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Im a Wilson fan but I find him more comparable to this generations tom brady than I do with Marino.Marion had to carry the load on his shoulders and was a choker in regular season games,brady is neither of those two and neither is Wilson.Seattle fans have become the new New England fans. They actually have convinced themselves that Russell fucking Wilson is better than Dan Marino!
Speaking of chokers.
Most 4th quarter comebacks in NFL history is Peyton Manning, second is Dan Marino. The most game winning drives in the NFL is Peyton Manning and Dan Marino with 51 each.
So you are going to penalize Wilson for NOT being behind in the fourth qtr as often as Marino or Manning?
Also you bring up a silly stat that primarily can only be held by someone like Marino that was an NFL QB for 17 years.
Laughable !
I wasn't penalizing anyone, your butt buddy 911 tinfoil nut made a claim that Marino was a choker, I put the real stats out there that showed a different view. Sorry not every post is about Wilson.
Huggy your brain has quit functioning again. I wasn't placing him or anyone else on a pedestal, I was responding to an idiot and his claim of Marino as choking.Im a Wilson fan but I find him more comparable to this generations tom brady than I do with Marino.Marion had to carry the load on his shoulders and was a choker in regular season games,brady is neither of those two and neither is Wilson.Seattle fans have become the new New England fans. They actually have convinced themselves that Russell fucking Wilson is better than Dan Marino!
Speaking of chokers.
Most 4th quarter comebacks in NFL history is Peyton Manning, second is Dan Marino. The most game winning drives in the NFL is Peyton Manning and Dan Marino with 51 each.
So you are going to penalize Wilson for NOT being behind in the fourth qtr as often as Marino or Manning?
Also you bring up a silly stat that primarily can only be held by someone like Marino that was an NFL QB for 17 years.
Laughable !
I wasn't penalizing anyone, your butt buddy 911 tinfoil nut made a claim that Marino was a choker, I put the real stats out there that showed a different view. Sorry not every post is about Wilson.
In a thread titled:
"Russell Wilson vs. Peyton Manning - Can Wilson Best Manning's Legacy?"?
Well, one would probably not be wrong to argue that it(the OP) ISN"T about Marino.
Why does 9/11 have to be my "butt buddy"?
Please post a link to WHEN I have responded to one of his posts.
I didn't know that Marino was behind in the 4th qtr in league history leading fashion. Personally I wouldn't try to argue that as a reason to place him on a pedestal.
Im a Wilson fan but I find him more comparable to this generations tom brady than I do with Marino.Marion had to carry the load on his shoulders and was a choker in regular season games,brady is neither of those two and neither is Wilson.Seattle fans have become the new New England fans. They actually have convinced themselves that Russell fucking Wilson is better than Dan Marino!
Speaking of chokers.
Most 4th quarter comebacks in NFL history is Peyton Manning, second is Dan Marino. The most game winning drives in the NFL is Peyton Manning and Dan Marino with 51 each.
Don't bother him with facts. He'll have none of it.
Yeah I kinda discovered that about him way back this fall when I took him to school on the Rams coming back just to watch him change the subject everytime I cornered him on that.
He is really losing it now.Dont know where he came up with that absurd comment I was bringing politics into this discussion.sure I did when I mentioned bill Clinton but that was only AFTER he said that.Before then, I was talking strictly about sports.
this is what you end up doing when you try and have any kind of discussion with him.
that seems to be a common trait among seahawks fans.arrogant and wont look at facts.Blue Phantom being the exception of course..
I see you live in California.I never noticed that before.Oh man I am so jealous of you.That was why I became a Rams fan in the first place was because they were based in California which is my favorite state so even I who have lived here in the Midwest my whole life,was depressed when they moved away even though they were much closer to me.anything other than the name LOS ANGELES in front of the name Rams,i don't want no part of.I turned to the chargers after they left.
you LIVING in California and all,i figure you might be interested in this.if you are,mark your calendars for these dates.feb15th which is a month from tomorrow and march 1st.those are the key dates to look for. on the 15th of that month is when the announcement is expected from the rams that they are moving back to LA this year.
