"Republicans finally admit there is no Benghazi scandal"

[Oldstyle]

Are you two dimwits, Claud and Old School, still carrying on about Benghazi? Don't you two have anything better to do?

What would you like talk about, Carla? Fast & Furious? The IRS scandal? Peter Gruber and the lies that were told to the American people to pass the Affordable Care Act? Trillion dollar a year deficits? Russia invading the Ukraine? North Korea cyber-attacking Sony pictures? Millions more Americans on food stamps? Millions more Americans forced to work part time jobs? The Iranians merrily working away on their nuke? ISIS slaughtering thousands while Barry called them the "JV"? Pick a topic, hon...it's a regular smorgasbord of incompetence with this Administration!

You could start a thread about the IRS scandal that went nowhere, and bitch about it for 118 pages if you want. I'll stop in from time to time to see how you are doing.

The deficit is shrinking. People are on food stamps because wages are stagnant, and the minimum wage needs to be raised....something Obama has little to do with.

Gruber told the truth. American's are stupid.

Russia-Ukraine.....and?

Iran-nukes....we'll be negotiating with Iran until next summer.

ISIS-

U.S. General: Turning Point Against ISIS Will Take At Least 3 Years

The top U.S. general in charge of forces fighting the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria has said it will take a minimum of three years to reach a turning point against the group. Speaking to reporters Thursday, Lt. Gen. James Terry refused to give a more specific timeline.
Lt. Gen. James Terry: "The first strikes were, what, 8 August? And so, this is December. What’s that? Four months. I think we’ve made significant progress in halting that offensive that I talked about, the ability for them to continue to expand, you know, in terms of terrain and geography out there. I think what we must do, especially inside of Iraq, is continue to build those capabilities. I think you’re at least talking a minimum of three years."
This week the Obama administration approved orders for hundreds of U.S. troops to deploy to Iraq as part of a mission to train and advise Iraqi troops.

Headlines for December 19 2014 Democracy Now

If Bush were in charge, he would have attacked Turkey.

If Bush were in charge he wouldn't have let ISIS take control of all of those cities while he diddled himself and called them the JV.

 

[Oldstyle]

So you aren't even disputing that the Obama Administration misled the American people about the Affordable Care Act? That they felt obliged to tell them lies and write the bill in such a confusing manner that the American public WOULDN'T understand what it was that was being done to them?

 

[Carla_Danger]

Are you two dimwits, Claud and Old School, still carrying on about Benghazi? Don't you two have anything better to do?

What would you like talk about, Carla? Fast & Furious? The IRS scandal? Peter Gruber and the lies that were told to the American people to pass the Affordable Care Act? Trillion dollar a year deficits? Russia invading the Ukraine? North Korea cyber-attacking Sony pictures? Millions more Americans on food stamps? Millions more Americans forced to work part time jobs? The Iranians merrily working away on their nuke? ISIS slaughtering thousands while Barry called them the "JV"? Pick a topic, hon...it's a regular smorgasbord of incompetence with this Administration!

You could start a thread about the IRS scandal that went nowhere, and bitch about it for 118 pages if you want. I'll stop in from time to time to see how you are doing.

The deficit is shrinking. People are on food stamps because wages are stagnant, and the minimum wage needs to be raised....something Obama has little to do with.

Gruber told the truth. American's are stupid.

Russia-Ukraine.....and?

Iran-nukes....we'll be negotiating with Iran until next summer.

ISIS-

U.S. General: Turning Point Against ISIS Will Take At Least 3 Years

The top U.S. general in charge of forces fighting the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria has said it will take a minimum of three years to reach a turning point against the group. Speaking to reporters Thursday, Lt. Gen. James Terry refused to give a more specific timeline.
Lt. Gen. James Terry: "The first strikes were, what, 8 August? And so, this is December. What’s that? Four months. I think we’ve made significant progress in halting that offensive that I talked about, the ability for them to continue to expand, you know, in terms of terrain and geography out there. I think what we must do, especially inside of Iraq, is continue to build those capabilities. I think you’re at least talking a minimum of three years."
This week the Obama administration approved orders for hundreds of U.S. troops to deploy to Iraq as part of a mission to train and advise Iraqi troops.

