Russia will want revenge after losing the war, this may happen in 10 years – Ukraine's Defence Intellige

[skye]

skye and Kruska, how much is the Russian government paying you to support Russia in her unjust war of aggression against Ukraine?

what a stupid thing to say!

but hey.....live in ignorance.

 

[Kruska]

.......the rest of the world is thinking about what to do to prevent another Russian invasion of Ukraine ....

What USA/NATO/EU should have done in the first place - NOT to expand Eastward - but to keep those countries NEUTRAL
No one incl. Russia would have objected towards the former Warsaw-Pact countries to e.g. form an own military/economic alliance.

To militarily or economically help a country or an attacked country - see Ukraine - obviously does NOT require NATO or EU membership. But to isolate and contain - therefore to enforce redundancy onto another nation e.g. Russia or China - does require an aggressive Eastward Expansion and NATO/EU membership.

If one does not respect hegemonic interests of a superpower - especially one with nukes - then one very likely provokes or even asks for ARMAGEDDON.
See the Malvina's aka Falkland war - Argentina did not respect the hegemonic interests of the UK - however was not able to attack the British troop-transport-fleet before it's arrival, since the UK had threatened with a nuke strike onto Argentina - if attacked. (and I am dead sure that the UK under Thatcher, would have done it - so was the Argentine military Junta).

So now if Russia forwards - if Ukraine with DIRECT support from NATO, continues it's attack onto Russian territory (Crimea, Donbas&Luhansk are considered by Russia to be Russian territory) as well as internationally recognized Russian territory itself - then we will use nuke weapons - what's the difference?

The obvious problem/issue with people like you is, that only US/NATO is considered to be legible to conduct a hegemonic policy across the globe.

 

[toomuchtime_]

What USA/NATO/EU should have done in the first place - NOT to expand Eastward - but to keep those countries NEUTRAL
No one incl. Russia would have objected towards the former Warsaw-Pact countries to e.g. form an own military/economic alliance.

To militarily or economically help a country or an attacked country - see Ukraine - obviously does NOT require NATO or EU membership. But to isolate and contain - therefore to enforce redundancy onto another nation e.g. Russia or China - does require an aggressive Eastward Expansion and NATO/EU membership.

If one does not respect hegemonic interests of a superpower - especially one with nukes - then one very likely provokes or even asks for ARMAGEDDON.

The obvious problem/issue with people like you is, that only US/NATO is considered to be legible to conduct a hegemonic policy across the globe.

Just more of your typical bullshit. The eastern European countries clamored to join NATO because after 45 years of being held captive by the USSR they understood that the only way to avoid being taken over again by Russia was to join NATO.

 

[Kruska]

skye and Kruska, how much is the Russian government paying you to support Russia in her unjust war of aggression against Ukraine?

How much is NATO paying you, to support their hegemonic interests towards Russia?

 

[toomuchtime_]

How much is NATO paying you, to support their hegemonic interests towards Russia?

Thanks for the compliment. It would never occur to me that anyone would pay you to put the pathetic drivel you post.

 

[Kruska]

Just more of your typical bullshit. The eastern European countries clamored to join NATO because after 45 years of being held captive by the USSR they understood that the only way to avoid being taken over again by Russia was to join NATO.

No - YOUR typical bullshit - ignoring and denying the FACT, that Russia had NOT attacked a single country since 1990 - 2022, especially not those being former Republics of the USSR and being independent sovereign countries since 1991. Whilst US/NATO was continuously making wars across the Globe in the same period.

Chechnya was NEVER an independent country but is a republic (province) within the Russian Federation.

Georgia had attacked a separatist controlled region - aligned with Russia, (Therefore Georgia not wiling to respect those peoples wish to form an own country - or to join the Russian federation) - Russia supported the separatists and attacked/occupied Georgia - upon Georgia acquitting towards the sovereignty of two separatist regions - Russia PULLED OUT it's troops - if they had been NATO - they would have stayed there and arranged for the "new" Georgia government to beg and plead for joining the Russian Federation or it's military/economic alliance.