then on march 1st,the owners will vote on it.that's the real key date because goddel has no say in this whatsoever contrary to what some fools around here actually believe such as him.
what matters is if the owners approve the move and I guarantee you,they will vote in favor of knoenke and he will easily get the 24 of the 31 votes needed by them to relocate,they all want it to happen except for that idiot spanos of the chargers.
you got to remember,27 of the 30 owners opposed the move from LA to saint Louis in 95,they only changed their votes in majority favoring AFTER the bitch threatened to sue,fools like him around here don't get it though that goodel is powerless to stop the move.that he doesn't want an anti trust lawsuit against him.
talking to someone like him about that and others around here though,you might as well be talking to a brick wall .USMB seems to attract the most ignorant sports fans.
this sports message board I post at ,they are FAR more knowledgeable,open minded and objective about the rams coming back to LA than most here at USMB are.
so what part of California you live in? you being right there in the state its all happening in,you probably are on top of it almost as much as I am and know as well as I do its a done deal they are coming back THIS year am I right?
LOL - I wouldn't necessarily classify BP as 'arrogant.' I think he genuinely believes or wants to believe what he's saying. It's just a really bad case of homerism as I said.
I was a Rams fan and Raiders hater in 94ish when they left...Yes, we still had the Chargers, but that was like yea, the Chargers.
Most people stopped caring about whether LA has a team tbh. Once we hit the five year mark, we were just like well if the NFL doesn't want a team in the second biggest market then that's their problem. There's not a shortage of entertainment options otherwise.
Dude Phantom has taken you to school and won every chessgame against you here educating you on how Wilson remains very calm in the pocket.I have never said Phontom was a troll and wasn't calling him one.I was referring to antiquity.he is one of the two seahawks fans around here who can never be bothered with facts.that if they don't go along with his warped opinion,he wont look at them.True, he is just a troll, look at his la lambs thread, nothing but pages and pages of blah blah blah!
I don't know about being a troll.... I think he just has a severe case of homerism. Seriously, a year plus ago he'd have been arguing that Kafernick was better than Marino or Manning had he been a Niners fan. That's how bad he's got wood for Wilson. Seriously, Phantom see a doctor if an erection lasts for more than four hours!
Im a Wilson fan but I find him more comparable to this generations tom brady than I do with Marino.Marion had to carry the load on his shoulders and was a choker in regular season games,brady is neither of those two and neither is Wilson.Seattle fans have become the new New England fans. They actually have convinced themselves that Russell fucking Wilson is better than Dan Marino!
Speaking of chokers.
Most 4th quarter comebacks in NFL history is Peyton Manning, second is Dan Marino. The most game winning drives in the NFL is Peyton Manning and Dan Marino with 51 each.
So you are going to penalize Wilson for NOT being behind in the fourth qtr as often as Marino or Manning?
Also you bring up a silly stat that primarily can only be held by someone like Marino that was an NFL QB for 17 years.
Laughable !
I have no argument against Marino. Great QB. Better than Manning.
Elway was vastly better than Manning ( and Marino for that matter ). Think fast. Can you name a WR on the Broncos during the '80s? They had the Three Amigos. If there was ever a pedestrian group of WRs and RBs, it was the 80s supporting cast for Elway. Yet, he rarely lost in the playoffs, engineered some historical rallies and got his ass kicked in 3 Super Bowls.
Brady, better than Manning. Favre, better than Manning. I could go on for pages. Manning has great career regular season numbers. He's the Alex Rodriguez of football.
politics?trolls pooper and disinfo agent rightwinger hate the truth bring told and seeing Gatsby being taken to school here by Blue Phantom.
Not suprising THEY are the ones doing the agreeing ignoring the facts how Phantom won the chess game every time taking him to school.
Why do you always have to be a moron and bring politic into play. I think you are the least respected poster on this thread as your stupid name implies.
Look who's the moron.the jerk who refuses to look at an opposing view different than his own whether its the truth about 9/11 or the rams coming back to LA, doesn't matter.lol
oh and hate to break the news to you as well that agent troll rightwinger is the most disrespected poster at USMB.
