Rosebud Sioux Tribe: House Vote On Keystone XL Pipeline An ‘Act Of War'

[Camp]

Ok. I checked the South Dakota map for the location of reservations.

Larger map at link:

South Dakota Department of Tribal Government Relations - Location of reservations

And this map clearly marks the Keystone XL and the reservations.

No way jose does the pipeline cross any rez. Larger map at link:

http://topdownandbottomup.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/southdakota17x11.jpg

Those maps don't show the Rosebud Reservation trust lands. The map Wikipedia uses does, but not in great detail. Google maps shows them in detail. Google Rosebud Reservation and zoom until you see the fragmented sections of trust lands. They were created in the early 1900's when the reservation was reduced in size and sold off much of it's land. They kept lots of it however in various size parcels.

 

[Dot Com]

Republicans passed the Indian Citizenship Act and Calvin Coolidge was made an honorary member of the Lakota tribe.

Just something that I know our little Lakota liberal did not know.

Unappreciative bitch.

Oh, and another thing. We are a territorial species. That is right. Even the peaceful peyote eating natives had wars with each other over land LONG BEFORE evil white men came here with guns, bibles and a new word for natives, wheel.

Oh never mind. The moronic left wing pieces of unreal shit would have us believe survival of the fittest only refers to animals. They would have us believe that ALL WARS among natives for land were all righteous. Why? Cause they were not fought with guns, and bible verses were not quoted.

Yes, the notion of the survival of the fittest only applies to species that are not Homo sapiens. Yes, liberals are that fucking stupid. Especially this simple minded Lakota bitch.

do you have any point to make aside from your ad homs directed at OP Theowl32

 

[Dot Com]

Ok. I checked the South Dakota map for the location of reservations.

Larger map at link:

South Dakota Department of Tribal Government Relations - Location of reservations

And this map clearly marks the Keystone XL and the reservations.

No way jose does the pipeline cross any rez. Larger map at link:

http://topdownandbottomup.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/southdakota17x11.jpg

Those maps don't show the Rosebud Reservation trust lands. The map Wikipedia uses does, but not in great detail. Google maps shows them in detail. Google Rosebud Reservation and zoom until you see the fragmented sections of trust lands. They were created in the early 1900's when the reservation was reduced in size and sold off much of it's land. They kept lots of it however in various size parcels.

thanks for that tinydancer might be interested in that info too

 

[Camp]

This shows the original boundaries and how they were changed in the early 1900's. The best way to view what appears on this map as blotches of fragmented parcels is with a google map search of the Rosebud reservation. You may have to zoom, but the are of red blotches are titiled off reservation trust lands and the individual parcels are easier to distinguish.

 

[tinydancer]

Ok. I checked the South Dakota map for the location of reservations.

Larger map at link:

South Dakota Department of Tribal Government Relations - Location of reservations

And this map clearly marks the Keystone XL and the reservations.

No way jose does the pipeline cross any rez. Larger map at link:

http://topdownandbottomup.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/southdakota17x11.jpg

Those maps don't show the Rosebud Reservation trust lands. The map Wikipedia uses does, but not in great detail. Google maps shows them in detail. Google Rosebud Reservation and zoom until you see the fragmented sections of trust lands. They were created in the early 1900's when the reservation was reduced in size and sold off much of it's land. They kept lots of it however in various size parcels.

Looking at every map. Trans Canada doesn't touch any tribes land or trust lands that I can find.

That would also explain why they haven't sued Trans Canada or the State of South Dakota to date.

It's quite simple. There is no standing for a lawsuit based on lands owned by any tribe in South Dakota.

 

[tinydancer]

I'm going to spend the day tracking Steyer's NextGen Climate involvement with Rosebud Sioux, Moccasins on the Ground and other First Nations.

First Nation opposition up here to the Northern Gateway is funded by Tides. Tides gets it's mega donations from wealthy Americans who basically want to shut down Canada's oil sands all together.

There's good money in the funding for First Nations and other professional climate activists. They are whores to the dollar. Not to the environment.

This is not a fight about one pipeline. The ultimate goal is to crush oil production period full stop for many of these enviro whackos,

 

[Dot Com]

I'm going to spend the day tracking Steyer's NextGen Climate involvement with Rosebud Sioux, Moccasins on the Ground and other First Nations.

First Nation opposition up here to the Northern Gateway is funded by Tides. Tides gets it's mega donations from wealthy Americans who basically want to shut down Canada's oil sands all together.

There's good money in the funding for First Nations and other professional climate activists. They are whores to the dollar. Not to the environment.