Headlines for December 19 2014 Democracy Now

If Bush were in charge, he would have attacked Turkey.

If Bush were in charge he wouldn't have let ISIS take control of all of those cities while he diddled himself and called them the JV.

Huh....whaaa? We went to Iraq because they were supposed to have WMD's. (the smokin gun, the mushroom cloud) We were supposed to be greeted as liberators, and the oil was supposed to pay for the war.

Aha ha ha ha ha ha!!!

 

[Carla_Danger]

So you aren't even disputing that the Obama Administration misled the American people about the Affordable Care Act? That they felt obliged to tell them lies and write the bill in such a confusing manner that the American public WOULDN'T understand what it was that was being done to them?

The ACA has been available for the American public to read. Why didn't you read it?

Read the Affordable Care Act Health Care Law HealthCare.gov

 

[Faun]

Are you two dimwits, Claud and Old School, still carrying on about Benghazi? Don't you two have anything better to do?

What would you like talk about, Carla? Fast & Furious? The IRS scandal? Peter Gruber and the lies that were told to the American people to pass the Affordable Care Act? Trillion dollar a year deficits? Russia invading the Ukraine? North Korea cyber-attacking Sony pictures? Millions more Americans on food stamps? Millions more Americans forced to work part time jobs? The Iranians merrily working away on their nuke? ISIS slaughtering thousands while Barry called them the "JV"? Pick a topic, hon...it's a regular smorgasbord of incompetence with this Administration!

You could start a thread about the IRS scandal that went nowhere, and bitch about it for 118 pages if you want. I'll stop in from time to time to see how you are doing.

The deficit is shrinking. People are on food stamps because wages are stagnant, and the minimum wage needs to be raised....something Obama has little to do with.

Gruber told the truth. American's are stupid.

Russia-Ukraine.....and?

Iran-nukes....we'll be negotiating with Iran until next summer.

ISIS-

U.S. General: Turning Point Against ISIS Will Take At Least 3 Years

The top U.S. general in charge of forces fighting the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria has said it will take a minimum of three years to reach a turning point against the group. Speaking to reporters Thursday, Lt. Gen. James Terry refused to give a more specific timeline.
Lt. Gen. James Terry: "The first strikes were, what, 8 August? And so, this is December. What’s that? Four months. I think we’ve made significant progress in halting that offensive that I talked about, the ability for them to continue to expand, you know, in terms of terrain and geography out there. I think what we must do, especially inside of Iraq, is continue to build those capabilities. I think you’re at least talking a minimum of three years."
This week the Obama administration approved orders for hundreds of U.S. troops to deploy to Iraq as part of a mission to train and advise Iraqi troops.

Headlines for December 19 2014 Democracy Now

If Bush were in charge, he would have attacked Turkey.

If Bush were in charge he wouldn't have let ISIS take control of all of those cities while he diddled himself and called them the JV.

Seriously? Bush fought that Iraq war for 6 years until he left office for his predecessor to finish. And that was supposed to be a six month war. Where do you get off pretending like Bush was some great commander-in-chief, suddenly capable of winning a war??

 

[Carla_Danger]

Are you two dimwits, Claud and Old School, still carrying on about Benghazi? Don't you two have anything better to do?

What would you like talk about, Carla? Fast & Furious? The IRS scandal? Peter Gruber and the lies that were told to the American people to pass the Affordable Care Act? Trillion dollar a year deficits? Russia invading the Ukraine? North Korea cyber-attacking Sony pictures? Millions more Americans on food stamps? Millions more Americans forced to work part time jobs? The Iranians merrily working away on their nuke? ISIS slaughtering thousands while Barry called them the "JV"? Pick a topic, hon...it's a regular smorgasbord of incompetence with this Administration!

You could start a thread about the IRS scandal that went nowhere, and bitch about it for 118 pages if you want. I'll stop in from time to time to see how you are doing.

The deficit is shrinking. People are on food stamps because wages are stagnant, and the minimum wage needs to be raised....something Obama has little to do with.

Gruber told the truth. American's are stupid.

Russia-Ukraine.....and?

Iran-nukes....we'll be negotiating with Iran until next summer.