You are what you are; a totally one sided moron, solely promoting and defending US/NATO hegemonic interests.

 

[Kruska]

Just more of your typical bullshit. The eastern European countries clamored to join NATO because after 45 years of being held captive by the USSR they understood that the only way to avoid being taken over again by Russia was to join NATO.

And you got absolutely no proof at all - in the past 32 years, towards your US/NATO/MSM propagated bullshit, about Russia attacking or wanting to attack any country. Until NATO tried to press into Ukraine.

 

[Kruska]

Thanks for the compliment. It would never occur to me that anyone would pay you to put the pathetic drivel you post.

What compliment towards YOU? you moron.

 

[toomuchtime_]

No - YOUR typical bullshit - ignoring and denying the FACT, that Russia had NOT attacked a single country since 1990 - 2022, especially not those being former Republics of the USSR and being independent sovereign countries since 1991. Whilst US/NATO was continuously making wars across the Globe in the same period.

Chechnya was NEVER an independent country but is a republic (province) within the Russian Federation.

Georgia had attacked a separatist controlled region - aligned with Russia, (Therefore Georgia not wiling to respect those peoples wish to form an own country - or to join the Russian federation) - Russia supported the separatists and attacked/occupied Georgia - upon Georgia acquitting towards the sovereignty of two separatist regions - Russia PULLED OUT it's troops - if they had been NATO - they would have stayed there and arranged for the "new" Georgia government to beg and plead for joining the Russian Federation or it's military/economic alliance.

You are what you are; a paid shill or a totally one sided moron, solely promoting and defending US/NATO hegemonic interests.

When Gorbachev dismantled the USSR, the West was foolish enough to believe that this was the new Russia and it would be nothing like the USSR, but the eastern Europeans knew better and flocked to NATO to protect them from the "new" Russia.

That's the whole story, and the rest is just you making a fool of yourself over and over again with the same sad old lies.

 

[Kruska]

Stop trying to change the subject. The help the US is giving to Ukraine to help it fight off Russian aggression is no different from the help the US gave to the UK to help it fight Nazi aggression.

Where has Russia unlike Germany attacked and occupied a dozen countries? in order for the USA to help whoever?
Again a total moronic post.

 

[toomuchtime_]

And you got absolutely no proof at all - in the past 32 years, towards your US/NATO/MSM propagated bullshit, about Russia attacking or wanting to attack any country. Until NATO tried to press into Ukraine.

Blah, blah, blah. You are just making a fool of yourself again by posting such nonsense. After 45 years of captivity the eastern European countries just didn't trust Russia to allow them to remain sovereign and independent and that's why they wanted to join NATO.

 

[Kruska]

When Gorbachev dismantled the USSR, the West was foolish enough to believe that this was the new Russia and it would be nothing like the USSR, but the eastern Europeans knew better and flocked to NATO to protect them from the "new" Russia.

That's the whole story, and the rest is just you making a fool of yourself over and over again with the same sad old lies.

And today's Russia is NOT the former USSR
And you got absolutely no proof at all - in the past 32 years, towards your US/NATO/MSM propagated bullshit, about Russia attacking or wanting to attack any country. Until NATO tried to press into Ukraine.

You are persistently ignoring this FACT - and keep on blabbering your Western MSM bull. aka the signature of a MORON.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Where has Russia unlike Germany attacked and occupied a dozen countries? in order for the USA to help whoever?
Again a total moronic post.

1945 when Russia captured and held in captivity eastern Europe.

 

[Kruska]

1945 when Russia captured and held in captivity eastern Europe.

You moron - brought up the comparison between the USA supporting Britain against Germany - in regards to USA now supporting Ukraine.

Upon realizing your utter failure and total misconception toward history - you now try to point out what the USSR did in 1945.
Again showing your utter failure and misconception towards history - ignoring that the Russian Federation has nothing to do with the former USSR. And that FOREMOST the USA acquitted towards the USSR to gain control of these countries - incl. N-Korea - you moron.