This is not a fight about one pipeline. The ultimate goal is to crush oil production period full stop for many of these enviro whackos,

link?

 

[Camp]

Ok. I checked the South Dakota map for the location of reservations.

Larger map at link:

South Dakota Department of Tribal Government Relations - Location of reservations

And this map clearly marks the Keystone XL and the reservations.

No way jose does the pipeline cross any rez. Larger map at link:

http://topdownandbottomup.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/southdakota17x11.jpg

Those maps don't show the Rosebud Reservation trust lands. The map Wikipedia uses does, but not in great detail. Google maps shows them in detail. Google Rosebud Reservation and zoom until you see the fragmented sections of trust lands. They were created in the early 1900's when the reservation was reduced in size and sold off much of it's land. They kept lots of it however in various size parcels.

Looking at every map. Trans Canada doesn't touch any tribes land or trust lands that I can find.

That would also explain why they haven't sued Trans Canada or the State of South Dakota to date.

It's quite simple. There is no standing for a lawsuit based on lands owned by any tribe in South Dakota.

There are constitutional questions and challenges to the way the reservation lands were ceded back to the US Gov. The original treaty was approved by the tribe, but the treaty got altered and changed once it got to congress. The tribe has always maintained that the new treaties with alterations and changes needed to be voted on and approved by the tribe and is thus, invalid. In addition, another problem is that even the so called invalid treaty called for the ceded lands to be used by settlers as ranches and farms, meaning that even when the invalid treaty has been forced on them, it only allows for agricultural use and specific parcels designated for schools. The tribe contends that any use of the lands need approval from the tribe.

 

[tinydancer]

I'm going to spend the day tracking Steyer's NextGen Climate involvement with Rosebud Sioux, Moccasins on the Ground and other First Nations.

First Nation opposition up here to the Northern Gateway is funded by Tides. Tides gets it's mega donations from wealthy Americans who basically want to shut down Canada's oil sands all together.

There's good money in the funding for First Nations and other professional climate activists. They are whores to the dollar. Not to the environment.

This is not a fight about one pipeline. The ultimate goal is to crush oil production period full stop for many of these enviro whackos,

link?

To Steyer? Tides? Or the true purpose of blocking the Keystone to shut down the Oil Sands in Alberta?

Or all the dirt I've got on professional enviro activists?

I'm dedicating the weekend to putting this package together with all the data I have and I'm getting this afternoon. It's pretty stunning.

I won't put up one link when I open this can of worms on Monday that I have not cross linked and verified numerous times. I want to mega check everything. I'm fussy that way.

This really is not about a pipeline. This is about shutting down fossil fuel production in Canada.

By any means possible. Be happy to share the info with you.

 

[Dot Com]

Don't bother. The Lakhota have their war ponies at the ready to go to war w/ the corp profiteers/socialist polluters (taxpayers will be stuck w/ the clean-up bill/s)

 

[BullKurtz]

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This shows the original boundaries and how they were changed in the early 1900's. The best way to view what appears on this map as blotches of fragmented parcels is with a google map search of the Rosebud reservation. You may have to zoom, but the are of red blotches are titiled off reservation trust lands and the individual parcels are easier to distinguish.

Bullshit....either the land is tribal land or it isn't....you leftists are nothing but lying sacks of shit... If you gave a shit about the Rosebud Sioux why haven't we heard from you before on their poverty, alcoholism, illiteracy, etc?

 

[Dot Com]

View attachment 34201

This shows the original boundaries and how they were changed in the early 1900's. The best way to view what appears on this map as blotches of fragmented parcels is with a google map search of the Rosebud reservation. You may have to zoom, but the are of red blotches are titiled off reservation trust lands and the individual parcels are easier to distinguish.

Bullshit....either the land is tribal land or it isn't....you leftists are nothing but lying sacks of shit... If you gave a shit about the Rosebud Sioux why haven't we heard from you before on their poverty, alcoholism, illiteracy, etc?

why don't you provide links to back up all your rw talking-points?

 

[Lakhota]

View attachment 34201

This shows the original boundaries and how they were changed in the early 1900's. The best way to view what appears on this map as blotches of fragmented parcels is with a google map search of the Rosebud reservation. You may have to zoom, but the are of red blotches are titiled off reservation trust lands and the individual parcels are easier to distinguish.

Bullshit....either the land is tribal land or it isn't....you leftists are nothing but lying sacks of shit... If you gave a shit about the Rosebud Sioux why haven't we heard from you before on their poverty, alcoholism, illiteracy, etc?

The plight of Native Americans is rarely reported by national media.

