Rules For Traditionals: How People In Wedding Trades Can Defend Themselves

[Dragonlady]

Bigots always try to hang their hats on some reasonable grounds for their personal prejudices.

 

[SwimExpert]

The bigoted business owner is not having his rights infringed upon. He is open to the public. When he opened his door to the public, he agreed to serve anyone who came through that door.

So a black business owner should be required to accommodate a KKK rally that wants a cake that says "White Power" on it, right? And a Jewish business owner should be required to accommodate a neo Nazi group that wants a cake that says "Heil Hitler."

 

[martybegan]

The bigoted business owner is not having his rights infringed upon. He is open to the public. When he opened his door to the public, he agreed to serve anyone who came through that door.

If you want to discriminate, don't open your doors to the public.

The customer who is being turned away, has lost his right to service.

So i should be able to walk into a Bentley dealership with a $5 bill and walk away with one?

 

[hadit]

The bigoted business owner is not having his rights infringed upon. He is open to the public. When he opened his door to the public, he agreed to serve anyone who came through that door.

So a black business owner should be required to accommodate a KKK rally that wants a cake that says "White Power" on it, right? And a Jewish business owner should be required to accommodate a neo Nazi group that wants a cake that says "Heil Hitler."

Not necessarily. That falls under free speech. IOW, a business owner cannot be forced to say things, but he can be forced to participate in things he finds repulsive. In this brave new world, a Black or Jewish deli owner who does catering CAN be forced to cater a Klan rally, but can't be forced to put "White Power" or ""Heil Hitler" on a cake or anything else, and according to some on here, he's a bigot if he doesn't want to cater a Klan rally in the woods at night.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The bigoted business owner is not having his rights infringed upon. He is open to the public. When he opened his door to the public, he agreed to serve anyone who came through that door.

If you want to discriminate, don't open your doors to the public.

The customer who is being turned away, has lost his right to service.

So i should be able to walk into a Bentley dealership with a $5 bill and walk away with one?

No, but if you're a fag with 150K you have a good shot. They don't care who you fuck, nor should they.

 

[martybegan]

The bigoted business owner is not having his rights infringed upon. He is open to the public. When he opened his door to the public, he agreed to serve anyone who came through that door.

If you want to discriminate, don't open your doors to the public.

The customer who is being turned away, has lost his right to service.

So i should be able to walk into a Bentley dealership with a $5 bill and walk away with one?

No, but if you're a fag with 150K you have a good shoot. They don't care who you fuck, nor should they.

As usual, the point I am trying to make rolls over your fascist head.

 

[danielpalos]

The bigoted business owner is not having his rights infringed upon. He is open to the public. When he opened his door to the public, he agreed to serve anyone who came through that door.

So a black business owner should be required to accommodate a KKK rally that wants a cake that says "White Power" on it, right? And a Jewish business owner should be required to accommodate a neo Nazi group that wants a cake that says "Heil Hitler."

You make it seem like the owners have to do the work themselves instead of just asking for volunteers who may get a good tip.

 

[danielpalos]

The bigoted business owner is not having his rights infringed upon. He is open to the public. When he opened his door to the public, he agreed to serve anyone who came through that door.

If you want to discriminate, don't open your doors to the public.

The customer who is being turned away, has lost his right to service.

So i should be able to walk into a Bentley dealership with a $5 bill and walk away with one?

Only at a Dollar Store.

 

[danielpalos]

There is no Religious freedom on a for-profit basis with our Commerce Clause and public accommodation laws.

 

[JoeB131]

So a black business owner should be required to accommodate a KKK rally that wants a cake that says "White Power" on it, right? And a Jewish business owner should be required to accommodate a neo Nazi group that wants a cake that says "Heil Hitler."

That's an absurd comparison, and I'm amazed you are making it.

If any Christian really feels that gays represent the sort of existential threat that the KKK or Nazis represented, they have some serious issues.

When was the last time gays systematically killed Christians?

 

[Katzndogz]

The bigoted business owner is not having his rights infringed upon. He is open to the public. When he opened his door to the public, he agreed to serve anyone who came through that door.

So a black business owner should be required to accommodate a KKK rally that wants a cake that says "White Power" on it, right? And a Jewish business owner should be required to accommodate a neo Nazi group that wants a cake that says "Heil Hitler."

You make it seem like the owners have to do the work themselves instead of just asking for volunteers who may get a good tip.

Hmmm. Accept the assignment then subcontract it out. That might be the best solution of all.

 

[SwimExpert]

That's an absurd comparison, and I'm amazed you are making it.

No, it's a perfect equivalency. You just lack the logical faculties to comprehend that.

If any Christian really feels that gays represent the sort of existential threat that the KKK or Nazis represented, they have some serious issues.

When was the last time gays systematically killed Christians?

And here's my proof. You're evaluating the whole thing based on your personal emotions. You personally feel that the KKK are evil, therefore general rules do not apply to them. You feel that Nazis are evil, therefore rights are not to be enjoyed by them. It's all about you. And that's why you are a pathetic piece of shit.

 

[danielpalos]

There is no Religious freedom on a for-profit basis with our Commerce Clause and public accommodation laws.

I would like to take this time and opportunity to thank those of the opposing view for ceding this point and this argument in any public, political, and legal venue.

 

[Skylar]

The bigoted business owner is not having his rights infringed upon. He is open to the public. When he opened his door to the public, he agreed to serve anyone who came through that door.

So a black business owner should be required to accommodate a KKK rally that wants a cake that says "White Power" on it, right? And a Jewish business owner should be required to accommodate a neo Nazi group that wants a cake that says "Heil Hitler."