ISIS-

U.S. General: Turning Point Against ISIS Will Take At Least 3 Years

The top U.S. general in charge of forces fighting the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria has said it will take a minimum of three years to reach a turning point against the group. Speaking to reporters Thursday, Lt. Gen. James Terry refused to give a more specific timeline.
Lt. Gen. James Terry: "The first strikes were, what, 8 August? And so, this is December. What’s that? Four months. I think we’ve made significant progress in halting that offensive that I talked about, the ability for them to continue to expand, you know, in terms of terrain and geography out there. I think what we must do, especially inside of Iraq, is continue to build those capabilities. I think you’re at least talking a minimum of three years."
This week the Obama administration approved orders for hundreds of U.S. troops to deploy to Iraq as part of a mission to train and advise Iraqi troops.

Headlines for December 19 2014 Democracy Now

If Bush were in charge, he would have attacked Turkey.

If Bush were in charge he wouldn't have let ISIS take control of all of those cities while he diddled himself and called them the JV.

Seriously? Bush fought that Iraq war for 6 years until he left office for his predecessor to finish. And that was supposed to be a six month war. Where do you get off pretending like Bush was some great commander-in-chief, suddenly capable of winning a war??

Oldstyle has a short memory, or a very selective memory.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Are you two dimwits, Claud and Old School, still carrying on about Benghazi? Don't you two have anything better to do?

What would you like talk about, Carla? Fast & Furious? The IRS scandal? Peter Gruber and the lies that were told to the American people to pass the Affordable Care Act? Trillion dollar a year deficits? Russia invading the Ukraine? North Korea cyber-attacking Sony pictures? Millions more Americans on food stamps? Millions more Americans forced to work part time jobs? The Iranians merrily working away on their nuke? ISIS slaughtering thousands while Barry called them the "JV"? Pick a topic, hon...it's a regular smorgasbord of incompetence with this Administration!

You could start a thread about the IRS scandal that went nowhere, and bitch about it for 118 pages if you want. I'll stop in from time to time to see how you are doing.

The deficit is shrinking. People are on food stamps because wages are stagnant, and the minimum wage needs to be raised....something Obama has little to do with.

Gruber told the truth. American's are stupid.

Russia-Ukraine.....and?

Iran-nukes....we'll be negotiating with Iran until next summer.

ISIS-

U.S. General: Turning Point Against ISIS Will Take At Least 3 Years

The top U.S. general in charge of forces fighting the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria has said it will take a minimum of three years to reach a turning point against the group. Speaking to reporters Thursday, Lt. Gen. James Terry refused to give a more specific timeline.
Lt. Gen. James Terry: "The first strikes were, what, 8 August? And so, this is December. What’s that? Four months. I think we’ve made significant progress in halting that offensive that I talked about, the ability for them to continue to expand, you know, in terms of terrain and geography out there. I think what we must do, especially inside of Iraq, is continue to build those capabilities. I think you’re at least talking a minimum of three years."
This week the Obama administration approved orders for hundreds of U.S. troops to deploy to Iraq as part of a mission to train and advise Iraqi troops.

Headlines for December 19 2014 Democracy Now

If Bush were in charge, he would have attacked Turkey.

If Bush were in charge he wouldn't have let ISIS take control of all of those cities while he diddled himself and called them the JV.

Huh....whaaa? We went to Iraq because they were supposed to have WMD's. (the smokin gun, the mushroom cloud) We were supposed to be greeted as liberators, and the oil was supposed to pay for the war.

Aha ha ha ha ha ha!!!

And they had WMDs... tens of thousands of tons of 'em and hundreds of thousands of tons of tons of materials used to build WMD... Kay and Dulfer reports confirmed in stark incontrovertible detail. They just referred to them as "CBW" or "Chemical Biological Weapons".

Beyond that however, Iraq's socialist government was a long time proponent of International islamic Terrorism, who was also in violation of their treaty obligations... so the WMD thing was only one of the reasons that Iraq's socialist government HAD TO GO... and go, it went.

Deceit, FRAUD and Ignorance... the fundamental elements of socialism.

 

[Carla_Danger]

Are you two dimwits, Claud and Old School, still carrying on about Benghazi? Don't you two have anything better to do?