I have seen literally over a hundred people call him out in the years I been here on his outright lies he makes up all the time avoiding when he is proven wrong.
kinda like you and many others have who have recently made up outright lies that they never said the rams wouldn't be coming back.then when I cornered them and showed their previous posts when they DID say that,they of course changed the subject just like you always do when your cornered.
this site seems to draw in the biggest trolls. thank god other message boards,sports fans aren't anywhere near the stupidity as the likes of people like you,pooper,and rightwinger since unlike you three,they would look at the facts back then I posted that the rams indeed are coming home THIS year which you probably still are going to say isn't happening just like you kept saying no team in the NFL would be coming back to LA anytime soon in the future.
you need to look in the mirror when calling someone a moron,someone who ignores expert witness testimony and facts that proved the rams were coming home.
waits to watch you try and weasel out of it and CLAIM you never said it just like so many others have recently as I knew they would.
I KNEW several months ago all the idiots that kept ignoring my facts the rasm are coming back would then try and weasel their way out of it and claim they never said they were nto coming back cause they are too arrogant just as you are to admit when they have been proven wrong by me so you will do the same thing of course as they did and deny you never said that which is bullshit.
I called those posters out who claimed they never said that reposting their bs and of course they changed the subject or ran off as you did when I proved you wrong recently.
that means just so you know,I did not read your latest babble past the first five words anyways.nor will i read any others of yours here on this thread either.
Im a Wilson fan but I find him more comparable to this generations tom brady than I do with Marino.Marion had to carry the load on his shoulders and was a choker in regular season games,brady is neither of those two and neither is Wilson.Seattle fans have become the new New England fans. They actually have convinced themselves that Russell fucking Wilson is better than Dan Marino!
Speaking of chokers.
Most 4th quarter comebacks in NFL history is Peyton Manning, second is Dan Marino. The most game winning drives in the NFL is Peyton Manning and Dan Marino with 51 each.
Don't bother him with facts. He'll have none of it.
Yeah I kinda discovered that about him way back this fall when I took him to school on the Rams coming back just to watch him change the subject everytime I cornered him on that.
He is really losing it now.Dont know where he came up with that absurd comment I was bringing politics into this discussion.sure I did when I mentioned bill Clinton but that was only AFTER he said that.Before then, I was talking strictly about sports.
this is what you end up doing when you try and have any kind of discussion with him.
that seems to be a common trait among seahawks fans.arrogant and wont look at facts.Blue Phantom being the exception of course..
I see you live in California.I never noticed that before.
you LIVING in California and all,i figure you might be interested in this.if you are,mark your calendars for these dates.feb15th which is a month from tomorrow and march 1st.those are the key dates to look for. on the 15th of that month is when the announcement is expected from the rams that they are moving back to LA this year.
then on march 1st,the owners will vote on it.that's the real key date because goddel has no say in this whatsoever contrary to what some fools around here actually believe such as him.
what matters is if the owners approve the move and I guarantee you,they will vote in favor of knoenke and he will easily get the 24 of the 31 votes needed by them to relocate,they all want it to happen except for that idiot spanos of the chargers.
you got to remember,27 of the 30 owners opposed the move from LA to saint Louis in 95,they only changed their votes in majority favoring AFTER the bitch threatened to sue,fools like him around here don't get it though that goodel is powerless to stop the move.that he doesn't want an anti trust lawsuit against him.
talking to someone like him about that and others around here though,you might as well be talking to a brick wall .USMB seems to attract the most ignorant sports fans.
this sports message board I post at ,they are FAR more knowledgeable,open minded and objective about the rams coming back to LA than most here at USMB are.
so what part of California you live in? you being right there in the state its all happening in,you probably are on top of it almost as much as I am and know as well as I do its a done deal they are coming back THIS year am I right?
LOL - I wouldn't necessarily classify BP as 'arrogant.' I think he genuinely believes or wants to believe what he's saying. It's just a really bad case of homerism as I said.
I was a Rams fan and Raiders hater in 94ish when they left...Yes, we still had the Chargers, but that was like yea, the Chargers.
