Revisiting Citizen United vs. FEC; The rebirth of Plutocracy

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Whenever left-leaning posters bring up the Citizen United decision (2010) and label it one of the WORST decision ever rendered because DARK, undisclosed and underreported large amounts of money makes its way into the "buying of governmental favors"(aka...legal bribery) ........
But, guess what? Whenever the issue is debated, right wingers retort with: "Well, unions do it too"

This prompted me to research a bit more what Citizen United did (and did not do) and what amounts of these "special interest" money makes its way into our electoral processes from unions and corporations. I KNOW ITS A LONG READ...BUT WELL WORTH IT TO EDUCATE ALL OF US (either party) AS TO HOW, WHAT AND WHO WE ELECT.

First, a review of Citizen United:

Are unions and corporations subject to the same transparency requirements for their political spending?

No. Both unions and corporations have to report to the Federal Election Commission any political expenditures made to finance independent expenditures and electioneering communications. However, this covers only some of the direct political spending. Otherwise, the regulations governing corporate and union political spending are very different, and allow much more secrecy for corporations than for unions.
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Do Corporations Unions Face the Same Rules for Political Spending Demos

Second, the amount of money (and from whom) that sloshes its way into the coffers of candidates who....supposedly......are our representatives within our cherished democracy


Republic Report broke down the figures for the last election and found that Koch groups alone spent more than double the combined political spending (including to undisclosed group) for the top ten unions combined. The chart includes union spending on dark money Democratic groups and Koch spending on dark money groups like Americans for Prosperity.

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This undisclosed campaign system is nothing new for the Koch brothers. In 1995 and 1996, Koch set up a shell company called Triad Management to spend millions in secret money to help the Republican Party. Of course, this type of spending never shows up in databases.

All NRLB-regulated unions, on the other hand, disclose every outside payment. Payments that cannot be found through the FEC can be found on a database maintained by the Labor Department. Individuals and corporations are under no such similar disclosure rules. The Koch money identified recently by the Washington Post, the $407 million, relates only to they money filtered through foundations and nonprofits. The money Koch spends as a corporate entity, which it has in the past, may have gone unreported - See more at: CHART Koch Spends More Than Double Top Ten Unions Combined
 
Whenever left-leaning posters bring up the Citizen United decision (2010) and label it one of the WORST decision ever rendered because DARK, undisclosed and underreported large amounts of money makes its way into the "buying of governmental favors"(aka...legal bribery) ........
But, guess what? Whenever the issue is debated, right wingers retort with: "Well, unions do it too"

This prompted me to research a bit more what Citizen United did (and did not do) and what amounts of these "special interest" money makes its way into our electoral processes from unions and corporations. I KNOW ITS A LONG READ...BUT WELL WORTH IT TO EDUCATE ALL OF US (either party) AS TO HOW, WHAT AND WHO WE ELECT.

First, a review of Citizen United:

Are unions and corporations subject to the same transparency requirements for their political spending?

No. Both unions and corporations have to report to the Federal Election Commission any political expenditures made to finance independent expenditures and electioneering communications. However, this covers only some of the direct political spending. Otherwise, the regulations governing corporate and union political spending are very different, and allow much more secrecy for corporations than for unions.
Corp_Table%201.png

Do Corporations Unions Face the Same Rules for Political Spending Demos

Second, the amount of money (and from whom) that sloshes its way into the coffers of candidates who....supposedly......are our representatives within our cherished democracy


Republic Report broke down the figures for the last election and found that Koch groups alone spent more than double the combined political spending (including to undisclosed group) for the top ten unions combined. The chart includes union spending on dark money Democratic groups and Koch spending on dark money groups like Americans for Prosperity.

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This undisclosed campaign system is nothing new for the Koch brothers. In 1995 and 1996, Koch set up a shell company called Triad Management to spend millions in secret money to help the Republican Party. Of course, this type of spending never shows up in databases.

All NRLB-regulated unions, on the other hand, disclose every outside payment. Payments that cannot be found through the FEC can be found on a database maintained by the Labor Department. Individuals and corporations are under no such similar disclosure rules. The Koch money identified recently by the Washington Post, the $407 million, relates only to they money filtered through foundations and nonprofits. The money Koch spends as a corporate entity, which it has in the past, may have gone unreported - See more at: CHART Koch Spends More Than Double Top Ten Unions Combined

More far left propaganda not based on real facts..

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There has always been big money in politics and there always will be it was there before Citizens United and it would still be there if the Citizens United decison was overturned tomorrow and both parties will always cater to it.
 
How a super PAC plans to coordinate directly with Hillary Clinton’s campaign

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, a pro-Clinton rapid-response operation, announced it was splitting off from its parent American Bridge and will work in coordination with the Clinton campaign as a stand-alone super PAC. The group’s move was first reported by the New York Times.


That befuddled many campaign finance experts, who noted that super PACs, by definition, are political committees that solely do independent expenditures, which cannot be coordinated with a candidate or political party. Several said the relationship between the campaign and the super PAC would test the legal limits.

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How a super PAC plans to coordinate directly with Hillary Clinton s campaign - The Washington Post
 
Because of Citizen United, right wingers, that extra "cash" has bought you the House in congress....but you should ALSO know that the same dirty money is going to keep the White House from your party for at least the next decade.
 
Because of Citizen United, right wingers, that extra "cash" has bought you the House in congress....but you should ALSO know that the same dirty money is going to keep the White House from your party for at least the next decade.

And this why the far left religion is so dangerous..

They are out to preach their religious message regardless if the actual facts disagree with them..
 
And this why the far left religion is so dangerous..

They are out to preach their religious message regardless if the actual facts disagree with them..

Poor Kosh...So MANY things frighten you.....Check under your bed constantly.....LOL
 
And this why the far left religion is so dangerous..

They are out to preach their religious message regardless if the actual facts disagree with them..

Poor Kosh...So MANY things frighten you.....Check under your bed constantly.....LOL

Yes we know that the far left will run away once facts are presented that disproves their religion..
 

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