What would you like talk about, Carla? Fast & Furious? The IRS scandal? Peter Gruber and the lies that were told to the American people to pass the Affordable Care Act? Trillion dollar a year deficits? Russia invading the Ukraine? North Korea cyber-attacking Sony pictures? Millions more Americans on food stamps? Millions more Americans forced to work part time jobs? The Iranians merrily working away on their nuke? ISIS slaughtering thousands while Barry called them the "JV"? Pick a topic, hon...it's a regular smorgasbord of incompetence with this Administration!

You could start a thread about the IRS scandal that went nowhere, and bitch about it for 118 pages if you want. I'll stop in from time to time to see how you are doing.

The deficit is shrinking. People are on food stamps because wages are stagnant, and the minimum wage needs to be raised....something Obama has little to do with.

Gruber told the truth. American's are stupid.

Russia-Ukraine.....and?

Iran-nukes....we'll be negotiating with Iran until next summer.

ISIS-

U.S. General: Turning Point Against ISIS Will Take At Least 3 Years

The top U.S. general in charge of forces fighting the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria has said it will take a minimum of three years to reach a turning point against the group. Speaking to reporters Thursday, Lt. Gen. James Terry refused to give a more specific timeline.
Lt. Gen. James Terry: "The first strikes were, what, 8 August? And so, this is December. What’s that? Four months. I think we’ve made significant progress in halting that offensive that I talked about, the ability for them to continue to expand, you know, in terms of terrain and geography out there. I think what we must do, especially inside of Iraq, is continue to build those capabilities. I think you’re at least talking a minimum of three years."
This week the Obama administration approved orders for hundreds of U.S. troops to deploy to Iraq as part of a mission to train and advise Iraqi troops.

Headlines for December 19 2014 Democracy Now

If Bush were in charge, he would have attacked Turkey.

If Bush were in charge he wouldn't have let ISIS take control of all of those cities while he diddled himself and called them the JV.

Huh....whaaa? We went to Iraq because they were supposed to have WMD's. (the smokin gun, the mushroom cloud) We were supposed to be greeted as liberators, and the oil was supposed to pay for the war.

Aha ha ha ha ha ha!!!

And they had WMDs... tens of thousands of tons of 'em and hundreds of thousands of tons of tons of materials used to build WMD... Kay and Dulfer reports confirmed in stark incontrovertible detail. They just referred to them as "CBW" or "Chemical Biological Weapons".

Beyond that however, Iraq's socialist government was a long time proponent of International islamic Terrorism, who was also in violation of their treaty obligations... so the WMD thing was only one of the reasons that Iraq's socialist government HAD TO GO... and go, it went.

Deceit, FRAUD and Ignorance... the fundamental elements of socialism.

They had a bunch of old expired junk. Geez!

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Funny, Notfooled...Candy Crowley seems to suffer from the same thing I am! She later admitted that after going back and looking at the transcript of Obama's Rose Garden speech that he DIDN'T call Benghazi an act of terror and that she was mistaken when she said that he did.

You need to provide the transcript on that Oldstyle.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

10381874

And they had WMDs... tens of thousands of tons of 'em and hundreds of thousands of tons of tons of materials used to build WMD

Why did Bush write in his memoirs that it sickens him every time he thinks about the reality that they found no WMD in Iraq following the invasion.

All he needs to feel really good about getting all those hundreds of thousands of people killed and wounded and lives destroyed in Iraq apparently is to buy you and him a plane ticket to Iraq where you can take him to the locations where all this WMD exists, take some photos, show the IAEA and UNMOVIC and resolve Little Dubby's upset stomach problems once for all,

Would you do that for Dubya? It might even help his little brother Jeb give America a triple Bush presidency in 2916.

Just think of the power you hold. Come on / do it. Just call Barbara Ma Bush She'd love to have you restore dignity to her brood by making the stain of no WMD in Iraq go away,

 

[NotfooledbyW]

If Bush were in charge he wouldn't have let ISIS take control of all of those cities while he diddled himself and called them the JV.

He wouldn't? He let the Taliban regain terrorist control of nearly 80 percent of Afghanistan's Districts by the end of 2008. That result came after Bush declared in 2002 that the Taliban had been eliminate and 25 million Afghans liberated.

