words of Mass Deception. Even the Europeans, using their own intelligence sources, knew that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction. Subsequently some, if not all, refused to be sucked into George Bush's diabolical games.

Too bad CLinton, Kerry, et al seemed to think it was enough of a threat as to make policy to get rid of him.

We began with this basic proposition: Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to develop nuclear arms, poison gas, biological weapons, or the means to deliver them. He has used such weapons before against soldiers and civilians, including his own people. We have no doubt that if left unchecked he would do so again... So long as Saddam remains in power he will remain a threat to his people, his region and the world. With our allies, we must pursue a strategy to contain him and to constrain his weapons of mass destruction program, while working toward the day Iraq has a government willing to live at peace with its people and with its neighbors."

President Clinton
The White House
December 19, 1998

Meeting the threat posed by Saddam Hussein and protecting U.S. interests in the Persian Gulf has been a high priority of President Clinton's Administration. The Administration has pursued a policy towards Iraq that rests on three pillars: containment of Saddam Hussein to prevent him from rebuilding his weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programs or threatening his neighbors; humanitarian relief for the Iraqi people to minimize their suffering at the hands of Saddam Hussein; and supporting regime change to remove Saddam Hussein from power so that Iraq and its neighbors can live in peace. This policy has successfully prevented Saddam Hussein from again attacking his neighbors as he did during the Persian Gulf War and increased pressure on his regime through international isolation. The Clinton Administration remains committed to working with U.S. allies to maintain the United Nations Security Council sanctions on Iraq, while looking to a future with a new Iraqi leadership, where the United States and its allies can support the removal of sanctions and offer assistance to bring Iraq back into the family of nations.

CONTAINING SADDAM HUSSEIN'S IRAQ

And Clinton never invaded.

Despite the urging of the PNAC..who begged him too.

Then? Bush. And they were in his cabinet.