According to your moronic mindset - today's Germany must have the same agenda as Nazi Germany. And Italy and Spain must be fascist ruled countries.

 

[toomuchtime_]

You moron - brought up the comparison between the USA supporting Britain against Germany - in regards to USA now supporting Ukraine.

Upon realizing your utter failure and total misconception toward history - you now try to point out what the USSR did in 1945.
Again showing your utter failure and misconception towards history - ignoring that the Russian Federation has nothing to do with the former USSR.

According to your moronic mindset - today's Germany must have the same agenda as Nazi Germany. And Italy must be a fascist rued country.

All your ranting and raving doesn't change the fact that what the US is doing helping Ukraine fight against Russian aggression is no different from what the US did for the UK in helping it defend against Nazi aggression.

 

[Kruska]

All your ranting and raving doesn't change the fact that what the US is doing helping Ukraine fight against Russian aggression is no different from what the US did for the UK in helping it defend against Nazi aggression.

Where has Russia unlike Nazi-Germany attacked and occupied a dozen countries? in order for the USA to help whoever?
Again a total moronic post. And you even are stupid enough to forward the same moronic statement again.

 

[Kruska]

You moron - brought up the comparison between the USA supporting Britain against Germany - in regards to USA now supporting Ukraine.

Upon realizing your utter failure and total misconception toward history - you now try to point out what the USSR did in 1945.
Again showing your utter failure and misconception towards history - ignoring that the Russian Federation has nothing to do with the former USSR. And that FOREMOST the USA acquitted towards the USSR to gain control of these countries - incl. N-Korea - you moron.

According to your moronic mindset - today's Germany must have the same agenda as Nazi Germany. And Italy and Spain must be fascist ruled countries.

luiza - which part of my above post/statements #74, do you consider to be fake?

 

[luiza]

All your ranting and raving doesn't change the fact that what the US is doing helping Ukraine fight against Russian aggression is no different from what the US did for the UK in helping it defend against Nazi aggression.

You are having to learn the hard way that Trolling does not pay, and once again you are totally out of your depth .It seems likely that you are another of these octogenarians stuck in the past and unable to cope very well with the changes brought about by happenings in the last couple of decades in particular .Unfortunately you are a prime example of the disease I always look out for -- Cognitigve Rigidity .
Look at the absurd opening sentence of your post .You should be on bended kneee that he even bothers to talk with you and does not descend to your level of personal insults .
Separately we see you regularly scribbling utter nonsense when it comes to the Ukraine issue where you have recently been touting major Kyiv advances when the truth of the matters were that the Kyiv Nazi third army had moved temporarily into deserted and flattened villages .
That is not even funny . It is stupidity you could prevent by DYOR .

 

[José]

Originally posted by xyz
"Super patriotic American clowns" are usually Trump supporters.

You see, x... I use this fantastic expression I invented 20 years ago to refer to those kind of "I'm for my country and its allies right or wrong" patriots and they are found on both sides of the political spectrum.

But don't take my word for it... just take a look at our Board:

Rightwinger on the left and toomuchtime on the right, both strong supporters of the War in Ukraine.

People mistakenly believe I'm anti-american because I frequently use this derrogatory expression...

I love America so much that I want to preserve the country's european makeup... I want to preserve America as the founding fathers conceived the nation, as a precious jewel of Western Civilization.

The real haters of America are multiracialist scoundrels like Unkotare, Toro, rightwinger, Clayton Jones, JoeB who want to destroy one of the fundamental pillars of the american nation, its white majority.

They hate America with a passion no matter how strongly they support the country's misguided foreign policies and its allies.

 

[luiza]

]luiza[/USER] - which part of my above post/statements #74, do you consider to be fake?

Oops . A mistake which I have put right . Guess I was moving too quickly and forgot to check the result before moving on .Naughty Luiza .

Incidentally , I respect that you have given so much time to deal with that irritating fool of a man Boozey .