The Taiban were running Kandahar City and most of Helmand and Kandahar Province in early 2009.

Obama launched the largest US Marine air to ground assault in early 2009 into Helmand and Kandahar Provinces to drive the Taliban out,

I see no precedent for your conjecture that Bush would have prevented an IS takeover.

And Bush failed to get a long term security deal in Iraq that would have kept US troops in Iraq for a long period of time.

Bush was forced to agree to total withdrawal of US troops on a deadline fixed date that came before IS terrorists made the moves that they did last June.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

WrmK 10381874

Beyond that however, Iraq's socialist government was a long time proponent of International islamic Terrorism, who was also in violation of their treaty obligations... so the WMD thing was only one of the reasons that Iraq's socialist government HAD TO GO... and go, it went.

The US Congress authorized use of military force (if necessary) in Iraq for two reasons and both were required to be applicable for any decision to invade.

To protect the national security of the USA. "And". " enforce "relevant" UN Security Council Resolutions against Iraq. UNSC Resolution 1441 became a relevant UNSC Resolution in November 2002 and it dealt with WMD and no other reason was relevant to the UN inspection regime that was set up to determine whether use of military force would become necessary under Resolution 1441.

There were no other reasons than WMD and Bush signed on to 1441 after sending Colin Powell to the UN to get it.

You are seriously wrong LostKeys.

 

[JoeB131]

So if Barack Obama was labeling the attacks at Benghazi an act of terror that day in his Rose Garden speech...then kindly explain why he WOULDN'T call it an act of terror in his Steve Kroft interview on 60 Minutes...on his visit to The View and during his speech to the United Nations?

Why should he? Frankly, now you are getting wrapped up about a word?

Maybe he felt he should let the investigators do their job rather than ratchet up the rhetoric.

 

[JoeB131]

"Poisoned by racism"? Really, Joey? Show me one thing that I've EVER posted here that was even remotely racist! My criticisms of Barack Obama have nothing to do with his pigmentation. I don't think he was ready to be President when he was elected...but what's worse...I don't think he's grown into the job over the past six years. He's been an awful leader. I would hold that view if he was purple with bright orange spots.

Uh, huh. Yet you keep saying nice things about Bush who was clearly completely fucking incomptent.

3000 dead on 9/11, despite clear warnings from the CIA? No biggie. Bush is white.

4500 dead in Iraq over weapons that didn't exist? Well, stuff happens. Bush is white.

1700 dead in NOLA because the Horse Show guy didn't deploy resources fast enough? Hey, why are you picking on him?

4 dead in Benghazi! OH MY GOD THIS IS THE WORST CRISIS EVER BECAUSE HE DIDN'T SAY TERRORISM ENOUGH AND HE SAID IT WAS ABOUT A VIDEO!!!!!

Someone pointed out that racism is often that blacks don't get what whites take for granted. I think you illustrate that very well.

 

[JoeB131]

If Bush were in charge he wouldn't have let ISIS take control of all of those cities while he diddled himself and called them the JV.

Really? By 2006, Bush had already pretty much lost control of most of western Iraq. That's why he had to send in Petreaus to do the surge. And all Petreaus did was pay the Sunnis a shitload of money to play nice long enough for us to do an orderly retreat.

"I said Orderly Retreat, Dammit!!!"

 

[Oldstyle]

So you aren't even disputing that the Obama Administration misled the American people about the Affordable Care Act? That they felt obliged to tell them lies and write the bill in such a confusing manner that the American public WOULDN'T understand what it was that was being done to them?

The ACA has been available for the American public to read. Why didn't you read it?

Read the Affordable Care Act Health Care Law HealthCare.gov

Peter Gruber admitted that the people who wrote the ACA DELIBERATELY made it so complex and confusing that nobody would understand what was in it. They made it so long (2.500 pages) that few tried. The architects of the ACA did so because they didn't want people to understand the ACA because if they did they would have wanted it even less than they did!

 

[Oldstyle]

Funny, Notfooled...Candy Crowley seems to suffer from the same thing I am! She later admitted that after going back and looking at the transcript of Obama's Rose Garden speech that he DIDN'T call Benghazi an act of terror and that she was mistaken when she said that he did.