Most people stopped caring about whether LA has a team tbh. Once we hit the five year mark, we were just like well if the NFL doesn't want a team in the second biggest market then that's their problem. There's not a shortage of entertainment options otherwise.
Man i plan on getting drunk that night and calling in sick for work.
they cant merely admit they were acting like idiots and simply apologize for their stupidity they displayed,they have to change the subject and say things like-hey i dont care if they come back,if they do thats fine. again they can lie,but i can repost the posts which prove they lied,they cant get around that little thing that this place keeps records of past posts.
Im a Wilson fan but I find him more comparable to this generations tom brady than I do with Marino.Marion had to carry the load on his shoulders and was a choker in regular season games,brady is neither of those two and neither is Wilson.
Speaking of chokers.
Most 4th quarter comebacks in NFL history is Peyton Manning, second is Dan Marino. The most game winning drives in the NFL is Peyton Manning and Dan Marino with 51 each.
Don't bother him with facts. He'll have none of it.
Yeah I kinda discovered that about him way back this fall when I took him to school on the Rams coming back just to watch him change the subject everytime I cornered him on that.
He is really losing it now.Dont know where he came up with that absurd comment I was bringing politics into this discussion.sure I did when I mentioned bill Clinton but that was only AFTER he said that.Before then, I was talking strictly about sports.
this is what you end up doing when you try and have any kind of discussion with him.
that seems to be a common trait among seahawks fans.arrogant and wont look at facts.Blue Phantom being the exception of course..
I see you live in California.I never noticed that before.
you LIVING in California and all,i figure you might be interested in this.if you are,mark your calendars for these dates.feb15th which is a month from tomorrow and march 1st.those are the key dates to look for. on the 15th of that month is when the announcement is expected from the rams that they are moving back to LA this year.
then on march 1st,the owners will vote on it.that's the real key date because goddel has no say in this whatsoever contrary to what some fools around here actually believe such as him.
what matters is if the owners approve the move and I guarantee you,they will vote in favor of knoenke and he will easily get the 24 of the 31 votes needed by them to relocate,they all want it to happen except for that idiot spanos of the chargers.
you got to remember,27 of the 30 owners opposed the move from LA to saint Louis in 95,they only changed their votes in majority favoring AFTER the bitch threatened to sue,fools like him around here don't get it though that goodel is powerless to stop the move.that he doesn't want an anti trust lawsuit against him.
talking to someone like him about that and others around here though,you might as well be talking to a brick wall .USMB seems to attract the most ignorant sports fans.
this sports message board I post at ,they are FAR more knowledgeable,open minded and objective about the rams coming back to LA than most here at USMB are.
so what part of California you live in? you being right there in the state its all happening in,you probably are on top of it almost as much as I am and know as well as I do its a done deal they are coming back THIS year am I right?
LOL - I wouldn't necessarily classify BP as 'arrogant.' I think he genuinely believes or wants to believe what he's saying. It's just a really bad case of homerism as I said.
I was a Rams fan and Raiders hater in 94ish when they left...Yes, we still had the Chargers, but that was like yea, the Chargers.
Most people stopped caring about whether LA has a team tbh. Once we hit the five year mark, we were just like well if the NFL doesn't want a team in the second biggest market then that's their problem. There's not a shortage of entertainment options otherwise.
something else i forgot to mention was the rams moving out of LA was the darkest most depressing moment in my life.outside of losing family members and close friends of mine over the years that is of course. Other than that,it really WAS the most darkest most depressing moment in my lifetime.
I never thought it would possibly happen back then.that was why i knew they were coming back this year because saint louis fans were demonstrating the same kind of denial that I went through back then when they left LA so i know the signs all too well.
the same exact same things that were happening a year ago were happening there,it was obvious,but the saint louis apologists here did not want to listen to my facts though only seeing what they wanted to see for some reason.
them leaving was the same as having a wife you have been devoted to your life who you were faithful and loyal to deserting you for another man.thats the best way to explain it.you just feel betrayed and hurt never thinking they would do something like that to you. Its like a bitter divorce.I was so bitter i had to root for the other team to win all the time each week.
I will always be a fan of tom brady cause he made me so happy when he beat the rams in the superbowl the next time they made it back.