You make it seem like the owners have to do the work themselves instead of just asking for volunteers who may get a good tip.

Hmmm. Accept the assignment then subcontract it out. That might be the best solution of all.

I've got a much simpler solution: bid high. Whenever I don't want to do a project or work with a particular client, that's what I do.

 

[Katzndogz]

The bigoted business owner is not having his rights infringed upon. He is open to the public. When he opened his door to the public, he agreed to serve anyone who came through that door.

So a black business owner should be required to accommodate a KKK rally that wants a cake that says "White Power" on it, right? And a Jewish business owner should be required to accommodate a neo Nazi group that wants a cake that says "Heil Hitler."

You make it seem like the owners have to do the work themselves instead of just asking for volunteers who may get a good tip.

Hmmm. Accept the assignment then subcontract it out. That might be the best solution of all.

I've got a much simpler solution: bid high. Whenever I don't want to do a project or work with a particular client, that's what I do.

Gays might go to a dozen bakeries before they find a Christian. Forcing that Christian to violate his or her principles is priceless. They would pay it.

 

[Skylar]

The bigoted business owner is not having his rights infringed upon. He is open to the public. When he opened his door to the public, he agreed to serve anyone who came through that door.

So a black business owner should be required to accommodate a KKK rally that wants a cake that says "White Power" on it, right? And a Jewish business owner should be required to accommodate a neo Nazi group that wants a cake that says "Heil Hitler."

You make it seem like the owners have to do the work themselves instead of just asking for volunteers who may get a good tip.

Hmmm. Accept the assignment then subcontract it out. That might be the best solution of all.

I've got a much simpler solution: bid high. Whenever I don't want to do a project or work with a particular client, that's what I do.

Gays might go to a dozen bakeries before they find a Christian. Forcing that Christian to violate his or her principles is priceless. They would pay it.

Christians are that rare?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The bigoted business owner is not having his rights infringed upon. He is open to the public. When he opened his door to the public, he agreed to serve anyone who came through that door.

So a black business owner should be required to accommodate a KKK rally that wants a cake that says "White Power" on it, right? And a Jewish business owner should be required to accommodate a neo Nazi group that wants a cake that says "Heil Hitler."

You make it seem like the owners have to do the work themselves instead of just asking for volunteers who may get a good tip.

Hmmm. Accept the assignment then subcontract it out. That might be the best solution of all.

I've got a much simpler solution: bid high. Whenever I don't want to do a project or work with a particular client, that's what I do.

Gays might go to a dozen bakeries before they find a Christian. Forcing that Christian to violate his or her principles is priceless. They would pay it.

Christians aren't being 'forced' to 'violate' anything.

 

[JoeB131]

That's an absurd comparison, and I'm amazed you are making it.

No, it's a perfect equivalency. You just lack the logical faculties to comprehend that.

If any Christian really feels that gays represent the sort of existential threat that the KKK or Nazis represented, they have some serious issues.

When was the last time gays systematically killed Christians?

And here's my proof. You're evaluating the whole thing based on your personal emotions. You personally feel that the KKK are evil, therefore general rules do not apply to them. You feel that Nazis are evil, therefore rights are not to be enjoyed by them. It's all about you. And that's why you are a pathetic piece of shit.

No, it's not a matter of emotion. I don't 'Feel" the Nazis were evil. The Evil of the Nazis is a HISTORICALLY ESTABLISHED FACT. They killed 6 million Jews (and a lot of other people). The Klan was evil. They lynched thousands of blacks.

Gays didn't do anything equally evil to Christians. Gays just make their imaginary sky man cry. that's not a compelling reason to deny them services.

If you don't want to serve gays, get out of that business. It's pretty simple. No one is making you be in the business of baking cakes. You chose to be in that business.

 

[JoeB131]

Gays might go to a dozen bakeries before they find a Christian. Forcing that Christian to violate his or her principles is priceless. They would pay it.

Then they shouldn't complain when they pay high enough fines to put their asses out of business, because their imaginary sky fairy will welcome them with open arms for hating the gays just like he does.

 

[SwimExpert]

That's an absurd comparison, and I'm amazed you are making it.

No, it's a perfect equivalency. You just lack the logical faculties to comprehend that.

If any Christian really feels that gays represent the sort of existential threat that the KKK or Nazis represented, they have some serious issues.

When was the last time gays systematically killed Christians?

And here's my proof. You're evaluating the whole thing based on your personal emotions. You personally feel that the KKK are evil, therefore general rules do not apply to them. You feel that Nazis are evil, therefore rights are not to be enjoyed by them. It's all about you. And that's why you are a pathetic piece of shit.

No, it's not a matter of emotion. I don't 'Feel" the Nazis were evil. The Evil of the Nazis is a HISTORICALLY ESTABLISHED FACT. They killed 6 million Jews (and a lot of other people). The Klan was evil. They lynched thousands of blacks.

Gays didn't do anything equally evil to Christians. Gays just make their imaginary sky man cry. that's not a compelling reason to deny them services.

If you don't want to serve gays, get out of that business. It's pretty simple. No one is making you be in the business of baking cakes. You chose to be in that business.

This is great. you really doubled down and proved my point even more. It's all about emotions and your personal feeling about who/what is good and evil. Absolutely no consideration for the rights of individuals. No conceptualization for the efficacy of your flowery ideals. All you have is your personal feelings about people being good and people being evil. And that is what this all comes down to for you.

You're a joke. You're a pathetic joke and a delusional ego-centric twat. The number one evil here is you.