You need to provide the transcript on that Oldstyle.

 

[JoeB131]

Peter Gruber admitted that the people who wrote the ACA DELIBERATELY made it so complex and confusing that nobody would understand what was in it. They made it so long (2.500 pages) that few tried. The architects of the ACA did so because they didn't want people to understand the ACA because if they did they would have wanted it even less than they did!

Not really, but you live in your own reality, Dog Style.

the ACA was a mess because instead of going to universal medicare, they tried to preserve the current system as much as possible.

 

[JoeB131]

Funny, Notfooled...Candy Crowley seems to suffer from the same thing I am! She later admitted that after going back and looking at the transcript of Obama's Rose Garden speech that he DIDN'T call Benghazi an act of terror and that she was mistaken when she said that he did.

You need to provide the transcript on that Oldstyle.

I notice the transcript cuts off right after you get your money shot.

 

[Oldstyle]

Are you two dimwits, Claud and Old School, still carrying on about Benghazi? Don't you two have anything better to do?

What would you like talk about, Carla? Fast & Furious? The IRS scandal? Peter Gruber and the lies that were told to the American people to pass the Affordable Care Act? Trillion dollar a year deficits? Russia invading the Ukraine? North Korea cyber-attacking Sony pictures? Millions more Americans on food stamps? Millions more Americans forced to work part time jobs? The Iranians merrily working away on their nuke? ISIS slaughtering thousands while Barry called them the "JV"? Pick a topic, hon...it's a regular smorgasbord of incompetence with this Administration!

You could start a thread about the IRS scandal that went nowhere, and bitch about it for 118 pages if you want. I'll stop in from time to time to see how you are doing.

The deficit is shrinking. People are on food stamps because wages are stagnant, and the minimum wage needs to be raised....something Obama has little to do with.

Gruber told the truth. American's are stupid.

Russia-Ukraine.....and?

Iran-nukes....we'll be negotiating with Iran until next summer.

ISIS-

U.S. General: Turning Point Against ISIS Will Take At Least 3 Years

The top U.S. general in charge of forces fighting the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria has said it will take a minimum of three years to reach a turning point against the group. Speaking to reporters Thursday, Lt. Gen. James Terry refused to give a more specific timeline.
Lt. Gen. James Terry: "The first strikes were, what, 8 August? And so, this is December. What’s that? Four months. I think we’ve made significant progress in halting that offensive that I talked about, the ability for them to continue to expand, you know, in terms of terrain and geography out there. I think what we must do, especially inside of Iraq, is continue to build those capabilities. I think you’re at least talking a minimum of three years."
This week the Obama administration approved orders for hundreds of U.S. troops to deploy to Iraq as part of a mission to train and advise Iraqi troops.

Headlines for December 19 2014 Democracy Now

If Bush were in charge, he would have attacked Turkey.

If Bush were in charge he wouldn't have let ISIS take control of all of those cities while he diddled himself and called them the JV.

Seriously? Bush fought that Iraq war for 6 years until he left office for his predecessor to finish. And that was supposed to be a six month war. Where do you get off pretending like Bush was some great commander-in-chief, suddenly capable of winning a war??

All I have to do is compare Bush to Obama to make the case that he was a far superior Commander in Chief, Faun. Bush successfully conducted two wars...the invasion of Afghanistan and the defeat of the Taliban...and the invasion of Iraq and the defeat of Saddam Hussein. Both were rather remarkable in how quickly they took place and how few American lives were lost. Did the US struggle to nation build after those two wars went from an initial combat phase to one of trying to protect against insurgencies? Yes and we continue to struggle against those same insurgents as does most of the rest of the world.

So what military success has Barack Obama had? He's lost more Americans in his Presidency than George W. Bush did in his. He's lost huge portions of the Middle East to ISIS while he told us that we had nothing to fear from them because they were just the "JV" team and he had Al Queda "on the run". He's about to pull out of Afghanistan and let the Taliban take control there once again. Take away the Seal kill of Osama bin Laden and he's pretty much got nothing. When Bush made the point that killing ObL wasn't the main goal because it wouldn't end the fight against the extremists he was 100% correct. When Barry did his victory dance and declared Al Queda on the run he was 100% incorrect.