 

[tinydancer]

Don't bother. The Lakhota have their war ponies at the ready to go to war w/ the corp profiteers/socialist polluters (taxpayers will be stuck w/ the clean-up bill/s)

Paid war ponies by other corporate sponsors. See organizations financed by billionaires play a "Rent a Chief" or "Rent a Tribe" to lend authenticity to their enviro whacko goals.

And the paid off tribes to be anti pipeline have nooooooooooo problemo taking big money. And they have no problem either in trying to prevent other tribes from negotiating in good faith for corporations to use their land.

Just had one up here that was busted. A "Rent a Chief" scenario for a Chief to appear with Neil Young.

Allan Adam, from the Athabasca Chipewyan First Nation. Tides paid him $55,000. for one night on stage with Neil.

Not bad eh?

 

[Camp]

Don't bother. The Lakhota have their war ponies at the ready to go to war w/ the corp profiteers/socialist polluters (taxpayers will be stuck w/ the clean-up bill/s)

Paid war ponies by other corporate sponsors. See organizations financed by billionaires play a "Rent a Chief" or "Rent a Tribe" to lend authenticity to their enviro whacko goals.

And the paid off tribes to be anti pipeline have nooooooooooo problemo taking big money. And they have no problem either in trying to prevent other tribes from negotiating in good faith for corporations to use their land.

Just had one up here that was busted. A "Rent a Chief" scenario for a Chief to appear with Neil Young.

Allan Adam, from the Athabasca Chipewyan First Nation. Tides paid him $55,000. for one night on stage with Neil.

Not bad eh?

So what? This is how people raise funds for causes. Adams has been at the forefront of fighting the tar sands issue as leader of the tribe of over 6 years.

albertatarsandsnetwork.ca/athabasca_chipewyan_first_nation

acfnchallenge.wordpress.com

 

[Siete]

On May 7, the Keystone tar sands pipeline provided yet another warning when it spilled approximately 21,000 gallons of crude in North Dakota. This is its eleventh and most significant spill.


here is a pic of a Keystone Pipe splitting ... the accident sent oil spewing 60' in the air ..

all of you "rent a chief" morons who want Keystone in your back yard, please raise your hand.

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correction I was wrong , the above pic isn't the one responsible for sending oil 60' into the air .. that is a totally different spill ..

The spill occurred at a pump station when a ¾-inch pipe fitting broke, sending a 60 foot geyser of tar sands crude into the air. At approximately 6 am, a nearby landowner saw the column of crude rising above the treeline and called TransCanada’s emergency number – where operators apparently initially thought he was joking.


apparently TransCanada has 'rent a moron" doing their bidding.

 

[Siete]

what, no war Squaw ?

LOL.

 

[HenryBHough]

apparently TransCanada has 'rent a moron" doing their bidding.

Nonsense. Your "rent a moron" already has a job. As your so-called "president" though, these days, I guess we can't fault you for wanting to forget that sad reality.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

War you say? The natives vs the US government? I think we can take 'em.

 

[TooTall]

Ok. I checked the South Dakota map for the location of reservations.

Larger map at link:

South Dakota Department of Tribal Government Relations - Location of reservations

And this map clearly marks the Keystone XL and the reservations.

No way jose does the pipeline cross any rez. Larger map at link:

http://topdownandbottomup.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/southdakota17x11.jpg

Those maps don't show the Rosebud Reservation trust lands. The map Wikipedia uses does, but not in great detail. Google maps shows them in detail. Google Rosebud Reservation and zoom until you see the fragmented sections of trust lands. They were created in the early 1900's when the reservation was reduced in size and sold off much of it's land. They kept lots of it however in various size parcels.

Looking at every map. Trans Canada doesn't touch any tribes land or trust lands that I can find.

That would also explain why they haven't sued Trans Canada or the State of South Dakota to date.

It's quite simple. There is no standing for a lawsuit based on lands owned by any tribe in South Dakota.

There are constitutional questions and challenges to the way the reservation lands were ceded back to the US Gov. The original treaty was approved by the tribe, but the treaty got altered and changed once it got to congress. The tribe has always maintained that the new treaties with alterations and changes needed to be voted on and approved by the tribe and is thus, invalid. In addition, another problem is that even the so called invalid treaty called for the ceded lands to be used by settlers as ranches and farms, meaning that even when the invalid treaty has been forced on them, it only allows for agricultural use and specific parcels designated for schools. The tribe contends that any use of the lands need approval from the tribe.

If the tribe pays property taxes on the land, it belongs to them. Did anyone bother to check that out?