I never thought they would leave because you are talking about a team that had played there for over 50 years. thats like the yankees leaving new york for saint louis you just could not possibly imiagne that happpening.
Stan Kroneke will now become my NEW biggest hero in life in a exactly one month from now when it is expected that he makes the annoucement he is moving them back this year.
I never lost hope that they would return someday because again,were talking about a team that had been there for over 50 years with a long history there.
But more importantly,i never lost hope and never gave up that someday never knowing when of course,that they would return someday and that was because of the raiders going back to oakland.that was the first time a team had ever gone BACK to where they came from and since the rams had so much more history in LA the 2nd biggest market int he country no less,I never lost hope and faith and it finally paid off.
i always thought to myself-"I think they will come back someday,they got a long history there.Remember you never thought the raiders would go back to oakland either and you were wrong o that so maybe someday they will come back."
thats what I always told myself over the years and that time has no come.
LA RAMS 2015 baby
i dont care if they go 0 and 16 and get blown out in every game.screw the winning.i just want them back,the winning is a just a bonus for me.I hope to be there for opening day sept 2015 but that will be a tough ticket to get as well the first preseason game so i will probably just go to the dodgers home opener this year so I can celebrate with fans there this year.
how bout you,you plan on being a season ticket holder there by chance?
Im a Wilson fan but I find him more comparable to this generations tom brady than I do with Marino.Marion had to carry the load on his shoulders and was a choker in regular season games,brady is neither of those two and neither is Wilson.
Speaking of chokers.
Most 4th quarter comebacks in NFL history is Peyton Manning, second is Dan Marino. The most game winning drives in the NFL is Peyton Manning and Dan Marino with 51 each.
Don't bother him with facts. He'll have none of it.
Yeah I kinda discovered that about him way back this fall when I took him to school on the Rams coming back just to watch him change the subject everytime I cornered him on that.
He is really losing it now.Dont know where he came up with that absurd comment I was bringing politics into this discussion.sure I did when I mentioned bill Clinton but that was only AFTER he said that.Before then, I was talking strictly about sports.
this is what you end up doing when you try and have any kind of discussion with him.
that seems to be a common trait among seahawks fans.arrogant and wont look at facts.Blue Phantom being the exception of course..
I see you live in California.I never noticed that before.
you LIVING in California and all,i figure you might be interested in this.if you are,mark your calendars for these dates.feb15th which is a month from tomorrow and march 1st.those are the key dates to look for. on the 15th of that month is when the announcement is expected from the rams that they are moving back to LA this year.
then on march 1st,the owners will vote on it.that's the real key date because goddel has no say in this whatsoever contrary to what some fools around here actually believe such as him.
what matters is if the owners approve the move and I guarantee you,they will vote in favor of knoenke and he will easily get the 24 of the 31 votes needed by them to relocate,they all want it to happen except for that idiot spanos of the chargers.
you got to remember,27 of the 30 owners opposed the move from LA to saint Louis in 95,they only changed their votes in majority favoring AFTER the bitch threatened to sue,fools like him around here don't get it though that goodel is powerless to stop the move.that he doesn't want an anti trust lawsuit against him.
talking to someone like him about that and others around here though,you might as well be talking to a brick wall .USMB seems to attract the most ignorant sports fans.
this sports message board I post at ,they are FAR more knowledgeable,open minded and objective about the rams coming back to LA than most here at USMB are.
so what part of California you live in? you being right there in the state its all happening in,you probably are on top of it almost as much as I am and know as well as I do its a done deal they are coming back THIS year am I right?
LOL - I wouldn't necessarily classify BP as 'arrogant.' I think he genuinely believes or wants to believe what he's saying. It's just a really bad case of homerism as I said.
I was a Rams fan and Raiders hater in 94ish when they left...Yes, we still had the Chargers, but that was like yea, the Chargers.
Most people stopped caring about whether LA has a team tbh. Once we hit the five year mark, we were just like well if the NFL doesn't want a team in the second biggest market then that's their problem. There's not a shortage of entertainment options otherwise.
For the record,I wasn't talking about BP being arrogant.I was talking about two other seahawks fans here that are whose names I wont mention.lol
BP in fact is the first seahawk fan I have ever met who I have found is NOT arrogant.so its good to know they are not ALL like that.I've only talked to three of them and one out of three isn't bad ,my conversations with BP reassures me that they are not all arrogant and close minded which is good to know.
For a long time I was thinking practically all seahawks fans out there were that way because I have heard from a few others at a sports message board I post at that Niner and Raider fans are arrogant but they got nothing on seahawk fans they said and from my experience with a couple of them here,I have to agree with them on that.
I only disliked the raiders when they first came into the league but then when they moved to LA,I hated them with a fury as much as I do the cowboys and that's saying a lot.lol.
with them back in Oakland now its hard for me to hate them now though since they are back where they belong.and yeah I know what you mean,when the Rams left LA,I switched to the chargers and became a charger fan but its not the same though.as much as I love the chargers,I don't live and die with them like I did with the Rams.I don't get excited during football season leading up that whole week getting anxious for sunday to come around with the chargers like I always did with the Rams.
It wasn't till carrol and then Wilson two years later came along to join the Hawks,that my interest in NFL football got renewed.I always thought carrol got mistreated in boston with that jerk owner Kraft so I was happy for carrol when he was lucky enough to have Wilson fall to the number three spot so he could get him and make the seahawks into a winner.
as much as i hate the pats and would like to see them lose this sunday.I guess I wont mind it either if they make it to the superbowl.as much as I enjoyed seeing them beat that ass hole manning,it would be even sweeter seeing carrol have the last laugh against Kraft and winning the superbowl.
His coaching decisions and games sometimes make me say WTF? and piss me off but I always knew he was a great coach and that would be be in the superbowl again if he ever got a good quarterback to work with.
wilson was the first time he finally got one.Bledoe and Esiason were both on their last legs when he coached the jets and the pats so he didn't have anything to work with back then those two times.
I actually have a better opinion of jerry jones as well now.He is the ringleader in the return of the rams coming back to LA so its kinda hard for me to hate him now.Now its just a slight dislike.lol
i dont care if they go 0 and 16 and get blown out in every game.screw the winning.i just want them back,the winning is a just a bonus for me.I hope to be there for opening day sept 2015 but that will be a tough ticket to get as well the first preseason game so i will probably just go to the dodgers home opener this year so I can celebrate with fans there this year.
how bout you,you plan on being a season ticket holder there by chance?
i dont care if they go 0 and 16 and get blown out in every game.screw the winning.i just want them back,the winning is a just a bonus for me.I hope to be there for opening day sept 2015 but that will be a tough ticket to get as well the first preseason game so i will probably just go to the dodgers home opener this year so I can celebrate with fans there this year.
how bout you,you plan on being a season ticket holder there by chance?
Yea, Georgia what's her face pulled a 'Major League' and it was totally obvious. She made the team suck to get the attendance low to get out of the lease and then she bailed because she was 'homesick.' A part of me was happy when she died.
A Dodger season ticket holder? Nah, I hate the Dodgers.
And I don't know if I'd convert back to being a Rams fan if they moved back; and they won't btw. Their owner is just leveraging a move for a new stadium.
i dont care if they go 0 and 16 and get blown out in every game.screw the winning.i just want them back,the winning is a just a bonus for me.I hope to be there for opening day sept 2015 but that will be a tough ticket to get as well the first preseason game so i will probably just go to the dodgers home opener this year so I can celebrate with fans there this year.
how bout you,you plan on being a season ticket holder there by chance?
Yea, Georgia what's her face pulled a 'Major League' and it was totally obvious. She made the team suck to get the attendance low to get out of the lease and then she bailed because she was 'homesick.' A part of me was happy when she died.
A Dodger season ticket holder? Nah, I hate the Dodgers.
And I don't know if I'd convert back to being a Rams fan if they moved back; and they won't btw. Their owner is just leveraging a move for a new stadium.
The StupidGatsby would go to an orphanage and find the cryingest baby and adopt it just so when he travels by air he has left his mark.
Nice work. Now let's see if you can undo it.
